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TheRock1525
03/28/17 4:23:11 PM
#351:


kevwaffles posted...
Well the whole Drumpf thing started because he inexplicably attacked Jon Stewart over his family changing their last name (which iirc isn't even true). So it's not exactly like he didn't open that door himself.


Nah, Jon Stewart didn't call him Drumpf. He called him "f***face Von Clownstick."
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SupremeZero
03/28/17 4:24:27 PM
#352:


TheRock1525 posted...
kevwaffles posted...
Well the whole Drumpf thing started because he inexplicably attacked Jon Stewart over his family changing their last name (which iirc isn't even true). So it's not exactly like he didn't open that door himself.


Nah, Jon Stewart didn't call him Drumpf. He called him "f***face Von Clownstick."

Yes, but John Oliver based Drumpf on that happening.
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Jakyl25
03/28/17 4:26:03 PM
#353:


It's one thing to bring it up as hypocrisy

It's another entirely to use it as an insult for a year.
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TheRock1525
03/28/17 4:27:38 PM
#354:


For the story from Stewart:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEgplXwNWk
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Paratroopa1
03/28/17 4:28:28 PM
#355:


The Drumpf thing is a pretty tired meme at this point, I mean the whole point of it was to strip Trump of his 'mystique' before the election, and that ship has pretty well f***ing sailed at this point, hasn't it

There's cleverer ways to insult the guy now, and a never-ending stream of ammunition to do it with
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Jakyl25
03/28/17 4:29:07 PM
#356:


Like, I've seen alt-righters argue that using a last name he doesn't go by anymore is basically like intentionally misgendering a transgender person or using their deadname. And I kinda agree.

EDIT:
(And they would know because intentionally misgendering people is one of their core tenets <_<)
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Paratroopa1
03/28/17 4:30:25 PM
#357:


Jakyl25 posted...
Like, I've seen alt-righters argue that using a last name he doesn't go by anymore is basically like intentionally misgendering a transgender person or using their deadname. And I kinda agree.

Oh for f***'s sake, you cannot allow them to get their foot in the door on this argument.
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Jakyl25
03/28/17 4:33:32 PM
#358:


Obviously it is nowhere near the same level of bigotry or potential damage. I'm not arguing that in practice they are comparable crimes. Just arguing that I see the point that it's moderately hypocritical.
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SupremeZero
03/28/17 4:34:09 PM
#359:


Jakyl25 posted...
Obviously it is nowhere near the same level of bigotry or potential damage. I'm not arguing that in practice they are comparable crimes. Just arguing that I see the point that it's moderately hypocritical.

The point of the name is regarding hypocrisy in the first place, so...
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Paratroopa1
03/28/17 4:38:12 PM
#360:


Jakyl25 posted...
Obviously it is nowhere near the same level of bigotry or potential damage. I'm not arguing that in practice they are comparable crimes. Just arguing that I see the point that it's moderately hypocritical.

Well, you got point #1 from my list of reasons why you can't accept this argument. Here's a few more:

- Trump is the president, and is therefore more open to criticism than the average person.
- Trump himself was 'deadnaming' someone in this same way, and the Drumpf thing was brought up only as a means to highlight his own hypocrisy.
- The alt-right are only protecting him in this way because he's Trump. They're already engaging in hypocrisy of their own. Whoever made this argument is only doing so because they felt insulted personally.
- The alt-right is full of s***.
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Jakyl25
03/28/17 4:38:31 PM
#361:


Right. I acknowledge the initial story about it as being on point to make a statement about Trump's hypocrisy. It's the continued use of it I don't like.

Para, you obviously think there is a potential for a slippery slope here. Could you spell it out a bit more where they might go with it? I admit being naïve enough to not see it
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Paratroopa1
03/28/17 4:40:04 PM
#362:


It's not a slippery slope, they're just full of s*** if they suddenly think that this is such a great insult when the alt-right is where so much anti-trans bile spills out from in the first place. It's just straight up hypocrisy.
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SupremeZero
03/28/17 4:40:23 PM
#363:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Obviously it is nowhere near the same level of bigotry or potential damage. I'm not arguing that in practice they are comparable crimes. Just arguing that I see the point that it's moderately hypocritical.

Well, you got point #1 from my list of reasons why you can't accept this argument. Here's a few more:

- The alt-right is full of s***.
- Trump is the president, and is therefore more open to criticism than the average person.
- The alt-right is full of s***.
- Trump himself was 'deadnaming' someone in this same way, and the Drumpf thing was brought up only as a means to highlight his own hypocrisy.
- The alt-right is full of s***.
- The alt-right are only protecting him in this way because he's Trump. They're already engaging in hypocrisy of their own. Whoever made this argument is only doing so because they felt insulted personally.
- The alt-right is full of s***.


FTFY
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Paratroopa1
03/28/17 4:41:07 PM
#364:


As for the continued use of the Drumpf meme, I already said I think it's tired, I don't think there's really more to it than that
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Jakyl25
03/28/17 4:42:05 PM
#365:


Paratroopa1 posted...
- Trump is the president, and is therefore more open to criticism than the average person.

I don't see the continued use of Drumpf as "criticism."

- Trump himself was 'deadnaming' someone in this same way, and the Drumpf thing was brought up only as a means to highlight his own hypocrisy.

Agreed.

- The alt-right are only protecting him in this way because he's Trump. They're already engaging in hypocrisy of their own. Whoever made this argument is only doing so because they felt insulted personally.

100%. I am entirely sure the argument was not made in any level of good faith.

- The alt-right is full of s***.

You can't be full of something that you are by nature
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Paratroopa1
03/28/17 4:44:20 PM
#366:


Unrelated, but this is twice in the last two days now that I've gotten an ad trying to convince me to join the NRA on Youtube

f***ing hell Youtube
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ChaosTonyV4
03/28/17 4:45:28 PM
#367:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Unrelated, but this is twice in the last two days now that I've gotten an ad trying to convince me to join the NRA on Youtube

f***ing hell Youtube


You don't want a gun p****?


This is a joke, if it doesn't read that way
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MoogleKupo141
03/28/17 5:15:28 PM
#368:


read that as "gun penis" instead of "gun, p****" at first
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Eddv
03/28/17 5:31:05 PM
#369:


Paratroopa1 posted...
The Drumpf thing is a pretty tired meme at this point, I mean the whole point of it was to strip Trump of his 'mystique' before the election, and that ship has pretty well f***ing sailed at this point, hasn't it

There's cleverer ways to insult the guy now, and a never-ending stream of ammunition to do it with


I have started to see liberals call him "45" so as to avoid having to say "President Trump" or "The President" in reference to Trump.
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CoolCly
03/28/17 5:34:18 PM
#370:


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http://i.imgur.com/dhR7p3b.jpg


https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/04/01
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Paratroopa1
03/28/17 5:35:30 PM
#371:


holy s*** I'm not gonna lie, the deep state is actually badass
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Kenri
03/28/17 5:38:32 PM
#372:


Like Godzilla awakening to defend Tokyo, so too will The Deep State arise to defend Washington. A good comic.
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SupremeZero
03/28/17 5:39:23 PM
#373:


Swamp Thing's a hero, after all.

... well, sort of.
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BowserCuffs
03/28/17 5:52:47 PM
#374:


Why'd he draw Swamp Thing so hot?
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CoolCly
03/28/17 6:03:08 PM
#375:


every time i look at that image i see something completely new i didn't notice that they just threw in as another thing to be "the bad guys"

what even is that below bilderberg, vaccinations?
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SovietOmega
03/28/17 6:09:40 PM
#376:


We should try and get an unpoliticized version made. Swamp Monster and His Legion of Swamp Friends vs. Generic Person Dude. Maybe give the dude a sword, definitely loose the truck. I think it would be a smash hit!
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SupremeZero
03/28/17 6:13:18 PM
#377:


So how is the Federal Reserve evil for Republicans, anyway?
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HaRRicH
03/28/17 7:05:52 PM
#378:


What's lost in the Drumpf conversation is that Drumpf is a new phonetically awful-sounding word in our lingo related to somebody that we've talked about almost every day for the past two years now. Forgive the fascination, but it's both so similar to the powerful sound of Trump while also so opposite of the powerful impression of Trump.
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CoolCly
03/28/17 7:10:38 PM
#379:


Drumpf is actually a perfectly sounding name for the conversation.
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Suprak the Stud
03/28/17 7:11:24 PM
#380:


BowserCuffs posted...
Why'd he draw Swamp Thing so hot?


I'm like 99% sure this guy wants to f*** Trump based on how he draws him.

http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/trump-apple-ben-garrison_orig.jpg
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VeryInsane
03/28/17 7:13:03 PM
#381:


Suprak the Stud posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Why'd he draw Swamp Thing so hot?


I'm like 99% sure this guy wants to f*** Trump based on how he draws him.

http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/trump-apple-ben-garrison_orig.jpg


First time I look into this topic in about a week

I'm impressed
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SupremeZero
03/28/17 7:13:55 PM
#382:


Suprak the Stud posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Why'd he draw Swamp Thing so hot?


I'm like 99% sure this guy wants to f*** Trump based on how he draws him.

http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/trump-apple-ben-garrison_orig.jpg

I don't suppose anyone ever told this guy that EVE was the one who was offered the apple?

... My god, he really DOES want to bang Trump.
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Suprak the Stud
03/28/17 7:27:54 PM
#385:


VeryInsane posted...
Suprak the Stud posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Why'd he draw Swamp Thing so hot?


I'm like 99% sure this guy wants to f*** Trump based on how he draws him.

http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/trump-apple-ben-garrison_orig.jpg


First time I look into this topic in about a week

I'm impressed


You're welcome!

If I have to know about a guy that only became a political cartoonist so he could masturbate to his own drawings, then everybody has to know about it.
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GreatSaibaman
03/28/17 7:52:01 PM
#386:


Ultii posted...
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/embattled-dnc-asks-all-staffers-resignation-letters-n739676

ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Good, it was overdue.

It's what always happens with a new chair <_<
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BowserCuffs
03/28/17 8:45:36 PM
#387:


Suprak the Stud posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Why'd he draw Swamp Thing so hot?


I'm like 99% sure this guy wants to f*** Trump based on how he draws him.

http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/trump-apple-ben-garrison_orig.jpg


Speaking as a gay man, that's pretty disturbing.
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Wanglicious
03/28/17 8:49:50 PM
#388:


SovietOmega posted...
We should try and get an unpoliticized version made.


this is way funnier than it should be when you know who made the picture and his history.
by all means, go for it.
i want to see that chapter be made.
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metroid composite
03/28/17 8:56:36 PM
#389:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I see nothing wrong with using the left's own logic against them, especially when they make fun of Trump's hair all day long before acting like a harmless joke about Maxine Waters' hair is racist. I'm all about laughing at people who think identity politics and double standards win elections.

For me the issue with the hair thing is that O'Riley used is two fold:

1. He uses it as a way to not actually respond to anything she says. "I'm sorry I didn't hear a word she said" were his words.
2. He refers to it as a "James Brown wig". To me this is kind-of like him saying "all black people look the same to me"--black hair tends to be very curly naturally.


Saying someone has bad hair as a side note is kind-of whatever. People who liked Bernie Sanders pointed out that he doesn't comb his hair. I remember watching The Apprentice and seeing Trump saying "Why does it matter if that kid has a bad haircut? I have a bad haircut."

What makes O'Riley's statement different is that he used appearance as an excuse to dismiss her ideas, and given that this is what most African American hair looks like if not artificially straightened, it felt kind of like racial profiling.
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LapisLazuli
03/28/17 9:01:26 PM
#390:


https://twitter.com/AP/status/846791438402830336

Goodbye Earth.
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GreatSaibaman
03/28/17 9:01:36 PM
#391:


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-baseball-mlb-was-trump-idUSKBN16Z2R3

Trump continues chickening out of potentially embarrassing moments.
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LapisLazuli
03/28/17 9:03:09 PM
#392:


GreatSaibaman posted...
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-baseball-mlb-was-trump-idUSKBN16Z2R3

Trump continues chickening out of potentially embarrassing moments.


He can't hold the ball in his tiny hands.
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BowserCuffs
03/28/17 9:25:41 PM
#393:


LapisLazuli posted...
https://twitter.com/AP/status/846791438402830336

Goodbye Earth.


https://twitter.com/Override__/status/846821346571096065
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ChaosTonyV4
03/28/17 10:24:24 PM
#394:


https://altright.com/2017/03/27/7-reasons-why-alt-right-men-are-the-hottest/

The Alt-Right aren't white supremacists.

They just really like to talk about the superiority of white babies and people.
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Kenri
03/28/17 10:28:57 PM
#395:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
The Alt-Right aren't white supremacists.

nobody believes this
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Skyridge87
03/28/17 10:29:24 PM
#396:


Pretty sure that was sarcasm.
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red13n
03/28/17 10:36:14 PM
#397:


I maintain that Hillary would have been better off if she doubled down on her criticism of Trump supporters instead of backing off.

Thats a big reason people couldnt win against Trump actually. They kept trying to revert back to political correctness instead of just sticking to what the story actually was.
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metroid composite
03/28/17 10:55:07 PM
#398:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://altright.com/2017/03/27/7-reasons-why-alt-right-men-are-the-hottest/

The Alt-Right aren't white supremacists.

They just really like to talk about the superiority of white babies and people.

"The Alt-Right is accused by the Lügenpresse"

Hm, using terms literally from Nazi Germany. (Pretty sure it's not actually legal to say Lügenpresse in Germany even today).

"They’ve quit the sorcery of the Jew Tube"

Uhh...wow.

Are you sure these aren't the openly Nazi type alt right?
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ChaosTonyV4
03/28/17 10:57:28 PM
#399:


red13n posted...
I maintain that Hillary would have been better off if she doubled down on her criticism of Trump supporters instead of backing off.

Thats a big reason people couldnt win against Trump actually. They kept trying to revert back to political correctness instead of just sticking to what the story actually was.


Yeah I mean the Deplorables comment is sort of a good example of this.

She said a portion of Trump supporters are "what she'd call the basket of deplorables", and somehow that got twisted into "Hillary called half the country deplorable", which she didn't do, but then she apologized, retroactively confirming the false story.
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Kenri
03/28/17 10:57:33 PM
#400:


Skyridge87 posted...
Pretty sure that was sarcasm.

there's no need for sarcasm with a statement that's already openly ridiculous!
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