Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 11- Winter needs to come faster

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Well, here we go.

Leo is town.

VI is town.

Puns is effectively Town.

I don't think anyone believes me and MI are scum together.

This means that if I'm scun, the only viable scum partner for me is Red (it also means that the only viable scum partner for MI is red as well, for the same reasons)

If I were scum (and thus, if MI were town), this would mean that Han, Red, and I were scumbuddies.

The first implication of this trio is that the end of day hammer on Shad was double scum voting early (Red and Han) to end day early on a scummate (Shad) was planned. Ultimately, it's something that would have been discussed on the scum boards and had the blessing of the other members (in this hypothetical, me and Chris).

Multiple players such as Leo, Scare, and MI have been scum with me and know I'm religious about being up to date on the scum board, so it would be unlikely, neigh, impossible I don't know about an impending hammer.

As such, to accept that Red/Han/myself were scum together means that specifically, the visceral reaction I had when VI prodded me the following day about Han using an alt would have needed to be completely faked; this was the conversation we had about elitism.

Immy insinuated that it would have been and that I'm capable of this as either alignment - he has to say this because he's counting on my ML. However, there was a very specific conversation we had Day 1 about this same thing where I argued that I don't fake anger as scum- he gave an example (rather, I told him what he was thinking of), and we agreed it was actual anger, and he dropped it. That said, he's likely to pickup and push that narrative again.
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That's a pretty disappointing WIFOM argument after all the hype. I suppose the day one thing is more interesting. I'll have to reread the game where you fake claimed cop and won to see if you were angry there. I, uh, don't suppose you remember which game that was? >_> Crystal chronicles or 2016 mafia, I think
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That being said, I could see MI/Red pretty easily.
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I'm disappointed Red posted so briefly because I wanted to see him try and argue MI/Nana, or maybe he would have gone after VI if I had waited longer.
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Leo3L posted...

That's a pretty disappointing WIFOM argument after all the hype. I suppose the day one thing is more interesting. I'll have to reread the game where you fake claimed cop and won to see if you were angry there. I, uh, don't suppose you remember which game that was? >_> Crystal chronicles or 2016 mafia, I think

It was Chrystal Chronicles. You only need to read the last day because I only have like 10 posts until the final day.

There's more to my argument above, to be sure.
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I don't think I ever specifically mentioned that part, I was more thinking the beginning of Day 1 and your spat with Chris
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VeryInsane posted...

I don't think I ever specifically mentioned that part, I was more thinking the beginning of Day 1 and your spat with Chris

You asked if I thought y'all were elitist and I trashed on Han heavily for the elitist bullshit at the end of day 3.
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I want MI to respond to Nana before I say what I think of that post.
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bng_mmmk posted...

I want MI to respond to Nana before I say what I think of that post.

Which post?
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351
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Leo why did Stan scan vi?

I'm not doubting you but it just seems like an off choice
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Tbqh I don't think 351 even dignifies a response
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My Immortal posted...

Leo why did Stan scan vi?

I'm not doubting you but it just seems like an off choice

That means it's a good scan
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For the record, there's nothing truly ironclad preventing a Nana/MI scum team. Just sporadic bussing.
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My Immortal posted...

Tbqh I don't think 351 even dignifies a response

..oh ok.

Well, what I was thinking is I'm not so sure a scum team of Han/Chris/Red would get Nana's blessing on whether or not to end day 24 hours early when shad was dead. It's usually beneficial to scum to end the day early and that's not something on the level that vets would have to plan out per se.
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My Immortal posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

You guys no damn well i dont like when people show up to the topic and dont play. I tell you guys game after game i want to murder the bokos and pjs of the world when they dont participate. Then FD shows back up and gives us nothing

Leafeon13N posted...

i only have had a chance to give brief skims over the topic. I dont know exactly what has gone on.

I know you've had real life stuff going on, but still.

I literally told you my free time starts tonight. I haven't hit that point yet.

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

In summary, I'm pretty sure nana just threw the game as scum.

The other part of that, and what really is my point. Nana said that regardless of whether you think me or nana is scum today, we should lynch MI.

Leo3L posted...

For the record, there's nothing truly ironclad preventing a Nana/MI scum team. Just sporadic bussing.

Yeah, very true.

Nana, you never mentioned why you kept your vote on Chris despite not actually thinking he was scum for a while on Day 1. Why is that?
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Leafeon13N posted...

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

How is this any different from your and MI's "the 2 of the 3 choices who aren't me" ?
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Hey red/Nana/MI can all three of you restate flavor
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Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

How is this any different from your and MI's "the 2 of the 3 choices who aren't me" ?

Leo, read his post. He calls you, puns, vi town. That leaves a choice of nana mi scumteam or red mi scumteam. Eithet way according to him MI is scum.

VeryInsane posted...

Hey red/Nana/MI can all three of you restate flavor

Samwell Tarly

Leafeon13N posted...

Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

How is this any different from your and MI's "the 2 of the 3 choices who aren't me" ?

Leo, read his post. He calls you, puns, vi town. That leaves a choice of nana mi scumteam or red mi scumteam. Eithet way according to him MI is scum.

He suggested you/him as viable oddly enough
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VeryInsane posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

How is this any different from your and MI's "the 2 of the 3 choices who aren't me" ?

Leo, read his post. He calls you, puns, vi town. That leaves a choice of nana mi scumteam or red mi scumteam. Eithet way according to him MI is scum.

He suggested you/him as viable oddly enough

Then I'll happily burn nana to the ground. Dont blow the game when scum is handing it to you.

Leafeon13N posted...

Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

How is this any different from your and MI's "the 2 of the 3 choices who aren't me" ?

Leo, read his post. He calls you, puns, vi town. That leaves a choice of nana mi scumteam or red mi scumteam. Eithet way according to him MI is scum.

You'll have to quote an bold it, because what I said was:

"This means that if I'm scun, the only viable scum partner for me is Red (it also means that the only viable scum partner for MI is red as well, for the same reasons)"
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Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

How is this any different from your and MI's "the 2 of the 3 choices who aren't me" ?

Leo, read his post. He calls you, puns, vi town. That leaves a choice of nana mi scumteam or red mi scumteam. Eithet way according to him MI is scum.

You'll have to quote an bold it, because what I said was:

"This means that if I'm scun, the only viable scum partner for me is Red (it also means that the only viable scum partner for MI is red as well, for the same reasons)"

Why isn't a MI/Nana scumteam viable? Your own words.
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VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

How is this any different from your and MI's "the 2 of the 3 choices who aren't me" ?

Leo, read his post. He calls you, puns, vi town. That leaves a choice of nana mi scumteam or red mi scumteam. Eithet way according to him MI is scum.

You'll have to quote an bold it, because what I said was:

"This means that if I'm scun, the only viable scum partner for me is Red (it also means that the only viable scum partner for MI is red as well, for the same reasons)"

Why isn't a MI/Nana scumteam viable? Your own words.

In theory it is.

And Red is right, I called Immy scum because I think he's scum and would absolutely lynch him (or Red) today
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VeryInsane posted...

Hey red/Nana/MI can all three of you restate flavor

Arys Oakheart.

Flavor indicates I followed some woman and betrayed Kingsguard, heavily implies thinking with my dick, and implies I was killed by someone with an axe.
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Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

How is this any different from your and MI's "the 2 of the 3 choices who aren't me" ?

Leo, read his post. He calls you, puns, vi town. That leaves a choice of nana mi scumteam or red mi scumteam. Eithet way according to him MI is scum.

You'll have to quote an bold it, because what I said was:

"This means that if I'm scun, the only viable scum partner for me is Red (it also means that the only viable scum partner for MI is red as well, for the same reasons)"

Why isn't a MI/Nana scumteam viable? Your own words.

In theory it is.

And Red is right, I called Immy scum because I think he's scum and would absolutely lynch him (or Red) today

And yes, what im saying is, you basically made the argument MI should be lynched today.

VeryInsane posted...

Leo3L posted...

For the record, there's nothing truly ironclad preventing a Nana/MI scum team. Just sporadic bussing.

Yeah, very true.

Nana, you never mentioned why you kept your vote on Chris despite not actually thinking he was scum for a while on Day 1. Why is that?

I had a very specific post on this involving competing interpretations of the word "tipping." This was something I was asked, but don't remember if it was on Day 2 or Day 3.
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Without realizing it, mind you.

Leafeon13N posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

VeryInsane posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Also, and its nanas words not mine. According to him it has to be a scumteam of me and MI.

If we sre still running the assumption puns is town, which i believe we are. Nana literally just told us MI is scum.

How is this any different from your and MI's "the 2 of the 3 choices who aren't me" ?

Leo, read his post. He calls you, puns, vi town. That leaves a choice of nana mi scumteam or red mi scumteam. Eithet way according to him MI is scum.

You'll have to quote an bold it, because what I said was:

"This means that if I'm scun, the only viable scum partner for me is Red (it also means that the only viable scum partner for MI is red as well, for the same reasons)"

Why isn't a MI/Nana scumteam viable? Your own words.

In theory it is.

And Red is right, I called Immy scum because I think he's scum and would absolutely lynch him (or Red) today

And yes, what im saying is, you basically made the argument MI should be lynched today.

No
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Yes, you did. Your post from your pov is literally that me and mi are scum. You don't have any other options.

Leafeon13N posted...

Without realizing it, mind you.

I call out two hypothetical scum teams:

Me/You
MI/You

The prudent course in this scenario is to lynch you.

I am ok with lynching MI because I feel he's scum anyways, but that's not the argument I'd been making or implied
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Leafeon13N posted...

Yes, you did. Your post from your pov is literally that me and mi are scum. You don't have any other options.

Yes.

I believe you and MI are scum.

Not sure why you think that means "lynch MI instead of Red"
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Nana fron your pov, if you were town, me and you isnt an option

I'm confused. I'm Town. VI is Town. Puns is like 95% Town.

Nana can only argue MI/Red
MI can only argue Nana/Red
Red can only argue MI/Nana

Why is Red going AHA!!!!!
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Otherwise you literally admitted from your pov you aren't town, in which case you die.

Nana just tried to argue that he was scum, leo.

With all the bussing shenanigans that MI has claimed, I would be shocked if he was just a straight up roleblocker.

So my guess is that you are the roleblocker.

As such, I would rather lynch you than MI today, to allow Leo access to Death's scan, which may or may not help.

Furthermore, there's a risk that MI is actually a full time psychic, based on his claim, so scum may already know who Death scanned
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Leo for the love of everything ask someone else to verify my thoughts if you are confused, because im pretty sure nana just imploded.

Nanahara715 posted...

With all the bussing shenanigans that MI has claimed, I would be shocked if he was just a straight up roleblocker.

So my guess is that you are the roleblocker.

As such, I would rather lynch you than MI today, to allow Leo access to Death's scan, which may or may not help.

Furthermore, there's a risk that MI is actually a full time psychic, based on his claim, so scum may already know who Death scanned

We literally confirmed a bus drive happened.

Leafeon13N posted...

Nana fron your pov, if you were town, me and you isnt an option

Unfortunately for the rest of the game, they don't know I'm Town.

To illustrate why I'm town, I chose to posit a hypothetical scenario to the other town players (VI, Leo, Puns) so that they can evaluate the merits of both and make a decision.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

With all the bussing shenanigans that MI has claimed, I would be shocked if he was just a straight up roleblocker.

So my guess is that you are the roleblocker.

As such, I would rather lynch you than MI today, to allow Leo access to Death's scan, which may or may not help.

Furthermore, there's a risk that MI is actually a full time psychic, based on his claim, so scum may already know who Death scanned

We literally confirmed a bus drive happened.

Being a full time psychic doesn't preclude other abilities. Host has used full time psychic in addition to other abilities before, see GOT2
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Leo please for the love of everything read all the stupid coming out of nana. Pretty sure he just threw the game.

Leafeon13N posted...

Leo please for the love of everything read all the stupid coming out of nana. Pretty sure he just threw the game.

Then with your infinite wisdom, vote for me? Why do you need validation from Leo to place a vote on me if you're "pretty sure I just threw the game"?
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I'm busy right now, I'll catch up on this evening later.
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Like, is Red convinced that I'm scum because explained why a hypothetical scum team of me/Red/Han didn't make sense?
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