Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 11- Winter needs to come faster

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I think that's the first time I said "fuck you" to Nana, I can't remember what topic it was but he definitely said almost exactly that to prompt it.

Apologies i did not intend to start this again.

Nanahara715 posted...

Big mondo chunks of your "notes" are directly transposed into your post. Grammar is slightly different, but if I ran those through a plagiarism detector they wouldn't pass.

Now he's accusing of plagiarizing my own notes. What the shit is wrong with you.

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Well and Puns. Puns feels like such a sure thing that I forgot about him and thought I'd listed everybody else in the game.

Speaking of Puns, I'd love to see some up-to-date thoughts from him. Been radio silence there for an awful long time.

Really now, I've been on the same schedule since day 1. Some days we go out for lunch, other days not.
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What is the point of feeling so personally upset with Nana if you're so convinced he's scum
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I didn't say you were avoiding the topic or anything, I just want you around because I trust that you're town.

Leo3L posted...

What is the point of feeling so personally upset with Nana if you're so convinced he's scum

Because there's a chance that he's not and that he's actually legitimately questioning my ability to capably participate in this game on my own.

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Big mondo chunks of your "notes" are directly transposed into your post. Grammar is slightly different, but if I ran those through a plagiarism detector they wouldn't pass.

Now he's accusing of plagiarizing my own notes. What the shit is wrong with you.

?

Are you just being dense?

Like, if me saying your "notes" and "post" are literally the same is an issue, I'm going to put them in a plagiarism detector and tell you EXACTLY how similar they are.
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They are not literally the same, as I have very patiently explained many times, and as you have not acknowledged once.

Read "very patiently" with a twinge of irony for maximum effect

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Leo3L posted...

What is the point of feeling so personally upset with Nana if you're so convinced he's scum

Because there's a chance that he's not and that he's actually legitimately questioning my ability to capably participate in this game on my own.

Hes not questioning anything if you are town though. If you are town its a horrible misread on his part.

Leafeon13N posted...

If you are town its a horrible misread on his part.

This is on purpose.

VeryInsane posted...

I'm wondering, for those saying Nana is scum, who is his scum buddy

In order of likelihood, I think Red > KBM > You >>> Death

If there's a scum/scum act going on I think Nana/KBM is more likely than Nana/MI.
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Anyway I'm going to stop letting myself get goaded by Nana, I'm sorry. I said I was going to step away but then Red was wondering aloud why I wasn't here and I got dragged back into it.

Leo3L posted...

Leo3L posted...

If the scum team was Red/Nana, it could have been town KBM mislynched over Han pretty easily.

I mean, you just gun this, right? It's pretty defensible, who's going to be that mad KBM got mislynched?

3 vs 5, MYLO today, try to win on power paranoia?

I don't think I got any satisfactory arguments against this.

I might have missed this because I keep accidentally ignoring MI though!
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Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Definitely. You have to take the shot there. Assuming they have a rber of course. You knock out a cop and if other power claims they are now rbd forever.

And you just eat a watcher claim and sac Chris?

Actually, if Immy is scum, there's no reason SHAd couldn't have killed Stan and Chris used his shot on Scare.

Chris claimed vig immediately on day 2.

Chris was scum.

Chris got shot by Town vig.
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bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Definitely. You have to take the shot there. Assuming they have a rber of course. You knock out a cop and if other power claims they are now rbd forever.

And you just eat a watcher claim and sac Chris?

Actually, if Immy is scum, there's no reason SHAd couldn't have killed Stan and Chris used his shot on Scare.

Chris claimed vig immediately on day 2.

Chris was scum.

Chris got shot by Town vig.

Uh, yeah, but this is immaterial to watcher fear.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Big mondo chunks of your "notes" are directly transposed into your post. Grammar is slightly different, but if I ran those through a plagiarism detector they wouldn't pass.

Now he's accusing of plagiarizing my own notes. What the shit is wrong with you.

?

Are you just being dense?

Like, if me saying your "notes" and "post" are literally the same is an issue, I'm going to put them in a plagiarism detector and tell you EXACTLY how similar they are.

you know
I dont get why this makes KBM scummier to begin with
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Death you've been pretty quiet and I know you may be sleeping soon

Where are you leaning? What are your thoughts on the game?
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Copy Leaks says the two posts have 422 words in common and are 72.9% identical.

Source: https://copyleaks.com/compare/two-documents/c0c063a9-9428-4277-8215-0f0335d13ef0

Highlighted sections are literally identical.
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If KBM doesn't get lynched tonight I will be somewhat put out
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Nanahara715 posted...

Copy Leaks says the two posts have 422 words in common and are 72.9% identical.

Source: https://copyleaks.com/compare/two-documents/c0c063a9-9428-4277-8215-0f0335d13ef0

Highlighted sections are literally identical.

It's almost like I took my three hours of notes, copy/pasted them into Word, and edited it into comprehensible sentences!

Oh, wait, that's exactly what I did.

Leo3L posted...

Leo3L posted...

Leo3L posted...

If the scum team was Red/Nana, it could have been town KBM mislynched over Han pretty easily.

I mean, you just gun this, right? It's pretty defensible, who's going to be that mad KBM got mislynched?

3 vs 5, MYLO today, try to win on power paranoia?

I don't think I got any satisfactory arguments against this.

I might have missed this because I keep accidentally ignoring MI though!

Why not lynch Han and get credit for it? He had town gunning for him already and wasn't particularly stellar as scum this game, tbh. KBM doesn't become harder to lynch. And as Nana himself pointed out, Tracker was definitely expendable.

Or maybe I'm wrong and it really is Nana/MI or Nana/death.
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htaeD posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Big mondo chunks of your "notes" are directly transposed into your post. Grammar is slightly different, but if I ran those through a plagiarism detector they wouldn't pass.

Now he's accusing of plagiarizing my own notes. What the shit is wrong with you.

?

Are you just being dense?

Like, if me saying your "notes" and "post" are literally the same is an issue, I'm going to put them in a plagiarism detector and tell you EXACTLY how similar they are.

you know
I dont get why this makes KBM scummier to begin with

It doesn't, but it's pissing me off that KBM is insinuating that adding "meanwhile" in front of a paragraph or adding an extra space between paragraphs or changing the word "goes" to "going" means that the two posts aren't literally saying the exact same shit is asinine, and then insinuating that me "lying about the two posts not being EXACTLY IDENTICAL DOWN TO THE SAME FUCKING WORD" means I'm lying scum is ridiculous and just an excuse to vote for me.
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Topic 5, this is the grand total of Han and KBM "interacting" despite there being a period of time they were both posting:

"KBM is a good choice. Was on my radar yesterday and I feel like she fell off because a bunch of people were saying "KBM is obvtown guys" and then she disappeared.

The argument was that she couldn't fake her anger, but her first post this day felt like I was watching an Anakin scene in episode 2."

-Han

"I have no earthly idea what you mean by this comment."

-KBM

Han does his daily "KBM is scummy now to never mention her again" and KBM goes "I don't get this analogy"

Topic 5 continues to give me a VIBE of unnatural avoidance.
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Nanahara715 posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Definitely. You have to take the shot there. Assuming they have a rber of course. You knock out a cop and if other power claims they are now rbd forever.

And you just eat a watcher claim and sac Chris?

Actually, if Immy is scum, there's no reason SHAd couldn't have killed Stan and Chris used his shot on Scare.

Chris claimed vig immediately on day 2.

Chris was scum.

Chris got shot by Town vig.

Uh, yeah, but this is immaterial to watcher fear.

???

He literally claimed his shot.
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I'm not sure what nana just posted but i move to ban such devices in the future. Make your own arguments dont use outside tools to make them for you.

VeryInsane posted...

Death you've been pretty quiet and I know you may be sleeping soon

Where are you leaning? What are your thoughts on the game?

still leaning KBM
its what I felt day4, and I dont see many reasons to think otherwise
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Copy Leaks says the two posts have 422 words in common and are 72.9% identical.

Source: https://copyleaks.com/compare/two-documents/c0c063a9-9428-4277-8215-0f0335d13ef0

Highlighted sections are literally identical.

It's almost like I took my three hours of notes, copy/pasted them into Word, and edited it into comprehensible sentences!

Oh, wait, that's exactly what I did.

*throws my fucking hands in the air*

THEN WHY WERE YOU SO FUCKING OFFENDED WHEN I SAID THEY WOULD BE THE SAME WHEN I PUT THEM IN A PLAGIARISM CHECKER?

WHY THE FUCK DOES THE FACT THAT YOU CHANGED WORDS NOT MEAN THAT YOU LITERALLY SAID THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING?
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Nanahara715 posted...

It doesn't, but it's pissing me off that KBM is insinuating that adding "meanwhile" in front of a paragraph or adding an extra space between paragraphs or changing the word "goes" to "going" means that the two posts aren't literally saying the exact same shit is asinine, and then insinuating that me "lying about the two posts not being EXACTLY IDENTICAL DOWN TO THE SAME FUCKING WORD" means I'm lying scum is ridiculous and just an excuse to vote for me.

This is just not what I'm doing.

Nana are you SERIOUSLY having this much trouble parsing what I'm trying to say? Nobody else is so it seems really fucking unlikely this isn't an act.

you know
at this point it would be pretty expected of Nana and KBM two to see each other as scum anyway

this anger here and now feels like its wasting time
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I did ask Han again later what that analogy meant. I think someone else had to tell me, though.

I don't understand nor care about this argument in the slightest. I'm reading old topics, that's where the gold lies.
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bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Definitely. You have to take the shot there. Assuming they have a rber of course. You knock out a cop and if other power claims they are now rbd forever.

And you just eat a watcher claim and sac Chris?

Actually, if Immy is scum, there's no reason SHAd couldn't have killed Stan and Chris used his shot on Scare.

Chris claimed vig immediately on day 2.

Chris was scum.

Chris got shot by Town vig.

Uh, yeah, but this is immaterial to watcher fear.

???

He literally claimed his shot.

He literally DID NOT claim his shot.

He claimed he shot Puns.

If Persistent means he can't be redirected, then he certainly DID NOT shoot Puns.
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bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Definitely. You have to take the shot there. Assuming they have a rber of course. You knock out a cop and if other power claims they are now rbd forever.

And you just eat a watcher claim and sac Chris?

Actually, if Immy is scum, there's no reason SHAd couldn't have killed Stan and Chris used his shot on Scare.

Chris claimed vig immediately on day 2.

Chris was scum.

Chris got shot by Town vig.

Uh, yeah, but this is immaterial to watcher fear.

???

He literally claimed his shot.

In other words, Chris immediately announced that he shot the cop. I don't think he was afraid of people catching him.
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What I don't understand is, why does Nana want my notes to say something different than my post?

Oh, right, because he wants to advance the narrative that it was written by someone else because that's like the cornerstone of his entire argument that I'm scum.

Am I seriously the only one who sees how ludicrously transparent this is?

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Nana are you SERIOUSLY having this much trouble parsing what I'm trying to say? Nobody else is so it seems really fucking unlikely this isn't an act.

You're saying your post and your notes are "Not identical". They contain identical content. The fact that one is formatted differently means jack shit.
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

What I don't understand is, why does Nana want my notes to say something different than my post?

Oh, right, because he wants to advance the narrative that it was written by someone else because that's like the cornerstone of his entire argument that I'm scum.

Am I seriously the only one who sees how ludicrously transparent this is?

YOU ARE THE ONE WHO SAID THEY WERE NOT THE FUCKING SAME AND THREW A HISSY FIT WHEN I SAID THEY WERE THE SAME
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Identical means identical. One hundred percent.

They are not identical.

Nanahara715 posted...

He literally DID NOT claim his shot.

He claimed he shot Puns.

If Persistent means he can't be redirected, then he certainly DID NOT shoot Puns.

....the point is you were saying "but what about watcher fear" to which I'm saying "obviously chris didn't give a fuck about being seen targeting a corpse when he began the day by announcing he shot someone". And by claiming vig as scum that's a pretty good sign he wasn't too worried about dying, if you ask me.
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bng_mmmk posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Definitely. You have to take the shot there. Assuming they have a rber of course. You knock out a cop and if other power claims they are now rbd forever.

And you just eat a watcher claim and sac Chris?

Actually, if Immy is scum, there's no reason SHAd couldn't have killed Stan and Chris used his shot on Scare.

Chris claimed vig immediately on day 2.

Chris was scum.

Chris got shot by Town vig.

Uh, yeah, but this is immaterial to watcher fear.

???

He literally claimed his shot.

In other words, Chris immediately announced that he shot the cop. I don't think he was afraid of people catching him.

He announced he was redirected onto the cop. That's entirely different from "Hey guys I intentionally targeted the cop with a vig shot, my bad."
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I imagine this weird notes argument is way easier to defend against than the undefendable "never interacted with Han" argument
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Identical means identical. One hundred percent.

They are not identical.

How are you going to say "Nana wants them to not be identical" and then complain that I said "They are identical"?
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Leo3L posted...

I imagine this weird notes argument is way easier to defend against than the undefendable "never interacted with Han" argument

Dude I've never been able to read Han. Keep reading and I start complaining about this.

[3] Nana: KBM, (Leo), (MI), puns, MI
[2] KBM: Nana, Leo
[0] MI: (Leo), (Nana)

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch! Day ends on Today at 9 PM (About 3 hours from now)
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Leafeon13N posted...

Now, i cant find the exact post but... Kbm got really mad when nana insinuated that another scum was typing her words for her.

I can't help but feel there may have been some slip there.

Leafeon13N posted...

Vengeful_KBM posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Now, i cant find the exact post but... Kbm got really mad when nana insinuated that another scum was typing her words for her.

I can't help but feel there may have been some slip there.

Not rehash old wounds but im bringing this up again.

Do you want the rest of my raw notes? That took three hours straight of work. No one fucking wrote it for me.

Im not saying someone wrote it for you. I'm saying the idea that someone wrote it for you should be absurd because if you are town there is no one to write it for you. But the angle of your anger somewhat implies differently.

Scare and Stan really like Red for making these posts because Scare had similar thoughts he could not articulate.
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again, if you are only arguing something that annoys you, maybe just drop it Nana
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I'm telling you, watcher claiming there is a huge win for scum. But then again, if they know there is a bus driver, it means watcher would have had to have targetted puns.

So there couldn't have been any watcher fear there from chris.

bng_mmmk posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

He literally DID NOT claim his shot.

He claimed he shot Puns.

If Persistent means he can't be redirected, then he certainly DID NOT shoot Puns.

....the point is you were saying "but what about watcher fear" to which I'm saying "obviously chris didn't give a fuck about being seen targeting a corpse when he began the day by announcing he shot someone". And by claiming vig as scum that's a pretty good sign he wasn't too worried about dying, if you ask me.

Seen by who? If bus driver is scum, he can't be seen by watcher, and has a built in excuse for tracker.

My argument is he wouldn't be worried about being seen AT ALL because scum set it up to not be able to be seen at all.
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