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L0Z
05/16/17 4:35:41 PM
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I saw posted on facebook of a screenshot of a news article but it wasn't sourced. Was this just some liberals fantasy?
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mario2000
05/16/17 4:36:12 PM
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If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.
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Giant_Aspirin
05/16/17 4:37:01 PM
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mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.
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K181
05/16/17 4:37:52 PM
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Considering that the GOP controls both houses of congress, do you really think that over half of the House will vote to impeach and over 2/3 of the Senate will vote to convict? Not on your life, yet.
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Tmaster148
05/16/17 4:38:23 PM
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mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


Well the president can't leak classified intel, because the president can declassify intel.

Really what will get Trump impeached is if he's found to have actually committed treason, because right now there's a lot of smoke to suggest that he may have. The issue is getting the GOP to actually care, because of party > country.
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_BlueMonk
05/16/17 4:39:49 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
he issue is getting the GOP to actually care, because of party > country.

This sadly.
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mario2000
05/16/17 4:42:58 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.

Bill Clinton got impeached over something that wasn't illegal.
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NXmasterrace
05/16/17 4:42:59 PM
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No
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_Near_
05/16/17 4:43:34 PM
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We're not lucky enough for that to happen.
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NXmasterrace
05/16/17 4:43:42 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.

Bill Clinton got impeached over something that wasn't illegal.

Lying under oath is most certainly illegal
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ThePrinceFish
05/16/17 4:43:57 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.

Bill Clinton got impeached over something that wasn't illegal.

Perjury?
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Tmaster148
05/16/17 4:44:32 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.

Bill Clinton got impeached over something that wasn't illegal.


He was charged with Obstruction of Justice and Perjury. Both of which are illegal.
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P4wn4g3
05/16/17 4:44:37 PM
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mario2000 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.

Bill Clinton got impeached over something that wasn't illegal.

Clinton didn't get impeached, and he was only getting the threat from the GOP who much prefer republican puppets as president.
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HypnoCoosh
05/16/17 4:45:00 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
mario2000 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.

Bill Clinton got impeached over something that wasn't illegal.

Perjury?


Totally not illegal.
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_Near_
05/16/17 4:45:16 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Clinton didn't get impeached,


yes he did. how do you not know this?
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HypnoCoosh
05/16/17 4:46:07 PM
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one charge of perjury and one charge of obstruction of justice.
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Irony
05/16/17 4:46:53 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
mario2000 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.

Bill Clinton got impeached over something that wasn't illegal.

Clinton didn't get impeached, and he was only getting the threat from the GOP who much prefer republican puppets as president.

Another person that doesn't know what impeachment is
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prince_leo
05/16/17 4:46:59 PM
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if the republicans in office think that his continuation as president threatens their ability to be re-elected, sure
otherwise, no
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SamsungGearS2
05/16/17 4:50:24 PM
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_Near_ posted...
We're not lucky enough for that to happen.

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Capn Circus
05/16/17 4:53:07 PM
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Mc Masters and others stated what Trump said was appropriate. This is all feigned outrage. Nobody cares about this.
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P4wn4g3
05/16/17 4:54:21 PM
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_Near_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Clinton didn't get impeached,


yes he did. how do you not know this?

Hm ok. I guess he did, but it just went through the House and it didn't really affect his presidency. I was under the impression that literally nothing came of it outside of the perjury/other charges.

I guess that puts republican values in perspective for you.
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Hinakuluiau
05/16/17 4:54:54 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Mc Masters and others stated what Trump said was appropriate. This is all feigned outrage. Nobody cares about this.

1. McMasters is gonna be gone soon
2. It's not illegal for Trump to do what he did, but now we're not gonna get intelligence from other countries that don't want it shared with Russia
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Terra-enforcer
05/16/17 4:55:07 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
_Near_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Clinton didn't get impeached,


yes he did. how do you not know this?

Hm ok. I guess he did, but it just went through the House and it didn't really affect his presidency. I was under the impression that literally nothing came of it outside of the perjury/other charges.

THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT IMPEACHMENT IS

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mario2000
05/16/17 4:57:26 PM
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NXmasterrace posted...
mario2000 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.

Bill Clinton got impeached over something that wasn't illegal.

Lying under oath is most certainly illegal

oh no he lied about getting a bj the scoundrel

totally worse than endangering the entire country because of your own incompetence
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P4wn4g3
05/16/17 4:57:28 PM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
_Near_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Clinton didn't get impeached,


yes he did. how do you not know this?

Hm ok. I guess he did, but it just went through the House and it didn't really affect his presidency. I was under the impression that literally nothing came of it outside of the perjury/other charges.

THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT IMPEACHMENT IS

lol

There's the acquittal part by the senate that's fairly important.
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ThePrinceFish
05/16/17 4:58:01 PM
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mario2000 posted...

oh no he lied about getting a bj the scoundrel

totally worse than endangering the entire country because of your own incompetence

Well at least you know you were wrong about perjury not being illegal.
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mario2000
05/16/17 4:59:35 PM
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you know what's also illegal









witness intimidation
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ThePrinceFish
05/16/17 5:00:10 PM
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mario2000 posted...
you know what's also illegal









witness intimidation

over twitter lmao
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Terra-enforcer
05/16/17 5:00:40 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
_Near_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Clinton didn't get impeached,


yes he did. how do you not know this?

Hm ok. I guess he did, but it just went through the House and it didn't really affect his presidency. I was under the impression that literally nothing came of it outside of the perjury/other charges.

THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT IMPEACHMENT IS

lol

There's the acquittal part by the senate that's fairly important.

Okay? But that's not what impeachment is. Which you said never happened.
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Kinny100
05/16/17 5:00:49 PM
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president has power to declassify shit
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L0Z
05/16/17 5:00:55 PM
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mario2000 posted...
NXmasterrace posted...
mario2000 posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.

Bill Clinton got impeached over something that wasn't illegal.

Lying under oath is most certainly illegal

oh no he lied about getting a bj the scoundrel

totally worse than endangering the entire country because of your own incompetence


Technically he didn't lie. Bill said he did not have sexual relations. What he did was casual not relationship
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Amputation
05/16/17 5:01:16 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


im pretty sure that while what he did was fucking awful, it wasn't illegal. at least not WRT leaking classified information to the Russians.


You don't have to break a law to get impeached.
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mustachedmystic
05/16/17 5:01:23 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


Well the president can't leak classified intel, because the president can declassify intel.

Really what will get Trump impeached is if he's found to have actually committed treason, because right now there's a lot of smoke to suggest that he may have. The issue is getting the GOP to actually care, because of party > country.


Perhaps, but from what I heard it wasn't our intel. he gave to the Russians, it was given to us by a close ally who probably would have preferred it not get into the hands of the Russians. It's almost as if this bears repeating, the Russians are not our friends!
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ChromaticAngel
05/16/17 5:01:25 PM
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Terra-enforcer posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
_Near_ posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Clinton didn't get impeached,


yes he did. how do you not know this?

Hm ok. I guess he did, but it just went through the House and it didn't really affect his presidency. I was under the impression that literally nothing came of it outside of the perjury/other charges.

THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT IMPEACHMENT IS

lol


Basically Impeachment is a vote to go to trial. Removal is if the president is actually found guilty and Clinton was acquitted. Bill Clinton could never have been acquitted if he was never impeached in the first place *points finger to temple*
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_Near_
05/16/17 5:01:33 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
over twitter lmao


as the most powerful man in the country lmao
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P4wn4g3
05/16/17 5:02:16 PM
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I guess if Trump was tried for treason and found guilty, all his staff and the VP would lose their positions as well. I thought it went to whoever is next in line, but this makes more sense. I wonder if that would extend to, say, a supreme Court Justice hand picked by said convicted president.
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ChromaticAngel
05/16/17 5:02:58 PM
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>I have no connection to the russians
>Well I hired a guy with connections to the russians but I have no connections to the russians
>Well I may have given the russians a bunch of confidential information but I definitely didn't launder any money for them or take foreign campaign donations
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prince_leo
05/16/17 5:04:35 PM
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P4wn4g3 posted...
I guess if Trump was tried for treason and found guilty, all his staff and the VP would lose their positions as well. I thought it went to whoever is next in line, but this makes more sense. I wonder if that would extend to, say, a supreme Court Justice hand picked by said convicted president.

if it were proven, there would be a lot of pressure on Gorsuch to resign
idk if there's any way to force him out though, given that supreme court justices are supposed to be separated in function
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P4wn4g3
05/16/17 5:07:05 PM
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Isn't there enough out in the public at this point to impeach him on obstruction of Justice alone?
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ChromaticAngel
05/16/17 5:07:13 PM
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prince_leo posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
I guess if Trump was tried for treason and found guilty, all his staff and the VP would lose their positions as well. I thought it went to whoever is next in line, but this makes more sense. I wonder if that would extend to, say, a supreme Court Justice hand picked by said convicted president.

if it were proven, there would be a lot of pressure on Gorsuch to resign
idk if there's any way to force him out though, given that supreme court justices are supposed to be separated in function


you actually can remove a justice but it would be pretty hard. You would either have to show really hardcore proof that they have a political bias (i.e. a recording of him saying "I will vote however Trump tells me to vote in private") or in a case like this you could provide proof that he's somehow also connected to the russians or benefited from them in some way.
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ChromaticAngel
05/16/17 5:08:12 PM
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What I really want to know is what information he gave to the russians. What does he trust the russians with that he doesn't trust the american people with?
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Tmaster148
05/16/17 5:08:23 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
Tmaster148 posted...
mario2000 posted...
If leaking classified intel doesn't get him impeached than nothing will.


Well the president can't leak classified intel, because the president can declassify intel.

Really what will get Trump impeached is if he's found to have actually committed treason, because right now there's a lot of smoke to suggest that he may have. The issue is getting the GOP to actually care, because of party > country.


Perhaps, but from what I heard it wasn't our intel. he gave to the Russians, it was given to us by a close ally who probably would have preferred it not get into the hands of the Russians. It's almost as if this bears repeating, the Russians are not our friends!


Well if Trump is going to get hit with anything it'll be Obstruction of Justice and Treason. Him sharing this information isn't illegal despite it not being a good move.
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P4wn4g3
05/16/17 5:09:39 PM
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ChromaticAngel posted...
prince_leo posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
I guess if Trump was tried for treason and found guilty, all his staff and the VP would lose their positions as well. I thought it went to whoever is next in line, but this makes more sense. I wonder if that would extend to, say, a supreme Court Justice hand picked by said convicted president.

if it were proven, there would be a lot of pressure on Gorsuch to resign
idk if there's any way to force him out though, given that supreme court justices are supposed to be separated in function


you actually can remove a justice but it would be pretty hard. You would either have to show really hardcore proof that they have a political bias (i.e. a recording of him saying "I will vote however Trump tells me to vote in private") or in a case like this you could provide proof that he's somehow also connected to the russians or benefited from them in some way.

Well if it was found that he knew of it, that would be enough to chunk him in.

Reason I bring it up is because that would be enough for the GOP to oppose impeachment of Trump at all costs, regardless of the consequences.
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ChromaticAngel
05/16/17 5:11:32 PM
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It's much harder to remove a justice than a president because there is less opportunity for a justice to abuse their power.
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PrinceDBF
05/16/17 5:12:36 PM
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IebctW5
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DoGCyN
05/16/17 5:13:02 PM
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PrinceDBF posted...
IebctW5


Didn't know Trump visited Georgia
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Tmaster148
05/16/17 5:14:11 PM
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DoGCyN posted...
PrinceDBF posted...
IebctW5


Didn't know Trump visited Georgia


Maybe he got lost on his way to Mar-A-Lago one time.
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Capn Circus
05/16/17 5:14:45 PM
#48:


Hinakuluiau posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Mc Masters and others stated what Trump said was appropriate. This is all feigned outrage. Nobody cares about this.

1. McMasters is gonna be gone soon
2. It's not illegal for Trump to do what he did, but now we're not gonna get intelligence from other countries that don't want it shared with Russia


Israel, allegedly behind the intelligence, already made a statement saying they don't give a shit and are looking forward to work with Trump.

Furthermore, the media announced Israel was behind the intelligence (allegedly) after spending last night saying what Trump did was dangerous because Russia could find out who was behind the intelligence. Now they're the ones reporting leaked information and last night they were concerned for the country.

This is another giant, BS fear story hit job. No one gives a shit about this and nothing will come of this.
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P4wn4g3
05/16/17 5:16:57 PM
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Of course ISIS is looking forward to working with Trump. How you don't see this as a bad thing is beyond me.
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mustachedmystic
05/16/17 5:21:20 PM
#50:


Tmaster148 posted...
Him sharing this information isn't illegal despite it not being a good move.


Indeed, that's why I said perhaps.
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