Poll of the Day > This 26 y/o Girl was shot ELEVEN times by COPS cause she had a GUN to her HEAD!

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Full Throttle
07/16/17 1:31:54 AM
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Do you think the police were wrong to use lethal force?


26 y/o Ashley DiPiazza from Wisconsin was shot ELEVEN times in 2014 because she had a Gun to her head and was going to commit suicide...and now a federal jury has awarded 7 million in damages to her family because the 2 police officers, though cleared of criminal liability, used unreasonable force to shoot her!!

The civil lawsuit was brought upon her parents after Ashley was holed up in her apartment with a gun to her head..

Justin Bailey and Gary Pihlaja were cleared of criminal liability after they shot her multiple times

Ashley's family said that the officers shot her even though she threatened no one but herself and that police had violated DiPiazza's constitutional rights against unreasonable search and seizures when they killed her.

The police were called to her apartment when her bf said hey had a heated "relationship-ending" argument and Ashley was drinking and had a gun to her head..

They arrived and Ashley had a gun pointed to her own head and after attempting ot talk her down for 30 minutes with the help of a negotiator, both officers shot her 11 times...

Officers testified that they shot her when she refused to ignore their commands to drop the weapon..

In the end, the jury said the officers used unreasonable force when trying to subdue her and the family received 7 million

Unlike other criminal trials, the family only had to convince the jury that their claims are true and Ashley's parents were happy to hear that the jury understood that lethal force should not have been used as they wanted justice for Ashley.

But Jim Palmer said that this verdict sends a disconcerting message to officers because it will lead them to second guess which would put them at risk...

Do you think the Officers were Wrong to use Lethal Force?

Ashley - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/14/22/425961F500000578-4696810-image-a-73_1500067904513.jpg

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Officers who shot at her -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/14/22/4259622900000578-4696810-image-m-86_1500068073172.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/14/22/4259622D00000578-4696810-image-a-87_1500068089210.jpg

Her Parents -

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/07/14/22/4259624F00000578-4696810-image-a-88_1500068215231.jpg
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Zeus
07/16/17 1:37:58 AM
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I just don't get it. Let's say they didn't shoot her and she just shot herself, how is the result any different?

Full Throttle posted...
Do you think the Officers were Wrong to use Lethal Force?


Well, technically she had a gun and she could have turned it on them. And it is hard to disarm a person holding a gun simply by shooting them, or so people keep insisting. What if they had tried to tackle her and she turned the gun on them? You'd have dead or injured cops.
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FourthDimension
07/16/17 1:44:31 AM
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I'd imagine a bullet to the head is a much better way to go out than 11 bullets anywhere else.
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Jen0125
07/16/17 1:46:09 AM
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Everyone in those photos is unfortunate looking.
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Yellow
07/16/17 2:09:28 AM
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Sahuagin
07/16/17 2:13:11 AM
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I can't say they were wrong if she was holding a loaded gun and wouldn't drop it.

Jen0125 posted...
Everyone in those photos is unfortunate looking.

lol
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Zeus
07/16/17 2:15:33 AM
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FourthDimension posted...
I'd imagine a bullet to the head is a much better way to go out than 11 bullets anywhere else.


The thing is a gunshot to the side of the head isn't guaranteed to kill you. It's actually probably a faster, more guaranteed death with 11 torso shots.

Jen0125 posted...
Everyone in those photos is unfortunate looking.


It's an unfortunate situation.
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Cobra1010
07/16/17 2:33:03 AM
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I've been seeing quite a few of these news.

I've noticed a pattern. The police always seem to empty their whole gun at their targets.
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DevilSummoner1
07/16/17 2:33:51 AM
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Krow_Incarnate
07/16/17 2:44:07 AM
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I'm just going to assume she was repeatedly told to drop the gun and didn't. Guns can change direction pretty fast(shocker) and if she's already suicidal and the police are there, she might be thinking blaze o' glory.

Faaaaaaaair.
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Krow_Incarnate
07/16/17 2:45:18 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
I've been seeing quite a few of these news.

I've noticed a pattern. The police always seem to empty their whole gun at their targets.

Newsflash: You don't shoot not to kill. That's a good way to die. Shoot to kill or don't at all.
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Zeus
07/16/17 2:50:09 AM
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Cobra1010 posted...
I've been seeing quite a few of these news.

I've noticed a pattern. The police always seem to empty their whole gun at their targets.


I feel like I shouldn't have to explain that 11 bullets isn't a full magazine for one gun, let alone two. The glock 22 is the most common police-issued handgun and it has a 15 magazine. Given that there were two cops, there'd be 30 bullets between the two of them. Even if only half hit -- which would be terribly inaccurate for trained officers -- that'd be 15 bullet wounds.
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Syntheticon
07/16/17 3:36:13 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
26 y/o Ashley DiPiazza from Wisconsin was shot ELEVEN times in 2014 because she had a Gun to her head and was going to commit suicide...and now a federal jury has awarded 7 million in damages to her family because the 2 police officers, though cleared of criminal liability, used unreasonable force to shoot her!!

The civil lawsuit was brought upon her parents after Ashley was holed up in her apartment with a gun to her head..

Yeah, it'd be terribly upsetting if she'd shot herself in the head and died.
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deoxxys
07/16/17 1:07:29 PM
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fair

Krow_Incarnate posted...
I'm just going to assume she was repeatedly told to drop the gun and didn't. Guns can change direction pretty fast(shocker) and if she's already suicidal and the police are there, she might be thinking blaze o' glory.

Faaaaaaaair.


Plus they had a negotiator try to talk her down for thirty minutes
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JTekashiro
07/16/17 2:45:52 PM
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deoxxys posted...
fair

Krow_Incarnate posted...
I'm just going to assume she was repeatedly told to drop the gun and didn't. Guns can change direction pretty fast(shocker) and if she's already suicidal and the police are there, she might be thinking blaze o' glory.

Faaaaaaaair.


Plus they had a negotiator try to talk her down for thirty minutes


Thirty minutes is nothing, most standoffs last hours. Those cops not only failed to protect that woman, they killed her.
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darcandkharg31
07/16/17 2:53:38 PM
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Shoot the hostage.
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XlaxJynx007
07/16/17 2:55:48 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...
I've been seeing quite a few of these news.

I've noticed a pattern. The police always seem to empty their whole gun at their targets.

Eleven rounds isn't the whole mag. Besides, pistols are underpowered so multiple well-placed shots are the most effective way to stop a threat.
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Lightning Bolt
07/16/17 3:00:02 PM
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darcandkharg31 posted...
Shoot the hostage.

Can't use a hostage as leverage over us if there is no hostage. *taps head intelligently*
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DarkwingDidi
07/16/17 3:08:43 PM
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Guess that has teached her to not commit suicid.
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deoxxys
07/16/17 10:42:04 PM
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JTekashiro posted...
deoxxys posted...
fair

Krow_Incarnate posted...
I'm just going to assume she was repeatedly told to drop the gun and didn't. Guns can change direction pretty fast(shocker) and if she's already suicidal and the police are there, she might be thinking blaze o' glory.

Faaaaaaaair.


Plus they had a negotiator try to talk her down for thirty minutes


Thirty minutes is nothing, most standoffs last hours. Those cops not only failed to protect that woman, they killed her.

but she was going to kill her self?
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Lokarin
07/18/17 12:01:52 AM
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aHappySacka
07/18/17 12:14:11 AM
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They freed the hostage by killing the person holding her.
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madadude
07/18/17 12:21:08 AM
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green dragon
07/18/17 12:40:25 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
Everyone in those photos is unfortunate looking.

I shouldnt have lol'd, but I did
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JTekashiro
07/18/17 11:15:28 AM
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deoxxys posted...
JTekashiro posted...
deoxxys posted...
fair

Krow_Incarnate posted...
I'm just going to assume she was repeatedly told to drop the gun and didn't. Guns can change direction pretty fast(shocker) and if she's already suicidal and the police are there, she might be thinking blaze o' glory.

Faaaaaaaair.


Plus they had a negotiator try to talk her down for thirty minutes


Thirty minutes is nothing, most standoffs last hours. Those cops not only failed to protect that woman, they killed her.

but she was going to kill her self?


No, she said she was going to. That does not mean she actually would have.
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SinisterSlay
07/18/17 2:31:45 PM
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I guess arm and leg shots were not possible?

But with results like that, the police might as well have not shown up at all.
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ernieforss
07/18/17 2:46:10 PM
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i'm guess they are train to unload their guns. i know 11 shots isn't the whole magazine, but we don't know how many missed either.

a shot to the leg she can get angry and shoot back at them.
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green dragon
07/18/17 3:29:25 PM
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They probably stopped firing when she hit the ground
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