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Lopen
03/29/17 9:38:04 AM
#251:


And now... a Fandango triple post. Something I thought I'd never do.

Forgetting whether Fandango as a character was played right in response to it, WWE accelerated its death a ton by acknowledging it. HERP A DERP LOOK AT THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA!!!

If they'd just let it exist-- maybe use camerawork during his entrance to cut to audience doing it as a subtle nod to it, people would've done it longer. WWE instead was basically saying "yes please keep doing this this awesome!" which as you might expect had the exact opposite effect.

If WWE really wants to kill "What?" that would be the perfect way to do it. Do a bunch of social media segments about it. Maybe have the tron display "WHAT?" when the audience would normally do it. Basically just try to encourage it as best you can-- would kill it dead.
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 9:41:32 AM
#252:


voltch, I don't feel any hype for Takeover
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voltch
03/29/17 9:43:56 AM
#253:


Thats surprising, given that Brooklyn and Dallas made it a point to beat Summerslam and Mania.

This event taking place in practically their backyard, should have been an amazing homecoming where the NXT developped guys like Nakamura and Asuka put on the MOTYCs NXT is known for.
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 9:47:00 AM
#254:


I think it's the inevitability

Nakamura is going to lose and then probably be called up
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voltch
03/29/17 9:49:11 AM
#255:


Isn't he being advertised for the UK tour?

Who is expected to be the 2017-2018 headliner with Roode?

Ohno?
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 10:14:02 AM
#256:


Adam Cole maybe <_<
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TheRock1525
03/29/17 10:16:57 AM
#257:


I mean last year's Takeover featured American Alpha vs The Revival, Nakamura vs Zayn, Balor vs Joe, and Asuka vs Bayley.

Kinda hard to top that lineup. Especially when only four matches are announced and of them is Andrade "Cien" Almas vs. Aleister Black (Tommy End).
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voltch
03/29/17 10:17:03 AM
#258:


Wait, why would Cole jump Strong in the queue?

I get Hojo and Shirai will likely get pushes out of the gate ahead of Liv Morgan and Billie Kay, but on the men's side, most of these guys are of equal talent.
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voltch
03/29/17 10:18:06 AM
#259:


Yeah, sucks that NXT exposed La Sombra as a mediocre worker.

People like me actually thought he was one of the best in the world at one point. But come to NXT and you can see that Tye Dillinger is just better.
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 10:28:56 AM
#260:


voltch posted...
Wait, why would Cole jump Strong in the queue?


Same way he jumped Strong in the indies
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NBIceman
03/29/17 10:38:02 AM
#261:


Jakyl25 posted...
Adam Cole maybe <_<

Good Lord, I can conceive of few things more boring in wrestling than a potential Roode/Cole feud.
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VeryInsane
03/29/17 10:44:49 AM
#262:


I mean they have a lot of time between Orlando and Brooklyn to reload and find one

I only really see Cole or Strong fighting Roode during the next Takeover atm but who knows it could be No Way Jose for a one off match >_>
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 10:56:19 AM
#263:


NBIceman posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Adam Cole maybe <_<

Good Lord, I can conceive of few things more boring in wrestling than a potential Roode/Cole feud.


Full Sail doesn't care. They can chant BAY-BAY to show how knowledgeable they are

(Also Roode would be face and Cole would be heel)
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 10:58:11 AM
#264:


Although hey, they might surprise me and let Cole go straight to the cruiserweights.

A ton of interesting, fresh matches for him there.
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scarletspeed7
03/29/17 10:58:34 AM
#265:


NBIceman posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Adam Cole maybe <_<

Good Lord, I can conceive of few things more boring in wrestling than a potential Roode/Cole feud.

And yet, here's the Wrestlemania card.
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NBIceman
03/29/17 10:59:53 AM
#266:


Jakyl25 posted...
NBIceman posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Adam Cole maybe <_<

Good Lord, I can conceive of few things more boring in wrestling than a potential Roode/Cole feud.


Full Sail doesn't care. They can chant BAY-BAY to show how knowledgeable they are

(Also Roode would be face and Cole would be heel)

That would help Cole some, I guess, but a lot of his effective heel work comes from PWG where he has total free reign.

And there's not a force on Earth that can make Roode interesting.
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 11:00:30 AM
#267:


https://twitter.com/mookieghana/status/847132821504360448

Good Miz stats
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voltch
03/29/17 11:03:35 AM
#268:


I guess the logical big match they have up their sleeve, is Io Shirai coming to NXT to avenge her sister getting dominated in one of those softcore fetish Cop videos Kana did.

But wouldn't Kyle O'Reilly be the guy you push hardest? Towards the end of their ROH runs, Kyle was the one who did better in NJPW and he got the 30min match formula down for main event better than Cole did.

How do we rank the Full Sail crowd among Best Wrestling Crowds anyway?

I don't like em myself, but in general, people have a positive view of them I think.
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 11:03:51 AM
#269:


NBIceman posted...
And there's not a force on Earth that can make Roode interesting.


What about this t-shirt
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 11:04:47 AM
#270:


Kyle should 100% go to the Cruiserweight division
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Lopen
03/29/17 11:05:47 AM
#271:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/mookieghana/status/847132821504360448

Good Miz stats


Not a coincidence or just facing better competition! Some managers really enhance the act and I feel like Maryse is one of em.

I mean it's not all Maryse but yeah.
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voltch
03/29/17 11:06:19 AM
#272:


He ended his indie career moving up in weight though.

Though I assume maybe they're making some placeholder moves to get NXT ready for Kenny Omega's arrival next year?
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 11:10:57 AM
#273:


They'll save Omega for star power in their inevitable Japanese territory
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voltch
03/29/17 11:12:53 AM
#274:


I don't even know how the logistics of a weekly Japanese wrestling show will work.

Japan is such a fad based country, once the freshness of their thing works, it'll go down the drain.

But hey, if you can reach the highs of PRIDE for a couple of years, I guess its worth it?
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 11:14:47 AM
#275:


So now Jarrett is executive producer of World of Sport Wrestling?

How can one man run three companies??

Jeez, this TNA-CRASH-NOAH-WOS international alliance is a real barn burner
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NBIceman
03/29/17 11:15:26 AM
#276:


The real mistake being made here is assuming that Omega is really going to WWE anytime soon.
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 11:16:01 AM
#277:


Who can possibly resist the allure of a selfie with Triple H
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voltch
03/29/17 11:18:10 AM
#278:


Triple H selife AND Cena putting you on his instagram?

GG Japan, now submit to the GWM.
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NBIceman
03/29/17 11:20:23 AM
#279:


We'll see what happens but I want you all to remember this day when I'm proven right.
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voltch
03/29/17 11:25:14 AM
#280:


I'm betting than within the next 3 years.

WWE will have bought Arena Mexico during their ventures into that market and bought the tape libraries for NOAH, AJPW and AJW.

They'll also have acquired at least 8 current upper midcard or higher NJPW active guys and since the Lucha Underground contracts will be up by then, they'll also make a sweep of that talent.
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NBIceman
03/29/17 11:27:18 AM
#281:


voltch posted...
I'm betting than within the next 3 years.

WWE will have bought Arena Mexico during their ventures into that market and bought the tape libraries for NOAH, AJPW and AJW.

They'll also have acquired at least 8 current upper midcard or higher NJPW active guys and since the Lucha Underground contracts will be up by then, they'll also make a sweep of that talent.

Huh.
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Jakyl25
03/29/17 11:28:30 AM
#282:


The indie scene will just be endless Galloway vs Cody matches
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Lopen
03/29/17 11:29:59 AM
#283:


I'm always a bit confused what proportion of voltch's posts in these topics these days are his genuine thoughts and what proportion are his "WWE COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION" character.
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voltch
03/29/17 11:31:03 AM
#284:


I can totally see a future, where every indie in america has to apply for a Wrestling promotion license from WWE.

They all become some kind of WWE franchise like McDonalds.
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voltch
03/29/17 11:36:01 AM
#285:


Well, you can't deny that I've been mostly right in my predictions so far.

I don't have to like it, but I can see how aggressive their moves have been in certain markets. So just by looking at how you'd expand as ruthlessly as possible, the moves we've seen make sense.

The only setback they've had, was the cruiserweight classic not landing them Ibushi, Ricochet and ZSJ. TJ Perkins is a nice get, but he's not as hot on the circuit as the other three. He's more famous now, but those guys have a higher ceiling.

Like it makes perfect sense, as to why WWE would want King Cuerno, Pentagon Jr and Fenix. Those guys would give them a massive edge on the mexican front.
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NBIceman
03/29/17 11:38:38 AM
#286:


What predictions have you gotten right, exactly?
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Lopen
03/29/17 11:39:40 AM
#287:


I mean I'm not saying it's all nonsense but I'm sure you don't fully believe a lot of it, particularly when you get into Triple H and Cena and Stephanie ass kissing tangents.

That's why it's hard to gauge which parts are actual predictions and which parts are HAIL WWE KING. I don't actually want to know though I'm just sorta talking to myself.
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voltch
03/29/17 12:02:12 PM
#288:


I was very quick on the decline of ROH.

ROH has always been a stepping stone sure, but in the last few years the talent grabbing has accelerated to the point that they are on their knees. Prior, they just took the top star and let ROH build a new hot guy they could grab later on.

I called Io Shirai going to WWE ages ago, Hojo was less sure, since she had potential to become a model in Japan with her talent agency. Io was a dead cert. Also called Evie to NXT.

Tozawa to WWE got that one right, they got Uhaa Nation and PAC so Dragon Gate being a pool ready for raiding made that move a certainty. Tozawa was the guy who most wanted to go to WWE, CIMA tried and failed, but he's too old. Tozawa was buddies with all the gaijins, move was always happening.


I won't claim credit for any of the big PWG BoLa guys like Rich Swann, because everyone knows Regal raids whoever does well at BoLa.
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muddersmilk
03/29/17 12:52:52 PM
#289:


At least CHIKARA will probably survive on virtue of so many of there guys are to small and/or to weird for WWE to pay attention.

And WWE still doesn't care to raid comedy wrestlers.
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ffmasterjose
03/29/17 1:59:35 PM
#290:


I'm also not really super hyped for Takeover, and there's only a few matches at 'Mania I'm interested in. I took that day off work months ago because I wanted to watch it live, but now I'm content with catching a replay >_>
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ShatteredElysium
03/29/17 2:02:24 PM
#291:


Mania is taking place literally 5 minutes down the road from my house and I could not be less hyped for it.

Which brings me to another point. Is anyone physically going? And do you want to meet up for a drink or something if so? I'm actually off work until Monday now so could meet up with anyone at pretty much any time. I don't have Mania tickets so wouldn't be able to meet inside the arena.
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Hardcore_Adult
03/29/17 2:16:16 PM
#292:


Maybe this Year it'll be another WM31 (s*** build, Actually a decent event)

But My hopes aren't that high.
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scarletspeed7
03/29/17 2:20:40 PM
#293:


Who's more excited for New Japan on Tuesday night than Mania on Sunday?
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Strife2
03/29/17 2:21:22 PM
#294:


They have so much more talent to work with this year. Despite that, they substituted a Rock segment with a rap concert and Al Roker. BLARGH!
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Hardcore_Adult
03/29/17 2:23:42 PM
#295:


They need shooting not just for Pitbull, Not just for FloRida but BOTH in the SAME f***ing venue!

Ah, well.

I'm skipping it.
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ffmasterjose
03/29/17 2:26:15 PM
#296:


You forgot Lunchmoney Lewis and Stephen Marley!

Whoever the f*** they are. I've also never heard of the chick they got singing the National Anthem
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Hardcore_Adult
03/29/17 2:31:05 PM
#297:


^ Son of Bob Marley. DK;DC about this Lunchmoney guy.
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SmartMuffin
03/29/17 2:58:17 PM
#298:


A Bob Marley connection seems SUPER weird for WM. Kofi isn't even Jamaican anymore!
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ffmasterjose
03/29/17 3:46:28 PM
#299:


Will we get a squash match this year?
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Tom Bombadil
03/29/17 3:54:41 PM
#300:


Goldberg/Lesnar
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