Board 8 > Mercenaries Draft Week 4 Results: Help wanted, inquire within

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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 9:05:24 PM
#1:


DC drowns Skyridge (9-0)
Luis statpads Kamek (6-3)
Lopen outwords Mewtwo (8-1 idk fuck reading that topic beyond page 1)
Eddv outraps Tirofog (Forfeit)

Gravy infiltrates Redrocket (9-3)
Scare deconstructs Corrik (7-5)
Johnbobb clouds Eaed (7-4)
Boko preys on Tom (Forfeit)

Assign EXP here - 20 for winners (to the left) and 10 for losers (to the right).

Tier bids due in 12 hours as usual.

We are looking for a replacement for Corrik (as I assume he's still quitting). Whoever replaces will be awarded an immediate opportunity to redraft, with five replacement picks. If you're interested, post here indicating you'd like the team.


That's all for now.
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Skyridge87
06/04/17 9:06:04 PM
#2:


10 on Great Sacred Treasure
Yuna check
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MajinZidane
06/04/17 9:06:27 PM
#3:


I will happily replace Corrik
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DanteIsSlacking
06/04/17 9:06:53 PM
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

Lopen outwords Mewtwo (8-1 idk f*** reading that topic beyond page 1)



i've asked many people if ryu won, no one has told me

is no one willing to read past page 1

what if ryu got tons of votes on page 4

poor ryu
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 9:07:46 PM
#5:


DC spends 20 EXP to unlock Neclord's ability upgrade for My My.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 9:08:47 PM
#6:


Home Yuna (Skyridge's) fails to find Aeons today.


i've asked many people if ryu won, no one has told me

is no one willing to read past page 1

what if ryu got tons of votes on page 4

poor ryu


He didn't

I just couldn't be arsed to go through again seeing if there were further votes dante, and I don't mind missing one or two when the result is so clear
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Lopen
06/04/17 9:11:08 PM
#7:


20 on Corrin's Branch of Fate upgrade, completing it
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DanteIsSlacking
06/04/17 9:11:09 PM
#8:


poor, poor ryu
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ScareChan
06/04/17 9:13:07 PM
#9:


Bass seeks the Power of the Aeons

Attempt to aquire Anima

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Johnbobb
06/04/17 9:16:28 PM
#10:


10 to complete Mankind ill needs a savior such as you
10 on Don't Get So Cocky

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Mewtwo59
06/04/17 9:17:46 PM
#11:


15 on The defense is ready!, completing it.
9 on unlocking You call that a weapon?

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Tom Bombadil
06/04/17 9:19:33 PM
#12:


5 on Tails' second abil upgrade, finishing it.

5 on Mega Man's first abil upgrade, finishing it.

Hey I remembered Little Mac this time! 5 on Pit's Great Sacred Treasure (5/25)

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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 9:21:18 PM
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Bass.EXE's build is being edited for clarity. The following changes will be implemented:

-Life Aura is being tweaked. Currently it says the following: "Bass.EXE will also negate the first enemy mercenary Start of Battle ability that targets him used by a mercenary that is 4 Upkeep or higher, after which this passive will be disabled.". This uses 'targeting cancellation' which is not used in this way anywhere else, significantly weakening the passive from what it's supposed to do, and also uses the unclear wording 'negate' instead of 'Nullify. The new wording will be as follows: "Bass.EXE will also nullify the first enemy mercenary Start of Battle ability to hit him used by a mercenary of Upkeep 4 or higher, after which this passive will be disabled.". The combination of standardizing game terms and resolution timings removes dumb edge cases and unclear interps.
-Get Ability is also being tweaked for clarity. Currently it says the following: "However, he'll keep his interest strictly on battle, choosing only to copy a preselected customization from a preselected mercenary that was present for that battle. This ability may be used vs non-rostered mercs at a 50% rate.". Unclear verbiage makes it so it's hard to tell how it works ('present' is not a game term!). The wording will be changed to the following: "However, he'll keep his interest strictly on battle, choosing to copy a preselected customization from a preselected mercenary that was rosterable for the week's battle. This ability may be used against rosterable mercenaries that weren't rostered with a 50% chance of failure."
-Lastly, his battle writeup is being edited to clarify that he does not just draw from the MMBN4 and 5 Omega forms. He should be drawing from MMBN3 Bass Omega GS as well, but the writeup is unclear on that at the moment. His new battle writeup will be as follows:

"Bass.EXE is as he appears in the Megaman Battle Network series, with access to all the moves and properties of his Omega forms (including Bass Omega GS), though if any of his barriers/auras is destroyed, he loses access to all of them for the rest of the fight. He can operate here the same way he does on the Net."

-Similarly, his character upgrade should specify "...and BX forms (including both Gregar and Falzar)". He's supposed to get everything, not just one version's stuff.


@Lopen
@ScareChan

As this is more than just clarification (the Life Aura change in particular is, well, an actual change), we are obligated to offer the opportunity to refund Bass if you so choose. I wouldn't recommend it, as he's served you very well, but the choice is yours.
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Kamekguy
06/04/17 9:22:54 PM
#14:


Still got the 20 EXP from Class VII, so let's put that to some use...

15 EXP toward KING OF IRON FIST TOURNAMENT, unlocking it
5 EXP toward Sion's first ability upgrade (use on KO'd or injured ally), unlocking it
5 EXP toward Sion's Roar of the Slayer, unlocking it
5 EXP toward SPEARMEN ON MOTORCYCLES
0 EXP toward properly spelling X-Death, unlocking it

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Kamekguy
06/04/17 9:23:19 PM
#15:


Oh sorry, Spearmen on motorcycle would be (5/15)
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DanteIsSlacking
06/04/17 9:23:31 PM
#16:


Kamekguy posted...

5 EXP toward SPEARMEN ON MOTORCYCLES


the hero we need
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Tom Bombadil
06/04/17 9:23:38 PM
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5 more on Pit's Great Sacred Treasures >_>
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 9:25:05 PM
#18:


Scare's Get Ability is illegal. He may pick another Get Ability option if he so chooses (AKA magus or Wily, I believe).

Just making this clear because I was in the middle of posting preexistent fixes.
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ScareChan
06/04/17 9:31:29 PM
#19:


With Anima nowhere to be found, Bass takes solace in the dark side still, he takes the Shadow Magic barrier from Magus

10 exp to Hour of Twilight, completing it
10 exp towards Diablo's ability upgrade (50 souls)

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Lopen
06/04/17 9:35:22 PM
#20:


No I don't want a refund as that's how I'd always read the ability anyway.
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ScareChan
06/04/17 9:38:34 PM
#21:


.Oh yeah Keeping bass

*hugs Bass*
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 9:39:11 PM
#22:


We are editing CATS to fix his wording as well. Parts of it are really very sloppy, and while the merc clearly works in one specific way, he could use a polish pass. We will not be offering Johnbobb or Lopen a refund for him, however, as this is purely clarification with no changes in function.

-MAIN SCREEN TURN ON currently has the following wording: "Both teams will be aware of this, and a randomly-selected randomly rolled ability from either team, may be redirected to the chosen merc, even if it's not a legal target. ". The wording on this sucks ('randomly-selected' clearly means 'randomly-selectING', but isn't written that way). We are editing this to be clear to people who aren't admin-caliber, and read thusly: "Both teams will be aware of this, and one ability with randomized targeting (such as Little Mac's Title Bout) from either team may be redirected to the chosen merc, even if they're not a legal target. The ability to be redirected is randomly selected during rosters, and the choice to redirect must be declared at that time as well."

-IT'S YOU currently has the following wording: "Choose a mercenary. The next ability used by CATS's attached mercenary will target the chosen mercenary if able, even if the roll would normally be random. Further, if the chosen mercenary uses or has used any abilities this wartime, CATS's attached mercenary may copy them, reciprocating against the mercenary using the ability if they're an eligible target, choosing the target otherwise, with the choice of copying and target being made during rosters.". This wording is also just plain messy and we can make it more readable. It will be changed as follows: "Choose a mercenary to target. The next ability used by CATS's attached mercenary will hit the chosen mercenary if able, even if the roll would normally be random. Further, if the targeted mercenary uses or has used any abilities this wartime, CATS's attached mercenary may copy them, reciprocating them against the targeted mercenary if they're eligible to be hit by their own abilities and choosing another target otherwise, with the choice of copying and alternative target being made during rosters.

-CATS' YOU ARE ON THE WAY TO DESTRUCTION is for the most part clear, but one specific piece needs some clarification. Currently it says the following: "He may relink to any mercenary on his team making this choice.". We are changing it to say: "He may relink to any mercenary on his team upon using this ability, and before his chosen option has resolved, even if his abilities are on cooldown".


As a reminder, we will not be offering a refund for CATS. He still works the same way, you just don't need to be an admin to understand how he works anymore.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 9:46:29 PM
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We are also editing the mercenary Rydia to not have derp wording. Specifically, her Odin upgrade option. Currently it reads as follows:

"Odin: Uses Zantetsuken. Dramatic Summon will only hit one random post rosters mercenary if it triggers, KOing the mercenary. Rydia will bring the Mist Dragon to battle for her battle write-up if this customization is chosen."

If you look at it closely, you'll see Rydia can get her own teammates. This is very clearly a wording slip that adds nothing to the game, so rather than keep a """"""hilarious"""""" self-ownage that you can't plan for around, we'll be fixing it to say 'one random post-rosters enemy mercenary'.


Nobody actually owns her, but we were asked to clarify on this matter so here you are.

(got a further Bass tweak coming up. Forgot to catch a little thing.)
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greengravy294
06/04/17 9:47:36 PM
#24:


When is class vii gonna be redone so valimar isn't poo poo
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greengravy294
06/04/17 9:48:16 PM
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Just Take My Word on it okay thx
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 9:52:24 PM
#26:


Further edit to Life Aura:

"Bass.EXE will also nullify the first enemy single-target or multi-target Start of Battle ability to hit him used by a mercenary of Upkeep 4 or higher...".


It works in the exact same way, but the fix'd Life Aura accidentally allowed Bass to catch Globals and Teamwide abilities when he shouldn't, so we've edited it for further clarity. We will have a Targeting Primer up soon, explaining the Three Words of Ability Usage, what the targeting types are, and which abilities are considered to 'target' and not. Thank you for your patience.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 9:52:53 PM
#27:


greengravy294 posted...
When is class vii gonna be redone so valimar isn't poo poo


Look dude I have a billion fixes to post gimme a minute to actually post em ok
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Eddv
06/04/17 9:55:54 PM
#28:


10 XP via Dr Light on Mega Man's Eddie, Bass, and Rush Custom, completing it
Dr Light takes on a new project - Char Aznable and the Anti-Earth Union Group
10 XP via Dr Light on completing Char's MEC
For his service against the Dragon Menace, Char is giving two promotions, spending all 10 of his bonus XP on Rank Advancement

GET ABILITY? Pool of: Cloud Booker Lilith Lightning Subzero
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greengravy294
06/04/17 9:56:00 PM
#29:


Well you know me
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Lopen
06/04/17 10:06:15 PM
#30:


Tom Bombadil posted...
5 on Tails' second abil upgrade, finishing it.

5 on Mega Man's first abil upgrade, finishing it.

Hey I remembered Little Mac this time! 5 on Pit's Great Sacred Treasure (5/25)


You get 10 bonus exp not 5
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 10:09:02 PM
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You know what's more '''''''fun''''''' than being a mercs admin? Having to be a mercs admin while you're getting rushed. Last fix of the night, thank goodness.

We are implementing a hotfix to Class 7's Valimar ability. It's very sloppy, offers only an antihype showing, and generally is very little value for something that should be, y'know, actually useful. The entire ability will be replaced with the following:

"Heed my call... Valimar, the Ashen Knight!" (Pre-Battle): Once every five weeks, Rean may choose to take things to the next level and pilot Valimar, the Ashen Knight, as seen in Trails of Cold Steel 2, replacing the entirety of Class 7. This is considered a Form Switch and Vehicle Swap ability, with Valimar's classification becoming Heroic Male Robot, and you may pick one secondary contractor of your choice to accompany Rean while piloting Valimar from the available options in ToCS2. Its writeup is as follows:

Valimar, the Ashen Knight is as seen in Trails of Cold Steel 2, piloted by Rean Schwarzer, with <Contractor> as his secondary contractor, granting him access to all the appropriate abilities. They may leave the Ashen Knight at any time.

@Kamekguy

As this is 100% upside (going from a meatshield to an actual able combatant) we will not be offering a refund. Apologies for not getting this done earlier, but this week was, ahem 'hectic'. It is what it is.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 10:09:55 PM
#32:


@Tom_Bombadil

EXP gain abilities get their earnings doubled if they're flat, and Mac's is flat. You get the same EXP you'd get on a win with him, so 20. Please remember to actually get EXP right this time. >_>
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Eddv
06/04/17 10:11:24 PM
#33:


He did fix it - he added five more on the pit thing
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greengravy294
06/04/17 10:11:47 PM
#34:


It's ashen kanzn ot ash
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JeezyMiyagi
06/04/17 10:13:27 PM
#35:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
We are looking for a replacement for Corrik (as I assume he's still quitting). Whoever replaces will be awarded an immediate opportunity to redraft, with five replacement picks. If you're interested, post here indicating you'd like the team.


I'm willing to replace Corrik.

I'll step aside if Ganon or FFD or whomever wants it, but if it's looking like things will get delayed and nobody else has come forward, just let me know and I'll jump in.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 10:14:03 PM
#36:


Megaman's first ability upgrade is finished, BTW. Tom misled me by saying I'd added 5 EXP too many, but I hadn't, I'd just put it on the wrong place (on Tails). So it's going into the same place the other 5 EXP got randomed out last week. That means you have 5 EXP you still need to spend. please don't make me random you out again.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 10:14:49 PM
#37:


Eddv posted...
He did fix it - he added five more on the pit thing


See above - basically Tom's goof last week has ripple effects now.
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 10:25:38 PM
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https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/570224-mercs/75290480/880423976

All the changes and clarifications have been moved to the rulings topic for clarity and permanence. Unrelatedly, we've also posted a ruling on KOS-MOS and possessions. Sorry Mewtwo. :(
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 10:35:02 PM
#39:


Daily income update:

Mewtwo: 39 GP
Kamek: 44 GP
DC: 40 GP
Tirofog: 45 GP
Luis: 44 GP
Skyridge: 48 GP
Eddv: 22 GP
Lopen: 28 GP

Boko: 73 GP
Gravy: 61 GP
Johnbobb: 56 GP
Scare: 36 GP
Redrocket: 40 GP
Eaed: 30 GP
"Corrik": 43 GP
Tom: 63 GP

As usual, check for errors.
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Triofrog
06/04/17 10:46:35 PM
#40:


10 EXP on CAGE
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Triofrog
06/04/17 10:46:56 PM
#41:


Also, Genez
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 10:54:41 PM
#42:


Ryu3 gets Fetch and Zeratul's genes!
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greengravy294
06/04/17 10:56:35 PM
#43:


dr light unlocks the following on sorey w/ appropriate light capsules:

-5 exp on blessed terrain, completing it.
-10 exp on lord of the land, completing it.


re-link choice tba, gonna weigh mah options
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 11:02:27 PM
#44:


(for Eddv)

YOU DEFEATED CLOUD MAN

GET EQUIPPED WITH

"You want to go on a date?" "What?"

AND

BLADE BEAM

AND

FENRIR!

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Eddv
06/04/17 11:04:05 PM
#45:


You better believe I accept
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Tom Bombadil
06/04/17 11:06:57 PM
#46:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
Megaman's first ability upgrade is finished, BTW. Tom misled me by saying I'd added 5 EXP too many, but I hadn't, I'd just put it on the wrong place (on Tails). So it's going into the same place the other 5 EXP got randomed out last week. That means you have 5 EXP you still need to spend. please don't make me random you out again.


I have no idea what you're saying but whatever EXP I haven't assigned yet put it on great sacred treasure
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KanzarisKelshen
06/04/17 11:09:04 PM
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I have no idea what you're saying but whatever EXP I haven't assigned yet put it on great sacred treasure


What I'm saying is that you had 5 EXP more than you thought last week

that exp went on megaman and fully unlocked his ability upgrade

Meaning this line:


5 on Mega Man's first abil upgrade, finishing it.


Doesn't do anything ATM

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Tom Bombadil
06/04/17 11:09:38 PM
#48:


oh cool then :D
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GANON1025
06/04/17 11:19:00 PM
#49:


I was considering taking the team, but I think I don't want the stress of running one right now.
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Lopen
06/05/17 1:12:36 AM
#50:


I updated erratas to CATS and BASS on both my page and Scare's/Johnbobb's

Would've done Class VII but seems Kamek already did that
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