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FightingGames
07/09/17 2:22:56 PM
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https://twitter.com/derrekr6/status/884106715888848899

derrek @derrekr6

we got the kernel.
@qlutoo @ylws8
#NintendoSwitch #Haxx

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Duncanwii
07/09/17 2:23:58 PM
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Am I supposed to understand what any of that gibberish means?
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DoctorPiranha3
07/09/17 2:24:44 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Am I supposed to understand what any of that gibberish means?
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luigi13579
07/09/17 2:24:51 PM
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lolDRM.
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ChromaticAngel
07/09/17 2:25:10 PM
#5:


Going out to buy another switch RN.

Not even joking.
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King Rial
07/09/17 2:25:13 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Am I supposed to understand what any of that gibberish means?

They've hacked the Nintendo Switch.
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DoctorPiranha3
07/09/17 2:25:40 PM
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King Rial posted...
Duncanwii posted...
Am I supposed to understand what any of that gibberish means?

They've hacked the Nintendo Switch.

O...kay? Who gives a shit?
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KnightofShikari
07/09/17 2:25:50 PM
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King Rial
07/09/17 2:26:19 PM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
I...kay? Who gives a shit?

Literally millions of people do. Myself included.
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DoomSwell
07/09/17 2:26:45 PM
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@DoctorPiranha3 posted...
I...kay? Who gives a shit?

Pirates that play roms care a lot.
Especially since the Switch doesn't have Virtual Console yet...
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DoctorPiranha3
07/09/17 2:27:31 PM
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King Rial posted...
DoctorPiranha3 posted...
I...kay? Who gives a shit?

Literally millions of people do. Myself included.

Millions... Hahahaha!!! Maybe like 1% of the install base.
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Doom_Art
07/09/17 2:27:35 PM
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explain in clear terms to me why this is a big deal?
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DevsBro
07/09/17 2:27:48 PM
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What does this mean for players?
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chrono625
07/09/17 2:28:44 PM
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DevsBro posted...
What does this mean for players?


rooted switches

with emulators

portable walking retro system
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Dustin1280
07/09/17 2:28:46 PM
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If a console is hacked then it allows you to play ALL the games for free through less then legal means.

On top of homebrew apps that can take advantage of the switch's uniqueness.

This means emulators can start being produced for the Switch which will eventually lead to the ultimate Retro System
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Duncanwii
07/09/17 2:30:01 PM
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What Nintendo needs to do is do what they did with Earthbound and make the game incomprehensibly hard if you pirate. Although some may take that as a challenge.
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DevsBro
07/09/17 2:31:05 PM
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rooted switches

with emulators

portable walking retro system

So Nintendo's sales of SNES games are keeping them afloat?
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King Rial
07/09/17 2:31:53 PM
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DoctorPiranha3 posted...
Millions... Hahahaha!!! Maybe like 1% of the install base.

You don't really know what you're talking about. The are people out there that ain't even but the console until it is hacked. I'm not taking about just people that already have it. Or just people in the Western world. I'm taking about the entire planet.
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chrono625
07/09/17 2:32:03 PM
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DevsBro posted...
rooted switches

with emulators

portable walking retro system

So Nintendo's sales of SNES games are keeping them afloat?


no.

but that's a big interest for a lot of people.
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DevsBro
07/09/17 2:32:47 PM
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So Nintendo is not finished then?
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luigi13579
07/09/17 2:34:51 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
What Nintendo needs to do is do what they did with Earthbound and make the game incomprehensibly hard if you pirate. Although some may take that as a challenge.

The funniest anti-piracy measure was https://www.wired.com/2010/12/michael-jackson-vuvuzela/

A novel anti-piracy measure baked into the Nintendo DS version of Michael Jackson: The Experience makes copied versions of the game unplayable and taunts gamers with the blaring sound of vuvuzelas.

Instead of “Beat It,” players get “Bleat It.”
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King Rial
07/09/17 2:35:00 PM
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DevsBro posted...
So Nintendo is not finished then?

Not even close. The topic title is a bit of a joke, I'm guessing. This won't really make too much of a difference for Nintendo. Though they will work on patching whatever exploit they can find with both updates for current consoles and hardware revisions for the future ones.
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Taharqa_
07/09/17 2:35:24 PM
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Nintendone?
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GiftedACIII
07/09/17 7:01:46 PM
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Goodo
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uwnim
07/09/17 7:04:43 PM
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That sucks, would much prefer it if that sort of thing wouldn't happen until really late(or preferably after) in a system's life.
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Darmik
07/09/17 7:06:06 PM
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Considering how tied these consoles are to online now this doesn't seem to be as big of a deal as it was a decade ago.
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GallisOTK
07/09/17 7:06:51 PM
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Aw hayle
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Etherealfare
07/09/17 7:13:38 PM
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lmao. "Nintendo can no longer profit off 25 year old SNES titles!"

*Meanwhile, at Nintendo HQ*

"Sir! We're losing revenue! At this rate the ship cannot take much longer!"
"Bah! If only we had the sales of Final Fantasy 6 from 1994 right now! Then things would be fine! Abandon your posts, everyone. I will go down with the ship!"
*Building collapses*
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Deadpool_18
07/09/17 7:15:10 PM
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chrono625 posted...
DevsBro posted...
What does this mean for players?


rooted switches

with emulators


What do these things matter?
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chrono625
07/09/17 7:18:44 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
chrono625 posted...
DevsBro posted...
What does this mean for players?


rooted switches

with emulators


What do these things matter?


he asked what it meant for players.

I gave one of many possibilities.
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chrono625
07/09/17 7:19:44 PM
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Darmik posted...
Considering how tied these consoles are to online now this doesn't seem to be as big of a deal as it was a decade ago.


I'm sure many people will be buying two switches.

one rooted and one not rooted.
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Darmik
07/09/17 7:21:46 PM
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I was curious and googled that kernel exploits also happened to both the PS4 and Wii U but yet I don't recall either of them leading to anything significant.
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MrMallard
07/09/17 7:26:10 PM
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I hope they patch it.

The Switch is still a new console - it's Nintendo's primary platform as of late, and their biggest new titles are going to be released on it. Hacking it and pirating titles on it is directly taking money out of their pockets. You hear people say that about everything from GBA games that don't get re-released and aren't capable of generating revenue to old arcade games that aren't legally allowed to be distributed due to licensing issues (which, of course, I'm not saying are okay to do stuff with), and it does start to ring a bit sanctimonious after a while. If they aren't making money on it, what makes it wrong? That's a big component to the argument made by users who are mad that their endorsement of piracy got their posts modded.

But cracking a recent console and opening the doors to pirated games is directly affecting the revenue stream of the console manufacturer, and is wrong. I'm not on board with this development, and I hope nintendo patches it before piracy and firmware modifications become commonplace.
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Calwings
07/09/17 8:05:56 PM
#36:


Note to self: don't update my Switch for a while.

Darmik posted...
I was curious and googled that kernel exploits also happened to both the PS4 and Wii U but yet I don't recall either of them leading to anything significant.

I don't know about the PS4, but the Wii U being cracked open gave it the ability to back up and load games from a USB, plus the ability to patch games. While this can open up piracy, it doesn't mean piracy became widespread. In fact, every person I know (over a dozen) that hacked their Wii U console did so either for Smash 4 mods or the Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE uncensor patch and didn't pirate a single game. Of course, once later firmware updates came, these systems often lost their ability to play online. People had to choose between their mods and being able to use online features.
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the_cajun88
07/09/17 8:08:19 PM
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I don't think this will be significant in any way.
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