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Antifar
06/06/17 1:35:13 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/06/05/post-abc-poll-nearly-6-in-10-oppose-trump-scrapping-paris-agreement/?utm_term=.90e8ed3e418c
Most Americans oppose President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, with a majority saying the move will damage the United States’ global leadership, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

Opposition to Trump’s decision outpaces support for it by a roughly 2-to-1 margin, with 59 percent opposing the move and 28 percent in support. The reactions also break down sharply along partisan lines, though Republicans are not as united in support of the withdrawal as Democrats are in opposition to it. A 67 percent majority of Republicans support Trump’s action, but that drops to 22 percent among political independents and 8 percent of Democrats. Just over 6 in 10 independents and 8 in 10 Democrats oppose Trump’s action.

The survey also finds broad skepticism toward Trump’s argument that leaving the Paris agreement will benefit the U.S. economy. While 32 percent of respondents say his action will help the nation’s economy, 42 percent say it will hurt and 20 percent say it will make no difference. On a separate question, slightly more people surveyed say that exiting the climate accord will cost jobs, such as those in renewable energy, than it will create jobs in traditional energy sectors such as coal, oil and gas.

Trump’s decision to exit the landmark Paris climate agreement — a pact signed by more than 190 countries — drew criticism last week from U.S. allies, major companies and mayors of numerous U.S. cities, all of whom underscored their commitment to what they called the necessary task of combating climate change. Trump argued that the nonbinding agreement imposed “draconian financial and economic burdens on our country” and predicted it would cost Americans millions of jobs and the U.S. economy trillions of dollars — a stance critics quickly noted did not consider the health benefits from cutting emissions and the potential economic benefits of investments in clean energy.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/06/17 1:36:06 PM
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59% oppose is bafflingly low
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iPhone_7
06/06/17 1:36:50 PM
#3:


It was a bad deal
Very bad deal
Unbelievably bad deal
And I know good deals
Believe me
Believe me
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voldothegr8
06/06/17 1:37:19 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.
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Paragon21XX
06/06/17 1:39:27 PM
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Because most people don't even know the specifics of the deal.
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scoobydoobydont
06/06/17 1:40:37 PM
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Paragon21XX posted...
Because most people don't even know the specifics of the deal.


Not even Trump himself!
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green butter
06/06/17 1:41:20 PM
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If God didn't want the climate to change, then why did He create the seasons?
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Amputation
06/06/17 1:43:25 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.


Explain why it is bad

It is voluntary after all, how could it be bad when you could literally just do nothing
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Amputation
06/06/17 1:44:07 PM
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Haha, this stupid move has less support than his approval
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voldothegr8
06/06/17 1:48:02 PM
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Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.


Explain why it is bad

It is voluntary after all, how could it be bad when you could literally just do nothing

Because we'd have to shell out $100 billion. Now we don't and big companies are still attempting to stick with the guidelines. Win fucking win!
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Amputation
06/06/17 1:49:43 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.


Explain why it is bad

It is voluntary after all, how could it be bad when you could literally just do nothing

Because we'd have to shell out $100 billion. Now we don't and big companies are still attempting to stick with the guidelines. Win fucking win!


No we wouldn't have

Everything about the deal was voluntary
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_RETS_
06/06/17 1:50:16 PM
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Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.


Explain why it is bad

It is voluntary after all, how could it be bad when you could literally just do nothing


I think that's the point. USA being asked to pay for something that is potentially just posturing with no real action. But i dont know . That's just what I see most often from those who oppose the deal
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Amputation
06/06/17 1:50:51 PM
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In fact backing out of this could have costs jobs for America

Are not jerbs the Trumpettes biggest concern?
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NinjaWarrior455
06/06/17 1:51:33 PM
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Didn't Trump pull that $100 billion number out of his ass?
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Amputation
06/06/17 1:52:13 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.


Explain why it is bad

It is voluntary after all, how could it be bad when you could literally just do nothing


I think that's the point. USA being asked to pay for something that is potentially just posturing with no real action. But i dont know . That's just what I see most often from those who oppose the deal


So we could have done nothing with the deal (again, voluntary) but stayed in the accord, sparing us embarrassment

Literally all Trump did was ceremonially embarrass the USA.
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Amputation
06/06/17 1:52:34 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Didn't Trump pull that $100 billion number out of his ass?


Indeed he did.
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_RETS_
06/06/17 1:53:19 PM
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It would serve no purpose to be apart of it, but we would absolutely be compelled to pay the "optional" fee
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LightHawKnight
06/06/17 1:53:26 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.


Explain why it is bad

It is voluntary after all, how could it be bad when you could literally just do nothing

Because we'd have to shell out $100 billion. Now we don't and big companies are still attempting to stick with the guidelines. Win fucking win!


We are already shelling out a ton more than that on pointless things.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
06/06/17 1:53:39 PM
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NinjaWarrior455 posted...
Didn't Trump pull that $100 billion number out of his ass?


Yup
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Capn Circus
06/06/17 1:55:10 PM
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Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.


Explain why it is bad

It is voluntary after all, how could it be bad when you could literally just do nothing


You answer your own question.

It seems a lot of people from the left recognize this is just some tongue and cheek, feel good BS.. but they want to think the deal is amazingly important to the planet because Trump wants a better deal.
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Amputation
06/06/17 1:55:23 PM
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_RETS_ posted...
It would serve no purpose to be apart of it, but we would absolutely be compelled to pay the "optional" fee


None of this is true
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
06/06/17 1:56:10 PM
#23:


Capn Circus posted...
Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.


Explain why it is bad

It is voluntary after all, how could it be bad when you could literally just do nothing


You answer your own question.

It seems a lot of people from the left recognize this is just some tongue and cheek, feel good BS.. but they want to think the deal is amazingly important to the planet because Trump wants a better deal.


Uh no. Trump doesn't want a deal at all, which is kind of the problem
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Antifar
06/06/17 1:56:16 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
because Trump wants a better deal.

How often does your wife go on vacation with her yoga instructor? You've gotta be really gullible if you think Trump's about "getting a better deal" here.
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iPhone_7
06/06/17 1:57:44 PM
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You guys don't understand, the other countries were laughing at us for saying yes to handing them $100 billion and our coal jobs. Now they're no longer laughing. America first. America first.
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Amputation
06/06/17 1:57:58 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

Baffling high if you ask me, but then again most people aren't informed. Bad deal was a bad deal.


Explain why it is bad

It is voluntary after all, how could it be bad when you could literally just do nothing


You answer your own question.

It seems a lot of people from the left recognize this is just some tongue and cheek, feel good BS.. but they want to think the deal is amazingly important to the planet because Trump wants a better deal.


How did I answer my own question

The deal is important to the planet, it is voluntary but didn't have to be

And Trump doesn't want a better deal, he is the worst negotiator in the history of the POTUS
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
06/06/17 1:58:40 PM
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iPhone_7 posted...
You guys don't understand, the other countries were laughing at us for saying yes to handing them $100 billion and our coal jobs. Now they're no longer laughing. America first. America first.


No, the other countries weren't laughing at us, and now they're laughing at us for nearly every decision that Trump has made (including this one)
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voldothegr8
06/06/17 2:00:49 PM
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Amputation posted...
The deal is important to the planet

ROFL!!!
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
06/06/17 2:01:20 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Amputation posted...
The deal is important to the planet

ROFL!!!


Okay....?
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Bluster
06/06/17 2:01:36 PM
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As someone from "the rest of the world", you fuckwit Redhats are the carcinogenic growth of testicular cancer on the balls of this planet that will inevitably lead to its demise unless we deal with you.
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Blighboy
06/06/17 2:01:43 PM
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Can't wait for all those coal jobs that are totally coming back. It'll give me a lot more money to spend on my VHS collection.
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Amputation
06/06/17 2:05:17 PM
#32:


voldothegr8 posted...
Amputation posted...
The deal is important to the planet

ROFL!!!


Explain why it isn't

Guess every world leader is wrong, but somehow Trump is right?

Lol
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QuantumScript
06/06/17 2:05:59 PM
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lmao at the ad populum argument
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Tropicalwood
06/06/17 2:06:41 PM
#34:


Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Amputation posted...
The deal is important to the planet

ROFL!!!


Explain why it isn't

Guess every world leader is wrong, but somehow Trump is right?

Lol

China and India being required to cut their admissions
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Capn Circus
06/06/17 2:06:41 PM
#35:


The biggest polluters get to keep on polluting for years, while we're expected to foot a lot of the bill and put a damper on our productions. This is not a good deal for the environment.

No one gives a **** about this deal. It's feigned outrage because "Trump is bad"
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Guns_of_Verdun
06/06/17 2:06:58 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
59% oppose is bafflingly low

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Bluster
06/06/17 2:07:05 PM
#37:


QuantumScript posted...
lmao at the ad populum argument

lmfao at the switching accounts to make it seem like there's more than a single person taking your side in this argument.
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Amputation
06/06/17 2:07:58 PM
#38:


Tropicalwood posted...
Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Amputation posted...
The deal is important to the planet

ROFL!!!


Explain why it isn't

Guess every world leader is wrong, but somehow Trump is right?

Lol

China and India being required to cut their admissions


Nobody is required to do anything - they should but they aren't

Voluntary, remember

Trump literally backed out of something that he didn't have to do ANYTHING for just to embarrass the US
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Amputation
06/06/17 2:08:34 PM
#39:


Capn Circus posted...
The biggest polluters get to keep on polluting for years, while we're expected to foot a lot of the bill and put a damper on our productions. This is not a good deal for the environment.

No one gives a **** about this deal. It's feigned outrage because "Trump is bad"


None of this is true.
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Tropicalwood
06/06/17 2:08:51 PM
#40:


Amputation posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Amputation posted...
The deal is important to the planet

ROFL!!!


Explain why it isn't

Guess every world leader is wrong, but somehow Trump is right?

Lol

China and India being required to cut their admissions


Nobody is required to do anything

Voluntary, remember

Oh, so China doesn't have to do anything
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Amputation
06/06/17 2:10:54 PM
#41:


Tropicalwood posted...
Amputation posted...
Tropicalwood posted...
Amputation posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Amputation posted...
The deal is important to the planet

ROFL!!!


Explain why it isn't

Guess every world leader is wrong, but somehow Trump is right?

Lol

China and India being required to cut their admissions


Nobody is required to do anything

Voluntary, remember

Oh, so China doesn't have to do anything


Nobody does

They should but they don't. And China & India DO intend on action

Thank God Trump saved us Americans from a voluntary program meant to help the planet

Bless you Trump
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Link HT
06/06/17 2:12:38 PM
#42:


How is something non-enforceable and with terms each individual country decides for themselves a bad deal...?
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
06/06/17 2:13:01 PM
#43:


Because it doesn't have Trumps name on it
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QuantumScript
06/06/17 2:13:09 PM
#44:


hey antifar what did the cnn poll say
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Amputation
06/06/17 2:13:11 PM
#45:


Link HT posted...
How is something non-enforceable and with terms each individual country decides for themselves a bad deal...?


Because Trumpland is home to the ignorant and uneducated
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Antifar
06/06/17 2:14:42 PM
#46:


QuantumScript posted...
hey antifar what did the cnn poll say

It doesn't seem like they've conducted a poll on the subject since Trump pulled out.
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hollow_shrine
06/06/17 2:15:52 PM
#47:


Is is show hard to google this shit before you go up there, show your ass, and embarrass all of us? How stupid can a human being be and still draw breath?
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Damn_Underscore
06/06/17 2:18:14 PM
#48:


There's no way even 28% could explain what this deal does. They just know what the media tells them.
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Sanktu_Vyvorant
06/06/17 2:18:49 PM
#49:


Who posted
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Tropicalwood
06/06/17 2:19:27 PM
#50:


Link HT posted...
How is something non-enforceable and with terms each individual country decides for themselves a bad deal...?

how is pulling out of it bad then
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