Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 76: Personal Attack Free Edition 2.0

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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/839207037003313153

Hard to argue with the size-of-bills argument.
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HaRRicH posted...

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/839207037003313153

Hard to argue with the size-of-bills argument.

I wonder if it means he'll admit the inauguration crowd was significantly smaller than Obama's, too.
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HaRRicH posted...

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/839207037003313153

Hard to argue with the size-of-bills argument.

I like how he labels the small one "not government."

https://twitter.com/newday/status/839088737242005506

This is not how money works
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just you wait until applecare isn't just your iphone but your health insurance.
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Wanglicious posted...

just you wait until applecare isn't just your iphone but your health insurance.

http://www.hca.wa.gov/free-or-low-cost-health-care/apple-health-medicaid-coverage

OH GOD IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING

Apple health actually is what our medicaid plan is called here in Washington.

clearly this is how apple will take over microsoft. not through competing in the mobile or PC markets but through competing in the health market.

i mean it's not like anyone would sign up for Windows Care and Microsoft Care would just be shorthand for MicroCare, which is at least truth in advertising.
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Trump: "We have a problem with immigration and keeping our borders safe!"

Also Trump:

http://cnn.it/2n3I8VA

(In spite of the 50+ billion increase to the defense budget, he's cutting the Coast Guard budget. You know, the only military branch that currently defends our borders in a literal sense.)
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https://youtu.be/cDu6v-gPWcQ
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So, I may have missed something, but reading up on the Healthcare Reform bill seems to be missing stuff about selling across state lines (Rubio famously made fun of Trump's plan being "we're gonna get rid of the lines").
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The contradiction of Republican support:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/8/14845708/obamacare-replacement-bill-republican-voter-reaction

Emerson Slain, a nonprofit worker and Republican in Ferriday, Louisiana, says he’s been harmed by Obamacare. But like the protesters in Washington on Tuesday, he’s not sure the replacement plans will improve matters. He also gained coverage under the law that he doesn’t want to see disappear.

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So what about the new replacement plan? Is it any better? “I think it’s Obamacare lite,” he said. He’s particularly critical of the age-based subsidies, which he views as another entitlement program.

On the other hand, Slain doesn’t want Medicaid expansion to end in 2020, as Republicans are now proposing. That’s the part of the law that will directly impact him, and perhaps limit his health care — however imperfect — or take it away.

Medicaid kinda is an entitlement program there.
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HaRRicH posted...

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/839207037003313153

Hard to argue with the size-of-bills argument.

To quote Spicy himself in the above video: "You can't get any clearer in terms of- this is government (pointing to obamacare), and this is not (pointing to republicare)"
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TheRock1525 posted...

The contradiction of Republican support:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/8/14845708/obamacare-replacement-bill-republican-voter-reaction

Emerson Slain, a nonprofit worker and Republican in Ferriday, Louisiana, says he’s been harmed by Obamacare. But like the protesters in Washington on Tuesday, he’s not sure the replacement plans will improve matters. He also gained coverage under the law that he doesn’t want to see disappear.

...

So what about the new replacement plan? Is it any better? “I think it’s Obamacare lite,” he said. He’s particularly critical of the age-based subsidies, which he views as another entitlement program.

On the other hand, Slain doesn’t want Medicaid expansion to end in 2020, as Republicans are now proposing. That’s the part of the law that will directly impact him, and perhaps limit his health care — however imperfect — or take it away.

Medicaid kinda is an entitlement program there.

JDTAY is not a special snowflake.

The amount of trump voters on welfare arguing against government handouts would floor you
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TheRock1525 posted...

The contradiction of Republican support:

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/8/14845708/obamacare-replacement-bill-republican-voter-reaction

Emerson Slain, a nonprofit worker and Republican in Ferriday, Louisiana, says he’s been harmed by Obamacare. But like the protesters in Washington on Tuesday, he’s not sure the replacement plans will improve matters. He also gained coverage under the law that he doesn’t want to see disappear.

...

So what about the new replacement plan? Is it any better? “I think it’s Obamacare lite,” he said. He’s particularly critical of the age-based subsidies, which he views as another entitlement program.

On the other hand, Slain doesn’t want Medicaid expansion to end in 2020, as Republicans are now proposing. That’s the part of the law that will directly impact him, and perhaps limit his health care — however imperfect — or take it away.

Medicaid kinda is an entitlement program there.

yes, but he definitely deserves these entitlements, unlike everyone else, who doesn't.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/hawaii-travel-ban-lawsuit/

Obama's home state coming after the EO.

THE FEUD CONTINUES.
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Watch Trump sign a new EO that replaces Hawaii's status as a state with Cuba.

...I say this jokingly, but somehow he's gonna end up doing something even worse isn't he.
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https://twitter.com/shadihamid/status/839280797483995137

Paul Ryan's harder to defend today than he was in 2012.
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Paul Ryan was defensible in 2012?
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Paul ryan was defennsible for a short period in 2015 and 2016
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I didn't mind him or Romney much compared to my feelings on a lot of other Republican leadership. Time has not helped him much with me though...guess that's the nature of politics.
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Ha, ADP reports 298,000 jobs added in the private sector in February, the best month in almost 3 years, more than 50% above analyst predictions. And, a lot of it was not low-paying service jobs for once. 32k jobs added in manufacturing.
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red sox 777 posted...

Ha, ADP reports 298,000 jobs added in the private sector in February, the best month in almost 3 years, more than 50% above analyst predictions. And, a lot of it was not low-paying service jobs for once. 32k jobs added in manufacturing.

And this is supposed to be due to Trump, I'm assuming?

Due to Trump doing what? He hasn't really done anything that would increase manufacturing jobs.
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Who knows why? All we know is that it happened.
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Haven't jobs been trending up for a while already?
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My Immortal posted...

Haven't jobs been trending up for a while already?

Yeah. It was up in January. And November.

Actually, the month of most clear fallout from the election, December, is the month that was actually down.
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They've been up every month for since early 2010, but this is the biggest plus month in a long time. And, it's a bit unusual when the unemployment rate is supposedly so low already - it's really hard to generate this kind of job growth when the unemployment rate is 4.8% (supposedly).
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SupremeZero posted...

red sox 777 posted...

Ha, ADP reports 298,000 jobs added in the private sector in February, the best month in almost 3 years, more than 50% above analyst predictions. And, a lot of it was not low-paying service jobs for once. 32k jobs added in manufacturing.

And this is supposed to be due to Trump, I'm assuming?

Due to Trump doing what? He hasn't really done anything that would increase manufacturing jobs.

Lol
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red sox 777 posted...

They've been up every month for since early 2010, but this is the biggest plus month in a long time. And, it's a bit unusual when the unemployment rate is supposedly so low already - it's really hard to generate this kind of job growth when the unemployment rate is 4.8% (supposedly).

A quarter of a million is pretty easily within grasp of what's still a 15 million pool of unemployed.
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But we never get to 0 unemployment even in the best boom periods. 4% is about as low as it ever gets.
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red sox 777 posted...

But we never get to 0 unemployment even in the best boom periods. 4% is about as low as it ever gets.

A 3 million people difference from 4.8%.

In 2010, the unemployment rate was 9.something or other. Which is 28 million.

We've added 13 million jobs since 2010, a quarter of a million is a significant drop in the bucket, but still a drop.

If it keeps growing that way for, like, this entire year, then you can be confused, but this is just the same deal.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/05/business/economy/jobs-report-unemployment-wages.html?_r=0

My goodness, it's almost like the same thing happened last year! I wonder why.
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300,000 jobs added and the actual people who own these businesses credit Trump for it.

This is what people care about, not trans bathrooms or Russian conspiracy theories. The media is also totally silent on this. Trump, as usual, was right on all fronts.
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But we've got 95 million people who need jobs!
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for someone who doesn't care about "trans bathrooms", ulti sure brings them up a lot
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maybe he means train bathrooms

it's always hard to take a piss while on them
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that's probably it
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TheRock1525 posted...

But we've got 95 million people who need jobs!

It's true but you have to start somewhere!

Finally listening to Alex Jones from yesterday where he's talking about Vault 7. He has legitimately been talking about most of what's in there for years, claiming really high up sources in intelligence. I honestly believe him because there's no way the guy knew all this without knowing an insider or two.
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Spotting the guy with barely hidden dick issues is fun. It's like Internet Where's Waldo
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At least Where's Waldo is slightly difficult...
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After being asked over 15 times from 4+ users, Ulti has still never once responded to the question of "what is a Trans bathroom", so I still don't know what the f*** he's talking about. Nobody is talking about "Trans bathrooms" but him.
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Trump posting his strongest "strongly disapprove" rating on Rasmussen in his young presidency with 42% strongly disapproving. Also the first time in his presidency his total disapproval rating was higher than his approval rating.
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HaRRicH posted...

I didn't mind him or Romney much compared to my feelings on a lot of other Republican leadership. Time has not helped him much with me though...guess that's the nature of politics.

ryan is a guy i would put squarely in "worse than pence."
pence i disagree with ideologically but can somewhat understand under the lens of religion and just outright hating some groups. i do think he at the very least means well otherwise.
ryan is a guy i disagree with ideologically and fear because he's got enough knowledge and power to ruin millions and would see it as something necessary for the greater good. i don't think he means well at all either, it's just ruthless calculation that may be wrong but f*** it.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Trump posting his strongest "strongly disapprove" rating on Rasmussen in his young presidency with 42% strongly disapproving. Also the first time in his presidency his total disapproval rating was higher than his approval rating.

It's almost like people care about Russia!
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Don't think it's Russia cause Rasmussen polls generally say more people don't care.

Do think it's the healthcare bill. It's the worst of both worlds because the people who hate entitlements hate a new entitlement plan and the people who actually need medicaid don't want the program rolled back.

Being the party of "no compromise" for the past 8 years is blowing up in their face now that they need massive compromise to get a bill passed.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/breitbart-establishment-trump-this-is-war-obamacare-2017-3

Breitbart might be...more childish than Trump?

https://twitter.com/fahrenthold/status/839586169658748928
Never mind
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The youngest son of U.S. Sen. Tim Kaine, Hillary Clinton's 2016 running mate, was one of six people arrested Saturday after counter-protesters disrupted a rally in support of President Donald Trump at the Minnesota State Capitol.

https://www.facebook.com/cnninternational/videos/10155077731039641/

Great job Hillary and Tim! Maybe Hillary would have won if she picked Bernie as her running mate instead of crazy Tim!
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Man I'm so tired

Former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman accepts nomination of Russia ambassadorship

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/former-utah-gov-jon-huntsman-accepts-nomination-russia-002106247--abc-news-topstories.html

This is a poor choice. He doesn't even speak Russian.

http://fox13now.com/2017/03/01/jon-huntsman-jr-in-talks-to-serve-as-us-ambassador-to-russia/
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LapisLazuli posted...

After being asked over 15 times from 4+ users, Ulti has still never once responded to the question of "what is a Trans bathroom", so I still don't know what the f*** he's talking about. Nobody is talking about "Trans bathrooms" but him.

It's almost like I was busy all day today instead of sitting around addicted to a computer screen. Imagine that!
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