Board 8 > A Feast For Crows Mafia: Topic 11- Winter needs to come faster

(+) Yeah! (+)

It's two of:

Nana, Red, MI

"How hard can it be to not screw this game up"
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Leo3L posted...

It's two of:

Nana, Red, MI

"How hard can it be to not screw this game up"

So about that VI read?
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My Immortal posted...

I guess I have done a pretty piss poor job explaining my thoughts this game because turbo is referencing exact posts I have already.

But as long as he's seeing the red/Nana light, I won't complain.

Which posts?
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bng_mmmk posted...

Leo3L posted...

It's two of:

Nana, Red, MI

"How hard can it be to not screw this game up"

So about that VI read?

Not yet. I want everyone to explain their own VI reads before I explain my soul read. Scum desperately needs him as a mislynch option so I want to see who's going to go after despite my protection, or who avoids him out of what seems like fear and and because they have a good reason to think he's town. And yes, explaining the plan is part of plan.

RED

NANA

MI

What do you think of:

VI
VI
VI
VI
VI
VI
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Red kept saying we had too much power, right?
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Leo3L posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Leo3L posted...

It's two of:

Nana, Red, MI

"How hard can it be to not screw this game up"

So about that VI read?

Not yet. I want everyone to explain their own VI reads before I explain my soul read. Scum desperately needs him as a mislynch option so I want to see who's going to go after despite my protection, or who avoids him out of what seems like fear and and because they have a good reason to think he's town. And yes, explaining the plan is part of plan.

RED

NANA

MI

What do you think of:

VI
VI
VI
VI
VI
VI

I love this
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That is a really wonderful post lol

the 6 instead of traditional 5 is a nice touch
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bng_mmmk posted...

My Immortal posted...

I guess I have done a pretty piss poor job explaining my thoughts this game because turbo is referencing exact posts I have already.

But as long as he's seeing the red/Nana light, I won't complain.

Which posts?

Chris and red both defending Nana d1
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Leo3L posted...

It's two of:

Nana, Red, MI

"How hard can it be to not screw this game up"

Yeah. Guess you/Puns/I are gonna have to be a triumvirate. If either of you two are scum games already lost. (And I don't really think so either)
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Leo3L posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Leo3L posted...

It's two of:

Nana, Red, MI

"How hard can it be to not screw this game up"

So about that VI read?

Not yet. I want everyone to explain their own VI reads before I explain my soul read. Scum desperately needs him as a mislynch option so I want to see who's going to go after despite my protection, or who avoids him out of what seems like fear and and because they have a good reason to think he's town. And yes, explaining the plan is part of plan.

RED

NANA

MI

What do you think of:

VI
VI
VI
VI
VI
VI

I've no interest in lynching VI.

I actually challenge the assumption that VI is "desperately needed to be a ML". If scum is two of me, MI, and Red, they don't even need VI as a ML because they have [me, but from a non-me perspective, whichever of the three isn't scum].
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VeryInsane posted...

Leo3L posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

Leo3L posted...

It's two of:

Nana, Red, MI

"How hard can it be to not screw this game up"

So about that VI read?

Not yet. I want everyone to explain their own VI reads before I explain my soul read. Scum desperately needs him as a mislynch option so I want to see who's going to go after despite my protection, or who avoids him out of what seems like fear and and because they have a good reason to think he's town. And yes, explaining the plan is part of plan.

RED

NANA

MI

What do you think of:

VI
VI
VI
VI
VI
VI

I love this

My opinion on vi hasn't changed. He doesn't feel the same to me as the person I won me2 mafia alongside. And the end of D2 I'm certain was a town/town lynch that scum had Han break in order to lock VI in as the last mislynch

Obviously that changed when Chris got shot

But vis alignment hasn't.
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red did make a weird statement about Nana despite not having a lot of experience with him.

May have gotten the order completely mixed up yesterday
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I thought about putting that all in one paragraph and copy pasting it 6 times but I decided that would be to obnoxious
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I'd like to point out that I have justification to why vi is town while Nana said "he's town because scum doesn't need to ml him anyway"
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Yeah that was pretty weird. I'm glad y'all enjoyed my joke, but I screwed up one line:

"or who avoids him out of what seems like fear and and not because they have a good reason to think he's town"
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My Immortal posted...

I'd like to point out that I have justification to why vi is town while Nana said "he's town because scum doesn't need to ml him anyway"

Your justification is "I feel he's different from another game."
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Nanahara715 posted...

My Immortal posted...

I'd like to point out that I have justification to why vi is town while Nana said "he's town because scum doesn't need to ml him anyway"

Your justification is "I feel he's different from another game."

This is deflecting a valid point against you by instead sayng "YEAH WELL SO DOES THAT GUY"

Why do you have no interest in lynching VI? Didn't you see confirmed scum Han vote last second to lynch town over him?
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Anyways, there's an argument that I've been wanting to make but have vasciliated back and forth on because I'm not entirely sure it's kosher.

Basically, why end of day 3/start of day 4 means you can't buy me/Red/Han as scum buddies.

I'll make the argument if everyone, and I mean everyone, consents to it. I'm not dealing with bullshit from Chris, Han, or whoever after game saying that what I did or said was unfair and cost them the game.
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I have no idea what you're referring to, but if it isn't modkillable and the alternative is town losing the game...scum is already going to say the existence of my role was unfair and cost them them the game.
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Leo3L posted...

I have no idea what you're referring to, but if it isn't modkillable and the alternative is town losing the game...scum is already going to say the existence of my role was unfair and cost them them the game.

I feel as though it isn't modkillable, but there's no tangible difference to me getting modkilled and town losing and me getting mislynched and town losing.
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My Immortal posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

My Immortal posted...

I guess I have done a pretty piss poor job explaining my thoughts this game because turbo is referencing exact posts I have already.

But as long as he's seeing the red/Nana light, I won't complain.

Which posts?

Chris and red both defending Nana d1

Oh. I wasn't really taking into account stuff people said recently when I was looking back at D1. Just seeing what happened on that day.

How confident are you it's exactly red/nana? Who would you lynch first and why?
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VeryInsane posted...

Leo3L posted...

It's two of:

Nana, Red, MI

"How hard can it be to not screw this game up"

Yeah. Guess you/Puns/I are gonna have to be a triumvirate. If either of you two are scum games already lost. (And I don't really think so either)

I will supremely lol if I end up shot in this game
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Puns: thoughts on post 318?
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Nanahara715 posted...

Anyways, there's an argument that I've been wanting to make but have vasciliated back and forth on because I'm not entirely sure it's kosher.

Basically, why end of day 3/start of day 4 means you can't buy me/Red/Han as scum buddies.

I'll make the argument if everyone, and I mean everyone, consents to it. I'm not dealing with bullshit from Chris, Han, or whoever after game saying that what I did or said was unfair and cost them the game.

I already dislike the approach but I also don't really understand how I'm supposed to have an opinion on it without knowing. If you don't think it's modkillable then go for it I guess.
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You can always ask the host
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Leo3L posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

My Immortal posted...

I'd like to point out that I have justification to why vi is town while Nana said "he's town because scum doesn't need to ml him anyway"

Your justification is "I feel he's different from another game."

This is deflecting a valid point against you by instead sayng "YEAH WELL SO DOES THAT GUY"

Why do you have no interest in lynching VI? Didn't you see confirmed scum Han vote last second to lynch town over him?

Noted that Nana seems to have ignored this in favor of his weird "consent to argument" thing
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Leo3L posted...

Leo3L posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

My Immortal posted...

I'd like to point out that I have justification to why vi is town while Nana said "he's town because scum doesn't need to ml him anyway"

Your justification is "I feel he's different from another game."

This is deflecting a valid point against you by instead sayng "YEAH WELL SO DOES THAT GUY"

Why do you have no interest in lynching VI? Didn't you see confirmed scum Han vote last second to lynch town over him?

Noted that Nana seems to have ignored this in favor of his weird "consent to argument" thing

I've no interest because I'm convinced scum is MI/Red. If either of those reads are wrong, it's game over anyways. No point to doing anything with VI because it won't change my mind.
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My Immortal posted...

My opinion on vi hasn't changed. He doesn't feel the same to me as the person I won me2 mafia alongside. And the end of D2 I'm certain was a town/town lynch that scum had Han break in order to lock VI in as the last mislynch

Obviously that changed when Chris got shot

But vis alignment hasn't.

So again, with this whole Chris dying thing. How big of a surprise could it have been, really? That's what I was saying yesterday about why even ask whether scum had watcher fear for chris when he claimed vig.

He claimed vig!
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I'm leaning towards lynching Red today. Convince me otherwise.

Not voting yet because today, unlike all those other days people didn't want to vote early, has some slight element of risk to it.
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bng_mmmk posted...

My Immortal posted...

My opinion on vi hasn't changed. He doesn't feel the same to me as the person I won me2 mafia alongside. And the end of D2 I'm certain was a town/town lynch that scum had Han break in order to lock VI in as the last mislynch

Obviously that changed when Chris got shot

But vis alignment hasn't.

So again, with this whole Chris dying thing. How big of a surprise could it have been, really? That's what I was saying yesterday about why even ask whether scum had watcher fear for chris when he claimed vig.

He claimed vig!

Not like there's a guaranteed vig in every game. It was a risky claim but could've paid off wonderfully
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bng_mmmk posted...

My Immortal posted...

bng_mmmk posted...

My Immortal posted...

I guess I have done a pretty piss poor job explaining my thoughts this game because turbo is referencing exact posts I have already.

But as long as he's seeing the red/Nana light, I won't complain.

Which posts?

Chris and red both defending Nana d1

Oh. I wasn't really taking into account stuff people said recently when I was looking back at D1. Just seeing what happened on that day.

How confident are you it's exactly red/nana? Who would you lynch first and why?

Fairly. I'll do archive digging tomorrow when I have more time, weekends are tough hfor me to dedicate mafia time. But I don't really see an alternate scum team left.

I'd probably lynch Nana first just because I've wanted to lynch him since day 1.
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To clarify that though

If the consensus is to lynch red today, I will not argue.
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Literally everyone in the game has pushed for me today.(at least in a subtle way, i dont think VI has come at me) . That should be a big red flag.

My Immortal posted...

To clarify that though

If the consensus is to lynch red today, I will not argue.

Wait what. Unless your near 100% certain why the hell wouldn't you argue. Consensus, especially this early, is the worst thing because it means scum is on board.

And you guys have seen my justification for my actions and I'm going to do my damndest to try to get it in your heads that I'm not scum. I don't like losing and i especially don't like losing on the thoughts of other people.

And i especially dont like people coming at me for the ffd lynch. You guys no damn well i dont like when people show up to the topic and dont play. I tell you guys game after game i want to murder the bokos and pjs of the world when they dont participate. Then FD shows back up and gives us nothing. He comes up and says he doesn't give a shit about the game. Gives nothing to his alignment. Yoh expect me to drop off as town when someone does that? Fuck no. You come to the game and act like its a joke on day 1, I'll happily burn you to the ground. I have zero regrets for the ffd lynch.

And the idea that there had to be scum on FFD's lynch? Why. Unless you think they were protecting puns that is stupid logic. You had town going hard after town and you've already seen enough flips to know that to be true. There was no need for scum on the lynch. Especially when FFD showed back up znd poured gasoline on himself.

Leafeon13N posted...

Literally everyone in the game has pushed for me today.(at least in a subtle way, i dont think VI has come at me) . That should be a big red flag.

Who is scum?
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And fuck mobile just cost me a post but im going to try to type it again.

Putting all these eggs in the ffd basket is dumb as hell. Look at day 2, chris comes in, claims. Who is it asking for a counterclaim, any of you? Hell no. Thats me, multiple times if i recall correctly. Day 3 and 4, do i do anything but help push shad and han out the door? No. Day 5 i was wrong on kbm but honestly that was a product of being in the damn dark. I didn't have a clue on kbm. I wish i had more time to dig but i didn't and for that im sorry. But you could ask anyone or maybe some of you know me well enough, i trust myself to not fuck up more than any other damn player that might replace me. If I'm going to lose I'd rather it be me than someone else,.

Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Literally everyone in the game has pushed for me today.(at least in a subtle way, i dont think VI has come at me) . That should be a big red flag.

Who is scum?

I'm not certain. Not you is all i know right now.

Out of time, will be back later.

Leo3L posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Literally everyone in the game has pushed for me today.(at least in a subtle way, i dont think VI has come at me) . That should be a big red flag.

Who is scum?

And if you wonder why i cant answer this is because i only have had a chance to give brief skims over the topic. I dont know exactly what has gone on.

Leafeon13N posted...

Literally everyone in the game has pushed for me today.(at least in a subtle way, i dont think VI has come at me) . That should be a big red flag.

Why, though? If you're scum then it just means town agrees and your buddy doesn't want to stick out by defending you. This is just straight up wifom.


As for the other posts, nothing personal here but I don't actually know you or your play much at all. And I'm not putting all my eggs in the FFD basket but I do want to read that and day 2 and it made sense to do it chronologically. I have some stuff to get done today so I couldn't do it all at once but I'll do more tonight.
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Leafeon13N posted...

You guys no damn well i dont like when people show up to the topic and dont play. I tell you guys game after game i want to murder the bokos and pjs of the world when they dont participate. Then FD shows back up and gives us nothing

Leafeon13N posted...

i only have had a chance to give brief skims over the topic. I dont know exactly what has gone on.

I know you've had real life stuff going on, but still.
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Leafeon13N posted...

And the idea that there had to be scum on FFD's lynch? Why. Unless you think they were protecting puns that is stupid logic. You had town going hard after town and you've already seen enough flips to know that to be true. There was no need for scum on the lynch. Especially when FFD showed back up znd poured gasoline on himself.

No reason there has to be scum on the lynch, but the reasoning for why it was a mostly town lynch (FFD pouting gasoline on himself) only applies to all the votes after yours.
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Not 100% certain about lynching red at this very moment

Actually contemplating Nana
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My Immortal posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

You guys no damn well i dont like when people show up to the topic and dont play. I tell you guys game after game i want to murder the bokos and pjs of the world when they dont participate. Then FD shows back up and gives us nothing

Leafeon13N posted...

i only have had a chance to give brief skims over the topic. I dont know exactly what has gone on.

I know you've had real life stuff going on, but still.

Ha
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Well, that's everyone....sort of.

The reason I think VI is 100% Town is a simple one. I could say it's because he's my MAFIA RIVAL with SECRET TELLS who was REPEATEDLY PUNCHED IN THE FACE BY SCUM CHRIS all day two, but I have a better, more succinct explanation.

VI scans Innocent.

Stan scanned him innocent N1, not Dowolf. This is not me being too cute by bluffing that a strong town read is 100% scanned innocent town. I'm not that arrogant when the game is on the line. VI scans innocent. This is not a patented Leo trick to get reactions or anything. VI scans innocent. Unless scum had two Godfathers, VI is the towniest. It is known.

I've been saving this for like a week now, trying to get some value out of it. Scum trying to stoke paranoia about VI, something like that. But alas, VI is just too obv town even without a scan. Nobody wants to make the argument even when I goad them in varying ways. But with MyLo on the line, it's time to get all info on the table for re-reads and et cetera.


HanOfTheNekos

That's always a case of mistaken identity. I'm not an ace detective, I'm just better at finding Scum than everyone else.

I mean, you're supposedly a great player but all you've done is find someone via Stan's actions.


And for what it's worth, I don't have a doubt that you're talking to the others. I still find it fishy that, aside from damning Shad, everything else you've had to say is so worthless that you should've actually 'faked' a result if you were Town because that'd be more helpful.

Leo3L

Trash talking is fun and all, but I can't help but notice that this post and your next post do nothing beneficial for town.

But hey

How do know I haven't faked an action?

Do you know for a fact Boko died from being shot and not from protecting Death or me, eh?

That would be a pretty amusing slip.

Anyway, not falling for a distraction. You have yet to put forth anything concrete ever since Shad and Chris were confirmed scum and blew up your read of the game.

Quoted for dramatic irony. Or maybe Scum knew all along? I've becoming increasingly unsubtle about thinking VI is Town each day as I get bored.
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Leo3L posted...

Well, that's everyone....sort of.

The reason I think VI is 100% Town is a simple one. I could say it's because he's my MAFIA RIVAL with SECRET TELLS who was REPEATEDLY PUNCHED IN THE FACE BY SCUM CHRIS all day two, but I have a better, more succinct explanation.

VI scans Innocent.

Stan scanned him innocent N1, not Dowolf. This is not me being too cute by bluffing that a strong town read is 100% scanned innocent town. I'm not that arrogant when the game is on the line. VI scans innocent. This is not a patented Leo trick to get reactions or anything. VI scans innocent. Unless scum had two Godfathers, VI is the towniest. It is known.

I've been saving this for like a week now, trying to get some value out of it. Scum trying to stoke paranoia about VI, something like that. But alas, VI is just too obv town even without a scan. Nobody wants to make the argument even when I goad them in varying ways. But with MyLo on the line, it's time to get all info on the table for re-reads and et cetera.

Lol!

This game

That's so awesome and cheesy. Haha. Well done my dude. I'm glad you shared this before I slog through day 2 though. That should prove pretty interesting now. Man what a ride this game has been.
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So that's why nobody on the dead masons doubted the VI

Speaking of have they been checking in now
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