Poll of the Day > Hammer DOWN!!! (Overwatch Discussion topic)

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The tank meta is over, the Omnic Crisis meta was short-lived, I hope you're all ready for the barrier meta!
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GanonsSpirit posted...

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AllstarSniper32 posted...

I would like if Overwatch came out with skins as frequently as Smite. Smite comes out with 6-10 skins a month. They're not all "premium" skins, a lot of times they're just recolors. But even coming out with more recolors should be a simple thing that Blizzard can do. The recolors are sometimes recolors of the higher tier skins as well.

The big difference is that skins are much easier to obtain in Overwatch. I already have legendary skins for most of the characters I play regularly, so more recolors isn't going to entice me at all.
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GanonsSpirit posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

I would like if Overwatch came out with skins as frequently as Smite. Smite comes out with 6-10 skins a month. They're not all "premium" skins, a lot of times they're just recolors. But even coming out with more recolors should be a simple thing that Blizzard can do. The recolors are sometimes recolors of the higher tier skins as well.

The big difference is that skins are much easier to obtain in Overwatch. I already have legendary skins for most of the characters I play regularly, so more recolors isn't going to entice me at all.

Then they can just come up with a way to make them a bit harder to get. Make some of them only obtainable through boxes or something. And of course I know that recolors aren't going to entice everyone, but there's people out there who like recolors. That can be both recolors of the default skin and recolors of the rare and legendary skins.
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The first seasonal event the held last year, the Summer Games, none of those items could be bought, you had to get them from boxes. People didn't like that, so they made event items purchasable with coins after that.
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papercup posted...

The first seasonal event the held last year, the Summer Games, none of those items could be bought, you had to get them from boxes. People didn't like that,

I mean, I don't like it either. But it's how it should be done. If people had to spend money on skins (at least the rare or legendary ones) then that'd make it so that more skins are made. Same goes with things like sprays or whatever other aesthetic items they have.
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This is my new favorite thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlW2XoSaPwM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znEHH68unzA

Orisa will be out on live next week!
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

papercup posted...

The first seasonal event the held last year, the Summer Games, none of those items could be bought, you had to get them from boxes. People didn't like that,

I mean, I don't like it either. But it's how it should be done. If people had to spend money on skins (at least the rare or legendary ones) then that'd make it so that more skins are made. Same goes with things like sprays or whatever other aesthetic items they have.

If they did that with Sprays I honestly wouldn't care, I hate most of the sprays, and the very fact they take up a majority of the stuff I get from a Loot Box annoys the hell out of me, I'd rather get Emotes, Victory Poses, Intro's, and Skins, I'd even take voice lines over Sprays, But that's just me....
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Kaguya_Kimimaro posted...

If they did that with Sprays I honestly wouldn't care, I hate most of the sprays, and the very fact they take up a majority of the stuff I get from a Loot Box annoys the hell out of me, I'd rather get Emotes, Victory Poses, Intro's, and Skins, I'd even take voice lines over Sprays, But that's just me....

I think...you might have missed a point in there somewhere.
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

Kaguya_Kimimaro posted...

If they did that with Sprays I honestly wouldn't care, I hate most of the sprays, and the very fact they take up a majority of the stuff I get from a Loot Box annoys the hell out of me, I'd rather get Emotes, Victory Poses, Intro's, and Skins, I'd even take voice lines over Sprays, But that's just me....

I think...you might have missed a point in there somewhere.

Oh no I got the point of what you said, I was just referring to the idea going for Sprays and the like as well, Since the context was, more skins would be made if they were actually bought, then there was the line of "Same goes with things like sprays or whatever other aesthetic items they have.". And thus, I was just mentioning that I would hate to have that idea go for Sprays as well, since I really don't like them, but again, that'd just be me.
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I think it would be cool if they added additional loot that is colors you can switch to for legendary skins you own. Kinda like how chromas work in LoL, if you guys have seen that. For example, you would open up a lootbox and get "Blue Sunyatta Color" or "Green Captain Amari Color". It would give us more customization on popular skins without Blizzard having to do to much work. I don't think it would happen though, since the common skins are just recolors and they're all separate.

papercup posted...

The tank meta is over

Been out of the loop. Does that mean Reinhardt isn't slowing down every single game on both teams any more?
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Lightning Bolt posted...

papercup posted...

The tank meta is over

Been out of the loop. Does that mean Reinhardt isn't slowing down every single game on both teams any more?

No, it means games aren't going to be both teams consisting of Reinhardt, D.Va, Zarya, Roadhog and Ana, it means games are going to be both teams consisting of Reinhardt, Orisa, Winston and Sombra.
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I know it's No Limits, and I have no one but myself to blame for playing such a headache but, I swear NL makes me reawaken my hatred for Mei whenever I run into games with multiple Mei's, even Bastion's +35% damage reduction can't survive her.....

On the other hand, 20 freaking kills and I think only 2 deaths with Symmetra on Temple of Anubis in Quickplay, even with the enemy team having I think 2 tanks, one being Winston, on their team, plus taking the victory AND PotG, GOD I felt so good right there....
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Kaguya_Kimimaro posted...

even Bastion's +35% damage reduction can't survive her.....

Bastion's Ironclad now only reduces 20% damage
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deoxxys posted...

Kaguya_Kimimaro posted...

even Bastion's +35% damage reduction can't survive her.....

Bastion's Ironclad now only reduces 20% damage

Yeah but the Console side doesn't have that yet I believe, since I'm sure it's gonna be "bundled" in with the Orisa patch.
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The last few days I've been in games mostly featuring Winston wrecking ass (Winston being either me or some douche on the other team). I grow more and more uneasy about this coming Winston buff.

Barriers are so powerful in this game. I'm not sure I like the idea of introducing more "anchor tanks" with barriers. You're eventually gonna wind up with 6 barriers per team,
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^more use for bastion and sombra
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Less use for me picking Lucio anymore. I swear he gets hurt by every buff that's been put out lately.

I support hero bans that only affect my team.

So I can stop people from playing Hanzo on attack.
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Papercup when's the last time you ran attack Hanzo

It's sad that you never do it anymore u less you're in a bad mood
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Actually, I did the other day. And the Lucio on our team threw a fit and just kept jumping off the side and dying over and over instead of helping. Despite the fact we weren't doing bad.
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I'm a bad Sniper.
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Lúcio

Sonic Amplifier
Projectile speed increased from 40 to 50
Alternate fire now considers vertical orientation when knocking targets back
Crossfade
Song's area-of-effect radius decreased from 30 meters to 10 meters
A temporary in-game visual has been added to illustrate this radius (it is only visible to Lúcio and his teammates)
Heal Song
Healing-per-second has been increased by 50% (also applies to Lúcio's Amp It Up ability)
Sound Barrier
Radius decreased from 30 meters to 20 meters
Wall Ride
Movement speed increased by 30% when wall riding
Lúcio now receives a burst of speed when leaping off a wall


https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20635660#patchnotes
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what's the point of playing lucio if you have to be so close to teammates that you might as well be picking mercy....

The Reason to pick Lucio was for his AOE Effects and the fact that you didn't need to pick who to heal it just happened made it so you could have A Primary Healer and Lucio Acting as the secondary healer topping everyone off

but now? Lucio has to actually go out and pick his healing targets....which defeats the purpose of being AN AOE Effect
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Lucio isn't played for his healing, he's played for his speed.
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Blighboy posted...

Lucio isn't played for his healing, he's played for his speed.

and now less people will get speed unless everyone just crowds around the lucio but at that point everyone's just asking to be picked off



Lucio Shouldn't be deep in the combat zone it defeats his whole purpose....he's suppose to be in the back not upfront
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NightMareBunny posted...

and now less people will get speed unless everyone just crowds around the lucio but at that point everyone's just asking to be picked off

This was literally the meta for much of the first season, it was called deathball.

NightMareBunny posted...

Lucio Shouldn't be deep in the combat zone it defeats his whole purpose....he's suppose to be in the back not upfront

Lucio is one of the most survivable characters in the game, there's a reason he tends to have so much objective time.
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deoxxys posted...

Wall Ride
Movement speed increased by 30% when wall riding
Lúcio now receives a burst of speed when leaping off a wall

This is a huge buff. Maybe not the little bit of damage I was hoping for but it means more survivability.

NightMareBunny posted...

Lucio Shouldn't be deep in the combat zone it defeats his whole purpose....he's suppose to be in the back not upfront

Not really. He's a good disrupter/distraction even up front, and this promotes more team play. However, I doubt teams in solo queue are going to group up anyway so it might end up being a nerf to healing. In organized games it's a buff for sure.

and all this will do is have people scream into my ears about how much i suck as lucio because they aren't getting the heals....

"Yeah Maybe If you were within the 10 meters I Could Heal you but I'm not going to throw myself into the fire for one idiot who doesn't understand my limitations i won't be able to heal everyone who screams at me for health so they gotta get used to it"
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Played 4 matches of PTR "comp" and Id have to say, Lucio is REALLY good now, like they might even nerf him.
Like for one, he's really fun to play and when he amps it up, hes like a mercy/ana but does that for everyone within his radius. So hes really strong in death ball comps. And the speed boosts from wall running really helps his survivability. I was also changing from speed boost to heal A LOT more often since I was trying to reach a player to heal (mind you no outliars to the group). The increase in projectile speed was also nicer, I can pick people a lot more quickly or contribute to it.
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Considering how his healing has increased and he can speed on walls he'll be even harder to kill than he is right now, and he's one of the most difficult to kill as is.
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Those Lucio changes are nuts. o_O Also new flank route on Eichenwalde, yes! That first choke won't be a total fucking nightmare to attack now.
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Lost 3 of my 4 placements so far
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Didn't get a chance to play the new Lucio, but I'm liking the changes to Eichenwalde, Mei isn't as much of a must pick anymore, it's actually possible to break through the first choke now.
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Just had a comp match where half the enemy team ragequit after we pushed the payload all the way to the end.
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I think Lucio's a great character as is, but I prefer Zenyatta
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Blighboy posted...

Lost 3 of my 4 placements so far

Don't worry, placements doesn't matter anyway.
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jedirood posted...

I think Lucio's a great character as is, but I prefer Zenyatta

If my team sucks, I prefer Zenyatta as well. Especially if I sound barrier and amp up the speed boost and no one goes through the chokepoint but me; that's when I switch.

I haven't played Overwatch yet but the topic title reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29kXPzFUdwY
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Ultima_Dragoon posted...

jedirood posted...

I think Lucio's a great character as is, but I prefer Zenyatta

If my team sucks, I prefer Zenyatta as well. Especially if I sound barrier and amp up the speed boost and no one goes through the chokepoint but me; that's when I switch.

If my team are idiots, I'll just switch to Offense. I'm a good Pharah and Soldier: 76
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what's the point of making draws damn near impossible when that just makes it more likely that your teammates will be screaming at you for failures more often since a tie is less likely with the changes they are making

the planets have to align to do that

not every match is gonna be a victory and given the average team on comp victories aren't guaranteed so this just means losses are going to happen far more often and people will get salty quickly
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quig and I are going to play Overwatch right now, shoot me a message if you want to join us!!

@quigonzel
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quig, I don't even know who you are on battlenet....

allstar32#1764

that's me.
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I was already in bed when you guys started or I would have joined you.
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http://imgur.com/a/ebd7X
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NightMareBunny posted...

what's the point of making draws damn near impossible when that just makes it more likely that your teammates will be screaming at you for failures more often since a tie is less likely with the changes they are making

the planets have to align to do that

not every match is gonna be a victory and given the average team on comp victories aren't guaranteed so this just means losses are going to happen far more often and people will get salty quickly

Getting draws is terrible, and I support less of them happening.
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