Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 108: Trump 3:16 says I just trolled your ass

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ExThaNemesis posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Holy fucking shit?

You wanna rethink this post?

Not particularly. What do you think someone deserves to have happen to them for shouting the N-word three times? To be beaten? How badly should they be beaten? Hospitalized? Permanently disabled?

What's the violence threshold you're putting on that one.

It's not about what he deserves, it's about what the should expect to happen.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Corrik has officially lost it and should probably also go to bed.

I think you should, bud, because you are such a liberal lapdog that a good portion of the left here has admitted it doesn't look great, you yourself have said it is unclear, yet you are defending it like it is the last mozarella stick.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

This is not a thing. This is actual fake news.

Unless you think every single time a news network publishes someone's name in an article is "doxxing".

The entire crux of this outrage isn't real, that's what it's "not worth discussing".

Duh.

There's a pretty clear difference between publishing someone's name in an article and flat out saying "we're gonna link you to EVERYTHING you've said online"

Yep, there is. And CNN's statement regards the former, glad we agree. Not sure where anybody's claiming the latter from.
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LapisLazuli posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Holy fucking shit?

You wanna rethink this post?

Not particularly. What do you think someone deserves to have happen to them for shouting the N-word three times? To be beaten? How badly should they be beaten? Hospitalized? Permanently disabled?

What's the violence threshold you're putting on that one.

It's not about what he deserves, it's about what the should expect to happen.

I will never understand how ppl like this do not believe in the death penalty.
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LapisLazuli posted...

It's not about what he deserves, it's about what the should expect to happen.

Again, this is textbook victim blaming. Don't get mad at me because I know how to use your argument against you.
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Where in the actual fuck is your connection there?

PLEASE don't answer.
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How do you judge what someone deserves or you expect to happen????
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If you can't figure out how that's victim blaming then I guess you're not smart enough to be part of the conversation anymore.
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You're making my head hurt, and not in the way you want it to.

I don't even know why I'm arguing with you of all people. There's nothing to be gained from it.
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Go to bed LtM, you're way too tired for this and your brain isn't making simple connections. Come back after you've gotten some sleep and maybe you'll do a little better.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

If you can't figure out how that's victim blaming then I guess you're not smart enough to be part of the conversation anymore.

Sure why not. Congrats on your win!
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LapisLazuli posted...

You're making my head hurt, and not in the way you want it to.

I don't even know why I'm arguing with you of all people. There's nothing to be gained from it.

You do not know how to argue anyways. You contradicted yourself already as is.

You just are a lapdog and the topic is indefensible so you are yipping around like a hyena who has no food. It is sad.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

If you can't figure out how that's victim blaming then I guess you're not smart enough to be part of the conversation anymore.

it's not victim blaming because if you're shouting racial slurs you're an aggressor, not a victim

(LtM's post was dumb but this is even dumber; both of y'all should stop)
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You're right Corrik. I concede. You have won the argument, congratulations.
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Like LtM trust me Corrik and I find this almost as ridiculous as you do.

Like in the year of our lord 2017, a professional wrestling meme has created now a potential blackmail story.

I don't know why you're trying to make it even more ridiculous than it is because you can't.
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LapisLazuli posted...

You're right Corrik. I concede. You have won the argument, congratulations.

Thank you. Now we can discuss Seattle's failed min wage hike.
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No Kenri, let them have it. Let it end.
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Kenri posted...

it's not victim blaming because if you're shouting racial slurs you're an aggressor, not a victim

So I ask you what I asked him, what's your threshold for the violence that should befall the "aggressor"?

Should he just be punched a-la Richard Spencer? Should he be hospitalized? Disabled? Killed? What do you think?

While you're at it, what level of violence are you okay with happening to Richard Spencer whenever he shows his mug in public?
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Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Holy fucking shit?

You wanna rethink this post?

Not particularly. What do you think someone deserves to have happen to them for shouting the N-word three times? To be beaten? How badly should they be beaten? Hospitalized? Permanently disabled?

What's the violence threshold you're putting on that one.

It's not about what he deserves, it's about what the should expect to happen.

I will never understand how ppl like this do not believe in the death penalty.

I feel like we shouldn't death penalty people, but at the same time don't get super bothered by people being death penaltied because they were really shitty.

similarly, in this hypothetical, I think assaulting the n word man is a disproportional response and I would not encourage it, but I also wouldn't feel any sympathy for him if he was to be assaulted.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

but I also wouldn't feel any sympathy for him if he was to be assaulted.

Neither would any of us, but assault is a crime. Shouting the n-word three times is... well, maybe it's disturbing the peace I guess? Depends on how loud you are.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

So I ask you what I asked him, what's your threshold for the violence that should befall the "aggressor"?

Should he just be punched a-la Richard Spencer? Should he be hospitalized? Disabled? Killed? What do you think?

While you're at it, what level of violence are you okay with happening to Richard Spencer whenever he shows his mug in public?

i will settle for murder at minimum in all accounts
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Holy fucking shit?

You wanna rethink this post?

Not particularly. What do you think someone deserves to have happen to them for shouting the N-word three times? To be beaten? How badly should they be beaten? Hospitalized? Permanently disabled?

What's the violence threshold you're putting on that one.

It's not about what he deserves, it's about what the should expect to happen.

I will never understand how ppl like this do not believe in the death penalty.

I feel like we shouldn't death penalty people, but at the same time don't get super bothered by people being death penaltied because they were really shitty.

similarly, in this hypothetical, I think assaulting the n word man is a disproportional response and I would not encourage it, but I also wouldn't feel any sympathy for him if he was to be assaulted.

What if he was just singing a song with that word in it? He was just trying to enjoy himself to music and meant no offense. Would you feel sympathy then?
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Like LtM trust me Corrik and I find this almost as ridiculous as you do.

Like in the year of our lord 2017, a professional wrestling meme has created now a potential blackmail story.

I don't know why you're trying to make it even more ridiculous than it is because you can't.

I dunno why you're doing the "current year" thing

what other year would it have been more reasonable in? This is only our second president who knows what a meme is.
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I just do the year of our lord thing because it sounds funny to me.

Kenri posted...

i will settle for murder at minimum in all accounts

the sad thing is I'm not even 100% that you're joking
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Corrik posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Holy fucking shit?

You wanna rethink this post?

Not particularly. What do you think someone deserves to have happen to them for shouting the N-word three times? To be beaten? How badly should they be beaten? Hospitalized? Permanently disabled?

What's the violence threshold you're putting on that one.

It's not about what he deserves, it's about what the should expect to happen.

I will never understand how ppl like this do not believe in the death penalty.

I feel like we shouldn't death penalty people, but at the same time don't get super bothered by people being death penaltied because they were really shitty.

similarly, in this hypothetical, I think assaulting the n word man is a disproportional response and I would not encourage it, but I also wouldn't feel any sympathy for him if he was to be assaulted.

What if he was just singing a song with that word in it? He was just trying to enjoy himself to music and meant no offense. Would you feel sympathy then?

yes, I would feel differently in that different situation. I would feel differently in a lot of different situations because they are different.
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I just do the year of our lord thing because it sounds funny to me.

ok you are excused
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All CNN had to do after the wrestling meme tweet was scoff and say "you are a child" or failing that, literally just don't even respond at all and allow Trump to look like a child.

Instead they have done this.

Whoever is in charge over there should be fired. Into the sun.
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LapisLazuli posted...

Did I actually just respond to someone who used "watch some South Park, bruh" as a defense for his argument in actual 2017?

current year "arguments" are done man.
it's all about the modern day.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Kenri posted...

i will settle for murder at minimum in all accounts

the sad thing is I'm not even 100% that you're joking

i am an enigma
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lmao Adam Baldwin calls this GamerGate writ-large.

This is gonna be incredible for the next few days.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Corrik posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

Corrik posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

ExThaNemesis posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Holy fucking shit?

You wanna rethink this post?

Not particularly. What do you think someone deserves to have happen to them for shouting the N-word three times? To be beaten? How badly should they be beaten? Hospitalized? Permanently disabled?

What's the violence threshold you're putting on that one.

It's not about what he deserves, it's about what the should expect to happen.

I will never understand how ppl like this do not believe in the death penalty.

I feel like we shouldn't death penalty people, but at the same time don't get super bothered by people being death penaltied because they were really shitty.

similarly, in this hypothetical, I think assaulting the n word man is a disproportional response and I would not encourage it, but I also wouldn't feel any sympathy for him if he was to be assaulted.

What if he was just singing a song with that word in it? He was just trying to enjoy himself to music and meant no offense. Would you feel sympathy then?

yes, I would feel differently in that different situation. I would feel differently in a lot of different situations because they are different.

So do you feel bad for this person CNN investigated?
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So do you feel bad for this person CNN investigated?

no. Nothing has actually happened to him and he seems to be an anti-Semite, so I also wouldn't feel bad if CNN did release his info.

The reason I would feel bad for the guy in the singing example is that he, as described, doesn't seem like an actual racist. I'm picturing him singing along to Drop it Like it's Hot or something. If he was actually singing some weird racist song because he's a racist then I wouldn't feel bad for him either.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

So do you feel bad for this person CNN investigated?

no. Nothing has actually happened to him and he seems to be an anti-Semite, so I also wouldn't feel bad if CNN did release his info.

The reason I would feel bad for the guy in the singing example is that he, as described, doesn't seem like an actual racist. I'm picturing him singing along to Drop it Like it's Hot or something. If he was actually singing some weird racist song because he's a racist then I wouldn't feel bad for him either.

So in the same scenario if they guy had a nazi poster and you found out afterwards then you lose sympathy? I don'y understand that. I am under the thinking that there is a clear right or wrong. And whether the person wronged was a 17 year old female valedictorian or a 48 year old shitty father black supremacist who hates whites that what was done to them is either wrong or it was wrong. The type of person they are does not change that.
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if hypothetically all I knew about him was that he made that gif trump tweeted then I would bad for him if CNN released his info against his wishes
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Do you feel bad if someone ods on heroin and dies? Do you feel bad if someone is sold laced product and ods and dies?
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Corrik you are banned from analogies
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Corrik you are banned from analogies

Gotta get to 500
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So in the same scenario if they guy had a nazi poster and you found out afterwards then you lose sympathy? I don'y understand that. I am under the thinking that there is a clear right or wrong. And whether the person wronged was a 17 year old female valedictorian or a 48 year old s***ty father black supremacist who hates whites that what was done to them is either wrong or it was wrong. The type of person they are does not change that.

yeah, I don't have sympathy for nazis. That doesn't mean I think the assault against the Nazi person was justified or morally right, I just don't really care about it because he's a Nazi.
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Ughhhh I just found out Mike Cernovich calls .gifs "jiffs"

can I go back and change my vote
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Corrik posted...

Do you feel bad if someone ods on heroin and dies? Do you feel bad if someone is sold laced product and ods and dies?

sure, both. It's sad to me that someone's life is that shitty that they turned to heroin.

edit: but if it's a Nazi heroin user then I don't feel bad
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Corrik posted...

Do you feel bad if someone ods on heroin and dies? Do you feel bad if someone is sold laced product and ods and dies?

sure, both. It's sad to me that someone's life is that shitty that they turned to heroin.

I do not feel.sympathy at all for someone who ods on heroin that is as intended. I know a ton of sad stories regarding it and I know a ton of shitty people in regards. I view them all the same.

On the other hand, I feel sympathy that they were duped when they od due to laced product. And, I feel the seller is a murderer.
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Corrik posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

Corrik posted...

Do you feel bad if someone ods on heroin and dies? Do you feel bad if someone is sold laced product and ods and dies?

sure, both. It's sad to me that someone's life is that shitty that they turned to heroin.

I do not feel.sympathy at all for someone who ods on heroin that is as intended. I know a ton of sad stories regarding it and I know a ton of shitty people in regards. I view them all the same.

On the other hand, I feel sympathy that they were duped when they od due to laced product. And, I feel the seller is a murderer.

Basically I have some kind of subconscious sympathy formula that weighs the morality of the person vs. whatever happened to them. I don't think heroin users are necessarily bad people, so I think it is tragic that they were unable to get help before they died.

also if the dumb gif teen we were talking about to start all of this were to be actually publically doxxed by CNN and then someone used that info and murdered him, I would feel bad because that's so bad compared to posting some dumb "Jews control the media" memes or whatever.

there are complex sympathy calculations going on here
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Corrik posted...

MoogleKupo141 posted...

Corrik posted...

Do you feel bad if someone ods on heroin and dies? Do you feel bad if someone is sold laced product and ods and dies?

sure, both. It's sad to me that someone's life is that shitty that they turned to heroin.

I do not feel.sympathy at all for someone who ods on heroin that is as intended. I know a ton of sad stories regarding it and I know a ton of shitty people in regards. I view them all the same.

On the other hand, I feel sympathy that they were duped when they od due to laced product. And, I feel the seller is a murderer.

Basically I have some kind of subconscious sympathy formula that weighs the morality of the person vs. whatever happened to them. I don't think heroin users are necessarily bad people, so I think it is tragic that they were unable to get help before they died.

also if the dumb gif teen we were talking about to start all of this were to be actually publically doxxed by CNN and then someone used that info and murdered him, I would feel bad because that's so bad compared to posting some dumb "Jews control the media" memes or whatever.

there are complex sympathy calculations going on here

Doesn't that let you justify bad things?
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Extha, why are you referring to this guy as a "victim"

What is he supposedly the victim of
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I don't use it to justify anything, that's separate, this is just about the emotional response I have to stuff. I think CNN is not justified in releasing this (maybe) kid's information, but I'm not going to feel bothered if they do.
It's like... two wrongs don't make a right, but also they don't make a wrong. They make an "I don't care". Not my best work, but I'm sleepy.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

there are complex sympathy calculations going on here

Wow you should try my system instead, it's called "I feel good when I hurt people I don't like" and it works perfectly with no messy math
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