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MoogleKupo141
07/05/17 1:52:28 AM
#354:


Corrik posted...
XIII_rocks posted...
Definitely think CNN could have worded it better. It doesn't sound exactly benign.

Finally. At least someone with the balls to admit it comes off bad.


I agree too. The article doesn't look good at all.
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Corrik
07/05/17 1:53:37 AM
#355:


StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
Finally. At least someone with the balls to admit it comes off bad.


I've been saying it's worded poorly this entire time.

But it's BECAUSE it's worded poorly that we can't draw a fair conclusion either way.

Half of you are defending it as CLEAR STANDARD PRACTICE while now backtracking that it is WORDED POORLY SO YOU CAN'T DRAW A CONCLUSION.

You are all over the place. You can't defend it while saying ur unclear what they meant.
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LordoftheMorons
07/05/17 1:54:31 AM
#356:


If all you're arguing is that it's worded badly then sure, I'll concede that

I don't see any reason to choose the threat interpretation, though.
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 1:55:08 AM
#357:


Corrik posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
You agreed with someone else who claimed it was blackmail, which is the same thing.

Corrik posted...
Lol at least most of twitter seems to be able to put it together.

"CNN can threaten to dox private citizens' information, but won't reveal their anonymous sources in news tips. #CNNBlackMail"

Congrats. That is a liberals twitter post. I was showing an example of my previously stated both sides on twitter are going off on CNN. Read context and stop trying to put words where they weren't to make an argument sound better.


...What does him being liberal have to do with you agreeing him? "He gets it" means you think he's got it right, that's a statement of agreement.

What the actual fuck, do you think if you agree with a liberal on something it.....doesn't count?
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StealThisSheen
07/05/17 1:55:18 AM
#358:


Corrik posted...

You are all over the place. You can't defend it while saying ur unclear what they meant.


It's unclear what they meant = Saying it's unclear what they meant

Because it's unclear what they meant, it's not fair to instantly accuse them of blackmailing = defending them

You can certainly do both.

I'm not defending them if they're actually threatening the guy, and I doubt anybody here is.

I am, however, saying it's unfair to criticize something that we don't even know is happening.
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Wanglicious
07/05/17 1:56:14 AM
#360:


StealThisSheen posted...

Those are the reasons they stated for not sharing his info.

You're connecting the "We reserve the right" part directly to that, but there is no language actually specifically doing so.


...dude.
the two are literally back to back. nobody is editing anything. here's a picture of the paragraph above and below that entire section.

bYwz8Kz

CNN literally states why they are not publishing his name, lists those four terms, then says that should any of that change, meaning, should any of the terms they explicitly listed above change, they could release it. this is pretty direct language, i don't think there's a loophole out of this one. listing a set of terms and conditions followed by "should any of that change" is a pretty cut and dry case.

lordloki12 posted...

So if he becomes newsworthy in the future they might actually refer to him by name? This is my shocked face.


real talk, are you trolling or are you just not reading posts you respond to? because i'd really like to know how a change to any of that could remotely be newsworthy.
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lordloki12
07/05/17 1:56:42 AM
#361:


Corrik posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Corrik posted...
Finally. At least someone with the balls to admit it comes off bad.


I've been saying it's worded poorly this entire time.

But it's BECAUSE it's worded poorly that we can't draw a fair conclusion either way.

Half of you are defending it as CLEAR STANDARD PRACTICE while now backtracking that it is WORDED POORLY SO YOU CAN'T DRAW A CONCLUSION.

You are all over the place. You can't defend it while saying ur unclear what they meant.


The people talking about standard practice and the people saying the article is poorly worded are referring to 2 different things.
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 1:57:13 AM
#362:


I'm sure you blocked the problem users just like the last time you said you did and the proceeded to get pissed off and yell at them directly for all the things they'd said about you.
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StealThisSheen
07/05/17 1:59:41 AM
#363:


I agree the "Should any of that change" is very poor wording, but it seems like they're referring to the "ugly behavior" thing with that, which would fall into the "if he does anything newsworthy again" thing. The other stuff can't really... Change.
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lordloki12
07/05/17 2:00:29 AM
#364:


Wanglicious posted...
StealThisSheen posted...

Those are the reasons they stated for not sharing his info.

You're connecting the "We reserve the right" part directly to that, but there is no language actually specifically doing so.


...dude.
the two are literally back to back. nobody is editing anything. here's a picture of the paragraph above and below that entire section.

bYwz8Kz

CNN literally states why they are not publishing his name, lists those four terms, then says that should any of that change, meaning, should any of the terms they explicitly listed above change, they could release it. this is pretty direct language, i don't think there's a loophole out of this one. listing a set of terms and conditions followed by "should any of that change" is a pretty cut and dry case.

lordloki12 posted...

So if he becomes newsworthy in the future they might actually refer to him by name? This is my shocked face.


real talk, are you trolling or are you just not reading posts you respond to? because i'd really like to know how a change to any of that could remotely be newsworthy.


If he decided to make more gifs and the president continued to use them to attack the people he hates it would indeed be newsworthy.
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MoogleKupo141
07/05/17 2:03:59 AM
#366:


shocking update about the GIF creator, it's worse than we thought

q9HTCOF
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 2:04:05 AM
#367:


This whole argument from these people is so hard to swallow because this is one of those stories where, if the political affiliations of those.involved were flipped, every single one of the usual suspects would be demanding they report on the guy.
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Corrik
07/05/17 2:04:05 AM
#368:


LapisLazuli posted...
Corrik posted...
LapisLazuli posted...
You agreed with someone else who claimed it was blackmail, which is the same thing.

Corrik posted...
Lol at least most of twitter seems to be able to put it together.

"CNN can threaten to dox private citizens' information, but won't reveal their anonymous sources in news tips. #CNNBlackMail"

Congrats. That is a liberals twitter post. I was showing an example of my previously stated both sides on twitter are going off on CNN. Read context and stop trying to put words where they weren't to make an argument sound better.


...What does him being liberal have to do with you agreeing him? "He gets it" means you think he's got it right, that's a statement of agreement.

What the actual fuck, do you think if you agree with a liberal on something it.....doesn't count?

I literally have zero idea what the fuck you are even talking about. Your response in no way responds to what I said.
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 2:04:46 AM
#369:


Hey, just like every single post you've made in this topic!
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Corrik
07/05/17 2:05:07 AM
#370:


LapisLazuli posted...
This whole argument from these people is so hard to swallow because this is one of those stories where, if the political affiliations of those.involved were flipped, every single one of the usual suspects would be demanding they report on the guy.


I am.prettty sure most ppl do not give a shit about some stupid wrestling video. Its the most created news garbage I have ever seen.
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Corrik
07/05/17 2:05:31 AM
#371:


LapisLazuli posted...
Hey, just like every single post you've made in this topic!

Okee dokee Lasa Jr.
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 2:05:46 AM
#372:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
shocking update about the GIF creator, it's worse than we thought

q9HTCOF


This whole story just got flipped upside down!
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LordoftheMorons
07/05/17 2:07:33 AM
#373:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
shocking update about the GIF creator, it's worse than we thought

q9HTCOF

All of CNN is going to jail
Even the guy that fetches coffee
Especially him
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lordloki12
07/05/17 2:08:22 AM
#374:


LordoftheMorons posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
shocking update about the GIF creator, it's worse than we thought

q9HTCOF

All of CNN is going to jail
Even the guy that fetches coffee


But he was in line at Starbucks when this all went down.
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XIII_rocks
07/05/17 2:11:00 AM
#375:


Also let's be honest

I'm not saying CNN are incapable of such stupidity but wouldn't it be seriously stupid of them to post that if their intent was literally to blackmail him?
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Corrik
07/05/17 2:12:28 AM
#376:


XIII_rocks posted...
Also let's be honest

I'm not saying CNN are incapable of such stupidity but wouldn't it be seriously stupid of them to post that if their intent was literally to blackmail him?

They didn't have to blackmail him.
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Corrik
07/05/17 2:13:16 AM
#378:


Truly sad South Park basically alrdy did this storyline cuz I honestly feel CNN and Trump are just trying to set up storylines at this point.
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Skyridge87
07/05/17 2:14:36 AM
#379:


This entire situation is stupid as hell and I wish everyone would stop talking about it.
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TheRock1525
07/05/17 2:15:09 AM
#380:


Skyridge87 posted...
This entire situation is stupid as hell and I wish everyone would stop talking about it.


What political topic would you like to discuss right now, Mr. Ridge?
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 2:15:48 AM
#381:


This "story" is over and you guys should stop making yourselves look bad by continuing to push it.
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Skyridge87
07/05/17 2:15:54 AM
#382:


Literally anything else.
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 2:17:18 AM
#383:


This shit is so sad that we'd be better off not having a politics topic than continuing to humor it.
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Wanglicious
07/05/17 2:17:38 AM
#384:


StealThisSheen posted...
I agree the "Should any of that change" is very poor wording, but it seems like they're referring to the "ugly behavior" thing with that, which would fall into the "if he does anything newsworthy again" thing. The other stuff can't really... Change.


well it can.
he can go back and say he's not sorry or that remorseful, just scared. that'd violate one or two conditions - they now can release his info by their own terms.

i mean the "ugly behavior" is such a vague thing since the only thing he did that was newsworthy was... be the creator of a gif the president used. is that the ugly behavior? because that's all he's relevant for here.

and how is violating any of this supposed to make his personal info something that should be known to the public? why are these the terms and conditions for the release of his personal info, what possible thing does it do?


lordloki12 posted...

If he decided to make more gifs and the president continued to use them to attack the people he hates it would indeed be newsworthy.


the only thing newsworthy is trump using more gifs, not the guy who made them. nobody cared about the guy who made it until CNN did this.
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lordloki12
07/05/17 2:21:16 AM
#385:


Skyridge87 posted...
Literally anything else.



Well if you want to keep it light we can talk about this video of Donald not being able to find the limo they parked directly in front of him while exiting air force one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5TGQgQJeA&feature=youtu.be
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Mega Mana
07/05/17 2:21:20 AM
#386:


Wanglicious posted...
StealThisSheen posted...

Those are the reasons they stated for not sharing his info.

You're connecting the "We reserve the right" part directly to that, but there is no language actually specifically doing so.


...dude.
the two are literally back to back. nobody is editing anything. here's a picture of the paragraph above and below that entire section.

bYwz8Kz

CNN literally states why they are not publishing his name, lists those four terms, then says that should any of that change, meaning, should any of the terms they explicitly listed above change, they could release it. this is pretty direct language, i don't think there's a loophole out of this one. listing a set of terms and conditions followed by "should any of that change" is a pretty cut and dry case.

lordloki12 posted...

So if he becomes newsworthy in the future they might actually refer to him by name? This is my shocked face.


real talk, are you trolling or are you just not reading posts you respond to? because i'd really like to know how a change to any of that could remotely be newsworthy.



Oh god, the horror... the horror... Wang, please, please... do not let this become HK-47 all over again, please, I beg of you.
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 2:25:10 AM
#387:


lordloki12 posted...
Skyridge87 posted...
Literally anything else.



Well if you want to keep it light we can talk about this video of Donald not being able to find the limo they parked directly in front of him while exiting air force one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5TGQgQJeA&feature=youtu.be


How many actions implying he's going blind does that bring it up to?

EDIT: OK that's not bad eyesight, that's senility.
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lordloki12
07/05/17 2:25:17 AM
#388:


Wanglicious posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
I agree the "Should any of that change" is very poor wording, but it seems like they're referring to the "ugly behavior" thing with that, which would fall into the "if he does anything newsworthy again" thing. The other stuff can't really... Change.


well it can.
he can go back and say he's not sorry or that remorseful, just scared. that'd violate one or two conditions - they now can release his info by their own terms.

i mean the "ugly behavior" is such a vague thing since the only thing he did that was newsworthy was... be the creator of a gif the president used. is that the ugly behavior? because that's all he's relevant for here.

and how is violating any of this supposed to make his personal info something that should be known to the public? why are these the terms and conditions for the release of his personal info, what possible thing does it do?


lordloki12 posted...

If he decided to make more gifs and the president continued to use them to attack the people he hates it would indeed be newsworthy.


the only thing newsworthy is trump using more gifs, not the guy who made them. nobody cared about the guy who made it until CNN did this.


Trump using the gifs makes them newsworthy. That includes the person who made them and it would be especially newsworthy if they continued to come from the same source.
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MoogleKupo141
07/05/17 2:27:42 AM
#389:


i mean the "ugly behavior" is such a vague thing since the only thing he did that was newsworthy was... be the creator of a gif the president used. is that the ugly behavior? because that's all he's relevant for here.


I think the ugly behavior is the anti-Semitic stuff probably
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Corrik
07/05/17 2:51:20 AM
#390:


Let me make a bad example to illustrate the point.

A guy walks into a store. He pulls out a gun and taps it in on the counter. The store owner freaks out and hands him all the money in the register. The guy with a gun says nothing.

After the store owner hands all the money over. The guy with the gun simply says. I didn't do anything cuz you seemed to be pretty understanding. I reserve the right to do something next time.


That is how I look at it. You pointed a bomb at the dude. He scared shitless tried to comply so you couldn't drop said bomb. Then you said well as long as your actions don't change we won't drop that bomb.

Did they blackmail him? I mean no. But, the last part is an implied to basically outright threat.
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 2:56:33 AM
#391:


Fucking hell, dude.
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LordoftheMorons
07/05/17 2:59:25 AM
#392:


Your analogy breaks down because the asking a guy for comment (again, standard practice) is in no way analogous to brandishing a gun.
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MoogleKupo141
07/05/17 3:02:35 AM
#393:


Let me make a bad example to illustrate the point.


you're stealing my act
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Kenri
07/05/17 3:04:57 AM
#394:


Corrik posted...
Let me make a bad example to illustrate the point.

man, if there's one thing bad examples are good for, it's illustrating your point!
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Corrik
07/05/17 3:06:51 AM
#395:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Your analogy breaks down because the asking a guy for comment (again, standard practice) is in no way analogous to brandishing a gun.

Calling him on his telephone and stating they have his name is the gun or bomb in this situation.

What if it is an older guy with 4 kids whose boss is a liberal and it may affect his childrens livelihoods if his information came out?

What if it is a 15 year old kid who freaked out his parents may find out?

You have no idea what that kind of information couod mean to the person in question.

They did not send a message on reddit asking for information. They made it clear they had his private information.
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MoogleKupo141
07/05/17 3:12:56 AM
#396:


I think it's more like CNN has a gun, and they called this guy, and said "hey we have a gun. If you do a thing that morally justifies us shooting you, we're going to shoot you with it". The robbery angle makes them seem too sinister.
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Corrik
07/05/17 3:14:24 AM
#397:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
I think it's more like CNN has a gun, and they called this guy, and said "hey we have a gun. If you do a thing that morally justifies us shooting you, we're going to shoot you with it". The robbery angle makes them seem too sinister.

The dude didn't rob him. The dude just got scared and handed his money over.

CNN didn't blackmail him. He just got scared and deleted everything and apologized.
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LapisLazuli
07/05/17 3:14:31 AM
#398:



Calling him on his telephone and stating they have his name is the gun or bomb in this situation.


No it isn't. And why would they state that, seems it would be assumed.


What if it is an older guy with 4 kids whose boss is a liberal and it may affect his childrens livelihoods if his information came out?


Shouldn't be a Jew hating scumbag. Why have you suddenly taken this pro entitlement stance? People don't deserve health care but damn do they deserve their dignity?


What if it is a 15 year old kid who freaked out his parents may find out?


I'm gonna take "shouldn't have been an antisemetic shit" again, bob. He should take responsibility for his awful behavior.

They did not send a message on reddit asking for information. They made it clear they had his private information.

Don't even know where you're trying to go with this one.
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Corrik
07/05/17 3:15:55 AM
#399:


LapisLazuli posted...

Calling him on his telephone and stating they have his name is the gun or bomb in this situation.


No it isn't. And why would they state that, seems it would be assumed.


What if it is an older guy with 4 kids whose boss is a liberal and it may affect his childrens livelihoods if his information came out?


Shouldn't be a Jew hating scumbag. Why have you suddenly taken this pro entitlement stance? People don't deserve health care but damn do they deserve their dignity?


What if it is a 15 year old kid who freaked out his parents may find out?


I'm gonna take "shouldn't have been an antisemetic shit" again, bob. He should take responsibility for his awful behavior.

They did not send a message on reddit asking for information. They made it clear they had his private information.

Don't even know where you're trying to go with this one.

So your argument is... in this scenario... he deserved the gun or bomb pointed at him? Lol.
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ExThaNemesis
07/05/17 3:17:07 AM
#400:


CNN just threatened to doxx a 15 year old kid over having their feelings hurt by a wrestling meme

My Trump vote has never felt so justified.
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MoogleKupo141
07/05/17 3:18:46 AM
#401:


ExThaNemesis posted...
CNN just threatened to doxx a 15 year old kid over having their feelings hurt by a wrestling meme

My Trump vote has never felt so justified.


if Trump hadn't won this never would have happened! Your vote contributed to this poor, definitely 15 year-old patriot being threatened! How can you feel justified, you monster?
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ExThaNemesis
07/05/17 3:20:46 AM
#402:


I said from the beginning all I wanted was entertainment in the form of upset liberals.

I have now gotten so much more than just upset liberals.

This is literally a television company threatening to doxx a child because of a wrestling meme.

How does this even happen.
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Kenri
07/05/17 3:20:47 AM
#403:


Me, a person who has never read a newspaper before in my life: how dare they give out the name of a PRIVATE CITIZEN
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