Board 8 > When will game journos stop LYING to gamers?! (Zelda)

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Espeon posted...

3.8% is the number I'm seeing, which is not a small number given the overall size of the population. Furthermore, it seems as though homosexuals make up a larger percentage of the population than say, Jewish people. Would you say Jewish people are abnormal, Smuffin? 'Cause I sure as hell wouldn't say that.

Anything that is present in less than 10% of the population is almost certainly abnormal, by definition.
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So you're saying Jewish people are abnormal then? I just want to be sure that's what you're saying.
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pretty sure the percentage of non-heterosexual people is far, far greater than 3.8%. a lot of people just claim to be hetero because society has decided that heterosexuality is the norm.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

pretty sure the percentage of non-heterosexual people is far, far greater than 3.8%. a lot of people just claim to be hetero because society has decided that heterosexuality is the norm.

I agree, but I've gotta go with pure statistics lest I go down the feels not reals path.
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remember when this topic was about zelda
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Like, what does "normal" mean if not "close to the average?"

When we're talking about people who are in such a small minority that they're basically 2 SDs away from the average, how can you still consider that normal?

Or, to spin the question around back at you, how big of a minority do you have to be until I can call you abnormal? Are furries normal? Are people who are sexually attracted to toasters normal? Is there any possible sexual desire that can be fairly categorized as abnormal? If so, where do you draw the line and how?
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Aecioo posted...

remember when this topic was about zelda

whatever is happening now it is much more entertaining
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ps what's so bad about being called not normal anyway

I'm not normal and it's pretty cool
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SmartMuffin posted...

Like, what does "normal" mean if not "close to the average?"

Uh, you know that by that definition, no one is normal?
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Muffin, stop dodging the question. Do you believe that Jewish people, who make up less than a percent of the world population (yet also have a country homeland where they make up 75% of that country's population), are abnormal?
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

How do we know that the globalists aren't behind the 98?

Well Zelda is a Japanese game right? It makes sense.

Wait when did the topic stop being aboit zelda

Peace___Frog posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

Like, what does "normal" mean if not "close to the average?"

Uh, you know that by that definition, no one is normal?

I'll bet there are quite a lot of people who are within 2 SDs of the norm on basically every possible attribute.
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SmartMuffin posted...

Like, what does "normal" mean if not "close to the average?"

Expected

That's it

If something happens that you don't at all expect, then that's abnormal (even if it's really common, like a bug in a computer program)
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SmartMuffin posted...

I'll bet there are quite a lot of people who are within 2 SDs of the norm on basically every possible attribute.

And yet there is only exactly 1 person in the world with that exact combination of within-2-SD attributes
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Expected

That's it

If something happens that you don't at all expect, then that's abnormal (even if it's really common, like a bug in a computer program)

So when you meet a random person you expect them to be gay?
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I expect they can be gay, absolutely
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who the f*** says journos

"journos" is actually Bulgarian for reviewers
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is heterosexual propaganda harmful to children
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foolm0r0n posted...

trdl23 posted...

We know you're technically correct.

This is why everyone except me should just shut the hell up in arguments

Well this just summoned me to say more inane bulls***.
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Not_an_Owl posted...

is heterosexual propaganda harmful to children

no it's beautiful apparently
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Vlado posted...

It's normal that games with insanely high "journalist" ratings are rated lower by players. Players are not bought and paid for.

That said, a difference of up to 10% is an acceptable margin.

I agree that games with higher journalist ratings are bigger targets to get rated lower by the actual gamers, but that's not the only reason which may have contributed to the poor user ratings for Breath of the Wild.

Now that I think about it, Nintendo has been losing respect among gamers over the last 10 years due to the Wii and Wii U. The Wii might have been Nintendo's biggest selling home console, but the total sales of the console don't reflect the system's actual success. Outside of the Wii's first party games, there were relatively few third party games of note for the system. The Wii U was easily Nintendo's worst home console (excluding the Virtual Boy), with many of Nintendo's biggest fans finding no possible way to defend that thing.

Between the Wii and Wii U, overall respect for Nintendo was at an all-time low and there are more gamers that hate Nintendo today than at any point in Nintendo's history. This may have contributed to the poor user ratings for Breath of the Wild, as people were giving the game a poor rating to show their general dislike for Nintendo even if some of these people don't have a grudge against the professional game reviewers who praised the game.
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FigureOfSpeech posted...

oh and while we're talking about penises, I once made a post where I just spammed penis over and over and got modded for it. I argued about it and the mod upehld it, citing that "saying penis ____ times and nothing else..." was disruptive. I was pleased, because the mod had actually counted how many times it was in the post. I don't remember the number but it was several hundred. I didn't accept the upholding, but if accepting a moderation offered the option to add feedback, I would have said "okay, I concede, and props for counting :P"

anyone else have something like this happen?

This topic was worth something after all.
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MariaTaylor posted...

Vlado posted...

good government

http://i.imgur.com/xqaviaG.gif

Hey, we're discussing hypothetical ideal cases. :) Otherwise, I understand your sentiments.

SmartMuffin posted...

OK, so you agree that abnormal exists, you just draw the line at what, 5 SDs rather than 2?

PWNED.

LusterSoldier posted...

I agree that games with higher journalist ratings are bigger targets to get rated lower by the actual gamers, but that's not the only reason which may have contributed to the poor user ratings for Breath of the Wild.

Now that I think about it, Nintendo has been losing respect among gamers over the last 10 years due to the Wii and Wii U. The Wii might have been Nintendo's biggest selling home console, but the total sales of the console don't reflect the system's actual success. Outside of the Wii's first party games, there were relatively few third party games of note for the system. The Wii U was easily Nintendo's worst home console (excluding the Virtual Boy), with many of Nintendo's biggest fans finding no possible way to defend that thing.

Between the Wii and Wii U, overall respect for Nintendo was at an all-time low and there are more gamers that hate Nintendo today than at any point in Nintendo's history. This may have contributed to the poor user ratings for Breath of the Wild, as people were giving the game a poor rating to show their general dislike for Nintendo even if some of these people don't have a grudge against the professional game reviewers who praised the game.

You're reaching too far, I think. Let's look at another recent Nintendo game, Paper Mario: Colour Splash. We have 76 in critic reviews and 71 in user reviews. That's not a difference of 20+ points like in Zelda's case.
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I legitimately didn't know anybody still said pwned in the entire 21st century
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Vlado posted...

You're reaching too far, I think. Let's look at another recent Nintendo game, Paper Mario: Colour Splash. We have 76 in critic reviews and 71 in user reviews. That's not a difference of 20+ points like in Zelda's case.

That's a totally different situation. It's much easier for both professional reviewers and the actual gamers to agree on which games are actually bad than it is for both groups of people to agree on the amazing games. When a game gets high praise from critics, actual gamers are likely to accuse them of bought out by the developer/publisher, but that would not be the case when the critics are the ones trashing the game.
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Okay, older game, but let's look at Smash for Wii U - 92 vs. 89. For Wind Waker HD, both scores are 90.

It's not due to "Nintendo losing support because of Wii and Wii U" is what I'm saying.
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Vlado posted...

PWNED

What? You know he's 100% saying you're wrong in his argument right? Did you just quote a random post and pretend it agreed with you?
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I was commenting on how he destroyed you. As for whether or not he agrees with me, ask him, not me.
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PWNED

true journalism
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GuessMyUserName posted...

I legitimately didn't know anybody still said pwned in the entire 21st century

look at who said it and think about which century the person lives in >_>
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Vlado posted...

I was commenting on how he destroyed you

No you weren't, because that didn't happen

You were commenting on some crazy dream your brain cooked up. I'm actually very curious about it.
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foolm0r0n posted...

You were commenting on some crazy dream your brain cooked up.

this is called vladoing.
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Dude, just admit you hate gay people
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20QwxUFHxwU&feature=youtu.be&t=5275

wow I can't believe Nintendo paid Ken Levine to pretend to like their game

they have gone too far
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foolm0r0n posted...

No you weren't, because that didn't happen

lmfao, look at this denial.
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Vlado posted...

foolm0r0n posted...

No you weren't, because that didn't happen

lmfao, look at this denial.

what am I looking at? I don't see anything that suggests that your point of view makes any sense as opposed to foolmo's. what exactly do you think happened that warranted the reaction you gave about "destroying" and what-not? could you maybe elaborate on your perspective instead of just demanding everyone share it?
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Vlado posted...

lmfao, look at this denial.

I often deny imaginary takes on reality
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FigureOfSpeech posted...

could you maybe elaborate on your perspective instead of just demanding everyone share it?

Read the post I replied to, and the post it replies to.
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Vlado posted...

FigureOfSpeech posted...

could you maybe elaborate on your perspective instead of just demanding everyone share it?

Read the post I replied to, and the post it replies to.

Read the post that you just replied to.
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Read this post
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Get on the floor
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Everybody WALK THE DINOSAUR
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I f***ing hate that song
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I wonder if Vlado thinks dinosaurs existed like ten thousand years ago.
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vlado's ideas are pretty close to ken ham's at this point.
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TheRock1525 posted...

I wonder if Vlado thinks

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TheRock1525 posted...

I wonder if Vlado thinks dinosaurs existed like ten thousand years ago.

No, their bones were planted by Satan to try and trick us into disbelief of the Gospel

Be not tempted!
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