Board 8 > Chrono Cross Mafia Topic 5: To Fort Dragonia!!

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eaedwards6400
05/15/17 3:19:03 PM
#1:


But first we go through the pirate ship, then we need ice breath to cool the lava, then we need to fight the dragon, then we need to fight the dragoons, AND THEN we'll be at the fort.

The Playerlist!
1.benjamin3740
2.IfGodCouldDie
3.Nanahara715
4.Oddity
5.red13n
6.Sheep007
7.Terra-enforcer
8.UltimaterializerX
9.VeryInsane
10.hteaD (replaced whatisurnameplz)

No Longer Exist:
[LD1] MZero - Glenn, TOWN Miller
[NK1] Shadow_goer16, TOWN Bus Driver
[NK1] Sceptilesolar - Lynx, INDEPENDENT Serial Killer
[NK1] ???? - Corrik, ???? ?????
[LD2] ScareChan - Dragon God, INDEPENDENT Survivor
[NK2] pjbasis - Karsh, DRAGOONS Jack of All Trades

Votals
[2] Sheep - Oddity, (Death), VI
[1] IGCD- Nana
[1] red - Ulti
[1] Death - Terra
[0] Oddity - Nana

WITH 10 ALIVE, IT TAKES 6 TO LYNCH. DAY ENDS ON TUESDAY THE 16TH AT 10PM EST.
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 3:21:31 PM
#2:


Shouldn't it take 6?

Also Sheep is super obv, no reason to jailkeep a scanner that also roleblocks them
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Nanahara715
05/15/17 3:21:38 PM
#3:


VeryInsane posted...
Luccia is also a dragoon scientist

Too fucking easy


Thought this too but at this point Mafia are clearly Zoah, Marcy, and Karsh.

Luccia jails Pip, so i guess that's fine, though I'd have used Norris as a jailer I think.
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Nanahara715
05/15/17 3:23:50 PM
#4:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Anyways, my GRAND THEORY OF FLAVOR UNITY -

I noticed Death claimed Funguy as vanilla.

I'm Poshul, also a vanilla.

I thought "Hey, these are both non-human characters. Maybe the non-humans are vanillas. Mojo, Turnip, Razzley, Sprigg, that alien dude, Pip, etc."

That's literally it.

That's why you don't like my claim?


This is why I HATE your claim.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/15/17 3:25:01 PM
#5:


Nanahara715 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Anyways, my GRAND THEORY OF FLAVOR UNITY -

I noticed Death claimed Funguy as vanilla.

I'm Poshul, also a vanilla.

I thought "Hey, these are both non-human characters. Maybe the non-humans are vanillas. Mojo, Turnip, Razzley, Sprigg, that alien dude, Pip, etc."

That's literally it.

That's why you don't like my claim?


This is why I HATE your claim.

Have any vanillas even flipped yet?
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Nanahara715
05/15/17 3:26:52 PM
#7:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Anyways, my GRAND THEORY OF FLAVOR UNITY -

I noticed Death claimed Funguy as vanilla.

I'm Poshul, also a vanilla.

I thought "Hey, these are both non-human characters. Maybe the non-humans are vanillas. Mojo, Turnip, Razzley, Sprigg, that alien dude, Pip, etc."

That's literally it.

That's why you don't like my claim?


This is why I HATE your claim.

Have any vanillas even flipped yet?


Nope.
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Terra-enforcer
05/15/17 3:27:05 PM
#8:


@Nanahara715
My role proves your theory wrong. I'm Serge's mom. Guess that makes sense as to why I tried rereading to decipher your theory but couldn't see it.

Off topic, but in hindsight I wish I would have made a breadcrumb for my role yesterday (mother's day) specifically. The one time for that unique breadcrumb and I missed out on the opportunity. Damn.

IGCD or Death seem like the best lynch picks imo. I fully believe Sheep and I didn't doubt him all that much. It was just the pessimistic side in me telling me that something was up causing Sheep to be incredibly inactive compared to how he usually is.
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 3:29:11 PM
#9:


Why the fuck do you believe sheep
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IfGodCouldDie
05/15/17 3:31:20 PM
#10:


Nanahara715 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Anyways, my GRAND THEORY OF FLAVOR UNITY -

I noticed Death claimed Funguy as vanilla.

I'm Poshul, also a vanilla.

I thought "Hey, these are both non-human characters. Maybe the non-humans are vanillas. Mojo, Turnip, Razzley, Sprigg, that alien dude, Pip, etc."

That's literally it.

That's why you don't like my claim?


This is why I HATE your claim.

Have any vanillas even flipped yet?


Nope.

So you're theory is based soley off of your role and someone else's claim?
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Nanahara715
05/15/17 3:32:19 PM
#11:


VeryInsane posted...
Why the fuck do you believe sheep


Why DONT you believe Sheep?
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 3:33:00 PM
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Nanahara715 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Why the fuck do you believe sheep


Why DONT you believe Sheep?


He claimed a role with roleblocking powers and literally used it on claimed watcher
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Nanahara715
05/15/17 3:33:00 PM
#13:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Anyways, my GRAND THEORY OF FLAVOR UNITY -

I noticed Death claimed Funguy as vanilla.

I'm Poshul, also a vanilla.

I thought "Hey, these are both non-human characters. Maybe the non-humans are vanillas. Mojo, Turnip, Razzley, Sprigg, that alien dude, Pip, etc."

That's literally it.

That's why you don't like my claim?


This is why I HATE your claim.

Have any vanillas even flipped yet?


Nope.

So you're theory is based soley off of your role and someone else's claim?


I mean, PJ claimed a human as vanilla and was lying, there's that too.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/15/17 3:33:52 PM
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Nanahara715 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Why the fuck do you believe sheep


Why DONT you believe Sheep?

Why are you so quick to jump to Sheep AND Terras defense?
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eaedwards6400
05/15/17 3:34:05 PM
#15:


VeryInsane posted...
Shouldn't it take 6?


Yes.
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IfGodCouldDie
05/15/17 3:34:40 PM
#16:


Nanahara715 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Anyways, my GRAND THEORY OF FLAVOR UNITY -

I noticed Death claimed Funguy as vanilla.

I'm Poshul, also a vanilla.

I thought "Hey, these are both non-human characters. Maybe the non-humans are vanillas. Mojo, Turnip, Razzley, Sprigg, that alien dude, Pip, etc."

That's literally it.

That's why you don't like my claim?


This is why I HATE your claim.

Have any vanillas even flipped yet?


Nope.

So you're theory is based soley off of your role and someone else's claim?


I mean, PJ claimed a human as vanilla and was lying, there's that too.

Omfg...
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 3:35:49 PM
#17:


By the way I thought Nana's argument had to do with the elements

I have no idea why
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 3:37:58 PM
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There's just no reason to think Sheep is telling the truth unless you think he's the dumbest player to ever play the game
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Nanahara715
05/15/17 3:38:28 PM
#19:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
VeryInsane posted...
Why the fuck do you believe sheep


Why DONT you believe Sheep?

Why are you so quick to jump to Sheep AND Terras defense?


I don't think I'm jumping to Terra's defense at all.

I'm just evaluating possibilities.

This post implies a scum team of 4.
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Sheep007
05/15/17 3:49:33 PM
#20:


Sorry if I did block you from doing anything VI but you're pretty strongly Town to me and you said you used your power N0 iirc, so I could see no reason why not. Why, as Scum, would I block you over blocking Oddity again, who can basically completely confirm someone as Town or Scum? I said before I used it on Oddity N1 because I wasn't sure any other protection role would think he's Town, I wasn't even sure if there'd be another protection role, plus if I saved him from a kill N1 (which I believe happened barring Scum shooting each other last night or another Bus Driver as I think there's 2 SKs) it may have discouraged someone from killing him last night too, thinking I'd be on him again.

I doubt there's 4 on the Mafia team, that'd be stupidly unbalanced considering there's at least 2 third parties as well. Probably another SK too. This setup is already difficult for Town no matter what.
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htaeD
05/15/17 3:53:12 PM
#21:


this talk reminds me
did anyone not claim yet?
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Nanahara715
05/15/17 3:55:44 PM
#22:


htaeD posted...
this talk reminds me
did anyone not claim yet?


Don't think VI has full claimed, just an n0 scan.

Ulti has claimed Miller.

Death - Vanilla

IGCD - Vanilla

Nana - Vanilla

Terra - Vanilla

Red - No claim

Ben - No claim

Oddity - Tracker

Sheep - Jailer
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htaeD
05/15/17 4:08:44 PM
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his lack of posts and his scarce yet sheepish voting record is a big part of it
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 4:12:17 PM
#25:


Wait Nana ended up claiming nilla? Fooled the shit out of me.

VI can you add anything to these claims?
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 4:12:32 PM
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The case is he claimed scum roleblocker
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 4:14:58 PM
#27:


UltimaterializerX posted...
It isn't lost on me that VI may be scum fakeclaiming that scan to buddy up to me. No one else even considering this possibility is worrisome.

What is the case on Sheep?

I considered it earlier, more i n the sense of you being scum together, but its possible either way.
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 4:17:03 PM
#28:


VeryInsane posted...
The case is he claimed scum roleblocker


Why not block Oddity again if hes scum rber. That should have been the play from scum.
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 4:35:03 PM
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Btw, nana, vanilla,? Seriously?

I mentioned this before but if you could confirm it'd be great.

Its simply not even close to where you had me thinking coming out of yesterday.
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htaeD
05/15/17 4:42:02 PM
#31:


he claimed Jailkeeper who jailed Oddity N1 and VI N2
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 4:55:11 PM
#32:


Leafeon13N posted...
VeryInsane posted...
The case is he claimed scum roleblocker


Why not block Oddity again if hes scum rber. That should have been the play from scum.


Two possible thoughts

1) Verify Sheep's claim. Oddity voted Sheep D2 IIRC so he would go after him with his track most likely. It also checks me in case scum thinks I'm lying with my N0 scan and think it's a N1 scan

2) They actually tried to shoot Oddity but someone muddied that up
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 4:58:15 PM
#33:


Sheep007 posted...
Sorry if I did block you from doing anything VI but you're pretty strongly Town to me and you said you used your power N0 iirc, so I could see no reason why not. Why, as Scum, would I block you over blocking Oddity again, who can basically completely confirm someone as Town or Scum? I said before I used it on Oddity N1 because I wasn't sure any other protection role would think he's Town, I wasn't even sure if there'd be another protection role, plus if I saved him from a kill N1 (which I believe happened barring Scum shooting each other last night or another Bus Driver as I think there's 2 SKs) it may have discouraged someone from killing him last night too, thinking I'd be on him again.

I doubt there's 4 on the Mafia team, that'd be stupidly unbalanced considering there's at least 2 third parties as well. Probably another SK too. This setup is already difficult for Town no matter what.


I also dislike this reasoning, a ton. I can see jailkeeping me, I don't see reason for doing so to Oddity at all.
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benjamin3740
05/15/17 5:09:50 PM
#34:


Guess I should claim since I'm like the last one.

I'm Kid, and right now I am powerless, but Night 3 I'll merge with Schala and gain a strong ability, which I will not share.
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 5:12:13 PM
#35:


benjamin3740 posted...
Guess I should claim since I'm like the last one.

I'm Kid, and right now I am powerless, but Night 3 I'll merge with Schala and gain a strong ability, which I will not share.


A permanent or a one time use?
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benjamin3740
05/15/17 5:12:54 PM
#36:


Sheep, you never thought for a second on day 1 that Oddity could be scum?
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 5:14:38 PM
#37:


Ben can you reveal what your role is named without Revealing what it does?
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benjamin3740
05/15/17 5:15:56 PM
#38:


I cant. But it is a day-use ability for day 4
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 5:18:52 PM
#39:


Your claim doesn't necessarily mesh with how my role functions.

Possible host oversight but im not sure.
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 5:20:01 PM
#40:


(im claiming not vanilla, but i am not going to say more than that if i can help it.)
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 5:20:56 PM
#41:


benjamin3740 posted...
Guess I should claim since I'm like the last one.

I'm Kid, and right now I am powerless, but Night 3 I'll merge with Schala and gain a strong ability, which I will not share.


Uh

Is this your claim
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 5:21:41 PM
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Cause I'm Kid

Or Kidd, but I think eaed typo'd
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 5:21:55 PM
#43:


Wonder if that day use is the host loophole for this.
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Sheep007
05/15/17 5:24:15 PM
#44:


benjamin3740 posted...
Sheep, you never thought for a second on day 1 that Oddity could be scum?

I was fairly sure he was Town pretty much all day. Not 100% obviously, but he was one of my top Town reads along with VI and Nana and I thought he was most likely to be targeted that night.
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VeryInsane
05/15/17 5:27:54 PM
#45:


Red are you effectively claiming Schala btw

I don't care about your role just want to know your flavor
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benjamin3740
05/15/17 5:29:39 PM
#46:


Oh..........did i say Kid? I meant Cid! Oh wait this isnt final fantasy

Well that was a fail. I forgot what flavor you gave and Kid sounded unfamiliar to me and fit what i wanted.
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Leafeon13N
05/15/17 5:29:40 PM
#47:


Not Schala. Its a weird way my role potentially interacts. There is no direct mingling of our roles.
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benjamin3740
05/15/17 5:29:50 PM
#48:


I'm actually Mel, Town Vanilla. I'm weak and whiny
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benjamin3740
05/15/17 5:30:45 PM
#49:


And said I was that last thing because I wanted to draw the kill tonight. If I didnt die then I was gonna claim to have a day vig shot and put pressure on people by pointing my gun around lololol
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benjamin3740
05/15/17 5:32:25 PM
#50:


Sheep007 posted...
benjamin3740 posted...
Sheep, you never thought for a second on day 1 that Oddity could be scum?

I was fairly sure he was Town pretty much all day. Not 100% obviously, but he was one of my top Town reads along with VI and Nana and I thought he was most likely to be targeted that night.

Why tho. Like can you point to one post from day 1 that you liked from Oddity? Was it after he claimed or before?
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