Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Yu Narukami, Kirby and Tira vs. John Cena, Paine, Metabee and Rikku

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Yu Narukami, Kirby and Tira have challenged John Cena Evolved, Paine, Metabee and Rikku to a fight! Location of the fight: Mi'ihen Highroad - a dirt roadway on wide open plains. Ruins lie along the sides while the path leads through canyons, sea and mountain cliffs. Access to all the areas leading up to Mushroom Rock is allowed. Attackers will start by the Luca side, while defenders will start near the exit to Mushroom Rock.. Which side will win?

Guidelines

- The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
- The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of a pre-selected plan of battle.
- "Broken" refers to a lot of things, including insta-death, auto-effects, a variety of status effects (e.g., Imp, Silence, Stop, *not* Poison), and revival. Unless stated otherwise, nobody has them, though do use your own discretion.
- There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

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- This match will end in 24 hours.
- The following conventions are in use for match topics: www.gamefaqs.com/boards/570224-mercs/75290480/878106427

Kirby is as seen in the Kirby Super Star and Smash series. He has full use of his Smash Brothers Moveset along with the moves from his Plasma, Wheel and Ninja forms. (He has also inhaled Tira, gaining a set of moves fitting her). He cannot inhale enemy fighters nor create helpers from his abilities during the match, but can inhale anything else and will not lose access to his forms due to taking damage.

Tira is as she appears in Soul Calibur V, with access to all her moves, although she must charge her Critical Edge/Brave Edge moves before using them. She may freely switch to her Persona Isis, as it appears in Persona 4, who has only their natural non-passive skills and elemental affinities

Yu Narukami (MC) is as he appears in Persona 4. He has the persona Izanagi available, with all default skills from P4 learned in addition to all the moves from Persona 4 Arena, with the exception of his mortal blow or gameplay mechanics (invincibility frames, etc). He also can freely switch to his persona Kohryu, who only has their natural non-passive skills and elemental affinities, but Samarecarm is not available.
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~VS~

Paine is as she appears in Final Fantasy X-2, at max level and equipped with the Highroad Winds Garment Grid, packing the Warrior, Dark Knight, Songstress and Gun Mage dresspheres. She may not use Death and Break Arcana (but may use all other Arcanas freely), the Full Throttle special dressphere, Sleepy Shuffle, Brake-Dance (but NOT any other dance or song), Stone Breath and Seed Cannon (but NOT Bad Breath), and does not have access to any auto abilities that grant status effects except SOS versions.

John Cena is as he appears in WWE Immortals, in his Evolved form. He is fully upgraded, but he has no gear. He may use any attacks John Cena would and any from the game, but he needs to build meter to use his in game signatures and finisher, and they will not be unblockable here. He will gain the benefit of his passive, increasing his strength as his health diminishes because everyone loves a Cena comeback, and he will gain an additional 25% boost for each of his allies that falls in battle while he's still standing. He will be completely invisible to the enemy team until he attacks one of them, though not invulnerable and he may be perceived by other senses.

Metabee is as seen across the Medabots game series, equipped with KBT-5C Saikachis parts and his fully leveled up Kabuto medal. It may use Medaforce and Medachange, and charge Medaforce freely as seen in Medabots Infinity.

Rikku is as she appears in Final Fantasy X, equipped with Godhand and a Tercio without SOS Reflect. She has access to her own sphere grid. She has brought 5 each of Mana Tablet, Stamina Tablet and Light Curtain to battle and can use any combination of them with Use or her Mix Overdrive, provided sufficient Overdrive has been built. She has additionally brought the Samurai and Thief Dresspheres, as seen in Final Fantasy X-2. She may not use Borrowed Time, Steal Will, Zantetsu or Shin Zantetsu and does not have access to any auto abilities that grant status effects except SOS versions. She will swap loyalties 30s after the teams meet, and will continue to swap loyalties every 30s. Neither team will initially be aware of this.

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Peer into the future and see...your doom. FIGHT!
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The gist of this match is as follows.

Despite being against two Zanarkand natives, Yu's team has vastly superior terrain knowledge as while Rikku and Paine are native, they are not intimately familiar with this region. They've passed through a few times, but it's nothing comprehensive like Tira's team has from the birdz.

Kirby using his wheel power can and probably will scout around, finding the enemy team first. He will then drive away to report to his team. Now, if he's not seen, good, his team can launch a sneak attack later. If he is seen, he drives away regardless-- he can't be caught, but this causes Rikku to have memories of her dear friend Kirby... and the 30 seconds elapses-- she lashes out on her team. She's ultimately brought down, but causes a lot of damage, with her knowledge of machina anatomy proving quite fatal to Metabee as she harvests his parts with the opening attack. This is all but an autowin for Kirby's team, so for the purpose of argument, let's assume this doesn't happen for now.

Meanwhile, the enemy team, yeah, John Cena is invisible, but dude has too much hustle loyalty and respect to exploit this invisibility by sneaking around. Once he sees the enemy, it's BRRRAAABBBAADOOOOO!!! and his time is now. And this Metabee, best I can figure out is he's like an animu robot and he likes shouting special attacks. Meanwhile, Rikku as FFX turncoat is like PAINEEEYYY Let's DANCE! so I mean, that enemy team, very loud, Kirby will find them out quickly. He will report back to his buddy Yu. Yu will nod, understanding implicitly, yes, the enemy team is abound.

The battle begins. Yu's team likely having better positioning, and Yu buffed with Mind Charge, will open with Maziodyne, blasting the enemy team for heavy thunder damage and putting them on the backfoot. Kirby can follow this with a fully charged Plasma blast. Tira has great support options in Salvation, which is a full party heal + ailment cure, as well as offense with Mabufudyne for nice ice based damage. Kirby can then take point using Ninja and his Smash moveset for disruption to let his buds continue to rain magical death and healing.

Between the initial first strike putting the enemy team on the back foot, two full party heals, and limited damage options (Paine is a support build, Cena's best moves require meter, and Rikku's sphere grid doesn't have the stats for good damage with the Samurai) this fight likely lasts 30 seconds, as Metabee can only do so much. At that point, Rikku will join the ranks of Yu's team-- this sudden shift will be disasteriffic for Rikku's former team, allowing her new team to destroy them.
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TL;DR: Huge buff advantage + numbers advantage + first strike + generally superior fighters + BIG LASER HYPE (TM) = clean win.

Hi everyone! Been a while since I did this. I hope you're all ready for a long and juicy hype package. Let's get right to business!

The first person I want to talk about is Paine, because there's a lot to say about her. First off, she's packing a Garment Grid with Haste (always a valuable buff), letting her do multiple transformations into different combat specialties that grant her the memories of an accomplished practitioner of the form she's assuming. Each of her Dresspheres, as the transformations are called, grants her a fancy magical girl-style transformation, and more importantly, a host of new abilities. Let's go over each one, shall we?

-Warrior: Grants every type of elemental strike under the sun (including % HP damage, notably), delaying strikes (likely causing stunning in an FMV setting), and debuffing Stat Break attacks. This is her default sphere, the mark of her prowess as a swordswoman.
-Dark Knight: Can sacrifice health to deal massive damage with Sacrifice, but more importantly, has access to status-inflicting attacks. She can't inflict Stone or instant death, but among other things, she can cause Confusion, Poison, Doom, and unleash Black Sky, a massive meteor shower that inflicts ten hits of damage upon all enemies.
-Songstress: This is a big one. Songstress has buffs to every stat under the sun (Strength, Magic, both types of defense, evasion, accuracy...), which last until the end of the battle once applied and can be stacked up to ten times (only once in the case of the last two buffs because they're applied all in one go). When maxed out, the buffs provide an 85% bonus to each of the boosted parameters. Additionally, if she's up for it, she can perform magical dances, which continually inflict one of Blind, Mute or Slow, or grant automatic critical hits to all allies.
-Gun Mage: Can Scan and detect enemy weaknesses (always valuable against Persona users), possesses special ammunition that inflicts quadruple damage against monsters (like say, Kirby), and most of all is her game's Blue Mage job. Among other moves, she can use White Wind to heal her party, Mighty Guard to slap down Shell and Protect, debuff every enemy's DEF and MDEF simultaneously...and oh yeah, use Bad Breath, which can Silence, Blind, Poison and Slow simultaneously with one cast, vs the entire enemy party.

It's easy to see just how big a buff advantage Paine grants her team. With 80% boosted defenses, Shell and Protect AND doubled HP on top via Rikku, everyone on her team is a tank (Evolved John Cena and Metabee especially), and Team Yu has no dispellers or debuffers. Tack on Bad Breath on top for an opening salvo and she really does make the fight comically lopsided on a big terrain with time to buff such as this one.

Next up is John Cena. This isn't your garden variety superstar, though - it's a superhero version of him! And because you can't see him, he's guaranteed first strike. Consider he can do things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjN2JbfFSrw

Now, why might that matter...hang on, I think I'm remembering something...



'Oh'

Yu has no chance against an invisible superhero with his crippling weakness to suplexes. No chance in hell!
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The last new member of this team is Metabee. He's a Medabot - an artificial intelligence residing within a small medal placed within a meter-tall robot body, as capable of thinking and feeling as any human. Medabots is a Pokémon style game where a kid hero and his loyal robot companion save the world, with one crucial difference - Its story actually exists and carries over between games, forming one unbroken continuity from the first one to the last, and it actually has setting logic. Medabots are heavily armed and armored, you see, and a Robattle between two or more Medabots tends to be highly destructive to the environment, with most of them being easily capable of blowing up houses, vehicles and public infrastructure. However, the story acknowledges it - it's a pretty lighthearted series, but as everybody's best friend Mr. Referee explains after a battle knocks out the power in the central shopping district...

http://i.imgur.com/jKXKG94.png?1

Metabee's the protagonist's Medabot, and more or less the series' mascot. As a Kabuto-type Medabot, he's a ranged specialist, packing a machinegun in his left arm, a heavy penetrating rifle in his left, and homing missiles he can fire from his head. In his current model, KBT5C Saikachis, he can also perform a Medachange - transforming into a more vehicular form that sacrifices maneuverability for sheer destructive firepower. He can perform suppression artillery fire, heatseekers and, oh yeah, use a BIG FREAKIN' CANNON to blow things up to kingdom come.



(Apologies for not providing a game pic - the latest medabots games are JP only so finding solid vids is a trial.)

Last, but not least, Metabee has access to Medaforce - this is the powerful energy contained within the medal that gives him life, and which he can channel to perform massively destructive attacks. His signature move, Ultra Shot, was so powerful that its first usage didn't just utterly obliterate his opponent - it straight up boiled his own metallic body's armor to nothing with its backdraft. It's been ten years since then in-story though, and he's learned to master it, allowing him to launch its massive beam safely to KO any losers who dare challenge him. And since there's time before teams meet, he'll be able to charge it and unleash it to start things off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCZ8kOMOnCc

(opening moments, not the whole thing)

That should do a number on whoever it hits, I think. That's about all you need to know about Metabee and his universe!

And lastly, we come to Rikku. As mentioned above, her Stamina Tablet will be great for doubling up the team's durability - and what's nice is that since she only has five, it's not something that will be able to be used against the enemy team to turn the tables should the fight go long. That said, I don't think it will - with a massively buffed Rikku and Cena charging in and getting first strike, Metabee blowing everyone up with deadeye shots, lasers and missiles, and Paine laying down the debuffing law before switching off to melee to finish off the weakened, magicless members of Team Yu (who, if Rikku decides to jump right in with her innate Thief dressphere, can be berserked via Steal Soul for further humiliation), this should be a cinch.

And that's all! If you've come this far, you know all there is to know about my team. Thanks for reading!
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To answer Lopen's argument: The problem with it is that it relies on asking Kirby to be precise and measured. This, as they say, is a bad bet. Not only is Kirby not exactly an epitome of stealth, but he's up against a team that has lots of good status effects and a crack shot robot with homing missiles to deal with him. If he advances ahead of his team, all he'll do is get himself blown up - this might cause Rikku to snap if Kirby actually follows through with this plan and doesn't get distracted (it's Kirby, asking him to execute precise plans not a great idea), but against three buffed, tanky people she won't be able to do much - and at that point, it's a 3v2 and one of the 2 is Tira. That's a rout right there.
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Cena has super speed and can fly. He's basically a hard counter to wheel Kirby and can definitely take out Yu in pretty much one move
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Kirby isn't built to be stealthy he's built to be fast! Ain't no one catching that boy. And when Rikku sees him, the seeds of INSURRECTION and Rikku dissecting your robo droid has begun!
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john cena lost to kevin federline
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FFDragon posted...

john cena lost to kevin federline

One of the advantages of EVOLVING is that one sheds such simple weaknesses

Not even fifteen suplexes from THE BEAST INCARNATE could dent the Evolved Sensation of Cenation anymore
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john cena got his ass whupped by jon stewart
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Kirby trying to suck up enemy projectiles will give Cena flashbacks of the WWE universe. At that point it's all about not throwing that punch so he doesn't hit the protoplex to start the 5 moves of doom. Yu team ain't throwin much punches here so they should endure.
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I think the main question is if Cena's intense values of HUSTLE, LOYALTY, and RESPECT would impact CENATION member Rikku into hesitating and holding back when she swaps loyalties
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Lopen posted...

Kirby trying to suck up enemy projectiles will give Cena flashbacks of the WWE universe. At that point it's all about not throwing that punch so he doesn't hit the protoplex to start the 5 moves of doom. Yu team ain't throwin much punches here so they should endure.

On the other hand, a blinded, slowed kirby is not gonna do a very good job at driving

One tiny bit of blue magic, all it takes to solve that problem!

(And then of course there's the issue of, y'know, more dudes, with basically doubled stats, and anti-Persona tech to really mess things up)
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Like, the way I see it, loyal Rikku will be a great member of the CENATION

But unloyal Rikku would just be too preoccupied chanting "CENA SUCKS" to do anything else
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StealThisSheen posted...

Like, the way I see it, loyal Rikku will be a great member of the CENATION

But unloyal Rikku would just be too preoccupied chanting "CENA SUCKS" to do anything else

Rikku as the WWE public? I'm in
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Tira and Yu both got salvation for full party heal full ailment removal

Ailments ain't nothin
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Lopen posted...

Tira and Yu both got salvation for full party heal full ailment removal

Ailments ain't nothin

Can't cast while Silenced yo

If Rikku's already turned coat, Paine is free to drop the Samba of SIlence to continuously reapply it on both of them - without Personas, Yu and Tira ain't doing a thing against Cena and Metabee. If she hasn't (which is the more likely thing, because Kirby ain't gonna execute precise plans properly), then one of them is getting suplexed to death by Cena with that tasty first strike and the other one will soon follow.
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I like that Cena is untouchable but hes forcing you to feel him
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Now the problem with that is that in a real time environment, it's not easy to keep dancing. Kirby throws a dagger to the knee? The dance is no longer able to be maintained and his party is free.

There's also the fact that if either one resists silence, they can cast it to remove silence from the other one.
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Lopen posted...

Now the problem with that is that in a real time environment, it's not easy to keep dancing. Kirby throws a dagger to the knee? The dance is no longer able to be maintained and his party is free.

There's also the fact that if either one resists silence, they can cast it to remove silence from the other one.

That requires Kirby to escape Hasted Evolved Cena, Metabee's missiles and guns, and general debuffery. That's asking a lot of the poor guy!
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They're throwing daggers and he has ninja smoke teleports he'll be fine
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Lopen posted...

They're throwing daggers and he has ninja smoke teleports he'll be fine

Damien Sandow thought he could sneak up on Cena with MITB, too

And look how that went
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'can cena overcome the odds?!' - lopen
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Sandow should've went for the knee he might've succeeded.
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https://media.toofab.com/2016/10/31/1031-jon-inset-810x960.jpg

you can look but you can't touch
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Now here's a real question, will John Cena even help his team when he has the numbers advantage? That seems like heel maneuvering.

I expect him to spectate, only running in when his team is truly in need-- which will be TOO LATE.
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I checked the internet to see if it could help me with this match.

http://cenavseverything.tumblr.com/post/118471307075/john-cena-vs-yu-narukami

Seems pretty damning.
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John Cena is a noted terrible friend and will watch you get pushed off of a stage in a wheelchair while he makes out with your girlfriend
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Lopen posted...

Now here's a real question, will John Cena even help his team when he has the numbers advantage? That seems like heel maneuvering.

I expect him to spectate, only running in when his team is truly in need-- which will be TOO LATE.

It wouldn't be loyal to sit by and watch them struggle when he can help out

If they're already 1v1ing that'd be a different story, but before the fight is in full swing? Hell no. Especially if Paine decides to cheerlead as a songstress, that'd make the numbers even in any situation which means he has to find his opponent and land the five moves of doom.
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Kamekguy posted...

I checked the internet to see if it could help me with this match.

http://cenavseverything.tumblr.com/post/118471307075/john-cena-vs-yu-narukami

Seems pretty damning.

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-02-2015/l2Amot.gif
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Clarification: As this is an event for fun that won't impact the game overmuch, leaders in Lopen's pool can vote in it.

(Kamek and Skyridge can also vote in general as they're not players now, as can Luis)
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if paine cheerleeds, will she go HERE COMES THE PAINE to invisible cena?
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Screw you Kanzaris this match is very serious.
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Once Rikku flips Cena is gonna go so super.
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Team Tira

Because the argument was shorter.
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I wonder how well wheel kirby can see

I don't know if it's great for scouting beyond going real fast (which if he knows about rikku loyalty swaps is a reason all its own, I suppose)
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He specifically doesn't, as 'neither team will initially be aware of this'. So it's kind of a metagaming strat, really.
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Tira 30 seconds in after Kirby does a drive by heeeeeeey, Metabee gets one shot via Rikku steal. (which might or might not be seen) Eventually before the teams meet up, Rikku, vs Paine/Cena occurs due to the 30 second insanity clause, where Rikku gets beaten down, but that stops the invisibility clause.

From there, it's a 2v3, and it doesn't look good for the 2 remaining.

Unvote missed the insanity clause being unknown, still leaning that way though due to the confusion being rikku being the goofiest buffer on the field once engagement happens (and metabee is still dead 30 seconds in.)

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Bad Breath, which can Silence, Blind, Poison and Slow simultaneously with one cast, vs the entire enemy party.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Stone Breath and Seed Cannon (but NOT Bad Breath)

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Is John Cena secretly Johnny Slater from Hybrid Heaven?
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trdl23 posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Bad Breath, which can Silence, Blind, Poison and Slow simultaneously with one cast, vs the entire enemy party.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Stone Breath and Seed Cannon (but NOT Bad Breath)

John Cena is secretly Sting because his allies betray him and cause him to lose. Tira
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trdl23 posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Bad Breath, which can Silence, Blind, Poison and Slow simultaneously with one cast, vs the entire enemy party.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Stone Breath and Seed Cannon (but NOT Bad Breath)

She may not use Death and Break Arcana (but may use all other Arcanas freely), the Full Throttle special dressphere, Sleepy Shuffle, Brake-Dance (but NOT any other dance or song), Stone Breath and Seed Cannon (but NOT Bad Breath), and does not have access to any auto abilities that grant status effects except SOS versions.

she may not not use bad breath, meaning she can use bad breath
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JeezyMiyagi posted...

trdl23 posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Bad Breath, which can Silence, Blind, Poison and Slow simultaneously with one cast, vs the entire enemy party.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Stone Breath and Seed Cannon (but NOT Bad Breath)

She may not use Death and Break Arcana (but may use all other Arcanas freely), the Full Throttle special dressphere, Sleepy Shuffle, Brake-Dance (but NOT any other dance or song), Stone Breath and Seed Cannon (but NOT Bad Breath), and does not have access to any auto abilities that grant status effects except SOS versions.

she may not not use bad breath, meaning she can use bad breath

Look, Kanz, I know double negatives are normal in Spanish, but come on.
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The main thing I'm sure about is that 30 seconds into the fight, Rikku switches sides and ganks the obvious machina Metabee. Which should be successful, since he doesn't know she's turning traitor.

How's Metabee's durability?
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trdl23 posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Bad Breath, which can Silence, Blind, Poison and Slow simultaneously with one cast, vs the entire enemy party.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Stone Breath and Seed Cannon (but NOT Bad Breath)

That's a list of bans, you goober. As in, Bad Breath isn't banned.
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

trdl23 posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Bad Breath, which can Silence, Blind, Poison and Slow simultaneously with one cast, vs the entire enemy party.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Stone Breath and Seed Cannon (but NOT Bad Breath)

That's a list of bans, you goober. As in, Bad Breath isn't banned.

trdl23 posted...

Look, Kanz, I know double negatives are normal in Spanish, but come on.

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Gatarix posted...

The main thing I'm sure about is that 30 seconds into the fight, Rikku switches sides and ganks the obvious machina Metabee. Which should be successful, since he doesn't know she's turning traitor.

How's Metabee's durability?

Pretty tanky. Medabots fight each other using lasers, bullets, missiles, etc. and generally neither side can oneshot each other. The way the combat works in those games, you generally have to do damage part by part (there's four parts - left arm, right arm, torso/head, and legs) and chew through most of a medabot to disable it. Blowing up the head causes function to cease, but the rest doesn't slow them down much.

Also, with regards to the 'Rikku ganks metabee' angle, the problem is that she's literally not going to be in range for it. Look at her items and dresspheres - Thief and Samurai are both melee for exactly this reason. Her setup encourages to go into the fray. The idea that she's going to drop everything when she switches sides, run to Metabee, and try to use Steal on him is silly because there's more obvious targets in reach.
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trdl23 posted...

Look, Kanz, I know double negatives are normal in Spanish, but come on.

You do realize I need to specify this due to the dumb fact of the status effects clause normally banning everything that isn't Poison effects? If I don't say 'no, bad Breath is SPECIFICALLY not banned', voter are encouraged to assume it is due to that.
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