Poll of the Day > would you feel cheap buying an $80 engagement ring?

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i like that it's mostly dudes here because this seems like a fun question to gauge what you think the expectation is for something like that.
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To me, the cost of the ring would not matter at all, just the thought/care behind it. I certainly wouldn't want someone to spend more then theycould afford, and honestly if your about to share your life with someone, there are FAR better ways to spend the money that you would both enjoy.

I mean yeah, if your rich and have plenty of money, then spening $80 is an insult, but if your working for a living and just getting by month to month? Nope, I'd be totally happy with it.
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Yes, either I respect the tradition and use it as a price-appropriate down payment on a woman I want or I don't bother.
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Given that I make a decent wage, yes, I'd feel like cheap-ass buying that. Unless she specifically had asked before to buy a cheap ring.
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What's the rule? 3 month's salary?

That's fucking insane. I would never do it, and would pretty quickly question the judgement of someone if they gave me a ring that expensive.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

price-appropriate down payment on a woma

lmao

PK_Spam posted...

What's the rule? 3 month's salary?

That's fucking insane. I would never do it, and would pretty quickly question the judgement of someone if they gave me a ring that expensive.

i think it used to be two months and then became three but i agree. that's sooo much. even if you make minimum wage that's like minimum $3400 for a ring. why would you pay that on a fast food job?
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No because the ring is just a symbol. Liking how it looks and appreciating its significance is what matters, not the monetary value.
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Jen0125 posted...

i like that it's mostly dudes here because this seems like a fun question to gauge what you think the expectation is for something like that.

Hey Jen, I say it doesn't matter. I got married at 18 and bought a $99 ring. We are hitting our tenth year of marriage in 2 months. Price doesn't matter.
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You gotta have the most expensive ring if you're bougie, though.

Right @CountessRolab?
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If I skimp out on the engagement ring, I can spend more on the wedding ring. The way I see it, might as well spend more on the rock you're gonna wear for the longer period of time. So... enjoy the crackerjack box green lantern engagement ring.

I jest, of course. I'm not that cheap. I can afford those gooey slime rings you find in the vending machines at the exit of Toys R Us.

I only paid 1k for my engagement/wedding ring set. $80 does seem a little low in quality but seeing how the ring is a symbolic gesture and as long as the other person is happy with the ring, I don't see anything wrong with it.

I know a lot of couples start off with inexpensive rings and upgrade as they go.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

price-appropriate down payment on a woman I want or I don't bother.

You're not buying her. WTF!
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SunWuKung420 posted...

$80 does seem a little low in quality

i think this is dependent on what kind of stone in the ring. you can get really decent quality gemstone rings for that much. diamonds? maybe not.
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I would rather wait until I had enough money to buy one that was at least a grand.

But if that's all I had, and it was a situation where I really needed to propose soon (idk.. like an ultimatum with a girl I really wanted to be with), I would hope she would accept whatever ring I got her. It's about the love not the ring.

I have a ring for my girlfriend that is my moms old ring.. but it's fucking ugly as fuck. Ugly ass 80's brass shit. I'm going to take it in and use the diamond and put it on something else.

A little, but personally I can't see spending a ton on a commitment that doesn't necessarily last these days. Plus not every state has laws requiring a woman to return an engagement ring in the event of a divorce and, even if she did, you aren't going to get what you paid for it.

PK_Spam posted...

What's the rule? 3 month's salary?

That's fucking insane. I would never do it, and would pretty quickly question the judgement of someone if they gave me a ring that expensive.

Yeah, that doesn't seem practical. And honestly any woman that materialistic is only going to cost you far more down the road and likely clean you out in the divorce.

Jen0125 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

$80 does seem a little low in quality

i think this is dependent on what kind of stone in the ring. you can get really decent quality gemstone rings for that much. diamonds? maybe not.

While there are all sorts of cheap gems, the band itself costs money. The only reason you'd find a really good-quality engagement ring for $80 is if it had been stolen. Keep in mind that, if the owner recovers it, you're out that money and you're stuck in an awkward situation. So yeah, be careful with what you use to propose to your boyfriend.
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Nope, would be embarrassed

Working hard to afford a more expensive ring just shows how dedicated you are, marriage is a symbol

People use the "it's a ring it doesn't matter " yet will throw down half a grand for a new console no questions asked

Smh
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mastermix3000 posted...

Nope, would be embarrassed

Working hard to afford a more expensive ring just shows how dedicated you are, marriage is a symbol

People use the "it's a ring it doesn't matter " yet will throw down half a grand for a new console no questions asked

Smh

Most people don't just "throw down half a grand no questions asked" and, even if they did, $500 is only a fraction of what a ring will run you.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

You're not buying her. WTF!

It is a deposit to prove to her parents that I hold much gold and so can afford many pigs and cows on my estate to keep their daughter fed and clothed. It is also to show I am willing to let their household hold a trinket of much value against me so I am less inclined to depart to France prior to our matrimony.
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If that was all I could afford, then no. So right now in my life, no I wouldn't feel cheap.
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Zeus posted...

$500 is only a fraction of what a ring will run you.

again this really depends on what kind of stone.

you can get a super super high quality top end gemstone ring for $500.
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Jen0125 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

$80 does seem a little low in quality

i think this is dependent on what kind of stone in the ring. you can get really decent quality gemstone rings for that much. diamonds? maybe not.

At that price, I'd be more concerned about the quality of the cut, the metal of the band and the actual manufacture of the ring.
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On one hand it is the start of a life long commitment and shouldnt be taken lightly. On the otherhand why spend 1k+ on a ring when that could go towards a honeymoon in the bahamas.

It doesnt need to be expensive it just needs to look good.
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mastermix3000 posted...

People use the "it's a ring it doesn't matter " yet will throw down half a grand for a new console no questions asked

The engagment ring doesn't mean shit, it's pure tradition and can be done away with pretty cleanly.

A wedding ring however is forever so you best not half-ass it.
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My wife's engagement ring was $589. Her wedding ring was $400 and my wedding ring was $24.


Looks like her wedding ring is more costly now. Really nice ring, and yes, I bought an engagement ring on Amazon. I'm just classy like that.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HYB4U3G/?th=1&psc=1

I got lucky buying her engagement ring online and it ended up being great. I did not get lucky on her wedding ring. It was junk and the jewels kept falling out. We sent it to the seller for repairs and it came back dented, then jewels fell out again. I took it to a local jeweler who repaired it and soldered it to her engagement ring. She did excellent work and now we're really happy with it. Don't buy rings from Allurez was the lesson I learned.
https://www.allurez.com/anniversary-gifts/diamond-and-emerald-band-stackable-ring-guard-14k-yellow-gold-0.32ct/pid/8484/17

Found my ring again now too.
https://www.amazon.com/Tungsten-Carbide-Celtic-Carved-Design/dp/B0051BO518/?th=1&psc=1

The "rule" of spending a quarter of my annual salary on a dumb piece of jewelry is a concept that I find outrageous. That money could be spent on so many other things. This is just one the reasons I'm never getting married.
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That rule isn't a requirement though and I'm sure most people are reasonable enough to not expect that.
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Spend too much and you're funding the abuse of the african blood diamond industry, spend too little and you're funding chinese industrial workhouses.
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Peterass posted...

The "rule" of spending a quarter of my annual salary on a dumb piece of jewelry is a concept that I find outrageous. That money could be spent on so many other things. This is just one the reasons I'm never getting married.

You could find someone who shares your views.
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Unless i could pick up one i thought looked amazing for that then yeah. 3 months worth of paychecks is going just a chunk to far but certainly should do better than not even half of one.
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If you find the right person, the cost won't matter.

Also - location makes a big difference. For instance - what might cost $1k in the US could be had for $250 in the Caribbean.

80 dollars is pretty cheap for most good jewelry. People like to show off their engagement rings. I get the feeling that one wouldn't be paraded around with pride unless it was one specifically asked for.
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mastermix3000 posted...

People use the "it's a ring it doesn't matter " yet will throw down half a grand for a new console no questions asked

Marginal utility, homie. To me the utility, or satisfaction, gained from a new computer is higher than that gained from a ring.
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The most costly engagement ring I have seen on someone I know was 50k. It was ridiculous. That stone was huge and so were all of the ones on the band. She loved that thing though.
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I'd rather not pay anything for a dumbass ring. The whole ring thing is the stupidest thing in the world. Everyone knows the back story behind it and knows it's complete bullshit, yet every time you bring it up they say, "Yeah but still..."

I sure as fuck ain't spending 19k on a ring.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

SunWuKung420 posted...

You're not buying her. WTF!

It is a deposit to prove to her parents that I hold much gold and so can afford many pigs and cows on my estate to keep their daughter fed and clothed. It is also to show I am willing to let their household hold a trinket of much value against me so I am less inclined to depart to France prior to our matrimony.

That is the history, tbh. If feminism was morally consistent, they would do away with it.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

People use the "it's a ring it doesn't matter " yet will throw down half a grand for a new console no questions asked

The engagment ring doesn't mean shit, it's pure tradition and can be done away with pretty cleanly.

A wedding ring however is forever so you best not half-ass it.

They're both "forever" -- barring divorce or death (thanks, Trump!) -- but the wedding band tends to be a lot cheaper since it doesn't have a stone. And they're also both "traditions" which are more symbolic than anything else. The only practical benefit is that it discourages some men from hitting on your woman (not all of them, mind you. Biden, Trump, Clinton, etc, being noteworthy exceptions.)
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The 3-month salary "rule" was definitely perpetuated by De Beers and other diamond companies to drive up their demand. It's dumb and no one should point-blank follow it, imo.
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Nah, I'd feel practical.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

It is a deposit to prove to her parents that I hold much gold and so can afford many pigs and cows on my estate to keep their daughter fed and clothed. It is also to show I am willing to let their household hold a trinket of much value against me so I am less inclined to depart to France prior to our matrimony.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

The engagment ring doesn't mean shit, it's pure tradition and can be done away with pretty cleanly.

Contradictory posts much.

Also it's the 21st century. It's a symbolic gesture towards your future spouse not to their family.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

It is a deposit to prove to her parents that I hold much gold and so can afford many pigs and cows on my estate to keep their daughter fed and clothed. It is also to show I am willing to let their household hold a trinket of much value against me so I am less inclined to depart to France prior to our matrimony.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

The engagment ring doesn't mean shit, it's pure tradition and can be done away with pretty cleanly.

Contradictory posts much.

Also it's the 21st century. It's a symbolic gesture towards your future spouse not to their family.

Like it or not, but families are still involved in the process.
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I think you seem to be confusing wedding/engagement rings with dowry.

Yes

Would you feel cheap accepting an $80 engagement ring?
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Zeus posted...

They're both "forever" -- barring divorce or death (thanks, Trump!) -- but the wedding band tends to be a lot cheaper since it doesn't have a stone. And they're also both "traditions" which are more symbolic than anything else. The only practical benefit is that it discourages some men from hitting on your woman (not all of them, mind you. Biden, Trump, Clinton, etc, being noteworthy exceptions.)

An engagement ring is for proposal to wedding, after it's a pretty trinket, it's fine to sell that off if times get tough as it doesn't hold current value. All issues are sentimental.

A wedding ring is from wedding til death/divorce as you said. It is given to be worn for the duration of the relationship and is representative of the relationship from now on. If you sold/lost your wedding ring it would have implications to the state of your relationship currently. It has real world present symbology so the care put in to the choice of ring is far more significant.
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SushiSquid posted...

I think you seem to be confusing wedding/engagement rings with dowry.

Nah, dowry is to buy in to a rich person's family, it's to offset status.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

SushiSquid posted...

I think you seem to be confusing wedding/engagement rings with dowry.

Nah, dowry is to buy in to a rich person's family, it's to offset status.

Nope.
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Nobody's talking to you, Sunny.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Nobody's talking to you, Sunny.

I should have never engaged you. Every time you post,


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Yes, completely. I've spent more on costumes I threw away after doing a Warrior Dash.

Also, Tungsten looks pretty sweet.

http://www.tungstenaffinity.com/Tungsten-Wedding-Bands-s/367.htm
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RCtheWSBC posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

People use the "it's a ring it doesn't matter " yet will throw down half a grand for a new console no questions asked

Marginal utility, homie. To me the utility, or satisfaction, gained from a new computer is higher than that gained from a ring.

What if...now hear me out here. What if someone asked their partner to marry them with a 2k PC?!?!?!
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AllstarSniper32 posted...

RCtheWSBC posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

People use the "it's a ring it doesn't matter " yet will throw down half a grand for a new console no questions asked

Marginal utility, homie. To me the utility, or satisfaction, gained from a new computer is higher than that gained from a ring.

What if...now hear me out here. What if someone asked their partner to marry them with a 2k PC?!?!?!

I do!
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DrPrimemaster posted...

Tungsten looks pretty sweet.

I'm getting a tungsten ring inlaid with a band each of ironwood and meteorite.
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RCtheWSBC posted...

AllstarSniper32 posted...

RCtheWSBC posted...

mastermix3000 posted...

People use the "it's a ring it doesn't matter " yet will throw down half a grand for a new console no questions asked

Marginal utility, homie. To me the utility, or satisfaction, gained from a new computer is higher than that gained from a ring.

What if...now hear me out here. What if someone asked their partner to marry them with a 2k PC?!?!?!

I do!

lol!
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