Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 411: Topic 425 is gonna suck

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Been a while since I made one! Trying my hand at the patented APWT time traveling pessimism.

Excited for Okada/Omega and Lesnar/Joe. Also excited that I made MrSmartGuy pretty butthurt last topic.
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Another PPV heel/heel main event that kinda doesn't count. Angle vs HHH at Royal Rumble 2001. Obviously the Rumble main evented but this was the WWF Championship match.
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Looking forward to SDL tonight.

*rubs hands like that Raccoon in the meme w/ the murderous smile*
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I don't get the "Joe/Lesnar is only good if Joe wins" sentiment
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JetJaguar posted...

Another PPV heel/heel main event that kinda doesn't count. Angle vs HHH at Royal Rumble 2001. Obviously the Rumble main evented but this was the WWF Championship match.

You know, this is one of their matches that I go into an instant Mental Block over. I have it on Tape (Friend used to tape PPVs for me back in the day) but can't really remember anything about it (Have only watched it once tbf)
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"Screw people that don't like what I like."
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StealThisSheen posted...

I don't get the "Joe/Lesnar is only good if Joe wins" sentiment

Because everyone I've spoken to is sick to the back teeth of Lesnar's one-dimensional suplex city moveset and Lesnar, in general.
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Hardcore_Adult posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

I don't get the "Joe/Lesnar is only good if Joe wins" sentiment

Because everyone I've spoken to is sick to the back teeth of Lesnar's one-dimensional suplex city moveset and Lesnar, in general.

speak to me

Did you not see WM then? That Lesnar match was GREAT
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StealThisSheen posted...

I don't get the "Joe/Lesnar is only good if Joe wins" sentiment

My thing is that if Lesnar wins, we're back to more absentee boring champion stuff that we dealt with not only since Wrestlemania, but also Lesnar's entire last run as champion. Joe winning forces it to be something interesting.

I just have no interest in more of the champion just popping in and out a couple months at a time. Like, the match will be great, but only if they let Joe have any time. But if they don't, it's going to be the same match we've seen so many times.

But chances are that Lesnar is going to win. Then in another couple months, Lesnar will face Rollins with the same boring run. And in another couple months, Lesnar will face Finn with the same boring run. And eventually we'll get to Wrestlemania where Lesnar loses to Roman. It's just predictable and boring to me, and Joe winning breaks that trend and allows them to go somewhere creative instead of the same stagnant direction they've been going.
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I just want Joe to give him a good fight

As long as that happens I'm good
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Agreed. I am putting zero expectations on anything long term being great. I just want to see the two biggest badasses throw down
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It's also worth knowing ratings popped big for RAW. If I had to guess, it's probably because of Joe.

Or so we could see the next chapter of Kalisto vs Titus/Apollo.
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6 weeks of under 3m.

Not facing nba playoffs.

Going up to below 3m is now cause for celebration
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I love Lesnar and Lesnar matches -- when he's around.

But this absentee champion is absolutely miserable to the point where I'd rather tater tots bbygrl have the title than him.
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i just want a show where the champion is actually at the goddamn show.
joe being amazing just makes it perfect. you can easily spin this to an interesting story too - Joe beats Lesnar then Balor challenges him, we get Demon Balor vs. Joe for the title.

i mean okay, we're treading NXT waters again here but fuck it, they work well together and lord knows Raw can use a shot in the arm.
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I don't mind if the Champion isn't around as long as his looming presence isn't ignored.

When they just sweep Champ Lesnar under the rug, it's the worst.
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I just don't think I want Lesnar's God of Destruction push over the last number of years to be blown off at a pay-per-view called Great Balls of Fire to Samoa Joe with very little build.

Not that it couldn't be Joe at some point, whatever, but not at the relative snap of a finger.
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for what it's worth, after the Goldberg situation he seems less invulnerable. add in that his feat of defeating Undertaker at WM is no longer unique and the guy who did it happens to have also lost a couple matches since then, that aspect of invincibility is gone too.

it's kinda funny but i think that's the biggest thing Roman winning did - deflate Lesnar. not put him over as a total monster, just that it's no longer a crazy accomplishment, even though it should be.
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NBIceman posted...

"Screw people that don't like what I like."

It's impossible to like or dislike something that hasn't happened yet. I still don't understand how there is at least 3 adults high functioning enough to access the internet that can't comprehend this.
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I would think such a high functioning adult like you would understand people not liking the direction of something and having a feeling they will not like it.

I imagine TimJab has never seen the trailer for a movie and gone "This looks good" or "This looks bad" or has gone out of his way to say to people "NO, you haven't seen it! You can't say you think it looks good or bad until you've seen the whole movie!"

It's like damn dude, it's been over 24 hours and you're still acting like a child over some people saying they think something won't turn out well. You even created a topic with a title reflecting that, because you are that infantile that you are absolutely incapable of letting go of such an absolute non-issue thing of people discussing freaking wrestling storylines.

So here's what you can do Tim. You can still keep trying to act like a big mature guy by being incapable of letting something go that absolutely nobody really cares about and don't even give a shit about humoring you over because, let's be frank, your opinion is and always has meant next to nothing to the people on these boards. Or you can keep enjoying what you enjoy and let other people not enjoy what they don't want to enjoy and kindly get over yourself. And we can all continue to talk about the low-tier writing and storytelling that is professional wrestling.
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okay.
who's going to injure who in this clusterfuck. between Tamina, Carmella, and Lana, i do not feel Becky has a good shot of coming out of this in one piece. Charlotte is also the type who'll bump hard, that doesn't have good promise. and Nattie... i dunno.

this is going to be a match to watch for all the wrong reasons.
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I personally trust Lana the least out of everyone to wield a ladder. I mean, they have creative people in this match who will come up with decent ideas for spots, provided the agent for this match can keep them (mostly Charlotte) from doing something terribly unsafe.
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What was that? Uh...Really, what was that?

Edit...ok then. That's why.
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Why are they so determined to make Lana wrestle?
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because vince wants to see her as close to naked as possible before and after she gets his dick wet.
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Well, Lana was initially brought in to wrestle. And from the one episode of Total Divas I watched with her in it and from her Talk is Jericho interview, it seems like she's just bright eyed and optimistic and very aggressive in trying to sell her ideas and determined to become a bigger star that she thinks she can be as a wrestler instead of Rusev's wife.

So I guess it's a combination of Lana going "Can I wrestle? Can I wrestle? How about now?" and her being able to convince them she can be a much bigger star as a wrestler.

I mean, I'm legitimately nervous about her being in a Money in the Bank Match, and it just automatically brings down the excitement for me, because they have to try to pigeonhole a spot there for her when we already have two lesser performers in Carmella and Tamina to try to fit something in for where they won't kill someone. But adding in Lana, who has only been in one match two years ago, into this match makes it seem a lot less special.
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Who's ready for Mojo to beat Jinder
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I understand the desire to branch out but she and Rusev really do complete each other. Both of them are lesser without the partnership.
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Yeah, Lana in that match seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

At the same time though, she's been in more than just one match two years ago. From following her social media stuff, I've seen her doing a bunch of house shows on the NXT circuit, so I would assume they think she's ready.

Whether she actually is or not is another story.
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JetJaguar posted...

NBIceman posted...

"Screw people that don't like what I like."

It's impossible to like or dislike something that hasn't happened yet. I still don't understand how there is at least 3 adults high functioning enough to access the internet that can't comprehend this.

Nobody complains about things that haven't happened yet. We were complaining about the direction of the story so far and expressing doubt that it would get better because WWE doesn't have a good batting average when it comes to making stories better that started poorly.
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Yeah, I just meant for making this match seem like a bigger deal, it seems like much less of a big deal when you toss in the random manager that's only been in one match in WWE.
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Agreed.
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I would think such a high functioning adult like you would understand people not liking the direction of something and having a feeling they will not like it.

I imagine TimJab has never seen the trailer for a movie and gone "This looks good" or "This looks bad" or has gone out of his way to say to people "NO, you haven't seen it! You can't say you think it looks good or bad until you've seen the whole movie!"

It's like damn dude, it's been over 24 hours and you're still acting like a child over some people saying they think something won't turn out well. You even created a topic with a title reflecting that, because you are that infantile that you are absolutely incapable of letting go of such an absolute non-issue thing of people discussing freaking wrestling storylines.

So here's what you can do Tim. You can still keep trying to act like a big mature guy by being incapable of letting something go that absolutely nobody really cares about and don't even give a shit about humoring you over because, let's be frank, your opinion is and always has meant next to nothing to the people on these boards. Or you can keep enjoying what you enjoy and let other people not enjoy what they don't want to enjoy and kindly get over yourself. And we can all continue to talk about the low-tier writing and storytelling that is professional wrestling.

*doesn't care*

*posts four paragraph response*

lol

But seriously, can you link me to the trailer detailing the next few months of WWE programming that you based your opinion off of? I didn't realize it existed and assumed that you had been talking out of your ass the entire time.
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Fashion Police remain best thing in WWE
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Give me 2 hours of Breezango interacting with the New Day every week and I'm sold.
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So who will be the one to be able to hear their psychic conversations?

My money is on Ziggler
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Bloom is officially off the Jinder rose.

Literally wanted Mojo to beat him
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JetJaguar posted...

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

I would think such a high functioning adult like you would understand people not liking the direction of something and having a feeling they will not like it.

I imagine TimJab has never seen the trailer for a movie and gone "This looks good" or "This looks bad" or has gone out of his way to say to people "NO, you haven't seen it! You can't say you think it looks good or bad until you've seen the whole movie!"

It's like damn dude, it's been over 24 hours and you're still acting like a child over some people saying they think something won't turn out well. You even created a topic with a title reflecting that, because you are that infantile that you are absolutely incapable of letting go of such an absolute non-issue thing of people discussing freaking wrestling storylines.

So here's what you can do Tim. You can still keep trying to act like a big mature guy by being incapable of letting something go that absolutely nobody really cares about and don't even give a shit about humoring you over because, let's be frank, your opinion is and always has meant next to nothing to the people on these boards. Or you can keep enjoying what you enjoy and let other people not enjoy what they don't want to enjoy and kindly get over yourself. And we can all continue to talk about the low-tier writing and storytelling that is professional wrestling.

*doesn't care*

*posts four paragraph response*

lol

But seriously, can you link me to the trailer detailing the next few months of WWE programming that you based your opinion off of? I didn't realize it existed and assumed that you had been talking out of your ass the entire time.

We don't have a trailer. The feud has already started and so far it sucks. It's more like we have the first hour of the actual movie.
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GET EM!
*points*
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okay, that's better at least. lana vs. naomi for no reason whatsoever but at least that's better than her in MITB.
maybe now only one of the good ones will get injured.
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Haven't watched in quite some time. What the hell sort of phrase is snatch her bald?

Land of opportunity keeps building steam. Can we give Harper or Rusev theirs soon?
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future money in the bank winner, Baron Corbin, getting one up on Nak after his match with KO
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I hope TJP gets erased tonight on 205 Live
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I'm shocked someone in WWE actually knows what winning means. Nakamura keeps it up, and he might actually get over, despite them trying to do every stupid trick with his entrance and branding to fuck him up.
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is it bad I want Tozawa to accept the Titus Brand's offer to team up with Crews
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ninkendo posted...

is it bad I want Tozawa to accept the Titus Brand's offer to team up with Crews

No because that just means you want Tozawa to do something.
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ninkendo posted...

is it bad I want Tozawa to accept the Titus Brand's offer to team up with Crews

Are you implying you think that would be entertaining?

Because apparently we can't speculate on future entertainment value in this topic, be careful. Tim will be salty.
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FOR FUCK'S SAKE LANA
HOW ARE YOU NOT BETTER AT THIS ACCENT
YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT YOUR LIFE IN RUSSIA AS YOU DROP IT HALFWAY THROUGH THE SENTENCE

this one is frustrating.
mojo meanwhile was pretty chill.

but this lana segment is like... i can't get over her dropping that accent all the damn time.
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