Board 8 > turbopuns mafia topic 3: 400 babies

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Meta_Knight123 posted...

I called sceptile and Red scum all day. I was fine with either of you dying. That being said if were doing a mass claim I'd rather some others claim first so I can maybe get a confirmed town out of my backup.

Uh. Weren't you Ninja? or was that someone else? I don't think that is going to happen if so.
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benjamin3740 posted...

I feel a lot better about Sceptile after the claim. Figured he was either that role or scum, since it fits with his behavior at the start of the day. If he's the only cop in the game then I totally believe him. (And I doubt scum would claim cop like this if they saw a possible counterclaim happening)

If Scept is Town and Death is Scum, I actually think there's a high chance Chris is scum.

I highly doubt town would have what amounts to two 1 shot cops that would be forced to target the same player N1 without having an extra scan floating around somewhere.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

Meta_Knight123 posted...

I called sceptile and Red scum all day. I was fine with either of you dying. That being said if were doing a mass claim I'd rather some others claim first so I can maybe get a confirmed town out of my backup.

Uh. Weren't you Ninja? or was that someone else? I don't think that is going to happen if so.

Nero was Backup ninja (without or without prior ability)
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GranAures posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I feel a lot better about Sceptile after the claim. Figured he was either that role or scum, since it fits with his behavior at the start of the day. If he's the only cop in the game then I totally believe him. (And I doubt scum would claim cop like this if they saw a possible counterclaim happening)

If Scept is Town and Death is Scum, I actually think there's a high chance Chris is scum.

I highly doubt town would have what amounts to two 1 shot cops that would be forced to target the same player N1 without having an extra scan floating around somewhere.

We had at least one, before he killed himself.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

##Vote: Chris

Why do tomorrow what you can do today?

This lynch train is going to end hilariously.
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Chris what do you think of

Brohan
Terra
eaed (know we covered this earlier but for a purpose)
MZero
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eaedwards6400 posted...

GranAures posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

But really I felt nothing towny about those votes. Sure you "liked mzero more than those guys", but you spent the end of the day explaining why Chris and Nana were scum, and Eaed and Red basically became "well better them than me" lynches, which I didn't get a sense you thought were THAT scummy until it was time to change your vote to then

ITP, only scum makes survival votes.

Only scum deals in absolutes

Wasn't that the basics of my post above the one you just quotef?
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Sceptilesolar posted...

GranAures posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I feel a lot better about Sceptile after the claim. Figured he was either that role or scum, since it fits with his behavior at the start of the day. If he's the only cop in the game then I totally believe him. (And I doubt scum would claim cop like this if they saw a possible counterclaim happening)

If Scept is Town and Death is Scum, I actually think there's a high chance Chris is scum.

I highly doubt town would have what amounts to two 1 shot cops that would be forced to target the same player N1 without having an extra scan floating around somewhere.

We had at least one, before he killed himself.

Well isn't prosty just a glorified motion detector? You might catch someone moving that said they couldn't brother than that.
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Brohan is a pretty big blank, and if my memory serves me he usually pisses me off when he is town with his utter nonsense so that's unlikely to be in his favor. Lean scum.
Terra has been incredibly earnest and I have no reason to not think he is genuinely town. I've just liked his reactions to things.
Eaed is town, I was playing around last night to get reactions from others but that seems to have fallen flat.
No real clue about Mzero, haven't paid him much mind beyond thinking how the lynch wagons could have been effected depending on his alignment.
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GranAures posted...

Sceptilesolar posted...

GranAures posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

I feel a lot better about Sceptile after the claim. Figured he was either that role or scum, since it fits with his behavior at the start of the day. If he's the only cop in the game then I totally believe him. (And I doubt scum would claim cop like this if they saw a possible counterclaim happening)

If Scept is Town and Death is Scum, I actually think there's a high chance Chris is scum.

I highly doubt town would have what amounts to two 1 shot cops that would be forced to target the same player N1 without having an extra scan floating around somewhere.

We had at least one, before he killed himself.

Well isn't prosty just a glorified motion detector? You might catch someone moving that said they couldn't brother than that.

That's what I meant, it's an investigative role that doesn't run into the N1 pileup.
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Brohan really needs to step it up. I know he likes to joke and play it casual, but I'm not getting a 'casual' feel from his posts, but more like 'zero motivation'. Does he have any suspects at all?
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If he's scum he can feel free to be this way though.
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Sceptilesolar posted...

Meta_Knight123 posted...

I called sceptile and Red scum all day. I was fine with either of you dying. That being said if were doing a mass claim I'd rather some others claim first so I can maybe get a confirmed town out of my backup.

Uh. Weren't you Ninja? or was that someone else? I don't think that is going to happen if so.

Someone else was ninja IIRC it was MZero. I think your more on the towny side atm.
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If Chris is scum I think it reflects quite badly on MZero (or vice-versa). He was looking like the most likely lynch yesterday before the time of the red train.
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The reason I brought them up was we talked a lot about the red lynch today yet we didn't really focus on the other dude
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leafeon [6] - (Doom), (MetaKnight), Doom, Sceptile, death, (eaed), MetaKnight, mzero, Gran
MZero [4] - Brohan, (Terra), pjbasis, Terra, eaed
death [1] - (Sceptile), (VI), (Doom), (ben), (Gran), ben, (eaed)
pjbasis [1] - (Nana), (Terra), Ulti, (Ben)
Gran [1] - Leafeon
eaed [1] - (Terra), (death), (Terra), (ben), (mzero), Nana, (death)
Doom [0] - (Sceptile), (death), VI
Sceptile [0] - (Nana), (Gran), (MetaKnight)
Ben [0] - (eaed), (Sceptile), (eaed)
Terra [0] - (MZero)
Nana [0] - (eaed), (Doom), (Doom), (eaed)
Ulti [0] - (VI), (Brohan), (MZero)
MetaKnight [0] - (eaed), (Gran)
Brohan [0] - (Terra), (MZero), (MetaKnight)
VI [0] - (eaed)

@Sceptilesolar The votes back up with what I say., Voted on you red brohan and red again.
Also, i think the worst claim atm is eades because of how he claimed.
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It was weird but I think that's just how the guy is
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Meta_Knight123 posted...

@Sceptilesolar The votes back up with what I say., Voted on you red brohan and red again.
Also, i think the worst claim atm is eades because of how he claimed.

I didn't say you weren't voting for red, just that you did not push all that hard for it. You probably would have hopped on to stay consistent with what you were saying, but could have settled for other lynches too.
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assuming scum could have serials on their side, does take the wind out of Eaed's claim sails
it was a very nice

however the Eaed movement kinda came out of nowhere
meanwhile, Chris was never in any danger
so yeah, Mzero does seem the likeliest scumlynch from that moment, but thats all circumstancial evidence

of the people voting me, I dislike Grans vote the most, I recall it being made with a flimsy reason for the sake of having a reason to vote
Eaed was just acting out of self-preservation and Ben made his grievances clear (even if he did wait too long to move to me.. and his previous target, PJ, turned out to be town)
Gran is also the player I like the least on Reds lynch, closely followed by Chris.

Sceptile seems okay for now and I have liked MK all game
Mzero was also voting to save himself, so thats a nultell
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Sceptilesolar posted...

Meta_Knight123 posted...

@Sceptilesolar The votes back up with what I say., Voted on you red brohan and red again.
Also, i think the worst claim atm is eades because of how he claimed.

I didn't say you weren't voting for red, just that you did not push all that hard for it. You probably would have hopped on to stay consistent with what you were saying, but could have settled for other lynches too.

I think atleast 30-40% of my posts one d1 had to do with red.
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They did not stick with me at all.
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Death, My PJ vote was just trying to get him to claim. He posted literally nothing of substance, so I never had a true read on him Town or scum, and thought claiming would be the solution to figuring out what he is faster before he drifts by. Thought i was making that clear yesterday.

Death, what are your real reasons again for suspecting Chris?
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fair enough on the PJ subject

though, you want my real reasons??
strangely worded request there

my main reason to distrust Chris is paranoia
he is one of few who benefit a lot from a dead Red, and granted he wasnt hiding his plans to want to lynch Red, But I still feel there was more to it, like some grand scheme

its not enough to condemn him, but I do have some level of suspicion around him
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I do find it interesting that multiple people have been like "Hm, Chris benefited from Red dying, how SUSPICIOUS."

Let's parse this through for a moment.

Scum Chris is AFRAID of a Town Red (note: Red didn't even try to lynch me yesterday, he just looked at me strange)

Scum Chris decides to START and then LEAD the lynch wagon on Red in under to DODGE suspicion because Town Red would bring him to ruin.

Scum Chris thinks that by leading a lynch on a member of town who had been critical of him this would be BENEFICIAL in some way.

Okay my point being wtf guys <_<
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well fear is not the right word anyway
more like 'tactical removal'

but like I said, mostly it just makes me wary of you

also that earlier comment you made (either I am making a mistake or I am the best with this red lynch), sounded a bit off as I noted
considering you detest undermined opinions
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Making my ideas simple is not a good way to spit them back out. My entire point with you, Dear Death, was that you asked a question that made it pretty pointless to ask when you go back into your shell at the same time. I was making an observation about the traction of the lynch I was leading. I will, once in awhile, use some observational skills!
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and I sometimes ask questions that are mostly there just so I can hear the player give his response
of course that point is moot now, with PJ being town.. lazy, but town
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But don't tell the player that before he answers, it muddies the water.
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I just didnt want to sound dumb while asking the question
if I have a failing it is that
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You didn't sound dumb, you sounded scum!

Bam, rhyme time.

Okay Death so do you think Mzero is town or scum?
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leaning scum more now than I did yesterday
not just because of the votals, thats just window dressing (and it could just as easily mean Eaed is scum, or it was an all town lynch train)
but the way he started today out does not impress me; asking random questions and backing up suspicions that arent his own (though Brohan is not impressing me either, on that note)

but he did at least notice Grans awful votes, which puts him only at the edge of my suspect list (while Gran is more down there)
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If Mzero is scum the votals matter a lot, as surely someone at the end of that red lynch was doing something nefarious. If he is town then less so, and I'd expect scum to be also found in people not on the big lynches. Which is nana/ben/ulti. Less Ben mind you but yeah, if this is town/town scum wouldn't have really cared to swing it, in theory.
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I might have moved my vote if I was actually home at the end of day one, but I was working.
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Ulti, I want to know... have you ever seen the rain?

At work right now actually, listening to music, playing this game, and entering data on the other screen zzz.
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What are your stances right now anyway, Ulti? You've been super busy and I can relate, but I have no clue what's in that big brain of yours right now.
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Meta_Knight123 posted...

Can people give me reasons independent from your read on a person.

I can make an easy as claim and say I'm something like a serial backup hypno vigi Cop, and with the way you some of you guys have been accepting every claim it would confirm me to that person.

I don't understand the reason vi is getting a pass for claiming something.

That being said, I retract my claim as backup serial hypno vigi cop

This guy is such hilariously obvious town.
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Ulti, I want to know... have you ever seen the rain?

At work right now actually, listening to music, playing this game, and entering data on the other screen zzz.

I just got done working in it! 40 dogs in a big yard in the rain is great.

I have a list in my head but on mobile it's tough. Let me get home and finish my errands up.

The short of it is I think Brohan or Mzero, and possibly both, are scum. Sceptile confuses me and I want to know why he backed off of VI so quickly. I don't think VI is scum, I just want to hear from Sceptile more.
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MZero11 posted...

I would rather not mass claim tbh

Okay we can probably lynch this guy.

Sceptile I saw your unvote post. You're okay with me.
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gonna take a vote here
who wants my claim before I go to bed?
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Meta_Knight123 posted...

I called sceptile and Red scum all day. I was fine with either of you dying. That being said if were doing a mass claim I'd rather some others claim first so I can maybe get a confirmed town out of my backup.

My one fear here is the backup roles not actually confirming anyone. Puns is smart enough to have town's power and town's backups all be different, thus effectively making the backups glorified vanillas.

Say town has no tracker. I then can't confirm anyone.
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htaeD posted...

gonna take a vote here
who wants my claim before I go to bed?

I want your claim immediately.
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The Serial 1 use players are effectively vanillas too
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Except they just target me and make Night One boring
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benjamin3740 posted...

MZero11 posted...

I would rather not mass claim tbh

What for?

gee idk maybe not giving scum a bunch of info for no reason
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I was actually hoping for someone I fully trust to ask me
like VI
nothing personal, Ulti
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I would like it, death
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##Vote: Brohan

Brohan hasn't done anything, everyone seems to agree on this. As has been mentioned I looked like the most likely lynch yesterday, which is probably why he wasn't active around deadline so he could stay on a mislynch. He showed up today and did barely anything even after he was called out.
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very well

Backup Watcher

thats why I reacted rather clearly to Nana's backup miller joke and could follow the Backup talk

knowing that serial 1shots technically also count as vanillas, makes me think there might be too many Backups now and Mzero is my first suspect, since he claimed after Ulti

and I doubt we have a true role for every backup, but it would be nice to think there is an actual watcher out there who saw everyone that visited VI
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ok on reread Brohan did mention he wouldn't be around for deadline, so I'll give him a pass there
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and now there's like 4 unclaimed left
of which I only really like Metaknight, but I dont think we need a massclaim either
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