Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 400: The Ultimate Shill Ride

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Jakyl25 posted...

WM 17 Doink isn't dead. Wasn't he Steve Lombardi that night?

No, he was Kimchee that night. Borne was Doink.
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Really? And they made him be a babyface? BOOOOOOOOO
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Reigns on the idea of turning heel, stolen from Reddit, and originally from Talk is Jericho

"The thing is, if I turn heel, what am I gonna become? Everything that's been done? Why not just be me? No one's ever been like me. This is uncharted territory. It can be anything I want it to be. So why put myself on one side of it? Why not just dabble? Why not have the full range? Do whatever I want? That's how I feel. I'm the one writing this at this point now. We're in the position we can do anything we want as long they make noise. As long as they're coming, as long as they're making noise. Have fun, man! Boo the s*** out of me! If it's making you cooler with this dude and that dude next to you and y'all are having a great night? Please, say all you want to me. I'm a grown man. You're not gonna hurt my feelings. My wife is not gonna think any differently of me."

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No one's ever been like him? He's gotta be kidding, right?
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PWB saying JR is back to call Brock and Goldberg
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ScareChan posted...

PWB saying JR is back to call Brock and Goldberg

Does this mean it goes longer than 2 minutes
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eaedwards6400 posted...

ScareChan posted...

PWB saying JR is back to call Brock and Goldberg

Does this mean it goes longer than 2 minutes

My first thought too
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I think it's actually pretty awesome that they're giving this to JR. It's interesting to see how much he wants to bury himself in his work right now. Sad, but understandable. And impressive in a weird way.
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VeryInsane posted...

The match I'm most excited for might actually be Cena/Nikki vs. Miz/Maryse

I mean the build's actually pretty good but it shows how poor the rest of the card is

Unironically, me too.

I legit think the proposal is not going to be topped on this show
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Eddv posted...

I legit think the proposal is not going to be topped on this show

Wait for Roman to interrupt it and marry Nikki instead.
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We're in the position we can do anything we want as long they make noise. As long as they're coming, as long as they're making noise.

This is literally everything that is wrong with the industry right now. In kayfabe it started with Cena but I think Cena actually is a pretty effective face all things considered. Especially compared to this f***ing dumbass.
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I realized that the only way to effect change is to stop watching WWE products with Roman. So I don't watch Raw anymore.
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SmartMuffin posted...

We're in the position we can do anything we want as long they make noise. As long as they're coming, as long as they're making noise.

This is literally everything that is wrong with the industry right now. In kayfabe it started with Cena but I think Cena actually is a pretty effective face all things considered. Especially compared to this f***ing dumbass.

And the thing is, they AREN'T coming like they used to.

The business is more profitable than it was 10 years ago, but that's because they've found more ways to milk diehards. Attendance is down across the board except for WM itself
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I don't know if anyone else watched the HoF, but I'll never not mark out for Angle's theme and the "You Suck" chants.

That, along with Edge's theme and Orton's old theme are my childhood.
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And yeah, ratings are down. Attendance is down. Critical acclaim is down. Total eyeballs on the major PPVs are down. WTF is this "as long as they're coming" nonsense?
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Jakyl25 posted...

SmartMuffin posted...

We're in the position we can do anything we want as long they make noise. As long as they're coming, as long as they're making noise.

This is literally everything that is wrong with the industry right now. In kayfabe it started with Cena but I think Cena actually is a pretty effective face all things considered. Especially compared to this f***ing dumbass.

And the thing is, they AREN'T coming like they used to.

The business is more profitable than it was 10 years ago, but that's because they've found more ways to milk diehards. Attendance is down across the board except for WM itself

See, this is why I don't get why they just don't embrace the diehard fans. Give them what they want, because they're always there and they're happy and they won't think your company is a joke because your wannabe top face Roman Reigns isn't laughably booed at all the big events the casuals watch. I promise you when I go to my Wrestlemania party Sunday that all of the casuals there are going to be ripping on Roman Reigns because he's a god damn joke as WWE's failed pet project.

Good for Roman that he thinks it's cool if everyone just makes noise when he's around. But it's also the reason why he comes across as a douche since he keeps expressing this opinion of "lol they'll come back anyway" except so many of them have left and keep leaving. The fans are NEVER going to stop booing Reigns until he goes heel first! It's so simple! And he'll give a huge heel promo like he did last week and after he retires Undertaker he'll give another totally heel promo like "lol I said it was my yard it's my yard I retired the Deadman." And then they'll keep pitting him against heels that people like more than him.

I dunno. This company just confounds me when it comes to Reigns.
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This is all Batista's fault. f*** Batista.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

See, this is why I don't get why they just don't embrace the diehard fans.

Vince will never, ever, ever give up chasing the dragon of mainstream acceptance he got in the '80s.

Yeah the Attitude Era was even bigger, but that was counter-culture. He wants to be Walt Disney.
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https://twitter.com/WWE/status/848020359383207936

Can we all just appreciate that moment?
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Wrestling is unique. I just experienced a man walk out onto a stage, to a collection of 'you suck' chants, smiling. He then wore a wig and an undersized cowboy hat and began singing and dancing. The crescendo was him pouring two jugs of milk onto his face and suit. Then everyone in the crowd stood, applauded and cried.
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EmDubyaSee posted...

Wrestling is unique. I just experienced a man walk out onto a stage, to a collection of 'you suck' chants, smiling. He then wore a wig and an undersized cowboy hat and began singing and dancing. The crescendo was him pouring two jugs of milk onto his face and suit. Then everyone in the crowd stood, applauded and cried.

(Credit to a guy on Reddit)
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So in Injustice 2, Bane has a move that is an RKO out of nowhere and I think I need to make him my main.
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I'm watching Bring it to the Table cause I'm bored and I just heard Sam Rosenberg say we shouldn't be rejecting Roman Reigns because when he was in Shield, we all chose him to be the guy over Rollins and Ambrose. And that is just the most confusing thing.
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I mean we thought he would be but I don't think any of us WANTED him to be
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I think he missed the fine point that Roman in Shield was actually used well. He barely spoke, his job was to be scary, beat people up and spear someone as part of Shield's "Someone is about to finish off Rollins, now Roman will spear them out of nowhere" finisher. Shield Roman =/= Sufferin Succotash Roman
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Shield Roman =/= Sufferin Succotash Roman

This.

We wanted THAT Roman to be the guy, but they gave us a different Roman and said ACCEPT HIM AS THE GUY instead...

Also, let's not act like, in general, the booking is dictated by fan desires. For every one time Vince happens to agree with the fans, and therefore projects the image that he is giving us what we want, there are probably 10 times where he completely and totally f***ing ignores what we want and gives us the opposite.
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Gonna try to predict both cards as someone who watches sometimes

Roode
Asuka
Authors
Aleister
Team Dillinger

Neville
Luke Harper (I know he's not entered but I think he'll be there)
Wyatt
Lesnar
Reigns
Rollins
Styles
Sasha Banks (Turns heel on Bayley)
Jericho
Cena/Nikki
Corbin
Enzo/Cass
Naomi

Only ones I'm unsure of are Owens/Jericho and the Battle Royal
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VeryInsane posted...

Sasha Banks (Turns heel on Bayley)

I think this means Charlotte wins, not Sasha.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Sasha Banks (Turns heel on Bayley)

I think this means Charlotte wins, not Sasha.

Eh, not necessarily. Could just be a dirty finish or something

Regardless I think that's the direction that's gonna happen after Mania
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Could do a finish like that Zayn/Neville/Breeze/??? NXT title match where Neville pulled the ref out of the ring when Zayn had the match won, and then proceeded to be a pseudo-heel for the resulting feud with Zayn

Except after the match is over Sasha beats the f*** out of Bayley
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XIII_rocks posted...

Could do a finish like that Zayn/Neville/Breeze/??? NXT title match where Neville pulled the ref out of the ring when Zayn had the match won, and then proceeded to be a pseudo-heel for the resulting feud with Zayn

Except after the match is over Sasha beats the f*** out of Bayley

It's an elimination match though so that's a little tricky
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The ending is probably Bayley eliminating Sasha, Sasha running back out and costing Bayley the match against Charlotte. This sets up a follow-up at the next PPV for Bayley and Charlotte's rematch, with either one winning. Charlotte winning makes sense. You start a non-title feud with Bayley and Sasha, and go with Charlotte vs. Nia (ugh) for a month or two. You could extend this until the draft in June easily, and then bring over Becky Lynch to feud with Charlotte.
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Or you could have someone ELSE in the division for a change...maybe. It's like the female equivalent of Shield/Jeri-KO.

They have Emma. Use her.
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Strife2 posted...

Or you could have someone ELSE in the division for a change...maybe. It's like the female equivalent of Shield/Jeri-KO.

They have Emma. Use her.

I was trying to use WWE booking logic.
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I know. That's the part that hurts thinking about.
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WWE announces a 32 competitor women's tournament. Do they even have 32 women to do this?

I like the idea of wrestlers being themselves and we can pick and choose who we like in a feud. That is the model Cena puts out well. He's a good guy for the business, he can wrestle or sandbag it as needed, kids love him, he stays true to himself, etc. He's also a poser and annoying and tacky and the real corporate champion type of guy in this era.

If Roman was just Roman, and a badass quiet intensity kinda guy, I think it'd be pretty entertaining at times. but, well, he's not booked that way but you all know that etc
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ShatteredElysium posted...

WWE announces a 32 competitor women's tournament. Do they even have 32 women to do this?

It's pretty clear that it's going to be 32 women who are either from NXT or outside of the company. Doesn't look like any main roster women.

Could be a test balloon for a women's show.
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neonreaper posted...

I like the idea of wrestlers being themselves and we can pick and choose who we like in a feud. That is the model Cena puts out well. He's a good guy for the business, he can wrestle or sandbag it as needed, kids love him, he stays true to himself, etc. He's also a poser and annoying and tacky and the real corporate champion type of guy in this era.

If Roman was just Roman, and a badass quiet intensity kinda guy, I think it'd be pretty entertaining at times. but, well, he's not booked that way but you all know that etc

How do you know this Roman isn't real life Roman?
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Been telling you guys about the women's tournament for awhile. After the CWC was such a success it was next in the pipeline.

Was supposed to be earlier this year but the landscape of the UK scene necessitated they do that one immediately to lock people up
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VeryInsane posted...

XIII_rocks posted...

Could do a finish like that Zayn/Neville/Breeze/??? NXT title match where Neville pulled the ref out of the ring when Zayn had the match won, and then proceeded to be a pseudo-heel for the resulting feud with Zayn

Except after the match is over Sasha beats the f*** out of Bayley

It's an elimination match though so that's a little tricky

Oh damn
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How could you forget Tyson Kidd?
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If he can't wrestle ever again, he should give someone his FACT gimmick
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I'm not so sure Roman as himself is any different than the Roman we're seeing either.

Either he's been in character for every interview he's ever done, or that's just who he is. The Talk Is Jericho Roman is the same person as "I'm the big dog" Roman.
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Jakyl25 posted...

If he can't wrestle ever again, he should give someone his FACT gimmick

He did.

Curt Hawkins.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsX1ATcyQxU

Came across this and almost teared up. This was so good.
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It looks good now but for so long back then it looked like they were just going to tease and tease and tease but never give us what we wanted with Bryan. I think that was the most frustrated I had ever been with WWE with how long they dragged that out. Even now it still feels like one of the few times the fans forced their hand rather than it actually being their plan.

Obviously it worked out in the end so it's all good but I was so certain it wouldn't for the longest time. I mean that Bray feud looked like the death knell for Bryan's story

Portia Perez retired too early.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsX1ATcyQxU

Came across this and almost teared up. This was so good.

BOut to see the exact opposite tomorrow
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I'm all for Roman retiring Taker.

He hasn't had a good match since WM29.
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