Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Dante/Shulk/Yuri/J& C/Sorey/Mewtwo vs. Id/Revan/Kuja/ Nova/Sephirot

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Shulk, Yuri Hyuga, Jonathan & Charlotte, Sorey and Mikleo, Shadow Mewtwo and his clone of Dante have challenged Id, Revan, Kuja, Nova and Sephiroth to a fight! Location of the fight: Cursed Hollow - A foreboding forest splitting two strongholds, with three 'lanes' being the only clearing between the densely packed trees. No minions or tributes will spawn, and teams start on separate strongholds. Which side will win?


Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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-This match will end in 24 hours.
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Sorey is as he appears in Tales of Zestiria, with all orbs and talismans (though they buff only himself and his seraphim) and an endgame skill build. He enters the battle with 5 Blast Gauges. He does not have access to Siegfried. He has armatized with Dante. Dante is as he appears in Devil May Cry 4, though he does not have his canon regen. He may access Devil Trigger for up to 10 seconds every 5 minutes. He also has all of his weapons from Devil May Cry 3. He does not have access to Kalina Ann, Yamato, or any styles only seen in Devil May Cry 3.

Mikleo is accompanying Sorey into battle. He is as they appear in Tales of Zestiria, with an endgame skill build. He will enter battle with 5 Blast Gauges.

Shulk is as he appears in Xenoblade Chronicles, with all arts and skill trees learned and fully upgraded. He is equipped with the Monado II and Glory set of armour.

Yuri Hyuga is as seen at the end of Shadow Hearts: Covenant, with access to all of his equipment and fusions, with the exception of Dark Seraphim. He begins the fight in his Neo Amon form.

Jonathan and Charlotte are as they appear at the end of Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin, with all relics. Jonathan is equipped with the True Vampire Killer, Final Sword, Alucard's Spear, Platinum Plate, Winged Boots and Hercules Ring, with all of his sub-weapons mastered. Charlotte is equipped with the Tome of Arms X, Robe Decolette, Silent Sandals and Sorceress Crest, with all of her spells other than summons and Time Stop. They may use the Holy Lightning Dual Crush once at any point during the fight.
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Shadow Mewtwo is as he appears in his boss form in Pokken Tournament, with all of his moves as well as those of regular Mewtwo in Pokken Tournament and capable of Synergy Burst on his own. He also has the moves Recover, Solar Beam, Psychic and Sunny Day from Pokemon X & Y. He is accompanied by a clone of Dante, as follows.

Dante's clone is as he appears in Devil May Cry 4, though he does not have his canon regen. He may access Devil Trigger for up to 10 seconds every 5 minutes. He also has all of his weapons from Devil May Cry 3. He does not have access to Kalina Ann, Yamato, or any styles only seen in Devil May Cry 3. His parameters are 10% higher than the original Dante and he does not have any of the personality of the original, being completely subservient to Mewtwo's will. He will go insane if Mewtwo is defeated, attacking both friend and foe with reckless abandon, but will prioritize foes if any are in sight.

~VS~

Charlotte has cast the spell Sanctuary on Id, Kuja and Sephiroth, making them Neutral instead of Villainous. They will be unable to use any in-battle skills, techniques or magic they possess that rely on them being in their usual form.

Id is as he appears in Xenogears, with access to all of Fei's deathblows and chi. His other personalities cannot surface or influence him, and he cannot summon any Gears.

Revan is as he appears in Star Wars: KOTOR. He is a Neutral Scoundrel/Sentinel, has access to his best non-broken equipment and access to all his Force powers as seen in KOTOR save for those in the Persuasion, Stun, Shutdown, Strangulation, and Fear chains.

Kuja is as seen in Final Fantasy IX under the effects of Trance, with all of his spells and abilities shown within, though he may not use Ultima. Additionally, he has access to all of his Brave/HP attacks from Dissidia, though the actual Brave/HP mechanics do not apply.

Sephiroth is as seen in Final Fantasy 7, Crisis Core, Dissidia, Advent Children Complete, and Kingdom Hearts 1&2, with access to all spells, materia, and abilities displayed within. This includes spells/abilities from Safer/Bizzaro Sephiroth, though he may not transform into either of those forms. He may not cast Heartless Angel, FFVII's Supernova, Pale Horse, Stop, or Break.

Nova is as she appears in Starcraft II: Wings of Liberty and Heroes of the Storm, with her cloak behaving as it does in the latter. She only has the talents Advanced Cloaking, Rewind, Psionic Efficiency and Explosive Round, and use of the Heroic Ability Precision Strike. She cannot use Domination.

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Prepare for an all-out 5v5 teamfight! FIGHT!
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@Corrik
@greengravy294

Tagging both leaders in to argue. Got a pre-prepared argument to post as well, so hold on a second!
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Corrik's argument:

My team is defending a stronghold. They have the best sniper in the entire Futuristic World on their side who can cloak. The enemy CANNOT see cloak beyond possibly Mewtwo. Kuja can fly and is in TRANCE to rain offensive spells upon the enemy.

Revan also has Force Sense. Darth Revan's greatest ability is generally accepted to be his utterly peerless mastery over Battle Precognition. Battle Precognition, a variant of Precognition, allowed one to sense the flows of the Force. It allowed Revan to know where an attack is going to strike or hit him before it happened, allowing him to anticipate and strike or defend against it. Revan skill in this ability was so great he "said to be able to predict the path of wars, of battles, years in advance." The Echani credited this ability of Revan over how he was so successful in warfare, being among the greatest military leaders in galactic history and all. Kreia would later comment, "He did nothing lightly, and his plans often could not been felt for months, or even years after he did them." Additionally, he was able to expand his senses to at least a planetary scale, demonstrated when he was able to able to pinpoint the location of an ancient dark side crypt to its location, the First Spear, across all of the planet Rekkiad.

Which allows him to pinpoint enemies and telepathically let Kuja and Nova know where they are. They have to traverse a large map to our stronghold in which the trees provide no cover from Kujas magic and ability to burn it down, Id's spells, Sephiroth's spells, and Nova's sniping. Most will not even make it to my base before succumbing. We are defending a stronghold against an advancing force with supreme ranged advantages, Revan's ability to sense the enemy locations, and Revan's master strategist and tactician abilities leading the defense.
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Dante duos

lol
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Nova invisible sniper them all in the face dead RIP

She's not wearing clown shoes and she isn't shooting Nerf darts

and the rest of the team defends/distracts the psychic
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Kanz explain sanctuary to me.
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Alright so emotionless, not fucking around Dante is bad enough. Give the guy 10% an extra 10% of parameters...well...

Anyway a short list of neat stuff my team can do:

Sorey has a skillset of Dante's, so he's pretty much a melee beast with him.

Shulk has great real time party buffs with the Monado -- Monado Shield is a huge defense/magic defense buff for 15s (negates 75% damage), Monado Speed makes someone quicker (and is in a cutscene early on saving Sharla's ass from dying). He also has premonition which is awesome. Short example of the Sharla scene: https://youtu.be/ZfdHEcywkJY?t=32

Yuri in his Neo Amon form crushes some holy dude, or so I presume, and his barrier and blows up a fucking flying ship. He also tanks gun fire and laughs at it in the same cutscene. (https://youtu.be/kfPd-uF9j7k?t=80) Even if Trance Kuja's operating at full ability (which is very unlikely!) Yuri can just fly in Neo Amon form and punch the fucker in the face.

Moreover, Yuri's other fusions give basically every buffing ability under the sun. On this map, buffing is fairly easy to do considering...well, it's covered in woods and stuff. Attack bonuses, defense bonuses, and so on. (http://shadowhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Fusion#Shadow_Hearts) Basically each of his 6 elemental final fusion has buffs and such. Fides' Rage for instance gives a party member an attack buff.

Now Neo Amon is a beast. He has full HP and revive (Mind/Body Revival) (could be wrong here hard to find data on THIS one). He has Demon Rays which basically shoots beams from his eyes. Also he has plenty of nukes like Die Scumbag (https://youtu.be/_0hDOg7FFzU?t=569)

Mewtwo has nice psychic abilities and the ability to fly around, also Sunny Day + Solar Beam to shoot...solar beams without any charge time.

Charlotte has some nice buffing abilities too! A fully charged ALL Boost affects all normal parameters (Strength, intelligence, mind, luck, constitution) for a minute, so dropping this spell in the backlines as it affects the entire party probably lasts the entire match. (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Spell)


Also the enemy team is uh 3/5ths significantly nerfed from Sanctuary from Charlotte, meaning they're not fighting at peak potential. Bye bye Trance Kuja and crazy Fei Fong Wong ego.
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also Shulk can see the future which is good against invisible snipers @banananor if you'd like to take this into consideration since i got to post my argument now
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Revan can see the future as well it all is kind of a mess that balances out
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You can give your team whatever numbers and whatever parameters. 10% more parameters to being shot in the face is a death with a skull littering the field. You have no cover. You have no hiding. You have a fiery rain of spells with a cloaked sniper mercilessly raining shots. With the a great tactician and mastermind with precog leading the defense.

If you even get to the base, it would be a surprise. You ran into a perfect team of range to counter you.
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Is Corrik arguing a precog battle with Shulk.

Uh oh.
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greengravy294 posted...

also Shulk can see the future which is good against invisible snipers @banananor if you'd like to take this into consideration since i got to post my argument now

Shulk cannot telepathically point out shots to teammates beforehand. He has to be in shout range and grouping up for all these spells raining on you is very bad for yo and makes easier snipe targets.
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He doesn't need to, he can shield them.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Is Corrik arguing a precog battle with Shulk.

Uh oh.

Revan can see YEARS in advance.
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Considering Shulk has near instantaneous Monado arts to either speed up (Speed), shield (Shield), or erect a defensive barrier (Armor) -- yeah sure he can make an impact. without speaking either.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Kanz explain sanctuary to me.

It can strip away powers derived from villainy and/or being undead. So like if it hits Dracula he's turbonerfed. It's up for grabs if it does anything at all to Id or Kuja - Seph I am positive doesn't give a fuck cause none of his stuff cares about his moral state.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

He doesn't need to, he can shield them.

Chris you can put your anti vote and move along. Literally arguing shulo would group up with teammates and shield them from sniper bullets flares meteors and big bangs.
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Hm. I am a bit confused why this was used.

Gravy, what was the point behind using sanctuary?
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kuja and id as far as i'm concerned are turbonerfed

sephiroth i dont actually know much about his backstory besides jenova or whatever
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It also prevents ability usage by anyone affected

Also yes, Revan precog > Shulk's in a bunch of ways, even if it's worse in others. Jedi foresight is the real deal. Kreia (Revan's mentor, AKA the one he learned this shit from) predicts the death of Jango Fett at the hands of Mace Windu 4000 years in the past while talking with Canderous Ordo, one of his ancestors. What happens when two precognitives who are so powerful meet is a fun, open question.
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Id shulk saw the future and thought that was his best option then lol at his great precog.
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nullifies abilities from being used by villainous and undead mercs (scorpion/wesker for instance) which is pretty good in my book when you have two dantes hitting the field
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

Also yes, Revan precog > Shulk's in a bunch of ways, even if it's worse in others. Jedi foresight is the real deal. Kreia (Revan's mentor, AKA the one he learned this shit from) predicts the death of Jango Fett at the hands of Mace Windu 4000 years in the past while talking with Canderous Ordo, one of his ancestors. What happens when two precognitives who are so powerful meet is a fun, open question.

I believe Shulk's is more handy in a combat sense even if the Jedi stuff is HELLA COOL.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Hm. I am a bit confused why this was used.

Gravy, what was the point behind using sanctuary?

It can potentially nerf Id depending on whether you think making him less villainous causes him to revert to Fei (and if so, whether end of Xenogears Fei who has fused all his personalities is more jabroni than Id - I personally feel they're about even, mostly Fei is less ruthless while Id does not fuck around). Kuja IDK, his trance is artificial so it's sorta foggy.
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But that's Revan's teacher. What's an example of Revan himself precog-ing something?

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Hm. I am a bit confused why this was used.

Gravy, what was the point behind using sanctuary?

He wanted to stop scorpion pulls and seph abilities etc. I was always using no abilities and countering him with range however.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Also yes, Revan precog > Shulk's in a bunch of ways, even if it's worse in others. Jedi foresight is the real deal. Kreia (Revan's mentor, AKA the one he learned this shit from) predicts the death of Jango Fett at the hands of Mace Windu 4000 years in the past while talking with Canderous Ordo, one of his ancestors. What happens when two precognitives who are so powerful meet is a fun, open question.

I believe Shulk's is more handy in a combat sense even if the Jedi stuff is HELLA COOL.

It's definitely harder to use in a teamwide sense (Revan's that is). But the dude is a master strategist and if anybody can find a way around Shulk's precog hax without straight up mindreading him, he's the one.
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Revan also has Force Sense. Darth Revan's greatest ability is generally accepted to be his utterly peerless mastery over Battle Precognition. Battle Precognition, a variant of Precognition, allowed one to sense the flows of the Force. It allowed Revan to know where an attack is going to strike or hit him before it happened, allowing him to anticipate and strike or defend against it. Revan skill in this ability was so great he "said to be able to predict the path of wars, of battles, years in advance." The Echani credited this ability of Revan over how he was so successful in warfare, being among the greatest military leaders in galactic history and all. Kreia would later comment, "He did nothing lightly, and his plans often could not been felt for months, or even years after he did them." Additionally, he was able to expand his senses to at least a planetary scale, demonstrated when he was able to able to pinpoint the location of an ancient dark side crypt to its location, the First Spear, across all of the planet Rekkiad.
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Wow, already with the wiki dumps

Skyridge87 posted...

But that's Revan's teacher. What's an example of Revan himself precog-ing something?

Corrik has the deets on that, but as I recall Revan predicted the galaxy would need to prepare for the arrival of the Old Sith Empire (the fuckasses from TOR) years and years in advance, and that's why he set about doing what he did with getting the republic into a state of galactic military readiness. He probably also has some combat precog showings in comics and novels too (and has the Force Sense ability which is listed above as part of his mandatory feats in Kotor). I'll see if I can find anything.
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Skyridge87 posted...

Wow, already with the wiki dumps

Opening argument answered ur question and was pertinent to the teams effort
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okay so it doesn't matter at all for this match, but I just wanted to point out how garbage Mewtwo's build is for combat

he's explicitly limited to his Pokken form, which is an absurd downgrade from the regular Pokemon games. like, regular Mewtwo can destroy a Pikachu in two seconds flat. Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken can straight up lose to a Pikachu, and even if he wins it's probably going to be after a hard-fought battle of a couple minutes.

I know he gets some of his X/Y moves, but it's as if you put "Samus is as she appears in SSBM. She additionally has her ____, ____, and ____ from the Metroid series" why would you even do this
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Hmmm....

Yeah this is a bad matchup.

Team Revan

I think the terrain advantage is enough here for Revan's team to take advantage. I have major respect for just about every member of Gravy's team but Corrik's team here is incredibly loaded and I don't think this sanctuary spell has any meaningful nerfs to Corrik's team, since I buy Fei and Id being pretty close and Kuja's power doesn't come from villainy so much as strong emotions and I don't think Kuja's emotions are connected to his villainy in that particular way.

I think Shulk's precog is better than Revan's but it also has to do a lot more. Monado Shield is legit as all hell but the force being slammed against it here at range is incredible. If Gravy's team got its hands on the other team it would be a slaughter in melee, but there are a lot of ranged options on the other side and enough melee skills that they can hang for a bit with that much range bearing down.

Only hesitation is Sorey'd Dante with Monado speed and a bunch of other speed buffs just completely dodging everything in hilarious fashion but my Kuja/Revan respect is a bit too high for that.

Lots of power going on in this match. Like, a lot of power. Heavy respect to both sides, but terrain tips it I am pretty sure.
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because shadow mewtwo has a battle animation where he destroys the world obv

worldbuster mewtwo CLEARLY superior to normal mewtwo!!!!
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also armatization is basically a fusion of sorts. sorey + dante's combined powers, with dante's actual ability? thats like even better than 110% dante

especially since Sorey's in control of the body so Dante can't just derp around and eat pizza mid fight
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Drakeryn posted...

okay so it doesn't matter at all for this match, but I just wanted to point out how garbage Mewtwo's build is for combat

he's explicitly limited to his Pokken form, which is an absurd downgrade from the regular Pokemon games. like, regular Mewtwo can destroy a Pikachu in two seconds flat. Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken can straight up lose to a Pikachu, and even if he wins it's probably going to be after a hard-fought battle of a couple minutes.

I know he gets some of his X/Y moves, but it's as if you put "Samus is as she appears in SSBM. She additionally has her ____, ____, and ____ from the Metroid series" why would you even do this

I think it is fair to think of Mewtwo as 'Mewtwo' honestly. If anything pokken pikachu is a 5 a day, or somesuch. Can't take the gameplay that literally.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

I think it is fair to think of Mewtwo as 'Mewtwo' honestly.

I would if it were like 'Mewtwo is as he appears in X/Y and Pokken Tournament' because then I can just go with canon

but as-is, I dunno. I guess it's possible that Pikachu is just megabuff (why is he still 2/day then)
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Dante controlled by Mewtwo can't get to Smokin' Sick Style!!! and so his overall dps is lower.
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Drakeryn posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I think it is fair to think of Mewtwo as 'Mewtwo' honestly.

I would if it were like 'Mewtwo is as he appears in X/Y and Pokken Tournament' because then I can just go with canon

but as-is, I dunno. I guess it's possible that Pikachu is just megabuff (why is he still 2/day then)

I mean there are cut scenes in Pokken where Mewtwo is treated appropriately so...
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So basically this match is like this for me:

-Dual Dantes are super scary. Like SUPER fucking scary. Especially when one is 10% boosted and merciless and the other is boosted MORE THAN THAT and gains extra abilities (and probably a five yard long Rebellion) from fusing with Sorey. I know everyone knows Dante, but seriously, this vid is worth looking at to remember just how crazy he is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SopZtjWzl18
-Mewtwo is a weakpoint of his team. If he dies, one Dante goes berserk and becomes a nuisance.
-Yuri and Shulk are super legit. Totally possible Shulk's precog trumps Revan's and then scary things happen.
-Id is probably a little nerfed by becoming endgame Fei. Kuja IDK. FF9 lovers, any thoughts?
-Seph offers a buffz advantage. Can't discount having long lasting protect/shell/haste. Id buffs attack power too, IIRC?
-Nova is super scary IF Shulk doesn't obsolete her. She blows up bigass fucking gunships with her standard shots, and the ones she has here explode and deal their damage in an AoE. Really not a joke.

Leaning pretty strongly in favor of double dantes here. I'm just thinking 'who the fuck checks them' and it's hard to find anybody even with the buff advantage Seph and Id. Basically the way Team Revan can overcome is Kuja killing Mewtwo and then retreating. But that's not easy in the slightest.
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Team Shulk.

Yeah, Revan does not remotely match Shulk's monado powers. Shulk's visions override the providence of the creator god of their universe, who likewise has his own visions. Like it's literally a battle mechanic that he has visions and you overwrite them with your own. Besides that, Dante!Sorey, NotVergil, Yuri, and Mewtwo flat out overpower the other team, nevermind Jonathan, Charlotte, and Mikleo.

Drakeryn posted...

okay so it doesn't matter at all for this match, but I just wanted to point out how garbage Mewtwo's build is for combat

he's explicitly limited to his Pokken form, which is an absurd downgrade from the regular Pokemon games. like, regular Mewtwo can destroy a Pikachu in two seconds flat. Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken can straight up lose to a Pikachu, and even if he wins it's probably going to be after a hard-fought battle of a couple minutes.

I know he gets some of his X/Y moves, but it's as if you put "Samus is as she appears in SSBM. She additionally has her ____, ____, and ____ from the Metroid series" why would you even do this

His Shadow Mewtwo boss form actually instantly wins most of the fights you have against him. Even the final one where you weaken him with a synergy stone, he's got like x10 the health of any other pokemon and does more than twice the damage. >_>

While regular Mewtwo's only plot showing is a mild fire to a mansion on Cinnabar Island.
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Dodging gunfire from a Terran soldier at very close range, due realize the Terran rifle fires very fast, and are heavy rounds as well,

Aiming skills and while under pressure as well against fast moving zerg,

Banelings could cause tremendous damage. Without long-range tank fire, the marines were vulnerable. She had to take the aliens out before they could reach the troops. She sighted carefully with her rifle and fired, teeking each round to its target.The banelings exploded one by one,bursting against the rocky ground and spraying acid across the backs of the nearby zerg.It was time for a closer look. Nova leaps over a crevice in the rock and entered the fray, her C-20A laying waste to the smaller zerglings as she teeked each round to the most vulnerable parts of their anatomy.

-Starcraft Ghost: Spectre
Again, ghosts and Spectres( rogue ghosts ) don't have a problem dodging high velocity rounds fired from guns as shown down below, Nova is considered one of thee bests ghosts in the SC universe, furthermore she show some agile movements as well.

She did a neat flip and landed lightly on her feet. As the lights came on again, temporarily blinding the soldiers, Mal gave her the distraction she needed. He rushed out of the cell with the needler blazing, rounds piercing the marines’ armor and punching through the flesh of the unarmed. Several more men went down, and Nova fried the brains of the last marines with a focused mental push.Both of the spectres broke their concentration for a split second, and that was enough.Nova found a gap between their psychic fingers and pushed her way in.The first spectre shuddered and dropped without a sound, bleeding from the eyes. She whirled. The second one, a taller man with a shock of prematurely white hair, cried out. Mal zeroed in on the sound and fired the needler. Normally, a properly trained psionic assassin would have little trouble evading the rounds, but Nova’s mind had weakened the spectre enough to distract his attention. He took the rounds square in the chest, blood flowers blooming across his black suit as he fell.

-Starcraft Ghost: Spectre

As soon as she felt cliff nadaner's mind, Nova knew that she could destroy her family's murderer with but a thought.

-StarCraft Ghost: Nova
Being able to use her TP to hear someone very far away,

Soon, she reached the dead zone. She could hear Nadaner's thoughts as clearly as if he'd been whispering in her ear.

-StarCraft Ghost: Nova

It is important to note that Nova herself is a huge telepath. And is able to weaken the strongest of psionic minds with her own.
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I think arguing Mewtwo shouldn't be Pokken Mewtwo because it can lose to Pikachu in gameplay is like saying Akuma shouldn't be from Street Fighter because he can lose to Dan in gameplay.

Skyridge87 posted...

I think arguing Mewtwo shouldn't be Pokken Mewtwo because it can lose to Pikachu in gameplay is like saying Akuma shouldn't be from Street Fighter because he can lose to Dan in gameplay.

Nah, just make Dan a 5/week. I'm sure there are no problems with doing this
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My dude you'd be better suited posting the gunship bossfight from Covert Ops TBQH

https://youtu.be/pNs2P7gjdXs?t=786

Nova blows up a full gunship basically alone with that rifle. Worth respecting tbqh.
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That is like the slowest, tamest Contra miniboss I've seen in a long time.
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Skyridge87 posted...

I think arguing Mewtwo shouldn't be Pokken Mewtwo because it can lose to Pikachu in gameplay is like saying Akuma shouldn't be from Street Fighter because he can lose to Dan in gameplay.

tbh I have trouble with Akuma respect because of this

there's such a wide disparity in his showings. one moment he's sinking an island with a single punch, next moment he's struggling against Dan. I don't feel it's fair to discount either of those but then it leaves me with a big ???
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KJH posted...

That is like the slowest, tamest Contra miniboss I've seen in a long time.

Your disrespect for starcraft is noted, but it still doesn't undermine the point that Nova's rifle blows up a gunship in a universe where that shit doesn't happen canonically without lore backing (in this case, that Nova's psionically infused bullets are seriously hax and can pierce through whole buildings).
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