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KingButz 04/12/12 10:35:00 AM #101:	Tomato is a vegetable. How hard is that to understand? Definition: A plant or part of a plant used as food -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.png Ok everyone this is Bartz so just remember. <cite>KingButz posted [p:1021260] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Tomato is a vegetable. How hard is that to understand?Definition: A plant or part of a plant used as food -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.pngOk everyone this is Bartz so just remember. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 04/12/12 10:37:00 AM #102:	Is there a practical difference between "I don't believe in a deity" and "I believe there is no deity"? Are you arguing that atheism is not a set of beliefs because you and some other atheists may say the former? No, I'm saying atheism isn't a religion because religion is always about ___ existing, and not about ___ not existing. Otherwise, every single person on the planet would be part of this "atheist religion" because nobody believes in everything; Christians believe there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster. This isn't how you define religion. <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:1021261] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Is there a practical difference between "I don't believe in a deity" and "I believe there is no deity"? Are you arguing that atheism is not a set of beliefs because you and some other atheists may say the former?No, I'm saying atheism isn't a religion because religion is always about ___ existing, and not about ___ not existing.Otherwise, every single person on the planet would be part of this "atheist religion" because nobody believes in everything; Christians believe there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster. This isn't how you define religion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 04/12/12 10:38:00 AM #103:	You are so, so naive to the point where it's not even funny. Did you even read the part where I said I was an atheist? Just because you're ready and willing to be discriminated against (which makes absolutely no sense) doesn't make it okay. <cite>wg64Z posted [p:1021262] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> You are so, so naive to the point where it's not even funny. Did you even read the part where I said I was an atheist?Just because you're ready and willing to be discriminated against (which makes absolutely no sense) doesn't make it okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 04/12/12 10:39:00 AM #104:	The confusion about 'fruit' and 'vegetable' arises because of the differences in usage between scientists and cooks. Scientifically speaking, a tomato is definitely a fruit. True fruits are developed from the ovary in the base of the flower, and contain the seeds of the plant (though cultivated forms may be seedless). Blueberries, raspberries, and oranges are true fruits, and so are many kinds of nut. Some plants have a soft part which supports the seeds and is also called a 'fruit', though it is not developed from the ovary: the strawberry is an example. As far as cooking is concerned, some things which are strictly fruits, such as tomatoes or bean pods, may be called 'vegetables' because they are used in savoury rather than sweet cooking. The term 'vegetable' is more generally used of other edible parts of plants, such as cabbage leaves, celery stalks, and potato tubers, which are not strictly the fruit of the plant from which they come. Occasionally the term 'fruit' may be used to refer to a part of a plant which is not a fruit, but which is used in sweet cooking: rhubarb, for example. So, the answer to the question is that a tomato is technically the fruit of the tomato plant, but it's used as a vegetable in cooking. Not that it matters >_>. Anyways, back on topic... I generally try to take people as individuals wherever possible. If someone says things about their beliefs I'll talk about it, but if they don't I won't. Also, lumping together atheists like this is really quite silly. -- Sig space for rent. Got something you'd like to see spread around? Give me a shout out, I'll probably sig it. <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:1021263] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> The confusion about 'fruit' and 'vegetable' arises because of the differences in usage between scientists and cooks. Scientifically speaking, a tomato is definitely a fruit. True fruits are developed from the ovary in the base of the flower, and contain the seeds of the plant (though cultivated forms may be seedless). Blueberries, raspberries, and oranges are true fruits, and so are many kinds of nut. Some plants have a soft part which supports the seeds and is also called a 'fruit', though it is not developed from the ovary: the strawberry is an example.As far as cooking is concerned, some things which are strictly fruits, such as tomatoes or bean pods, may be called 'vegetables' because they are used in savoury rather than sweet cooking. The term 'vegetable' is more generally used of other edible parts of plants, such as cabbage leaves, celery stalks, and potato tubers, which are not strictly the fruit of the plant from which they come. Occasionally the term 'fruit' may be used to refer to a part of a plant which is not a fruit, but which is used in sweet cooking: rhubarb, for example.So, the answer to the question is that a tomato is technically the fruit of the tomato plant, but it's used as a vegetable in cooking.Not that it matters >_>. Anyways, back on topic...I generally try to take people as individuals wherever possible. If someone says things about their beliefs I'll talk about it, but if they don't I won't. Also, lumping together atheists like this is really quite silly. -- Sig space for rent. Got something you'd like to see spread around? Give me a shout out, I'll probably sig it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 04/12/12 10:40:00 AM #105:	From: Mr Lasastryke \| #102 Is there a practical difference between "I don't believe in a deity" and "I believe there is no deity"? Are you arguing that atheism is not a set of beliefs because you and some other atheists may say the former? No, I'm saying atheism isn't a religion because religion is always about ___ existing, and not about ___ not existing. Otherwise, every single person on the planet would be part of this "atheist religion" because nobody believes in everything; Christians believe there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster. This isn't how you define religion. I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours :P -- Sig space for rent. Got something you'd like to see spread around? Give me a shout out, I'll probably sig it. <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:1021264] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: Mr Lasastryke \| #102Is there a practical difference between "I don't believe in a deity" and "I believe there is no deity"? Are you arguing that atheism is not a set of beliefs because you and some other atheists may say the former?No, I'm saying atheism isn't a religion because religion is always about ___ existing, and not about ___ not existing.Otherwise, every single person on the planet would be part of this "atheist religion" because nobody believes in everything; Christians believe there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster. This isn't how you define religion.I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours:P -- Sig space for rent. Got something you'd like to see spread around? Give me a shout out, I'll probably sig it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wg64Z 04/12/12 10:40:00 AM #106:	If it has seeds, it's a fruit. I don't know why tomatoes were brought into this... <cite>wg64Z posted [p:1021265] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> If it has seeds, it's a fruit.I don't know why tomatoes were brought into this... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 04/12/12 10:42:00 AM #107:	There is a difference between "I don't believe in a deity" and "I believe there is no deity". The former is agnostic atheism, which the majority of atheists I've encountered are, and I personally do not consider to be a religion. The later is gnostic atheism, which is where one claims they can be certain there is no god, which I would consider a religion. However, I've never actually ran into one of these in real life >_>. "I believe there is no deity" implies the person isn't certain about their claim, though. Shouldn't they say: "There is no deity" in this instance? <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:1021266] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> There is a difference between "I don't believe in a deity" and "I believe there is no deity".The former is agnostic atheism, which the majority of atheists I've encountered are, and I personally do not consider to be a religion.The later is gnostic atheism, which is where one claims they can be certain there is no god, which I would consider a religion. However, I've never actually ran into one of these in real life >_>."I believe there is no deity" implies the person isn't certain about their claim, though. Shouldn't they say: "There is no deity" in this instance? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 04/12/12 10:44:00 AM #108:	From: wg64Z \| #106 If it has seeds, it's a fruit. I don't know why tomatoes were brought into this... "Fruit" and "Vegetable" are not mutually exclusive titles. Tomatoes are both fruits and vegetables. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.png Ok everyone this is Bartz so just remember. <cite>KingButz posted [p:1021267] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: wg64Z \| #106If it has seeds, it's a fruit.I don't know why tomatoes were brought into this..."Fruit" and "Vegetable" are not mutually exclusive titles. Tomatoes are both fruits and vegetables. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.pngOk everyone this is Bartz so just remember. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 04/12/12 10:45:00 AM #109:	*wg64Z posted...* If it has seeds, it's a fruit. I don't know why tomatoes were brought into this... Because of stupid semantics. You can call a tomato a fruit all you want, and you're technically right, but you're not impressing anyone by saying it's a vegetable. Just like saying atheism isn't a religion is technically right, but you look like an ass when you're trying to "correct" people who say it is a religion. There's really no need to be so strict about labels. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0w5gaZ9I51r5z4sho3_250.gif?tti <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:1021268] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> wg64Z posted...If it has seeds, it's a fruit.I don't know why tomatoes were brought into this...Because of stupid semantics. You can call a tomato a fruit all you want, and you're technically right, but you're not impressing anyone by saying it's a vegetable. Just like saying atheism isn't a religion is technically right, but you look like an ass when you're trying to "correct" people who say it is a religion. There's really no need to be so strict about labels. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0w5gaZ9I51r5z4sho3_250.gif?tti </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zachnorn 04/12/12 10:45:00 AM #110:	No, I'm saying atheism isn't a religion because religion is always about ___ existing, and not about ___ not existing. Otherwise, every single person on the planet would be part of this "atheist religion" because nobody believes in everything; Christians believe there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster. This isn't how you define religion. I'm not calling atheism a religion. I am referring to its beliefs as religious beliefs. Not believing in aliens (or believing that they do not exist) is a belief about the existence or nonexistence of aliens. It's just like that. -- Everything is overrated - <D I would gladly take 90 whippings and be sentenced to 2 years in jail than have my account warned. - NotYou <cite>Zachnorn posted [p:1021269] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> No, I'm saying atheism isn't a religion because religion is always about ___ existing, and not about ___ not existing.Otherwise, every single person on the planet would be part of this "atheist religion" because nobody believes in everything; Christians believe there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster. This isn't how you define religion.I'm not calling atheism a religion. I am referring to its beliefs as religious beliefs. Not believing in aliens (or believing that they do not exist) is a belief about the existence or nonexistence of aliens. It's just like that. -- Everything is overrated - <DI would gladly take 90 whippings and be sentenced to 2 years in jail than have my account warned. - NotYou </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 04/12/12 10:46:00 AM #111:	Yeah, I know Dawkins does state we are all atheists. I'd say atheists are people who don't believe in any deities, though. <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:1021270] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, I know Dawkins does state we are all atheists. I'd say atheists are people who don't believe in any deities, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 04/12/12 10:46:00 AM #112:	Well, most Christians would say they believe in God. They would also say that God exists. As far as religion goes, the word believe is used somewhat differently than normal at times. -- http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/FDpnggy.png <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:1021271] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Well, most Christians would say they believe in God. They would also say that God exists. As far as religion goes, the word believe is used somewhat differently than normal at times. -- http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/FDpnggy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 04/12/12 10:47:00 AM #113:	From: KingButz \| #108 "Fruit" and "Vegetable" are not mutually exclusive titles. Tomatoes are both fruits and vegetables. I hope you realize that they refer to two different sets of definitions though. A tomato is not a fruit when it comes to food groups. It is a vegetable only. However when referring to the anatomy of plants, it is a fruit. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:1021272] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: KingButz \| #108"Fruit" and "Vegetable" are not mutually exclusive titles. Tomatoes are both fruits and vegetables.I hope you realize that they refer to two different sets of definitions though.A tomato is not a fruit when it comes to food groups. It is a vegetable only.However when referring to the anatomy of plants, it is a fruit. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zachnorn 04/12/12 10:48:00 AM #114:	This is why I refer to tomatoes as "produce." -- Everything is overrated - <D I would gladly take 90 whippings and be sentenced to 2 years in jail than have my account warned. - NotYou <cite>Zachnorn posted [p:1021273] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> This is why I refer to tomatoes as "produce." -- Everything is overrated - <DI would gladly take 90 whippings and be sentenced to 2 years in jail than have my account warned. - NotYou </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 04/12/12 10:49:00 AM #115:	From: Mr Lasastryke \| #107 "I believe there is no deity" implies the person isn't certain about their claim, though. Shouldn't they say: "There is no deity" in this instance? The use of the word believe can imply uncertainty but can also indicate politeness or respect for the belief of others. For example there are many people who are certain that a God exists but they may just say they believe that He exists to avoid argument. EDIT: pjbasis, yes, I realize this. Anyone who thinks that tomatoes are a fruit in a culinary sense is misinformed. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.png Ok everyone this is Bartz so just remember. <cite>KingButz posted [p:1021274] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: Mr Lasastryke \| #107"I believe there is no deity" implies the person isn't certain about their claim, though. Shouldn't they say: "There is no deity" in this instance?The use of the word believe can imply uncertainty but can also indicate politeness or respect for the belief of others. For example there are many people who are certain that a God exists but they may just say they believe that He exists to avoid argument.EDIT: pjbasis, yes, I realize this. Anyone who thinks that tomatoes are a fruit in a culinary sense is misinformed. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.pngOk everyone this is Bartz so just remember. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 04/12/12 10:49:00 AM #116:	From: Mr Lasastryke \| #111 Yeah, I know Dawkins does state we are all atheists. I'd say atheists are people who don't believe in any deities, though. I was mostly joking when I posted that. Also I don't think it was Dawkins who said that, though I'd have to check. -- http://img.imgcake.com/SantaRPG/MAIZEpngdu.png <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:1021275] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: Mr Lasastryke \| #111Yeah, I know Dawkins does state we are all atheists. I'd say atheists are people who don't believe in any deities, though.I was mostly joking when I posted that. Also I don't think it was Dawkins who said that, though I'd have to check. -- http://img.imgcake.com/SantaRPG/MAIZEpngdu.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 04/12/12 10:53:00 AM #117:	As the saying goes, if not believing in God is a religion, not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:1021276] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> As the saying goes, if not believing in God is a religion, not collecting stamps is a hobby. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 04/12/12 10:54:00 AM #118:	Just like saying atheism isn't a religion is technically right, but you look like an ass when you're trying to "correct" people who say it is a religion. There's really no need to be so strict about labels. 1) Not sure why you're putting "correct" between quotation marks. 2) The reason I'm "so strict about labels" is because I see this "atheism is a religion" BS all the time, and a conversation about religion isn't worth much when a bunch of people in it don't even seem to know what religion is. You're basically saying I look like an ass for explaining that 1+1 is not 3. I'm not calling atheism a religion. I am referring to its beliefs as religious beliefs. Not believing in aliens (or believing that they do not exist) is a belief about the existence or nonexistence of aliens. It's just like that. I wasn't talking about that. Whether you can define a lack of belief as belief is a semantic debate I'm not getting into. <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:1021277] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Just like saying atheism isn't a religion is technically right, but you look like an ass when you're trying to "correct" people who say it is a religion. There's really no need to be so strict about labels.1) Not sure why you're putting "correct" between quotation marks.2) The reason I'm "so strict about labels" is because I see this "atheism is a religion" BS all the time, and a conversation about religion isn't worth much when a bunch of people in it don't even seem to know what religion is. You're basically saying I look like an ass for explaining that 1+1 is not 3.I'm not calling atheism a religion. I am referring to its beliefs as religious beliefs. Not believing in aliens (or believing that they do not exist) is a belief about the existence or nonexistence of aliens. It's just like that.I wasn't talking about that. Whether you can define a lack of belief as belief is a semantic debate I'm not getting into. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 04/12/12 10:56:00 AM #119:	*Mr Lasastryke posted...* Just like saying atheism isn't a religion is technically right, but you look like an ass when you're trying to "correct" people who say it is a religion. There's really no need to be so strict about labels. 1) Not sure why you're putting correct between quotation marks. 2) The reason I'm "so strict about labels" is because I see this "atheism is a religion" BS all the time, and a conversation about religion isn't worth much when a bunch of people in it don't even seem to know what religion is. You're basically saying I look like an ass for explaining that 1+1 is not 3. But it's just splitting hairs. I really don't see how calling atheism a religion or not a religion affects much at all except the label you're putting on it. If an atheist says that atheism is their religion, how does this really affect your conversation at all? -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0w5gaZ9I51r5z4sho3_250.gif?tti <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:1021278] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Mr Lasastryke posted...Just like saying atheism isn't a religion is technically right, but you look like an ass when you're trying to "correct" people who say it is a religion. There's really no need to be so strict about labels.1) Not sure why you're putting correct between quotation marks.2) The reason I'm "so strict about labels" is because I see this "atheism is a religion" BS all the time, and a conversation about religion isn't worth much when a bunch of people in it don't even seem to know what religion is. You're basically saying I look like an ass for explaining that 1+1 is not 3.But it's just splitting hairs. I really don't see how calling atheism a religion or not a religion affects much at all except the label you're putting on it. If an atheist says that atheism is their religion, how does this really affect your conversation at all? -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0w5gaZ9I51r5z4sho3_250.gif?tti </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 04/12/12 10:59:00 AM #120:	It might not immediately influence the conversation, just like how it might not immediately be a problem if I think 1+1=3. Doesn't mean I shouldn't correct people who have an incorrect view on the matter. <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:1021279] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> It might not immediately influence the conversation, just like how it might not immediately be a problem if I think 1+1=3. Doesn't mean I shouldn't correct people who have an incorrect view on the matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 04/12/12 11:05:00 AM #121:	I'm a bit touchy on the whole atheism as a religion topic because of one particularly painful discussion with one guy who insisted that atheism is as faith based as Christianity, which was followed by him trying to use that to debunk science as a whole (despite atheism and science not being connected in any actual way >_>). It's not necessary to make the distinction most of the time, but when it is it really is. -- MMBN style fighting game made by me in the link below! http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/184947-b8bn <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:1021280] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> I'm a bit touchy on the whole atheism as a religion topic because of one particularly painful discussion with one guy who insisted that atheism is as faith based as Christianity, which was followed by him trying to use that to debunk science as a whole (despite atheism and science not being connected in any actual way >_>). It's not necessary to make the distinction most of the time, but when it is it really is. -- MMBN style fighting game made by me in the link below!http://sandbox.yoyogames.com/games/184947-b8bn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 04/12/12 11:08:00 AM #122:	Well science does have a leap of faith you must take at the very start. The belief that the universe does follow physical law and inherent patterns of nature. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:1021281] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Well science does have a leap of faith you must take at the very start.The belief that the universe does follow physical law and inherent patterns of nature. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 04/12/12 11:10:00 AM #123:	Forcing the distinction seems to just get away from the topic at hand though. I'm even willing to say that you're right and that atheism is not a religion, but if I'm trying to have a conversation with someone and I throw out this nitpicky detail that doesn't really change their views, it would be easy to get off track and just waste a lot of time. I can see instances where it's necessary, but I don't think that it's necessary to correct someone on this 90% of the time. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0w5gaZ9I51r5z4sho3_250.gif?tti <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:1021282] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Forcing the distinction seems to just get away from the topic at hand though. I'm even willing to say that you're right and that atheism is not a religion, but if I'm trying to have a conversation with someone and I throw out this nitpicky detail that doesn't really change their views, it would be easy to get off track and just waste a lot of time. I can see instances where it's necessary, but I don't think that it's necessary to correct someone on this 90% of the time. -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0w5gaZ9I51r5z4sho3_250.gif?tti </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 04/12/12 11:10:00 AM #124:	Fair enough. I assume that mostly because if I don't, then trying to discover the truth behind anything becomes meaningless >_>. -- http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/FDpnggy.png <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:1021283] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Fair enough. I assume that mostly because if I don't, then trying to discover the truth behind anything becomes meaningless >_>. -- http://img.imgcake.com/Punny/FDpnggy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MRNlCEWATCH 04/12/12 11:12:00 AM #125:	I like how virtually everything Mrs. Lasastryke has said fits perfectly w/ this topic. -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch! somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING <cite>MRNlCEWATCH posted [p:1021284] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> I like how virtually everything Mrs. Lasastryke has said fits perfectly w/ this topic. -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch!somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JeffreyRaze 04/12/12 11:13:00 AM #126:	Well, a lot of the time when it does come up, people are trying to use it as some sort of attack on atheism. If it's an honest conversation it really doesn't matter though. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/JeffRaze1pngdy.png <cite>JeffreyRaze posted [p:1021285] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Well, a lot of the time when it does come up, people are trying to use it as some sort of attack on atheism. If it's an honest conversation it really doesn't matter though. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/JeffRaze1pngdy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MRNlCEWATCH 04/12/12 12:32:00 PM #127:	"You'll pray for me? Heh...cute. How about getting off your ass and doing something? Heh." -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch! somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING <cite>MRNlCEWATCH posted [p:1021286] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> "You'll pray for me? Heh...cute. How about getting off your ass and doing something? Heh." -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch!somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 04/12/12 12:37:00 PM #128:	From: KingButz \| #094 Maybe it was SBell... isn't he pretty adamant about his atheism? He was definitely the one who got mad about people saying "god bless you," he might have gotten mad about that one as well -- (10:17:09 PM) Ed Bellis: i think pac-man just keeps repeating, for instance (10:17:26 PM) ertyu: ya well tell that to billy michtlle <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:1021287] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: KingButz \| #094Maybe it was SBell... isn't he pretty adamant about his atheism?He was definitely the one who got mad about people saying "god bless you," he might have gotten mad about that one as well -- (10:17:09 PM) Ed Bellis: i think pac-man just keeps repeating, for instance(10:17:26 PM) ertyu: ya well tell that to billy michtlle </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 04/12/12 12:44:00 PM #129:	In fairness, he didn't "get mad" at that - he just said it's a stupid expression because not everyone in the world is a Christian. Still a pretty stupid thing to complain about, though. <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:1021288] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> In fairness, he didn't "get mad" at that - he just said it's a stupid expression because not everyone in the world is a Christian. Still a pretty stupid thing to complain about, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Panthera 04/12/12 12:52:00 PM #130:	From: MarvelousGerbil \| #119 But it's just splitting hairs. I really don't see how calling atheism a religion or not a religion affects much at all except the label you're putting on it. If an atheist says that atheism is their religion, how does this really affect your conversation at all? It affects everything in the conversation because the entire reason its a problem is because people do think atheism is a religion, complete with all that entails. That's why you see so many people saying dumb stuff like "atheism says <insert moral philosophy>" or "atheists think <insert something other than non-belief in deities>" because they don't understand that there isn't some unifying code of atheism that all of us must adhere to. If two people are Christians (of the same denomination in particular), you can reasonably expect a lot of shared beliefs because to define yourself as Christian (of that denomination in particular), you have a specifically outlined belief system you're agreeing to. You don't just believe a god exists, you believe in a specific god that has given specific moral commandments and a specific idea of the nature of the universe and all that. That does not exist whatsoever with atheism - there are no extra beliefs or ideas inherently associated with being an atheist beyond not believing in any gods. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. <cite>Panthera posted [p:1021289] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: MarvelousGerbil \| #119But it's just splitting hairs. I really don't see how calling atheism a religion or not a religion affects much at all except the label you're putting on it. If an atheist says that atheism is their religion, how does this really affect your conversation at all?It affects everything in the conversation because the entire reason its a problem is because people do think atheism is a religion, complete with all that entails. That's why you see so many people saying dumb stuff like "atheism says <insert moral philosophy>" or "atheists think <insert something other than non-belief in deities>" because they don't understand that there isn't some unifying code of atheism that all of us must adhere to. If two people are Christians (of the same denomination in particular), you can reasonably expect a lot of shared beliefs because to define yourself as Christian (of that denomination in particular), you have a specifically outlined belief system you're agreeing to. You don't just believe a god exists, you believe in a specific god that has given specific moral commandments and a specific idea of the nature of the universe and all that. That does not exist whatsoever with atheism - there are no extra beliefs or ideas inherently associated with being an atheist beyond not believing in any gods. -- Mistake you're making - overlooking the fact that we might not want to be saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlphaRayAllen 04/12/12 12:53:00 PM #131:	From: VincentLauw \| #092 I can attest for the fact that I do remember such a topic on this board like Bio said, no idea if it was IglooBob that is all Good enough for me. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] <cite>AlphaRayAllen posted [p:1021290] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: VincentLauw \| #092I can attest for the fact that I do remember such a topic on this board like Bio said, no idea if it was IglooBobthat is allGood enough for me. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo[NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MRNlCEWATCH 04/12/12 1:24:00 PM #132:	*Panthera posted...* From: MarvelousGerbil \| #119 But it's just splitting hairs. I really don't see how calling atheism a religion or not a religion affects much at all except the label you're putting on it. If an atheist says that atheism is their religion, how does this really affect your conversation at all? It affects everything in the conversation because the entire reason its a problem is because people do think atheism is a religion, complete with all that entails. That's why you see so many people saying dumb stuff like "atheism says <insert moral philosophy>" or "atheists think <insert something other than non-belief in deities>" because they don't understand that there isn't some unifying code of atheism that all of us must adhere to. If two people are Christians (of the same denomination in particular), you can reasonably expect a lot of shared beliefs because to define yourself as Christian (of that denomination in particular), you have a specifically outlined belief system you're agreeing to. You don't just believe a god exists, you believe in a specific god that has given specific moral commandments and a specific idea of the nature of the universe and all that. That does not exist whatsoever with atheism - there are no extra beliefs or ideas inherently associated with being an atheist beyond not believing in any gods. Thank you for this wonderful entry for the topic. -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch! somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING <cite>MRNlCEWATCH posted [p:1021291] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Panthera posted...From: MarvelousGerbil \| #119But it's just splitting hairs. I really don't see how calling atheism a religion or not a religion affects much at all except the label you're putting on it. If an atheist says that atheism is their religion, how does this really affect your conversation at all?It affects everything in the conversation because the entire reason its a problem is because people do think atheism is a religion, complete with all that entails. That's why you see so many people saying dumb stuff like "atheism says <insert moral philosophy>" or "atheists think <insert something other than non-belief in deities>" because they don't understand that there isn't some unifying code of atheism that all of us must adhere to. If two people are Christians (of the same denomination in particular), you can reasonably expect a lot of shared beliefs because to define yourself as Christian (of that denomination in particular), you have a specifically outlined belief system you're agreeing to. You don't just believe a god exists, you believe in a specific god that has given specific moral commandments and a specific idea of the nature of the universe and all that. That does not exist whatsoever with atheism - there are no extra beliefs or ideas inherently associated with being an atheist beyond not believing in any gods.Thank you for this wonderful entry for the topic. -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch!somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GaryOak151 04/12/12 1:53:00 PM #133:	i love how sess continues to make these topics than swear up and down on aim that he isn't trolling but he gets 100+ posts every time so i guess he's "winning" -- Warning_Crazy Winner of Board 8 Big Brother! "You can't believe everything you read on the internet." -- Mark Twain <cite>GaryOak151 posted [p:1021292] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> i love how sess continues to make these topics than swear up and down on aim that he isn't trollingbut he gets 100+ posts every time so i guess he's "winning" -- Warning_Crazy Winner of Board 8 Big Brother!"You can't believe everything you read on the internet." -- Mark Twain </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 04/12/12 1:59:00 PM #134:	w_c just jealous -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.png Ok everyone this is Bartz so just remember. <cite>KingButz posted [p:1021293] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> w_c just jealous -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/bokbokbokpngur.pngOk everyone this is Bartz so just remember. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 04/12/12 2:04:00 PM #135:	What a stupid topic. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:1021294] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> What a stupid topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cf is best 04/12/12 2:14:00 PM #136:	"There would be no war if there was no religion" - paraphrase from my friend. Being an atheist is so embarrassing these days. -- http://www.last.fm/user/TehMop Congrats to BlackTurtle! <cite>cf is best posted [p:1021295] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> "There would be no war if there was no religion" - paraphrase from my friend. Being an atheist is so embarrassing these days. -- http://www.last.fm/user/TehMopCongrats to BlackTurtle! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 04/12/12 2:16:00 PM #137:	"If the bible told you to go jump off a bridge, would you do it?" -- See You In Another Life, Brother. God, too busy to help the broncos on Sundays, gave them Manning <cite>Ashethan posted [p:1021296] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> "If the bible told you to go jump off a bridge, would you do it?" -- See You In Another Life, Brother.God, too busy to help the broncos on Sundays, gave them Manning </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 04/12/12 2:18:00 PM #138:	"Being an atheist is so embarrassing these days." -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:1021297] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> "Being an atheist is so embarrassing these days." -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 04/12/12 2:31:00 PM #139:	Being an atheist is so embarrassing these days. Stupidity has never been exclusive to atheists. <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:1021298] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Being an atheist is so embarrassing these days.Stupidity has never been exclusive to atheists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MRNlCEWATCH 04/12/12 2:42:00 PM #140:	*PerfectChaosZ posted...* What a stupid topic. Go back to reddit. -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch! somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING <cite>MRNlCEWATCH posted [p:1021299] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> PerfectChaosZ posted...What a stupid topic.Go back to reddit. -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch!somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToukaOone 04/12/12 5:29:00 PM #141:	*pjbasis posted...* Well science does have a leap of faith you must take at the very start. The belief that the universe does follow physical law and inherent patterns of nature. I am going to blow a gasket next time I see someone say this. Science doesn't say that the universe follows physical laws. Science tentatively guesses that the physical laws follows the universe, or else it would have fallen apart the first time some 'physical law' was disproven. -- You're messing with me! You're messing with me, aren't you!? You're making fun of me, aren't you!? Aren't you!? You definitely are! I'll murder you! <cite>ToukaOone posted [p:1021300] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> pjbasis posted...Well science does have a leap of faith you must take at the very start.The belief that the universe does follow physical law and inherent patterns of nature.I am going to blow a gasket next time I see someone say this. Science doesn't say that the universe follows physical laws. Science tentatively guesses that the physical laws follows the universe, or else it would have fallen apart the first time some 'physical law' was disproven. -- You're messing with me! You're messing with me, aren't you!?You're making fun of me, aren't you!? Aren't you!? You definitely are! I'll murder you! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MRNlCEWATCH 04/12/12 5:59:00 PM #142:	I heard this in class tonight "I would put my son up for adoption if he said he was a Christian" -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch! somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING <cite>MRNlCEWATCH posted [p:1021301] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> I heard this in class tonight"I would put my son up for adoption if he said he was a Christian" -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch!somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 04/12/12 6:03:00 PM #143:	What class was that? -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:1021302] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> What class was that? -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 04/12/12 6:04:00 PM #144:	From: ToukaOone \| #141 Science doesn't say that the universe follows physical laws. Science tentatively guesses that the physical laws follows the universe, or else it would have fallen apart the first time some 'physical law' was disproven. Huh? Not quite sure what you mean. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:1021303] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: ToukaOone \| #141Science doesn't say that the universe follows physical laws. Science tentatively guesses that the physical laws follows the universe, or else it would have fallen apart the first time some 'physical law' was disproven.Huh?Not quite sure what you mean. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MRNlCEWATCH 04/12/12 6:04:00 PM #145:	public policy but it wasn't like a response to something in class, i just overheard it in conversation -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch! somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING <cite>MRNlCEWATCH posted [p:1021304] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> public policy but it wasn't like a response to something in class, i just overheard it in conversation -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch!somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Westbrick 04/12/12 6:10:00 PM #146:	Science doesn't say that the universe follows physical laws. Science tentatively guesses that the physical laws follows the universe, or else it would have fallen apart the first time some 'physical law' was disproven. Science assumes plenty of things about the nature of the universe; it approaches things with a definite theory of truth and posits a number of concepts, such as matter, time, energy, and motion, without being able to question what they are (although it can certainly look into how they work, their essences are questions for philosophy). Besides, even if science as a method doesn't posit beliefs about the world, scientists do. -- Kobe XX http://tinyurl.com/7n46st9 <cite>Westbrick posted [p:1021305] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> Science doesn't say that the universe follows physical laws. Science tentatively guesses that the physical laws follows the universe, or else it would have fallen apart the first time some 'physical law' was disproven.Science assumes plenty of things about the nature of the universe; it approaches things with a definite theory of truth and posits a number of concepts, such as matter, time, energy, and motion, without being able to question what they are (although it can certainly look into how they work, their essences are questions for philosophy). Besides, even if science as a method doesn't posit beliefs about the world, scientists do. -- Kobe XXhttp://tinyurl.com/7n46st9 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToukaOone 04/12/12 6:12:00 PM #147:	*pjbasis posted...* From: ToukaOone \| #141 Science doesn't say that the universe follows physical laws. Science tentatively guesses that the physical laws follows the universe, or else it would have fallen apart the first time some 'physical law' was disproven. Huh? Not quite sure what you mean. You are confusing the map with the territory. You said that the territory was unmappable. But unmappability is not a property of the territory, it's a property of the person who draws the map. In simpler terms, 'physical laws' is not something the universe has; it's something we have. If a physical law is wrong, it's because we're wrong, not because the universe is wrong. And Westbrick; how about tying up loose threads in the other topic before starting up old threads in this one? -- You're messing with me! You're messing with me, aren't you!? You're making fun of me, aren't you!? Aren't you!? You definitely are! I'll murder you! <cite>ToukaOone posted [p:1021306] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> pjbasis posted...From: ToukaOone \| #141Science doesn't say that the universe follows physical laws. Science tentatively guesses that the physical laws follows the universe, or else it would have fallen apart the first time some 'physical law' was disproven.Huh?Not quite sure what you mean.You are confusing the map with the territory. You said that the territory was unmappable. But unmappability is not a property of the territory, it's a property of the person who draws the map. In simpler terms, 'physical laws' is not something the universe has; it's something we have. If a physical law is wrong, it's because we're wrong, not because the universe is wrong.And Westbrick; how about tying up loose threads in the other topic before starting up old threads in this one? -- You're messing with me! You're messing with me, aren't you!?You're making fun of me, aren't you!? Aren't you!? You definitely are! I'll murder you! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MRNlCEWATCH 04/12/12 6:13:00 PM #148:	newbie you have a knack for communicating stuff like this well but you already knew that -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch! somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING <cite>MRNlCEWATCH posted [p:1021307] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> newbie you have a knack for communicating stuff like this wellbut you already knew that -- no more mr. nice sess....hello mr. nice watch!somebody call the brinks truck! I INVENTED POSTING </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vcharon 04/12/12 6:14:00 PM #149:	*wg64Z posted...* If it has seeds, it's a fruit. I don't know why tomatoes were brought into this... You have offended me. I firmly believe in the almighty Great Tomato and I demand an apology. -- Still smilin' :> <cite>vcharon posted [p:1021308] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> wg64Z posted...If it has seeds, it's a fruit.I don't know why tomatoes were brought into this...You have offended me. I firmly believe in the almighty Great Tomato and I demand an apology. -- Still smilin':> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 04/12/12 9:06:00 PM #150:	From: ToukaOone \| #147 In simpler terms, 'physical laws' is not something the universe has; it's something we have. If a physical law is wrong, it's because we're wrong, not because the universe is wrong. I might still not be fully understanding this, but what I'm trying to say is that maybe their is no discernible pattern to the universe. Science assumes there is. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:1021309] in $#!? Athei... [t:62518940]...</cite> <quote> From: ToukaOone \| #147In simpler terms, 'physical laws' is not something the universe has; it's something we have. If a physical law is wrong, it's because we're wrong, not because the universe is wrong.I might still not be fully understanding this, but what I'm trying to say is that maybe their is no discernible pattern to the universe. Science assumes there is. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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