Board 8 > turbopuns mafia topic 2: these are energy puns

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benjamin3740 posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

He's not the exact same. In that game he bussed the hell out of you guys. We don't know if he is bussing yet though. However, you cannot play the same game every time. The thing that bothers me is the activity and the overall type of activity. He's always in here but what has he really offered. That is what reminds me of his Chrono Cross game.

I confirmed 4 towns man ):

Or at least I think my reasoning is pretty strong

I really don't think you have.
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DO WE have archive from CC? Ben was scum and I was town and I don't think Ben backed my crazy vanilla theories at all.
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speak of the nandevil

and I was hoping to find those myself all day
but I didnt have the luck
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Screw it.

##Unvote
##Vote: Chris

I don't want to wait until day 3 until we start deciding to take Chris seriously because he hasn't died yet. Chris has seriously coasted today and I don't like anything he's been saying.
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I was once crucified as scum for saying confirmed town about the other players. If you are truly town I would avoid those words unless there are actions ACTUALLY confirming town.
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Chris really seems to be relying on the fear and hardly anyone is talking about him. It just seems weird. It's not even that people are saying he looks town. They're just content to let it sort itself out. I don't trust them to go through with it.
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If this is me relying on fear when I am just discussing the game then I don't know what to say other than that the ghost of Chris haunts people or something.

Where does that thought even come from.
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eh why not, I am somewhat mollified by Eaeds answers

##Unvote
##Vote: Chris
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There's also this fact that I don't like how quiet things are so close to deadline. Feels like scum is content with today's direction. Makes me want to surprise them.
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and deadline is sooner than usual

80 MINUTES people
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

If this is me relying on fear when I am just discussing the game then I don't know what to say other than that the ghost of Chris haunts people or something.

Where does that thought even come from.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

VeryInsane posted...

I know but I am most likely dying Night One (sounds weird now but it will make sense soon) and it would make me sad to see you run the game.

I probably would have voted you earlier but I want to keep my record voting you perfect. (Ok it was 1 time but yeah)

Me running the game would be excellent considering it is hard to do from the grave.

This post is what made me think it. Seems like you want to cement in people's minds that you'll be shot early so there's no point in discussing.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

I was once crucified as scum for saying confirmed town about the other players. If you are truly town I would avoid those words unless there are actions ACTUALLY confirming town.

Oh I know, people go after me any time I do it. I just end up being right (except for corrik that one time -.- ), and that's all I care about
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htaeD posted...

eh why not, I am somewhat mollified by Eaeds answers

##Unvote
##Vote: Chris

I like it when the scum make the scum case for me.

"eh why not" said the person about the Chris lynch, to the person who has been pushing for his death <_<
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Nana, it won't let me say the name of log site but it is similar this site but replace the game with log and search Chrono Cross mafia.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

There's also this fact that I don't like how quiet things are so close to deadline. Feels like scum is content with today's direction. Makes me want to surprise them.

Wait what's today's direction? Isn't it like tied at 2 between a bunch of people.
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This post is what made me think it. Seems like you want to cement in people's minds that you'll be shot early so there's no point in discussing.

I mean, I played my more mellow, less impactful style in Mercs 4 and was delightfully hopeful it would buy me time but Mzero was still a jerk and shot me night 1. Me dying an early death is mostly destiny at this point.
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benjamin3740 posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

There's also this fact that I don't like how quiet things are so close to deadline. Feels like scum is content with today's direction. Makes me want to surprise them.

Wait what's today's direction? Isn't it like tied at 2 between a bunch of people.

It feels to me like the inevitable end is the lynch of one of the quieter players like pj or MZero because it's just easiest.
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I'm not lynching Chris. I don't feel like he's actively done anything I don't like.
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well I have the unique viewpoint of knowing you're lazily focusing all your time on suspecting a townplayer
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eaedwards6400 posted...

I'm not lynching Chris. I don't feel like he's actively done anything I don't like.

What about the fact that he's calling Ben obvtown when he's the person you're voting for?
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MZero [3] - Brohan, Terra, pjbasis
death [2] - (Sceptile), (VI), Doom, ben
Sceptile [2] - Nana, Gran
Doom [2] - Sceptile, death
Ben [1] - (eaed), (Sceptile), eaed
pjbasis [1] - (Nana), (Terra), Ulti, (Ben)
Terra [1] - MZero
Gran [1] - Leafeon
eaed [0] - (Terra), (death)
Nana [0] - (eaed), (Doom), (Doom), (eaed)
leafeon [0] - (Doom), (MetaKnight)
Ulti [0] - (VI), (Brohan), (MZero)
MetaKnight [0] - (eaed), (Gran)
Brohan [0] - (Terra), (MZero), (MetaKnight)
VI [0] - (eaed)

day ends in about 71 minutes
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So be it.

I am not going to be accused of being fucking lazy by a person who can't seem to shake two brain cells together to perform a cogent discussion point in a mafia game. I have seen you post again and again and offer nothing of substance that matters, you aren't making any impact on this game at all. True I have been busy, but when I have had time I quite clearly laid out why your mindset was not of a town player, and if people want to IGNORE ME then that is on them, not me. I am probably - literally - one of the best ten town players in the entire world based off of the experiences I have had outside of this board, and even when I am off I create impacts that expose things, but when I am in a low activity situation the worst thing people can do is just decide to ignore my points instead of rebuking or discussing them, like they have here.

So no Death, I haven't been lazily doing anything with you. I made my point, it was pushed aside, and when I have had time to post, ie this evening, I have asked people to discuss you because god fucking damnit someone around here needs to learn that players go 'oh I am so helpless, I am bad at mafia, teehee" isn't true sometimes.
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Eaed, you're wrong about Ben. Follow the leader here, my townreading is expert level. You are seeing something that just isn't there. Look back on your mafia experience, look back at mine, and just trust me on this. I can't think of a single game day 1 where the person I like MOST as town turned out to be scum. I can be wrong on some soft town reads but when I see 5 or 6 cross referencing points all adding up to town my town hunting methods outclass anyone I have ever played the game with, and I have been around the block. Eaed, please take a look at my point about Death's mindset and also his defense of it. Does that seem townie to you? Why?
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htaeD posted...

well I have the unique viewpoint of knowing you're lazily focusing all your time on suspecting a townplayer

I love "I know I'm town so you must be scum," arguments. Shame Geno or Bob aren't in this game to make sense making them.
##Unvote: Sceptile
##Vote: death
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Scept, you and I always seem to run into miscommunication issues every time we step into a game so let's get something straight. I have a gallows humor about mafia because, and let's not try to twist this into some evil strategy on my part, I die a lot night 1. Like, 70% of the time a lot. I've learned to cope with the fact that the game I enjoy playing is cut so very short by laughing in the face of death (also Death) and so when someone tells me I am going to be able to run a game I am going to point out that no, no I am not. I am never allowed to run a game. Except one time off site like 2 years ago it was called Predator mafia and the mafia refused to kill me out of pride. I won Town Player of the Year award on the forum that year and that game was labeled the best town performance by a singular player in me. The point is when I live scum tend to die, so of course I am dying. You see this mystical fear mongering but it's like no dude, I am going to die early because my name is Chris and that's just what happens. Feel free to talk about me all you want, it's a good thing, but let's not act as if my own demise being discussed by me is new, relevant, or in any way dependent on my role PM.
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first of all, way to be rude

secondly, I tried to be civil here and discuss your argument against me and even quoted it again for you
I even stated that it was notable that everyone was ignoring you

but
you didnt even give it a moments glance and continued your attack on me

that came off to me as lazy, ignoring me back

and I never said 'teehee I am helpless' or whatever. but you have literally seen me make posts like the 'condemnable one' before in the past. so until you went overboard just now, that was about all I saw of your suspicion on me
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That's not true at all. I read your post but I didn't think it was a good defense.

I have seen you make posts like that.

In Game of Thrones mafia.

When I lynched you day 1. Or maybe you were day vigged. One of the two!
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GranAures posted...

htaeD posted...

well I have the unique viewpoint of knowing you're lazily focusing all your time on suspecting a townplayer

I love "I know I'm town so you must be scum," arguments. Shame Geno or Bob aren't in this game to make sense making them.
##Unvote: Sceptile
##Vote: death

that was more a direct response to his post
not me explaining why I was voting Chris
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Also let's MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR.

My name is Sir FREAKIN' Chris. (See: Seth Rollins)

You want to call me scum? Fine, it's a game, okay.

You want to say I am not as active as I used to be? Factual statement.

You want to call me lazy I'll rip your heart out of your fucking European chest and feed it to you.
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Chris, if I follow you I become the biggest hypocrite since the B8 revivals because I yelled and shouted about PJ being scum for following Corrik. Chris, I understand you're good. However, I will follow my own thoughts. Always.
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Chris. This kind having a tantrum doesn't make you look better. You aren't even the lynch leader.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Chris, if I follow you I become the biggest hypocrite since the B8 revivals because I yelled and shouted about PJ being scum for following Corrik. Chris, I understand you're good. However, I will follow my own thoughts. Always.

First rule of mafia (or maybe like 9th) is that context is key! There are very few universal rules.

Ben has been genuinely naive a few times though, don't think that's something that he can fake.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Scept, you and I always seem to run into miscommunication issues every time we step into a game so let's get something straight. I have a gallows humor about mafia because, and let's not try to twist this into some evil strategy on my part, I die a lot night 1. Like, 70% of the time a lot. I've learned to cope with the fact that the game I enjoy playing is cut so very short by laughing in the face of death (also Death) and so when someone tells me I am going to be able to run a game I am going to point out that no, no I am not. I am never allowed to run a game. Except one time off site like 2 years ago it was called Predator mafia and the mafia refused to kill me out of pride. I won Town Player of the Year award on the forum that year and that game was labeled the best town performance by a singular player in me. The point is when I live scum tend to die, so of course I am dying. You see this mystical fear mongering but it's like no dude, I am going to die early because my name is Chris and that's just what happens. Feel free to talk about me all you want, it's a good thing, but let's not act as if my own demise being discussed by me is new, relevant, or in any way dependent on my role PM.

It is more that hoping that scum will sort you out seems like an insanely lazy way to approach the game. I appreciate you putting more effort into your words, though.

One thing that occurred to me. If you think you'll die early, I would really expect you to be thinking past day 1. It doesn't necessarily seem like you've done that.
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I really want to lynch Sceptile. DOdnt realize Day ended at 9:00
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Chris. This kind having a tantrum doesn't make you look better. You aren't even the lynch leader.

Lynches happen, I am not going to be called lazy. I think people need to remember what kind of monster I am sometimes. I try to be docile, to be mellow, and I get that type of lip? Nope. Not going to have it.

Remember that board 8 mafia became more civilized because I demanded it become more civilized because I WAS THE BIGGEST FUCKING DICK EVER.

I made Ulti look like Ed Bellis.

I am just saying... if we want Chris to be nice Chris, don't call him lazy.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

That's not true at all. I read your post but I didn't think it was a good defense.

I have seen you make posts like that.

In Game of Thrones mafia.

When I lynched you day 1. Or maybe you were day vigged. One of the two!

dayvigged

and you should have seen me post like that as town too
its a nultell at best Chris

does this sound familiar too?
every game people keep saying I am a better player than I make myself out to be, and they accuse me of being scum because I dont sound as good as they want me to sound
surprise, surprise, I turned out to be town those times
you were one of those players and this happened a lot more recently than GOT 1
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

eaedwards6400 posted...

Chris, if I follow you I become the biggest hypocrite since the B8 revivals because I yelled and shouted about PJ being scum for following Corrik. Chris, I understand you're good. However, I will follow my own thoughts. Always.

First rule of mafia (or maybe like 9th) is that context is key! There are very few universal rules.

Ben has been genuinely naive a few times though, don't think that's something that he can fake.

Except he is like me and always looks naive! I've seen him in three games!
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Chris, stop making this personal
I am not even the only one who has felt you were 'holding back' this day
allthough I am sure you will call that deflection
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Sceptilesolar posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Scept, you and I always seem to run into miscommunication issues every time we step into a game so let's get something straight. I have a gallows humor about mafia because, and let's not try to twist this into some evil strategy on my part, I die a lot night 1. Like, 70% of the time a lot. I've learned to cope with the fact that the game I enjoy playing is cut so very short by laughing in the face of death (also Death) and so when someone tells me I am going to be able to run a game I am going to point out that no, no I am not. I am never allowed to run a game. Except one time off site like 2 years ago it was called Predator mafia and the mafia refused to kill me out of pride. I won Town Player of the Year award on the forum that year and that game was labeled the best town performance by a singular player in me. The point is when I live scum tend to die, so of course I am dying. You see this mystical fear mongering but it's like no dude, I am going to die early because my name is Chris and that's just what happens. Feel free to talk about me all you want, it's a good thing, but let's not act as if my own demise being discussed by me is new, relevant, or in any way dependent on my role PM.

It is more that hoping that scum will sort you out seems like an insanely lazy way to approach the game. I appreciate you putting more effort into your words, though.

One thing that occurred to me. If you think you'll die early, I would really expect you to be thinking past day 1. It doesn't necessarily seem like you've done that.

I suck on day 1s compared to every other game day, which is why killing me early is really effective. Sure I'll have good ideas day 1 but I am very much an information based player. When I get flips to back up my thoughts and roles to play with I am fucking deadly. The vagueness of day 1s don't really let me forecast very well. You can check my history at any point, I don't tend to roll forward on day 1s, but mostly when it is day 2 or 3 if I live I like to structure stuff. Day 1 is a crap shoot for me. Even this Death lynch I am not super certain on, although that laughable vote on me makes me feel hopeful.
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htaeD posted...

Chris, stop making this personal
I am not even the only one who has felt you were 'holding back' this day
allthough I am sure you will call that deflection

The only person who said something similar to 'lazy' that I have seen was red and I got right in his face too.
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I'm not going to repeat last game by missing out on EOD again. From what I gathered since my last post, not entirely much happened. Felt like a lot of smaller disputes, but there really wasn't a major shift in votes or anything, and some players who have been absent most of the day have made an appearance but haven't added much.

I'm okay with an MZero lynch, but honestly I hate who's on the vote with me. Brohan hasn't done much and he's mostly a null read for me since I don't recall playing with him (only notable thing he's done has been deflecting). And pj's vote feels incredibly lazy and outside of defending MZero all he's done is state basic thoughts on what he was reading as he was catching up.

Personally, if not MZero I could go for an EAEdward lynch or Sceptile. I'm against the Death vote since I don't agree that any of the arguments posed against him are all that solid.
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but fine, for the sake of politeness
I will retract the use of the word 'lazy'
but I cant immediately come up with a good alternative for the kind of behavior that allows a player to just not talk back to the person he is accusing until he gets mad at him
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

htaeD posted...

Chris, stop making this personal
I am not even the only one who has felt you were 'holding back' this day
allthough I am sure you will call that deflection

The only person who said something similar to 'lazy' that I have seen was red and I got right in his face too.

you didnt make threats at him though
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Death this is... seriously reminding me of GoT now.

So I will repeat myself from there: my job isn't to convince you that you're scum.

It's to convince the town <_<
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htaeD posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

htaeD posted...

Chris, stop making this personal
I am not even the only one who has felt you were 'holding back' this day
allthough I am sure you will call that deflection

The only person who said something similar to 'lazy' that I have seen was red and I got right in his face too.

you didnt make threats at him though

I threatened to lynch him.
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Terra, catch up and tell me what you think of Chris.
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and I am not allowed to convince you that I am town?
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I also meant to mention that I don't like this Chris guy either. Does anyone know if that meltdown he had is characteristic of him? Because that sure was something.
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Every post you make can be an effort to do that, but I read your post I just wasn't impressed by it.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

htaeD posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

htaeD posted...

Chris, stop making this personal
I am not even the only one who has felt you were 'holding back' this day
allthough I am sure you will call that deflection

The only person who said something similar to 'lazy' that I have seen was red and I got right in his face too.

you didnt make threats at him though

I threatened to lynch him.

not the same as threatening to tear out my guts! (I know you arent serious, but still.. )
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