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red sox 777 05/09/12 9:34:00 PM #201:	I kind of wonder what would happen if the Supreme Court said for their healthcare ruling: "All our Commerce Clause jurisprudence since 1937 was wrong. Half of the statutes Congress has passed since then are all unconstitutional. Good luck." -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:1123546] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> I kind of wonder what would happen if the Supreme Court said for their healthcare ruling: "All our Commerce Clause jurisprudence since 1937 was wrong. Half of the statutes Congress has passed since then are all unconstitutional. Good luck." -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 05/09/12 9:38:00 PM #202:	From: A_FamiIy_Man \| #199 I'm with SM. Amend the constitution so ass backwards locals can't legalize stupid s* or outlaw something because they're tools. Too bad nobody will do it because the starfathers knew how to make the perfect form of government and to change it is heresy. Still more likely than a book written about 2000 years ago being used as a way to dictate morality. -- http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:1123547] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> From: A_FamiIy_Man \| #199I'm with SM. Amend the constitution so ass backwards locals can't legalize stupid s* or outlaw something because they're tools. Too bad nobody will do it because the starfathers knew how to make the perfect form of government and to change it is heresy.Still more likely than a book written about 2000 years ago being used as a way to dictate morality. -- http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 05/09/12 9:41:00 PM #203:	A book written 2000 years ago, garbled from its original meaning by translation and then selectively chopped up by that eternal beacon of not being corrupt and manipulative, the Catholic Church. Then we use it to dictate morality -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:1123548] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> A book written 2000 years ago, garbled from its original meaning by translation and then selectively chopped up by that eternal beacon of not being corrupt and manipulative, the Catholic Church. Then we use it to dictate morality -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/09/12 9:44:00 PM #204:	We broke free of the clutches of the Catholic Church hundreds of years ago. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:1123549] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> We broke free of the clutches of the Catholic Church hundreds of years ago. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 05/09/12 9:44:00 PM #205:	Well, I was going for the abridged version, but yeah. -- http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:1123550] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> Well, I was going for the abridged version, but yeah. -- http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/09/12 9:46:00 PM #206:	Also, the reason it has lasted 2000 years is because it is both true and effective. By contrast your liberals' Communist wonderland the Soviet Union only lasted 74 years. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:1123551] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> Also, the reason it has lasted 2000 years is because it is both true and effective. By contrast your liberals' Communist wonderland the Soviet Union only lasted 74 years. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 05/09/12 9:48:00 PM #207:	From: red sox 777 \| #201 I kind of wonder what would happen if the Supreme Court said for their healthcare ruling: "All our Commerce Clause jurisprudence since 1937 was wrong. Half of the statutes Congress has passed since then are all unconstitutional. Good luck." Doesn't really work that way though. When they overturned the DC gun ban, they didn't overturn every single firearms regulation in the country, which is what it SHOULD have done. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:1123552] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> From: red sox 777 \| #201I kind of wonder what would happen if the Supreme Court said for their healthcare ruling: "All our Commerce Clause jurisprudence since 1937 was wrong. Half of the statutes Congress has passed since then are all unconstitutional. Good luck."Doesn't really work that way though. When they overturned the DC gun ban, they didn't overturn every single firearms regulation in the country, which is what it SHOULD have done. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/09/12 9:52:00 PM #208:	Doesn't really work that way though. When they overturned the DC gun ban, they didn't overturn every single firearms regulation in the country, which is what it SHOULD have done. Because they didn't decide to overturn every firearms regulation in the country. And they won't overturn all the post-1937 Commerce Clause cases, because while the Court actually gives it some teeth now, it is nowhere near as conservative as the 1930s court. But if it did (say, if the 4 liberal judges retired during President Romney's administration and he replaced them with copies of Clarence Thomas), it'd be interesting to see the chaos that would unfold. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:1123553] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> Doesn't really work that way though. When they overturned the DC gun ban, they didn't overturn every single firearms regulation in the country, which is what it SHOULD have done.Because they didn't decide to overturn every firearms regulation in the country. And they won't overturn all the post-1937 Commerce Clause cases, because while the Court actually gives it some teeth now, it is nowhere near as conservative as the 1930s court. But if it did (say, if the 4 liberal judges retired during President Romney's administration and he replaced them with copies of Clarence Thomas), it'd be interesting to see the chaos that would unfold. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 05/09/12 10:00:00 PM #209:	Because they didn't decide to overturn every firearms regulation in the country. And yet, the decision they made essentially implies that they will, they're just going to make EVERY single jurisdiction take it to court first for some incredibly stupid reason. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:1123554] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> Because they didn't decide to overturn every firearms regulation in the country. And yet, the decision they made essentially implies that they will, they're just going to make EVERY single jurisdiction take it to court first for some incredibly stupid reason. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/09/12 10:06:00 PM #210:	And yet, the decision they made essentially implies that they will, they're just going to make EVERY single jurisdiction take it to court first for some incredibly stupid reason. Looked at the history, and it seems the DC case applied to all federal territories. The Court then applied it to all the states 2 years later when overturning Chicago's gun law. Neither case abolishes all gun regulations anywhere however. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:1123555] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> And yet, the decision they made essentially implies that they will, they're just going to make EVERY single jurisdiction take it to court first for some incredibly stupid reason.Looked at the history, and it seems the DC case applied to all federal territories. The Court then applied it to all the states 2 years later when overturning Chicago's gun law. Neither case abolishes all gun regulations anywhere however. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 05/10/12 6:25:00 AM #211:	But the justification for all the gun regulations was "the second amendment is just about a militia and doesn't apply to individuals" In the DC case (and subsequently in Chicago) the SC ruled that the second amendment obviously IS meant to apply to individuals. It's literally the equivalent of them coming out and saying "No, the commerce clause doesn't mean you can do that AT ALL" -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:1123556] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> But the justification for all the gun regulations was "the second amendment is just about a militia and doesn't apply to individuals"In the DC case (and subsequently in Chicago) the SC ruled that the second amendment obviously IS meant to apply to individuals. It's literally the equivalent of them coming out and saying "No, the commerce clause doesn't mean you can do that AT ALL" -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/10/12 7:14:00 AM #212:	The Supreme Court didn't mean that the right is never subject to any limitations, however. In general, none of the rights have been held to be subject to zero limitations. I mean, it'd be one thing if they said that Illinois cannot have any regulations on guns whatsoever because its government leaders are all crooks, but we won't decide for Indiana until someone brings a case against the state in the courts. Here, they're being consistent across the states, the ruling just doesn't go as far as you were hoping for, I guess. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:1123557] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> The Supreme Court didn't mean that the right is never subject to any limitations, however. In general, none of the rights have been held to be subject to zero limitations. I mean, it'd be one thing if they said that Illinois cannot have any regulations on guns whatsoever because its government leaders are all crooks, but we won't decide for Indiana until someone brings a case against the state in the courts. Here, they're being consistent across the states, the ruling just doesn't go as far as you were hoping for, I guess. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brian sulpher 05/10/12 11:46:00 AM #213:	you hypocritical inflatable balloon I spit out my water on that one... maybe the best physical description of Rush L I have ever read. As for this law being passed, I wonder how many people voted themselves into a worse position (death of civil unions and loss of benefits) just because it banned gay marriage? That would be a neat number to know. -- 77 FAQs for games never covered at www.GameFAQs.com. Redemption is only three fights away <cite>brian sulpher posted [p:1123558] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> you hypocritical inflatable balloonI spit out my water on that one... maybe the best physical description of Rush L I have ever read.As for this law being passed, I wonder how many people voted themselves into a worse position (death of civil unions and loss of benefits) just because it banned gay marriage? That would be a neat number to know. -- 77 FAQs for games never covered at www.GameFAQs.com.Redemption is only three fights away </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoshifan823 05/10/12 1:23:00 PM #214:	*red sox 777 posted...* Also, the reason it has lasted 2000 years is because it is both true and effective. By contrast your liberals' Communist wonderland the Soviet Union only lasted 74 years. OK, if you're allowed to call liberals Communist, am I allowed to call conservatives Fascist? Because it's an equally implausible and silly jump in logic. Also, if people actually read the bible, and got the message, I'd be happy to follow the basic morality of it for my life. As in, I'd be happy to treat others as I wish to be treated, to help the poor, sick, hungry and homeless, and to love my enemies as my neighbors. Those are all pretty awesome things to live by. The only good (in terms of morality) part of the bible is the Gospels. The Old Testament is a bunch of old stories of varying accuracy that apply to living in a time vastly, vastly different from the one we live in now, and Paul was a big ol' jerk, and Revelation is The Old Testament without any judgment calls, morality-wise. <cite>yoshifan823 posted [p:1123559] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> red sox 777 posted...Also, the reason it has lasted 2000 years is because it is both true and effective. By contrast your liberals' Communist wonderland the Soviet Union only lasted 74 years.OK, if you're allowed to call liberals Communist, am I allowed to call conservatives Fascist? Because it's an equally implausible and silly jump in logic.Also, if people actually read the bible, and got the message, I'd be happy to follow the basic morality of it for my life. As in, I'd be happy to treat others as I wish to be treated, to help the poor, sick, hungry and homeless, and to love my enemies as my neighbors. Those are all pretty awesome things to live by.The only good (in terms of morality) part of the bible is the Gospels. The Old Testament is a bunch of old stories of varying accuracy that apply to living in a time vastly, vastly different from the one we live in now, and Paul was a big ol' jerk, and Revelation is The Old Testament without any judgment calls, morality-wise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 05/10/12 5:42:00 PM #215:	OK, if you're allowed to call liberals Communist, am I allowed to call conservatives Fascist? No, because most conservatives want less government, which is literally the exact opposite of fascism. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:1123560] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> OK, if you're allowed to call liberals Communist, am I allowed to call conservatives Fascist?No, because most conservatives want less government, which is literally the exact opposite of fascism. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 05/10/12 5:44:00 PM #216:	A better question would be: am I allowed to call conservatives anarchists? <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:1123561] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> A better question would be: am I allowed to call conservatives anarchists? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 05/10/12 5:46:00 PM #217:	From: Mr Lasastryke \| #216 A better question would be: am I allowed to call conservatives anarchists? Yes. This one is actually legitimately close and probably the equivalent of calling liberals communists. Except that I won't get mad and yell at you if you call me an anarchist. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpg http://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:1123562] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> From: Mr Lasastryke \| #216A better question would be: am I allowed to call conservatives anarchists?Yes. This one is actually legitimately close and probably the equivalent of calling liberals communists.Except that I won't get mad and yell at you if you call me an anarchist. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized - http://img.imgcake.com/smartmuffin/barkleyjpgde.jpghttp://dudewheresmyfreedom.com/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SupremeZero 05/10/12 5:55:00 PM #218:	From: SmartMuffin \| #217 Yes. This one is actually legitimately close and probably the equivalent of calling liberals communists. Except that I won't get mad and yell at you if you call me an anarchist. I won't get mad if you call me a communist, so I guess it works out? I might laugh, but there's not much I can do about that. -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. <cite>SupremeZero posted [p:1123563] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> From: SmartMuffin \| #217Yes. This one is actually legitimately close and probably the equivalent of calling liberals communists.Except that I won't get mad and yell at you if you call me an anarchist.I won't get mad if you call me a communist, so I guess it works out? I might laugh, but there's not much I can do about that. -- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover, God himself, be your hope. You have to be your own hope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MajinZidane 05/11/12 2:30:00 AM #219:	how come smuffin never replies to me i want to participate =( -- Virtue - "You don't need a reason to Boko United." <cite>MajinZidane posted [p:1123564] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> how come smuffin never replies to me i want to participate =( -- Virtue - "You don't need a reason to Boko United." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 05/11/12 6:39:00 AM #220:	OK, if you're allowed to call liberals Communist, am I allowed to call conservatives Fascist? Because it's an equally implausible and silly jump in logic. Also, if people actually read the bible, and got the message, I'd be happy to follow the basic morality of it for my life. As in, I'd be happy to treat others as I wish to be treated, to help the poor, sick, hungry and homeless, and to love my enemies as my neighbors. Those are all pretty awesome things to live by. The only good (in terms of morality) part of the bible is the Gospels. The Old Testament is a bunch of old stories of varying accuracy that apply to living in a time vastly, vastly different from the one we live in now, and Paul was a big ol' jerk, and Revelation is The Old Testament without any judgment calls, morality-wise. Considering people were insulting Christians and the Bible quite openly here, I see nothing wrong with jokingly calling them Communists. And the Soviet Union imposed atheism on its citizens, which is the central connection. Conservatism needn't even have anything to do with it. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:1123565] in North Caro... [t:62756773]...</cite> <quote> OK, if you're allowed to call liberals Communist, am I allowed to call conservatives Fascist? Because it's an equally implausible and silly jump in logic.Also, if people actually read the bible, and got the message, I'd be happy to follow the basic morality of it for my life. As in, I'd be happy to treat others as I wish to be treated, to help the poor, sick, hungry and homeless, and to love my enemies as my neighbors. Those are all pretty awesome things to live by.The only good (in terms of morality) part of the bible is the Gospels. The Old Testament is a bunch of old stories of varying accuracy that apply to living in a time vastly, vastly different from the one we live in now, and Paul was a big ol' jerk, and Revelation is The Old Testament without any judgment calls, morality-wise.Considering people were insulting Christians and the Bible quite openly here, I see nothing wrong with jokingly calling them Communists. And the Soviet Union imposed atheism on its citizens, which is the central connection. Conservatism needn't even have anything to do with it. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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