Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1270

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CaptainOfCrush posted...

LinkMarioSamus posted...

Or people might just have more fond memories of gaming in 2011 than 2006? Doesn't help that the former is more recently and the impact of those games is being felt far more. Just throwing in my two cents.

I give 2011 a lot of credit because it was the last time that people got HYPED for gaming, mainly because of Skyrim. But do you really think people have fonder memories of that year than 2006, which had KHII to start the year and TP + the launch of the Wii to end it? Shoot, in terms of pure excitement, E3 2006 alone can probably beat the weakest years in the bracket if we found some way to poll that.

Not LtM, but I do. 2006 was a bad year and people were annoyed at how few games there were. If not for the Wii it would not even be a contest. 2011 was awesome. I remember people really excited about that November, how it was the best month for gaming ever, and not just for Skyrim. So many games.

I think 2011 settles the depth argument. It should also be noted that yes, maybe 2006 did not have its full strength, but neither did 2011 because so many of 2011's legion of games weren't shown.
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The 2006 match pic complainers just need to admit they got it wrong, and the pic meant very little to nothing. Skyrim was the most hyped single player game of the past 10ish years besides maybe Brawl (which isnt really a single player game tbh).

But Novemeber 2011 wasnt the best month ever, not even close. Fall 2001, 2004 each had better individual months off the to of my head.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Dude, I made the 2015 stats. I had to manually adjust Skyrim a little higher because I felt that Tumblr spillover was negatively affecting it - otherwise it's below Fallout 3, which felt really wrong. It didn't do that amazing considering it's pedigree, and it was clearly inferior to TP in every example.

Fair enough, I was not aware of that, apologies.

I would still take Skyrim regardless, but it would be a toss up.
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Lightning Strikes posted...

It should also be noted that yes, maybe 2006 did not have its full strength, but neither did 2011 because so many of 2011's legion of games weren't shown.

I agree with you there, but that's a moot point. Most of the board were aware of SBAllen's R1 picture format before brackets locked down. We understood that he would be showcasing four games per year. If he had somehow found a way to showcase 8+ (and had we known about it), I'm sure most people would have gone with 2011 because of its superior depth. However, that was never the format, and people made the decision that "2006's four strongest games are stronger than 2011's."

Also, I really challenge your memories if you feel that people weren't excited about gaming in 2006. That was, collectively, the most gamers had been excited about their hobby since 2001, and that level of hype has not been repeated since.
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No worries - I was just pointing out that Skyrim really didn't do that great in 2015 considering the game it felt like it should have been. A prime example is it doing worse on Metroid Prime than Fallout 3. Would anyone here take Fallout 3 over Skyrim? Probably not, but man.
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Lightning Strikes posted...

I think 2011 settles the depth argument. It should also be noted that yes, maybe 2006 did not have its full strength, but neither did 2011 because so many of 2011's legion of games weren't shown.

How many games did you think will be shown? 10? I thought we were going to get the same picture as we saw in the 80s vote-in. So basically it would have been

2006
Twilight Princess
Kingdom Hearts II
Oblivion
Okami
Final Fantasy XII
Gears of War

2011
Skyrim
Skyward Sword
Dark Souls
Batman: Arkham City
Portal 2
Pokemon Black/White

That still looks like a win for 2006, only the last game is when 2011 takes the lead. Maybe Portal 2 can defeat Final Fantasy XII.
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E3 2006 was an all time hype show.
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Also, I think the match is a lot closer if TP is put up against Skyward Sword. No reason not to do that when Skyrim was put up against oblivion.
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I mean, people were excited for the Wii, and Twilight Princess with it. But mostly it was a dead year. The 360 was still taking off. Sony embarrassed themselves. The sixth generation was over. Not much going on to be positively excited about.
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MGS4 trailer and Snake in Brawl were humongous in 2006.
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Yeah but both those games were a while away.
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2008 games though. I think that says it all. 2006 was waiting for the next two years.
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The final xstats will tell a better story, but I'm impressed these super recent years can stand up to the mid 00s.

Modern gaming is not completely dead on gamefaqs yet!
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UltimaterializerX posted...

Also what the heck is that logo below 2015?

Rocket League
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Match pic submissions are up, for round three and after.
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Also, it looks like you can only make pics for one game at a time, instead of making a big compilation pic.
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Rocket League is fun and good.

2006 really comes down to TP and KH2. Oblivion is the Brawl of TES now, nobody likes it over Skyrim or Morrowind, and the rest of the games are mediocre at best strength-wise on this site.

What's the x-stat rankings for Portal 2, Dark Souls, Okami, Gears of War, and FF12? Too lazy to back up my own arguments.
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Metal_DK posted...

super metroid's year being about as strong as its ever been

on Gamefaqs.

Not_Wylvane posted...

What's the x-stat rankings for Portal 2, Dark Souls, Okami, Gears of War, and FF12? Too lazy to back up my own arguments.

According to lol x-stats:

Okami
Dark Souls
FF12
Portal 2
Gears of War

Dark Souls, FF12, and Portal 2 are very closely lumped together, with Okami a step above them (it gets 55% on Dark Souls). My guess is that Dark Souls has aged really well and could challenge Okami these days, but who knows.
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I'd bet on Undertale to beat all Final Fantasy games on most sites except maaaaaybe VII.

And most Zelda games too.

Looks like we'll have proper system representation for Round 3+ pics

Could turn things around for stuff like SNES for 1991, N64 for 1996 / PS1 for 2000, GC / GBA / Xbox for 2001, etc
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Nice, systems! 2006 ready to make some noise!
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man, you're really sore about that!
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And now this contest becomes a stealth Best Console Ever tournament.
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transience posted...

man, you're really sore about that!

I was fine about it until Ngamer made an excellent argument as to the extent it was screwed when we did the podcast last night. He really swayed me into buttdevestation.
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yeah I'm with ya
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Nice, systems! 2006 ready to make some noise!

LOL

96 might have a new lease on life, though. SM64, SMRPG, RE1, and the god damned N64 in four images may be what it needs to push past the competition.
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Oh man, if 2004 was around, we could have tried using this pic for the DS


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BK_Sheikah00 posted...

2015 deserves to lose for excluding Bloodborne

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NowItsAngeTime posted...

Looks like we'll have proper system representation for Round 3+ pics

Could turn things around for stuff like SNES for 1991, N64 for 1996 / PS1 for 2000, GC / GBA / Xbox for 2001, etc

That's PS2 for 2000. Well, that requires 2000 to survive that 2000/1996 match in Round 2, since it seems like the Round 1 pics will be reused for Round 2. 2000 is at somewhat of a disadvantage because it's missing out on Pokemon GSC.

Also, you forgot about the PS1 for 1995. I expect 1995 to make it to Round 3, where it'll get a chance to use the PS1 to patch up its lack of depth beyond Chrono Trigger.
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LusterSoldier posted...

NowItsAngeTime posted...

Looks like we'll have proper system representation for Round 3+ pics

Could turn things around for stuff like SNES for 1991, N64 for 1996 / PS1 for 2000, GC / GBA / Xbox for 2001, etc

That's PS2 for 2000. Well, that requires 2000 to survive that 2000/1996 match in Round 2, since it seems like the Round 1 pics will be reused for Round 2. 2000 is at somewhat of a disadvantage because it's missing out on Pokemon GSC.

Also, you forgot about the PS1 for 1995. I expect 1995 to make it to Round 3, where it'll get a chance to use the PS1 to patch up its lack of depth beyond Chrono Trigger.

2000 doesn't need Pokemon to beat 1996. Or did I see a different result in round 1?
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2000 could probably still win without Pokemon GSC since Zelda and Final Fantasy is a better combination than 2 Marios, but Pokemon would help seal that match in favor of 2000.


At this point, I'd say 2005 has this match locked up unless the "undertale_bot" Twitter account tweets about this match, which caused devastating damage whenever it tweeted about the contest back in 2015.
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Match XXI – Round 2 – 1995 vs. 1987

Previous Results

1995
Round 1: Defeated 1986, 89.00% - 11.00%

1987
Round 1: Defeated 1985, 74.40% - 25.60%

Analysis

Round 2, begin. 1995 did pretty well in the first round, scoring the biggest blowout of the round and likely the contest and it did it without any of its Nintendo SNES games for support. I’m still waiting for the match picture and I hope SBAllen has changed it up a bit, but even if he does a repeat of the first round I feel 1995 (Chrono Trigger) will be strong enough to win.

Relative to the board’s expectation 1987 performed incredibly well, though to be fair this was likely due to SFF. In hindsight we should have seen this coming, outside of the diehard Mario fans very few people would consider 1985 to be a better year for NES gaming than 1987.

There was some talk about 1987 pulling off the upset, but I don’t see it. Unlike Super Mario Bros. Chrono Trigger would crush The Legend of Zelda in a match and I don’t see the other 1987 titles closing the gap. Sure the year benefits from franchise voting, but those voters are much more easily swayed when something popular comes their way.

charmander6000’s Bracket: 1995 > 1987

charmander6000’s Prediction: 1995 wins, 67.33% - 32.67%
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Match XXII – Round 2 – 2001 vs. 2008

Previous Results

2001
Round 1: Defeated 2014, 83.17% - 16.83%

2008
Round 1: Defeated 2009, 71.83% - 28.17%

Analysis

This will be 2001’s second opponent to also have a Super Smash Bros. game. Despite being a strong Brawl supporter during the 2010 contest if a rematch between the two games were to occur I would take Melee to win. With that said I would expect Brawl to have a decent performance. 2008 looked pretty good last round though that is likely due to 2009 being weak.

Despite taking 2001 to the final I have a feeling 2008 will impress in this match. The SSBB/MGS4/Fallout 3 trio is still a group of games people would want on their side while I’m beginning to feel Halo may be more deadweight than helpful for 2001. On one hand it brings diversity, but on the other it feels like GameFAQs has stopped caring about the series. Assuming Metal Gear Solid 2 fails to appear in the picture Melee and Final Fantasy X will have to pick up the slack caused by the bottom two games.

2001 should still win the match, but I’m expecting a repeat of 1994/2004 where a lot of people will question 2001’s chances in the third round.

charmander6000’s Bracket: 2001 > 2008

charmander6000’s Prediction: 2001 wins, 58.21% - 41.79%
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I have to ask, us who voted for 1996 > 1997, what were we thinking? Can I hear someone else's thought process on this one? Upon review of the year at large, I don't see how 1996 has a chance.

For me, I am personally unfamiliar with the popularity of FF7 and think Super Mario 64 is one of the most well known games of all time, on top of that it is an amazing game. I thought SMRPG could only bolster that, and 96' was set. (I now think I was making a crappy risk)

I just need 1996 to beat 2000 thx
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anyone worried about 95 if we reuse the r1 picture? for all of yoblazer's ranting and raving about the 2006 picture, the 1995 one is way, way worse.
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The Round 1 match pictures are going to be reused since there's no Round 2 match picture located at the expected URL.

https://gamefaqs.akamaized.net/images/byg/r2/1995.jpg

There's nothing there, so they are getting reused.
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I disagree. 1995 has Crono in slot 0 and Chrono Trigger in Slot 2. There are no concerns that the voters might not be aware that Chrono Trigger came out in 1995. Among 2006's problems were TP was in slot 4 and voters were unlikely to wait long enough for the picture to scroll that far.
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Welp, looks like I was wrong about 2015. So much for my perfect bracket. Fortunately, I didn't have 2015 making it past the next round, and I doubt 2005 will, either. So I may still have a shot overall.

Linkzcap posted...

I have to ask, us who voted for 1996 > 1997, what were we thinking? Can I hear someone else's thought process on this one? Upon review of the year at large, I don't see how 1996 has a chance.

For me, I am personally unfamiliar with the popularity of FF7 and think Super Mario 64 is one of the most well known games of all time, on top of that it is an amazing game. I thought SMRPG could only bolster that, and 96' was set. (I now think I was making a crappy risk)

I think it is a pretty decent pick. Even in a games contest SM64 definitely has a shot against FF7.
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What would be your reaction after seeing this result?

1995 - 49%
1987 - 51%
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disbelief
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SwiftyDC posted...

What would be your reaction after seeing this result?

1995 - 49%
1987 - 51%

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SwiftyDC posted...

What would be your reaction after seeing this result?

1995 - 49%
1987 - 51%

Time to check out of this contest and go reread the stats topics from 2002-2005.
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SwiftyDC posted...

What would be your reaction after seeing this result?

1995 - 49%
1987 - 51%

Really shocked, because I bet CT could pull 45% on the entire NES library.
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I would be quite surprised at 1987 beating 1995, but not the most shocked I've ever been. However, if round 1 pics get re-used, that would be the best thing possible for 1987's chances. Any pic changes would more than likely benefit CT (er, I mean, 1995) and more than likely hurt 1987, relative to the previous round.
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Yeah, the years between 1987 & 1995 are very hard to determine. So are the years between 2003 & 2005, 1992 & 1998, & 1996 & 2000.

What I do know, is that 2008 is definitely going to be stomped by 2001, as well as 2011 getting stomped by 1994, 2002 being stomped by 1991, & 2007 being stomped by 1997.