Board 8 > turbopuns mafia topic 5 (ft. the end of day 2)

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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 9:41:16 PM
#101:


Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
We even can say with a decent amount of certainty that scum wasn't strongmanning past Chris, because any limited use powers have been turned off, including scum's. So it's unlikely something like that exists.


What? How does this make sense?


A lot of the power in this game has been X-Shot, and X-Shot Strongman is really common.


I understand that, but why does this mean they can't have used it?


Because when VI died N2 all X-Shot powers stopped working. So at least from now on they either have to keep Chris permanently roleblocked, try to shoot medium targets like MK who nobody really hated, or shoot him.

We should have another test after today, because scum is going to have to do some thinking about how to deal with me.
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UItimaterializer
05/30/17 9:41:51 PM
#102:


We have ten left, right? If scum has four left, then we could lose on a mislynch. We should be massing.
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UItimaterializer
05/30/17 9:43:14 PM
#103:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
We even can say with a decent amount of certainty that scum wasn't strongmanning past Chris, because any limited use powers have been turned off, including scum's. So it's unlikely something like that exists.


What? How does this make sense?


A lot of the power in this game has been X-Shot, and X-Shot Strongman is really common.


I understand that, but why does this mean they can't have used it?


Because when VI died N2 all X-Shot powers stopped working. So at least from now on they either have to keep Chris permanently roleblocked, try to shoot medium targets like MK who nobody really hated, or shoot him.

We should have another test after today, because scum is going to have to do some thinking about how to deal with me.

It's actually very possible that Ben is a mafia jailkeeper instead of a town one. Jailkeeper, doctor, and MZero all being town in 15 is an absurd amount of protection.
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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 9:43:57 PM
#104:


But his Jailkeeper does nothing. It's a non-role.
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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 9:44:16 PM
#105:


Unless he lied about being 1 shot like I did. Turns out that totally works.
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Nanahara715
05/30/17 9:44:33 PM
#106:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
We even can say with a decent amount of certainty that scum wasn't strongmanning past Chris, because any limited use powers have been turned off, including scum's. So it's unlikely something like that exists.


What? How does this make sense?


A lot of the power in this game has been X-Shot, and X-Shot Strongman is really common.


I understand that, but why does this mean they can't have used it?


Because when VI died N2 all X-Shot powers stopped working. So at least from now on they either have to keep Chris permanently roleblocked, try to shoot medium targets like MK who nobody really hated, or shoot him.

We should have another test after today, because scum is going to have to do some thinking about how to deal with me.


Yes, but if they had an Xuse Strongman they could have shot VI. So I don't understand your "How did VI die" spiel.

Regardless, if Chris is town, isn't the optimum kill[pritection target?] Eaed? Why aren't we talking about him claiming to be a backup to Chris?
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UItimaterializer
05/30/17 9:44:53 PM
#107:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Unless he lied about being 1 shot like I did. Turns out that totally works.

Exactly.
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MZero11
05/30/17 9:46:08 PM
#108:


actually that's a good point... eaed is looking suspicious as well
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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 9:46:42 PM
#109:


Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
We even can say with a decent amount of certainty that scum wasn't strongmanning past Chris, because any limited use powers have been turned off, including scum's. So it's unlikely something like that exists.


What? How does this make sense?


A lot of the power in this game has been X-Shot, and X-Shot Strongman is really common.


I understand that, but why does this mean they can't have used it?


Because when VI died N2 all X-Shot powers stopped working. So at least from now on they either have to keep Chris permanently roleblocked, try to shoot medium targets like MK who nobody really hated, or shoot him.

We should have another test after today, because scum is going to have to do some thinking about how to deal with me.


Yes, but if they had an Xuse Strongman they could have shot VI. So I don't understand your "How did VI die" spiel.

Regardless, if Chris is town, isn't the optimum kill[pritection target?] Eaed? Why aren't we talking about him claiming to be a backup to Chris?


That is true, but if Chris isn't town, then scum knows that eaed's power does nothing.
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eaedwards6400
05/30/17 9:53:56 PM
#110:


I don't love that Chris is still alive. This is complete and total meta but if there is a b8er on that scum team they would have killed Chris immediately after VI. If not before.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 9:54:57 PM
#112:


One moment please.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 9:57:07 PM
#113:


Right okay so I tried to save VI night 2 but was roleblocked by Ben by the way I am backup psychic serial doctor + backup psychic what a great fucking role.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 9:57:34 PM
#114:


##vote: Ben

Sorry a bit sick, fucked up my syntax.

Ben please try to deny this, let's have some PROPER FUCKING FUN
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 9:59:36 PM
#116:


So I am guessing scum thought it clever to leave me alive to bring TERRIBLE SUSPICION UPON ME by the way I saved sceptile last night.
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eaedwards6400
05/30/17 10:00:09 PM
#117:


Also, I'm a nurse calling it a backup doctor is kind of unnecessary.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:01:15 PM
#118:


WAKE UP BEN, THE DOCTOR WILL SEE YOU NOW.

I always wanted to say that.
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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 10:01:44 PM
#119:


backup psychic serial doctor seems kind of absurd, but either way I feel like N4 will be more interesting for clarifying things
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:02:12 PM
#120:


If you think about it I am the insurance plan in case the princess is stupid.
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eaedwards6400
05/30/17 10:02:42 PM
#121:


I'm game.

##Vote: Ben

I have wanted him dead since day 1.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:03:18 PM
#122:


I am PUMPED by the way because I saved my boy VI and it was great and amazing and then I saw ben had targeted me (the only one btw) and I was roleblocked and I was PRAYING TO FUCKING GOD THE MAFIA WERE STUPID.

Also good job Ben, you had me totally fooled holy shit.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:04:59 PM
#123:


I am sorry I got to live my life long enough to be a psychic doctor who saw the dude who roleblocked him, this game is a train wreck but it is AMAZING.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:09:51 PM
#125:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Someone needs to explain to me in what universe VI dies N2 if Chris is actually doctor.


Also hello.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:10:57 PM
#126:


I didn't even read the topic before posting but I just saw that.

COME ON BEN, WAKEY WAKEY. THE DOCTOR IS WAITING FOR YOU ON THE FIELDS OF TRENZALORE

You never tell me the rules!
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eaedwards6400
05/30/17 10:14:24 PM
#127:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Let's hypothetically say eaed is right and scum has no B8 players on it. Nana, Ben, and who else?

Gran? Brohan?


Isn't Brohan B8?
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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 10:16:03 PM
#128:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Someone needs to explain to me in what universe VI dies N2 if Chris is actually doctor.


Also hello.


Okay. I am putting you on notice because your claim is testable simply by lynching Ben.
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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 10:17:14 PM
#129:


Also, I wanted to say this about the Terra lynch, but I kind of think Terra's claim was so bad that I'm almost more suspicious of the people who didn't jump on then did.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:17:25 PM
#130:


You know I am a bit sad I was expecting some big confrontation with Ben where he was all like "No! I deny it! You're evil scum Chris pew pew" and me and him would fight over a pit of lava.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:17:58 PM
#131:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Also, I wanted to say this about the Terra lynch, but I kind of think Terra's claim was so bad that I'm almost more suspicious of the people who didn't jump on then did.


I would agree with you but the only name I marked down from that perspective was MK so what the fuck do we know.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:19:25 PM
#132:


Actually MK I guess did hop on at the end despite expressing doubt.


Nana and Death? But death was zzz and had said terra was cooked so Nana?

Not whole lot of people took a stand there sceptile. Who did you have in mind?
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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 10:20:41 PM
#133:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Actually MK I guess did hop on at the end despite expressing doubt.


Nana and Death? But death was zzz and had said terra was cooked so Nana?

Not whole lot of people took a stand there sceptile. Who did you have in mind?


Actually, I didn't really have anyone in mind when I said that. Though I don't love Nana coming in crowing about how bad we are to lynch Terra.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:22:29 PM
#134:


Yeah sorry for lynching the Jack of all Trades Protection who backtracked the claim when counterclaimed.

My bad.
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Nanahara715
05/30/17 10:22:31 PM
#135:


Sceptilesolar posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Actually MK I guess did hop on at the end despite expressing doubt.


Nana and Death? But death was zzz and had said terra was cooked so Nana?

Not whole lot of people took a stand there sceptile. Who did you have in mind?


Actually, I didn't really have anyone in mind when I said that. Though I don't love Nana coming in crowing about how bad we are to lynch Terra.


Uh, crowing THE TRUTH?

Terra was my top town read for most of the game. I was pretty pissed/am still pissed he was lynched.
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eaedwards6400
05/30/17 10:22:31 PM
#136:


Ulti, just for the sake of viewing all of our options, would Chris ever pull a gambit like this as scum?
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Nanahara715
05/30/17 10:23:06 PM
#137:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Ulti, just for the sake of viewing all of our options, would Chris ever pull a gambit like this as scum?


Ulti is scum so whatever he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
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UItimaterializer
05/30/17 10:23:35 PM
#138:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Also, I wanted to say this about the Terra lynch, but I kind of think Terra's claim was so bad that I'm almost more suspicious of the people who didn't jump on then did.

I like this logic. I don't even agree necessarily, but I do like the logic. You need to olay more often!
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:23:47 PM
#139:


Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Actually MK I guess did hop on at the end despite expressing doubt.


Nana and Death? But death was zzz and had said terra was cooked so Nana?

Not whole lot of people took a stand there sceptile. Who did you have in mind?


Actually, I didn't really have anyone in mind when I said that. Though I don't love Nana coming in crowing about how bad we are to lynch Terra.


Uh, crowing THE TRUTH?

Terra was my top town read for most of the game. I was pretty pissed/am still pissed he was lynched.


How in the FUCK do you determine town reads exactly?

"Well guys, he claimed to be protection and so he outed the doctor who knew he was full of shit, I guess changing your claim when counterclaimed and your hints were all lies is only natural to think they are town."


Like there's being good at the game and understanding who is town and then there's just accepting bullshit and being right the 10% of the time it isn't from scum.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:24:28 PM
#140:


Nanahara715 posted...
eaedwards6400 posted...
Ulti, just for the sake of viewing all of our options, would Chris ever pull a gambit like this as scum?


Ulti is scum so whatever he says should be taken with a grain of salt.


eaed the answer is yes by the way.

I am just saying I am the best scum player this board has seen by a country mile I am capable of everything as scum. That's just full disclosure. Feel free to ask me questions though.
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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 10:24:51 PM
#141:


Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Actually MK I guess did hop on at the end despite expressing doubt.


Nana and Death? But death was zzz and had said terra was cooked so Nana?

Not whole lot of people took a stand there sceptile. Who did you have in mind?


Actually, I didn't really have anyone in mind when I said that. Though I don't love Nana coming in crowing about how bad we are to lynch Terra.


Uh, crowing THE TRUTH?

Terra was my top town read for most of the game. I was pretty pissed/am still pissed he was lynched.


After the game I am sure we will have to have a discussion about reckless gambiting as Town but I am not a fan.
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UItimaterializer
05/30/17 10:24:55 PM
#142:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Ulti, just for the sake of viewing all of our options, would Chris ever pull a gambit like this as scum?

Chris would pull any play as any alignment, but I actually think he's telling the truth here. That claim is so nuts that I doubt it's made up.
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bng_mmmk
05/30/17 10:25:06 PM
#143:


ben [3]: Chris, Ulti, eaed
Ulti [1]: Nana
Chris [1]: MZero

46.5 hours remaining. 6 votes to lynch.
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Sceptilesolar
05/30/17 10:26:19 PM
#144:


UItimaterializer posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Also, I wanted to say this about the Terra lynch, but I kind of think Terra's claim was so bad that I'm almost more suspicious of the people who didn't jump on then did.

I like this logic. I don't even agree necessarily, but I do like the logic. You need to olay more often!


I'm getting back into it, I wish it was as active here as when I was playing more around 2013-14.
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Nanahara715
05/30/17 10:27:09 PM
#145:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Actually MK I guess did hop on at the end despite expressing doubt.


Nana and Death? But death was zzz and had said terra was cooked so Nana?

Not whole lot of people took a stand there sceptile. Who did you have in mind?


Actually, I didn't really have anyone in mind when I said that. Though I don't love Nana coming in crowing about how bad we are to lynch Terra.


Uh, crowing THE TRUTH?

Terra was my top town read for most of the game. I was pretty pissed/am still pissed he was lynched.


How in the FUCK do you determine town reads exactly?

"Well guys, he claimed to be protection and so he outed the doctor who knew he was full of shit, I guess changing your claim when counterclaimed and your hints were all lies is only natural to think they are town."


Like there's being good at the game and understanding who is town and then there's just accepting bullshit and being right the 10% of the time it isn't from scum.


Unlike literally the fuck everyone in this game, I've actually played multiple games with Terra as both town/town, town/scum and scum/scum and have fairly good reads on him.

But noooooo let's not trust Nana who has played for two years on CE with Terra, but it's totally acceptable to blind-trust reads from [insert b8er] about [another b8er].
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:27:12 PM
#146:


So Ben clearly isn't here yet, so that's a bit sad.

Anyway Sceptile how have you been? This is the longest we've been in a game together forever. Am I still an evil asshole?
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:28:43 PM
#147:


I mean, if you just expect people to accept that when a town plays so awfully they force the doctor to counterclaim them I've got land to sell you in the middle of the ocean.

Also by the way you lack charisma. It doesn't matter if you're right 100% of the time if you lack the mafia social skills to enforce it. Stop blaming others and look at yourself in the mirror.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/30/17 10:29:47 PM
#149:


Seriously it's like "FUCK GUYS, YOU ARE SO DUMB, LISTEN TO ME GRR" It's like watching Ulti in a politics topic trying to act smart. Hurr durr RAISE THE W.

I'm just fucking with you Ulti, had to throw in some shade there you know while I am progressive as fuck the left on the board annoys me too. You're a special troll sometimes but I love ya.
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Nanahara715
05/30/17 10:31:00 PM
#150:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
Unlike literally the fuck everyone in this game, I've actually played multiple games with Terra as both town/town, town/scum and scum/scum and have fairly good reads on him.

But noooooo let's not trust Nana who has played for two years on CE with Terra, but it's totally acceptable to blind-trust reads from [insert b8er] about [another b8er].

You weren't making a town/town read though. Of course you "knew Terra was town" when you're scum and know everyone's alignment, christ.

I need to stop arguing with scum. It's pointless to bother.


THEN FUCKING LYNCH ME JESUS CHRIST.

You came in here saying "there's bigger fish to fry than Nana, like Chris", now you're all over Chris's claim.
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