Board 8 > North Carolina Amendment One to pass tonight.

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JDTAY
05/08/12 4:27:00 PM
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SmartMuffin in to tell us how this is a victory for freedom in 3...

2...

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Articuno2001
05/08/12 5:05:00 PM
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http://www.wral.com/news/political/page/10991843/

If anyone feels like tracking it.

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Sceptilesolar
05/08/12 5:07:00 PM
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Dammit, I am ashamed.

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vcharon
05/08/12 5:08:00 PM
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Freedom to suppress minorities is an age old American tradition.

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GenesisTwilight
05/08/12 5:08:00 PM
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I did my part and voted against it. Wake county should be overwhelmingly against it, so who knows what the results for that state will do.

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transience
05/08/12 5:11:00 PM
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my county's at 82% against, heh

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05/08/12 5:13:00 PM
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What's this about?

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:14:00 PM
#8:


Make marriage officially between a man and a woman.

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Articuno2001
05/08/12 5:15:00 PM
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From: TheRock1525 | #008
Make marriage officially between a man and a woman.


It also bans civil unions.

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05/08/12 5:16:00 PM
#10:


TheRock1525 posted...
Make marriage officially between a man and a woman.

Thought so, thanks.

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:16:00 PM
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Articuno2001 posted...
From: TheRock1525 | #008
Make marriage officially between a man and a woman.
It also bans civil unions.


I heard that, too.

They don't even want separate but equal.

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Meow1000
05/08/12 5:16:00 PM
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Oh its just another one of those

Yeah "free" country

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WarThaNemesis2
05/08/12 5:16:00 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
Make relationships officially between a man and a woman.

Fixed.

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05/08/12 5:18:00 PM
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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:19:00 PM
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I'm glad MWC hates the gays, too.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/08/12 5:28:00 PM
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Everyone that debates about the definition of marriage, should have to pronounce it "mawwage" so that they know how silly they sound.

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15_and_counting
05/08/12 5:29:00 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I'm glad MWC hates the gays, too.

Actually no. I so hate their actual mistreatment that I am an Ally in my local PRIDE branch. I am however VEHEMENTLY against them destroying the sanctity of marriage.
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GenesisTwilight
05/08/12 5:30:00 PM
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From: 15_and_counting | #017
sanctity of marriage.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_kardashian

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masterplum
05/08/12 5:31:00 PM
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I don't agree with it, but I do agree that North Carolina has the right to decide what North Carolina feels about it.

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GuessMyUserName
05/08/12 5:32:00 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_spears

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Shoenin_Kakashi
05/08/12 5:33:00 PM
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The South hates gays?

What a surprise!

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15_and_counting
05/08/12 5:34:00 PM
#22:


GenesisTwilight posted...
From: 15_and_counting | #017
sanctity of marriage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_kardashian


And she should be taken out and stoned. 2 wrongs don't make a right here as the old saying goes.
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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:34:00 PM
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GenesisTwilight posted...
From: 15_and_counting | #017
sanctity of marriage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_kardashian


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Anderson

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WarThaNemesis2
05/08/12 5:34:00 PM
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The real comedy is going to be when non-married straight couples get screwed over by this.

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MarvelousGerbil
05/08/12 5:34:00 PM
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From: 15_and_counting | #017
Actually no. I so hate their actual mistreatment that I am an Ally in my local PRIDE branch. I am however VEHEMENTLY against them destroying the sanctity of mawwiage.



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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:34:00 PM
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15_and_counting posted...
GenesisTwilight posted...
From: 15_and_counting | #017
sanctity of marriage.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_kardashian

And she should be taken out and stoned. 2 wrongs don't make a right here as the old saying goes.


Except you're wrong here. Very wrong.

So it's time to stone you to death.

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Ainoxi
05/08/12 5:34:00 PM
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From: masterplum | #019
I don't agree with it, but I do agree that North Carolina has the right to decide what North Carolina feels about it.


Not when how they "feel about it" is taking away the rights of people.

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KingBartz
05/08/12 5:34:00 PM
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From: GenesisTwilight | #018
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_kardashian


Tu quoque

I'm not taking a side here, just pointing out the logical fallacy.

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SubDeity
05/08/12 5:34:00 PM
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So, to the people posting random celebrities, would you support stronger limitations on divorce?

Because I would too! I mean, it's liberals who supported no-fault divorce laws in the first place.

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vcharon
05/08/12 5:36:00 PM
#30:


masterplum posted...
I don't agree with it, but I do agree that North Carolina has the right to decide what North Carolina feels about it.

The majority should never have the right to suppress the minority. That's in some important document no one regards I think.

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:36:00 PM
#31:


No, we're just arguing that the "sanctity of marriage" is pretty much the dumbest argument out there.

I don't care about stronger limitations on divorce.

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:37:00 PM
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And I do support getting rid of no-fault divorce. Cause in a lot of cases, there's someone clearly in the wrong.

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CalvinbalI
05/08/12 5:37:00 PM
#33:


From: SubDeity | #029
So, to the people posting random celebrities, would you support stronger limitations on divorce?

Because I would too! I mean, it's liberals who supported no-fault divorce laws in the first place.


No, I'd support people not making a big deal out of marriage, because it's not a sanctimonious institution.

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GuessMyUserName
05/08/12 5:39:00 PM
#34:


From: SubDeity | Posted: 5/8/2012 8:34:59 PM | #029
So, to the people posting random celebrities, would you support stronger limitations on divorce?


no, why would we? we aren't the ones claiming marriage to sacred

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15_and_counting
05/08/12 5:40:00 PM
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Ainoxi posted...
From: masterplum | #019
I don't agree with it, but I do agree that North Carolina has the right to decide what North Carolina feels about it.
Not when how they "feel about it" is taking away the rights of people.


Shut your ****ing mouth. You want to live in a state that allows that kinda thing, go right ahead. But don't you dare tell other stares what they should or should not do because of your "morals". I HATE gay marriage, but each state has the right to decide their own on it. The people of Maine and other ultra liberal states wanted to legalize it, and they should have been able too. No federal should have any right to tell any state what it can or cant do with it's own people.
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foolm0ron
05/08/12 5:40:00 PM
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Gotta love republicans who say they're for smaller government and then vote for crap like this

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masterplum
05/08/12 5:40:00 PM
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From: Ainoxi | #027
Not when how they "feel about it" is taking away the rights of people.


You could say the same thing about anything if you take that far enough.



The supreme court ruled that you could not yell fire in a crowded room, thus creating precedence that the government is allowed to take away rights of the people in certain instances. The government takes away my right to have money when they tax me. Rights are curtailed all the time.


As I stated, I would have voted no on this, but I respect North Carolina's ability to use its government to decide the issue.

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:42:00 PM
#38:


No federal should have any right to tell any state what it can or cant do with it's own people.

I hope Michigan brings back slavery. We've got a large enough black population.

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CycloRaptor
05/08/12 5:43:00 PM
#39:


you can't use the "sanctity of marriage" argument when this also takes away civil union rights

not that that argument ever made sense, but especially in this instance it makes no sense.

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masterplum
05/08/12 5:43:00 PM
#40:


From: vcharon | #030
The majority should never have the right to suppress the minority. That's in some important document no one regards I think.


Then you are not in favor of democracy, which is how the country is organized.


The Supreme court was created to address this problem, and they could rule that it is unconstitutional. Until that time you have to respect the decision.

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KingBartz
05/08/12 5:43:00 PM
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rock to be modded because mods won't see the context

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masterplum
05/08/12 5:44:00 PM
#42:


From: vcharon | #030
The majority should never have the right to suppress the minority. That's in some important document no one regards I think.


Then you are not in favor of democracy, which is how the country is organized.


The Supreme court was created to address this problem, and they could rule that it is unconstitutional. Until that time you have to respect the decision.

From: foolm0ron | #036
Gotta love republicans who say they're for smaller government and then vote for crap like this



I agree. I think its stupid

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/08/12 5:44:00 PM
#43:


CAN'T STOP THE F***ING PROP B****ES

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vcharon
05/08/12 5:44:00 PM
#44:


Well no, I don't "have to" respect it. Freedom and liberty, all that jazz.

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masterplum
05/08/12 5:45:00 PM
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From: CycloRaptor | #039
you can't use the "sanctity of marriage" argument when this also takes away civil union rights

not that that argument ever made sense, but especially in this instance it makes no sense.


Cyclo your posts have been getting better btw. Keep it up

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KingBartz
05/08/12 5:45:00 PM
#46:


From: masterplum | #040
Then you are not in favor of democracy, which is how the country is organized.


The country was actually organized to be a democratic republic, so that people who were dumb couldn't decide things like this.

Direct democracy is s*** and easily leads to tyranny of the majority

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Achromatic
05/08/12 5:45:00 PM
#47:


From: KingBartz | #046
The country was actually organized to be a democratic republic, so that people who were dumb couldn't decide things like this.

Direct democracy is s*** and easily leads to tyranny of the majority


^ this.

And no one has to respect any decision if it is obvious the Supreme Court is going to smite it.

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:45:00 PM
#48:


Also, people should be less pissed at the North Carolina government and more pissed at the North Carolina population. After all, they're the ones who elected the people who introduced the bill, and then they're the ones that voted for it.

Power of the people indeed.

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foolm0ron
05/08/12 5:45:00 PM
#49:


From: masterplum | #040
Then you are not in favor of democracy, which is how the country is organized.


The US was never supposed to be a full democracy.

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TheRock1525
05/08/12 5:47:00 PM
#50:


KingBartz posted...
From: masterplum | #040
Then you are not in favor of democracy, which is how the country is organized.
The country was actually organized to be a democratic republic, so that people who were dumb couldn't decide things like this.

Direct democracy is s*** and easily leads to tyranny of the majority


Wait, you're telling me that the Greek's direct democracy wasn't a resounding success?

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