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voltch
07/03/12 3:59:00 PM
#1:


I feel like I might as well start now. Gimme a list of all Gundam series and Movies I should watch in chronological order.

I was planning on doing it eventually, but not sure when and where to start so yeah i don't care if the series are bad in fact it might be a good thing since it'll make the good series stick out even more.

So from w/e the starting point is to now, I should watch em in what order?

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Pram_the_Oracle
07/03/12 4:01:00 PM
#2:


The original series.

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Jeff Zero
07/03/12 4:12:00 PM
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Just make sure you eventually watch 00. :)

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edwardsdv
07/03/12 4:13:00 PM
#4:


Well, Only the UC stuff needs to be watched in order.

Its arguable whether watching the side-stuff in order is necessary but for the sake of completeness here goes a complete chronological listing:

All are TV series unless stated otherwise
0079-
Mobile Suit Gundam (TV series or Movie Trilogy, both are good, but cover the same plot)
-Side-stuff
Mobile Suit Gundam 0080 War in the Pocket (OVA)
Mobile Suit Gundam 08th MS Team (OVA)(has a side story one hour movie)
Mobile Suite Gundam IGLOO and IGLOO2 (OVA)(skippable)
Mobile Suite Gundam 0083 (OVA) (has a significantly less interesting compilation movie)
-/end sidestuff
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam (TV Series, dont watch the movies)
Mobile Suit Zeta Zeta Gundam
Char's Counter-Attack
Mobile Suit Unicorn Gundam (still airing, 1 hour OVAs)
*gap*
Mobile Suit F91 Gundam (Movie) (This has a sequel manga series if you like it a lot called Mobile Suit Crossbones Gundam)
*gap*
Mobile Suit Victory Gundam

The other series, in roughly order of release:

Mobile Suit Gundam Wing (with Endless Waltz OVAs and Movies which have a different plot with the same premise)
Mobile Fighter G Gundam
After War Gundam X
Mobile Suit Gundam 00 (2 seasons)
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny
Turn A Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam AGE (currently airing)

I may have missed one or two and I didnt include the SD stuff, but thats roughly it.

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voltch
07/03/12 4:19:00 PM
#5:


Alright Ed, that looks like a good 400eps worth of stuff, should be fine for now.

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GANON1025
07/03/12 4:19:00 PM
#6:


- G Gundam

thats it

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Erugios
07/03/12 4:22:00 PM
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/63166939

Also, I recommend production order over chronological order, personally. Recently watched the entire franchise myself and fell in love with it. I think all of them are at least worth one watch. Beware Destiny though

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Xiahou Shake
07/03/12 4:31:00 PM
#8:


I can't really say I'm the biggest Gundam fan ever, but it'd be a crime to not watch G Gundam. It doesn't really match the rest of the series at all, but it's by far my favorite.
Other than that the only non-UC thing I'd really say is a must-watch is Wing, but I'm probably ignorant of at least one or two others that are probably worth it.

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Jeff Zero
07/03/12 4:32:00 PM
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Wing's pretty good and gets anti-voted worse than FFVII these days for being something "you only suggested because it's mainstream, ass!" but I wouldn't put it up there with a few of the other shows.

It's definitely good though. But man, it drags.

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Xiahou Shake
07/03/12 4:36:00 PM
#10:


Yeah, Wing does have some points that are kinda "okay, let's see something happen."
I don't think I'd do too well to rewatch it after all of these years, but I have fond memories of it, so whatever.

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Jeff Zero
07/03/12 4:38:00 PM
#11:


Yep, sometimes that's what counts the most!

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SupremeZero
07/03/12 4:41:00 PM
#12:


The other series, in roughly order of release:


From: edwardsdv | #003
Mobile Suit Gundam 00 (2 seasons)
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny
Turn A Gundam


... what in the...

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Jeff Zero
07/03/12 5:09:00 PM
#13:


Haha, yeah man, Turn A was 1999. 00 was after SEED and even SEED Destiny.

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voltch
07/03/12 6:11:00 PM
#14:


watched ep 1 of MSG.

Lotso drama, space soap opera, collateral and i guess impressive designs for 1980.

Also dem 1980s anime haircuts. Goku hasn't been on the case yet.

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Erugios
07/03/12 6:13:00 PM
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Xiahou Shake posted...

Other than that the only non-UC thing I'd really say is a must-watch is Wing, but I'm probably ignorant of at least one or two others that are probably worth it.


Can't say I agree with this, to be honest. Wing is good but not great. Episode 30-40 is BRUTAL to get through. Treize is a top tier character, but Zechs is a pretty forgettable Char Clone.

There are definitely better AUs, most notable of which is Turn A (though opinion IS divided on it. I'll be the first to admit that while it is an amazing show, it's not a very good GUNDAM show. Watch it and you'll understand what I mean by that). 00 is pretty interesting as well since it has a very distinct post-9/11 feel to it. And honestly, I've been enjoying AGE a lot.

Really, the only AU I can't recommend is Seed and Seed Destiny. For some reason its the most popular Gundam series in Japan, but man they're pretty bad.

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superange128
07/03/12 6:16:00 PM
#16:


yeah the real order of AU universe is actually..

The other series, in roughly order of release:

Mobile Fighter G Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam Wing (with Endless Waltz OVAs and Movies which have a different plot with the same premise)
After War Gundam X
Turn A Gundam
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Destiny
Mobile Suit Gundam 00 (2 seasons)
Mobile Suit Gundam AGE (currently airing)

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edwardsdv
07/03/12 6:19:00 PM
#17:


From: Erugios | #015
Xiahou Shake posted...

Other than that the only non-UC thing I'd really say is a must-watch is Wing, but I'm probably ignorant of at least one or two others that are probably worth it.


Can't say I agree with this, to be honest. Wing is good but not great. Episode 30-40 is BRUTAL to get through. Treize is a top tier character, but Zechs is a pretty forgettable Char Clone.

There are definitely better AUs, most notable of which is Turn A (though opinion IS divided on it. I'll be the first to admit that while it is an amazing show, it's not a very good GUNDAM show. Watch it and you'll understand what I mean by that). 00 is pretty interesting as well since it has a very distinct post-9/11 feel to it. And honestly, I've been enjoying AGE a lot.

Really, the only AU I can't recommend is Seed and Seed Destiny. For some reason its the most popular Gundam series in Japan, but man they're pretty bad.

Its a modern take on Gundam. In a world where the majority of wars have a major guerilla component, WING has a more relevant structure than earlier gundams in terms of HOW its war is fought.

And yeah AGE has been trending upwards on my Gundam list, currently just behind the original, F91, Unicorn, Zeta, and 0083. Just ahead of Wing.

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superange128
07/03/12 6:21:00 PM
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From: edwardsdv | #017
And yeah AGE has been trending upwards on my Gundam list, currently just behind the original, F91, Unicorn, Zeta, and 0083. Just ahead of Wing.


I've heard mixed things about AGE, what do you like about it? Is the premise/structure similar to any of the series?

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Erugios
07/03/12 6:23:00 PM
#19:


superange128 posted...
From: edwardsdv | #017
And yeah AGE has been trending upwards on my Gundam list, currently just behind the original, F91, Unicorn, Zeta, and 0083. Just ahead of Wing.


I've heard mixed things about AGE, what do you like about it? Is the premise/structure similar to any of the series?


the premise is similar to Crossbones... >_>. Structurally though, it's pretty unique. They've essentially condensed 3 shows down to 1 show, so it feels a bit rushed at times. the 3rd gen has been pretty great though.

As for what I like about it, I'd say my favorite thing is probably Flit, the protagonist from Gen 1. He's developed into a pretty interesting character and they're doing stuff with him that they've never done with a protagonist in the franchise before. Don't want to spoil anything though.

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voltch
07/03/12 6:40:00 PM
#20:


CAN YOU SURVIVE?

Everything big, yet kinda small scale so far. Though by now I've figured that no one should ever want to live in this universe.

Also Earth Fed army uniforms look cool, though they give off a german vibe.

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Erugios
07/03/12 6:53:00 PM
#21:


voltch posted...
CAN YOU SURVIVE?

Everything big, yet kinda small scale so far. Though by now I've figured that no one should ever want to live in this universe.

Also Earth Fed army uniforms look cool, though they give off a german vibe.


Try to keep this in mind: First Gundam isn't so much about the One Year War itself, but about the experiences of the crew of White Base during the War. You rarely see whats going on outside of what the crew is dealing with themselves. Not to mention, the show takes place towards the end of the war anyway, so most of the bigger battles in the war (Operation British, Loum) have already taken place, so they're just alluded to.

And yeah, it'd probably suck to live in Universal Century. It's probably my favorite setting, but boy oh boy did things go wrong for humanity in that timeline.

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Jeff Zero
07/03/12 7:10:00 PM
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From: voltch | #020
CAN YOU SURVIVE?

Everything big, yet kinda small scale so far. Though by now I've figured that no one should ever want to live in this universe.

Also Earth Fed army uniforms look cool, though they give off a german vibe.


I honestly would have vastly preferred you watched the three movies instead of the series; they were made a few years later and that's when Gundam really got hot in Japan. More importantly (by far, in a world where they love SEED) the pacing is much better (although they're still kind of a slog, but anyway, the third is amazing) and they cut out a lot of the weird, silly "Japan, 1979" filler.

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Erugios
07/03/12 7:38:00 PM
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A lot of people recommend that, and I guess I can see some of the validity if you can't get into the show, but I personally loved every second of the original series and thought the pacing was great as is. Plus, if you're watching it dubbed, the movie dub is terrible, while the tv series is excellently dubbed. Brad Swaille and Michael Kopsa make an excellent Amuro and Char.

Plus the TV soundtrack > Movie soundtrack. Not a big fan of the movie arrangements and new songs. That said, Ai Senshi and Encounters are both fantastic songs

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Jeff Zero
07/03/12 7:40:00 PM
#24:


I love Steve Blum as Char, sorry. But Swaille and Kopsa are great as well, of course.

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Erugios
07/03/12 7:41:00 PM
#25:


Steve Blum isn't Char. He's Shaa >_>

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Jeff Zero
07/03/12 7:42:00 PM
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"Shaa!"
*music bump-bump music rrrump-bump music-music-music-music PAUSE!*
"Shaa!"
*repeat*

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Erugios
07/03/12 7:48:00 PM
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True story, i once almost got into a car accident because I got so pumped up playing that song while driving >_>

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Jeff Zero
07/03/12 7:49:00 PM
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The Red Comet very nearly struck again.

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Kinglicious
07/03/12 7:59:00 PM
#29:


eventually get to Gundam 00. 2 seasons and a movie.
if you think gundam is being TOO political, you can do G Gundam. which should be watched anyway.

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Jeff Zero
07/03/12 8:00:00 PM
#30:


00 so good

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superange128
07/03/12 8:43:00 PM
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awww yeah Shaw

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voltch
07/04/12 2:55:00 AM
#32:


Time to get back on this show where nobody looks japanese

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Erugios
07/04/12 3:02:00 AM
#33:


That's because no one on the show IS Japanese (except Mirai).

Amuro is Canadian
Bright is from Hong Kong
Kai...dunno what his deal is
Ryu Jose is some sort of hispanic
Frau is German
Sleggar is American

It had a pretty international cast of characters actually.

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voltch
07/04/12 3:16:00 AM
#34:


Canada saving everyone else one Zaku at a time.

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Jeff Zero
07/04/12 3:26:00 AM
#35:


Kai's like

Martian

IMO

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voltch
07/04/12 4:02:00 AM
#36:


Man, Amuro sure loves to toss his weapons all over the place.

Just how many spare Bazookas have they stocked up on.

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voltch
07/04/12 11:27:00 AM
#37:


Bodycount rising and fast.

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voltch
07/04/12 4:42:00 PM
#38:


Garma would make a good Lancer in the Fate universe

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Erugios
07/04/12 4:44:00 PM
#39:


which episode are you on

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voltch
07/04/12 4:52:00 PM
#40:


cleared ep 10.

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Erugios
07/04/12 4:54:00 PM
#41:


What do you think so far?

The first ten for me are some of my favorite episodes ever. I love how desperate they feel.

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voltch
07/04/12 5:12:00 PM
#42:


Ep 1 was prolly the best.

I've never been a big mecha fan, mostly stuck with Braves stuff because hey cool car/plane turning into bot is cool.

I'm watching this less for the action and more for DRAAAAAAAAAAAMA. Char's providing plenty of good drama so far. Amuro's got melodrama going though.

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Erugios
07/04/12 5:44:00 PM
#43:


I wasn't a big fan of mecha either before I watched Gundam (in september). Like you i was in it for the characters and story (and music. I love First Gundam's soundtrack).

However, you eventually come to appreciate the designss
don't worry about amuro though. He becomes awesoem

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voltch
07/05/12 5:34:00 AM
#44:


Lack of Char is noticeable, though we can't have him losing for like 40 eps straight

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voltch
07/05/12 6:32:00 AM
#45:


Amuro and his FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELINGS

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Jeff Zero
07/05/12 6:36:00 AM
#46:


No one understands
Amuro is so complex
Hate Char, hate Feds, hate

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voltch
07/05/12 6:47:00 AM
#47:


These previews for the next eps do seem a lil spoilery, but w/e.

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EndOfDiscOne
07/05/12 6:55:00 AM
#48:


voltch posted...
These previews for the next eps do seem a lil spoilery, but w/e.


I've noticed this in a lot of anime I've watched, which actually isn't much.

Anyway I don't have much Gundam experience but I've liked what I've seen. I saw most of the original series on Toonami but they cut it off early, and it was probably my least favorite series. I loved G Gundam, Wing, and 08th MS Team. War in the Pocket was pretty good too. I want to get back into Gundam but I don't have much free time. If I do it will probably be 00.

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Jeff Zero
07/05/12 6:57:00 AM
#49:


That happens in a lot Western television, too, really.

00 is great, watch it. :)

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voltch
07/05/12 8:25:00 AM
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Halfway through.

WB Crew can at least cry bout stuff, all their opponents usually just go kaboom.

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