Poll of the Day > How do people still believe in religion in 2017

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Smh
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Brainwashing is a hell of a tool.
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Because critical thinking isnt taught in schools and some people are just born unintelligent.
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Probably because religion, at one point, had an evolutionary benefit - as pattern seeking and agency seeking are good ways to stay alive in a social environment.

So we're still hardwired to believe things on faith/emotion/intuition because it helped us survive even though it's NOW a detriment.
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Because Khorne gives me the power to slay my enemies. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
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VeeVees posted...

Because Khorne gives me the power to slay my enemies. BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

Everyone knows nifty gifties from papa nurgle are better
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... because Jesus is eternal.
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PyroBlade1985 posted...

Why do people still use "It's current year"?

seriously, its 2017 can we stop with that shit already
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PyroBlade1985 posted...

Why do people still use "It's current year"?

Because critical thinking isnt taught in schools and some people are just born unintelligent.
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Is this a legitimate question or are you just looking for attention and/or headbutting with other users?
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because people are told to believe in the fairy tale from an early age.

if you let them grow up w/o brainwashing they have a greater chance of making the intelligent choice
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How are people still intolerant of other people's beliefs in 2017? Smh
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How does the year change religion? Why would religion stop existing even a million years from now? Minus the whole "fairy-tale" angle, religion gives people a moral compass. Sure you get your extremist's but anyone can be an extremeist of anything. We get people killing each other over videogames. Also people just want to nail all the bad stuff on religion, talked to many people who hate religion because they feel it brings all the evil out. But religion saves many people and helps reform others. Religion helps a lot of people. back in the olden days people were scared of a lot of things they didn't understand, killed because killing back thing was a way of life. Now a days people realize how wrong that is and move away from that. I am a christian but i respect other religions and the people that follow them. I don't respect violent zealots or extremists and can't stand when people use religion as a way to put others down on both sides. We are all humans trying to live and any peaceful ways someone can better their lives then so be it. I just feel anyones beliefe shouldn't be squashed and statues of any religion should be okay as long as it isn't a symbol for hate.
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yutterh posted...

How does the year change religion? Why would religion stop existing even a million years from now? Minus the whole "fairy-tale" angle, religion gives people a moral compass. Sure you get your extremist's but anyone can be an extremeist of anything. We get people killing each other over videogames. Also people just want to nail all the bad stuff on religion, talked to many people who hate religion because they feel it brings all the evil out. But religion saves many people and helps reform others. Religion helps a lot of people. back in the olden days people were scared of a lot of things they didn't understand, killed because killing back thing was a way of life. Now a days people realize how wrong that is and move away from that. I am a christian but i respect other religions and the people that follow them. I don't respect violent zealots or extremists and can't stand when people use religion as a way to put others down on both sides. We are all humans trying to live and any peaceful ways someone can better their lives then so be it. I just feel anyones beliefe shouldn't be squashed and statues of any religion should be okay as long as it isn't a symbol for hate.

cause it's a popular punching bag on the internet, and prepare your butt, now some neckbeards will never leave you alone from this.

shadowsword87 posted...

yutterh posted...

How does the year change religion? Why would religion stop existing even a million years from now? Minus the whole "fairy-tale" angle, religion gives people a moral compass. Sure you get your extremist's but anyone can be an extremeist of anything. We get people killing each other over videogames. Also people just want to nail all the bad stuff on religion, talked to many people who hate religion because they feel it brings all the evil out. But religion saves many people and helps reform others. Religion helps a lot of people. back in the olden days people were scared of a lot of things they didn't understand, killed because killing back thing was a way of life. Now a days people realize how wrong that is and move away from that. I am a christian but i respect other religions and the people that follow them. I don't respect violent zealots or extremists and can't stand when people use religion as a way to put others down on both sides. We are all humans trying to live and any peaceful ways someone can better their lives then so be it. I just feel anyones beliefe shouldn't be squashed and statues of any religion should be okay as long as it isn't a symbol for hate.

cause it's a popular punching bag on the internet, and prepare your butt, now some neckbeards will never leave you alone from this.

Pretty much this.

Religion is, first of all, very private and personal. It's not something that should openly be discussed or debated. And that's because plenty of times, topics like these are designed to call out believers (the devout, the falsely devoted, the extremists etc etc ) and non-believers alike to defend their stance.

Personally speaking, I do not feel the need to justify or defend my faith. In the end, when it's all said and done, it really matters not, what others think. As long I'm not hindered in my freedom to worship and am not hindering someone's freedom, then I'm all good.

True believers should not take offense in these things. Just like we are free to worship, people are free to think for themselves. People are allowed to have opinions; even if they are opposed to one's own. True faith does not need vindication or approvals externally. It does not need to win an argument or debate. True faith rests within.
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Alexandra_Trent posted...

shadowsword87 posted...

yutterh posted...

How does the year change religion? Why would religion stop existing even a million years from now? Minus the whole "fairy-tale" angle, religion gives people a moral compass. Sure you get your extremist's but anyone can be an extremeist of anything. We get people killing each other over videogames. Also people just want to nail all the bad stuff on religion, talked to many people who hate religion because they feel it brings all the evil out. But religion saves many people and helps reform others. Religion helps a lot of people. back in the olden days people were scared of a lot of things they didn't understand, killed because killing back thing was a way of life. Now a days people realize how wrong that is and move away from that. I am a christian but i respect other religions and the people that follow them. I don't respect violent zealots or extremists and can't stand when people use religion as a way to put others down on both sides. We are all humans trying to live and any peaceful ways someone can better their lives then so be it. I just feel anyones beliefe shouldn't be squashed and statues of any religion should be okay as long as it isn't a symbol for hate.

cause it's a popular punching bag on the internet, and prepare your butt, now some neckbeards will never leave you alone from this.

Pretty much this.

Religion is, first of all, very private and personal. It's not something that should openly be discussed or debated. And that's because plenty of times, topics like these are designed to call out believers (the devout, the falsely devoted, the extremists etc etc ) and non-believers alike to defend their stance.

Personally speaking, I do not feel the need to justify or defend my faith. In the end, when it's all said and done, it really matters not, what others think. As long I'm not hindered in my freedom to worship and am not hindering someone's freedom, then I'm all good.

True believers should not take offense in these things. Just like we are free to worship, people are free to think for themselves. People are allowed to have opinions; even if they are opposed to one's own. True faith does not need vindication or approvals externally. It does not need to win an argument or debate. True faith rests within.

Exactly this too. Though i don't mind debates, helps me understand my faith and just hardens it even more honestly.
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yutterh posted...

Alexandra_Trent posted...

shadowsword87 posted...

yutterh posted...

How does the year change religion? Why would religion stop existing even a million years from now? Minus the whole "fairy-tale" angle, religion gives people a moral compass. Sure you get your extremist's but anyone can be an extremeist of anything. We get people killing each other over videogames. Also people just want to nail all the bad stuff on religion, talked to many people who hate religion because they feel it brings all the evil out. But religion saves many people and helps reform others. Religion helps a lot of people. back in the olden days people were scared of a lot of things they didn't understand, killed because killing back thing was a way of life. Now a days people realize how wrong that is and move away from that. I am a christian but i respect other religions and the people that follow them. I don't respect violent zealots or extremists and can't stand when people use religion as a way to put others down on both sides. We are all humans trying to live and any peaceful ways someone can better their lives then so be it. I just feel anyones beliefe shouldn't be squashed and statues of any religion should be okay as long as it isn't a symbol for hate.

cause it's a popular punching bag on the internet, and prepare your butt, now some neckbeards will never leave you alone from this.

Pretty much this.

Religion is, first of all, very private and personal. It's not something that should openly be discussed or debated. And that's because plenty of times, topics like these are designed to call out believers (the devout, the falsely devoted, the extremists etc etc ) and non-believers alike to defend their stance.

Personally speaking, I do not feel the need to justify or defend my faith. In the end, when it's all said and done, it really matters not, what others think. As long I'm not hindered in my freedom to worship and am not hindering someone's freedom, then I'm all good.

True believers should not take offense in these things. Just like we are free to worship, people are free to think for themselves. People are allowed to have opinions; even if they are opposed to one's own. True faith does not need vindication or approvals externally. It does not need to win an argument or debate. True faith rests within.

Exactly this too. Though i don't mind debates, helps me understand my faith and just hardens it even more honestly.

Absolutely.

True faith does not exclude facts nor should it deny them. It's all about seeking common ground without malice and hatred; only respect.

:)))
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This is why the current year plus 2 is so shit. The lack of spiritualism causes major social degeneracy. In Hinduism they call the period we live in the Kali Yuga.

"Kali Yuga: The final age. It is the age of darkness and ignorance. People become sinners and lack virtue. They become slaves to their passions and are barely as powerful as their earliest ancestors in the Satya Yuga. Society falls into disuse and people become liars and hypocrites. Knowledge is lost and scriptures are diminished. Humans eat forbidden and dirty food. The environment is polluted, water and food become scarce. Wealth is heavily diminished. Families become non-existent. Average lifespan of people is barely 100 years, though, by the end of the Yuga, it will be as low as 20 years."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga

There has been a lot of "weakness" feeling in religion lately. It's like... "Why should I be part of this, it doesn't give me money, status, spirituality". The pussification of men by American society that most started in the late 90s and early 2000s certainly doesn't help. There is barely good influences out there nowdays for masculine men to hold on to. A figure that inspired me to look into christianity again is Yoel Romero. A freak athele, who's an olympic wrestler and top 5 in the UFC. He's the self proclaimed soldier of god. I didn't think nothing of it 2 years ago but I began to think he's onto something.

You merely have to be influenced to believe by someone you look up to. There is a lot of wisdom in many scriptures from many religions such as the one above for hinduism. It is an enlightenment that feeds the soul and thus feeds the mind. To become strong willed can sometimes require some help. Most of us do not want to be helped by religion, that we can "help ourselves".

"Getting high on Jesus" is like getting high on life. When life falters to the lowest point of darkness.... like those of homeless, some turn to religion for answers.

Look up the history of the crusaders. Religious knights in shining armor.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cMjUFBYEzqQ/maxresdefault.jpg

I ask myself this question all the time.
The conclusion I made is that some people are weak willed and need it.
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This is a good discussion
Inb4 some neckbeards (aka mod) buldoze this thread cause it harm his believe
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I'd argue that religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They both describe the same things but in different terms. It's only when the religion side is taken literally and imposed on others that it becomes a problem.
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ha21nagamas posted...

This is a good discussion

Like, bro, you're kidding right?

Look at these and tell me if people here are trying to have a good discussion or not:

thecolorgreen posted...

Smh

TheCyborgNinja posted...

Brainwashing is a hell of a tool.

CountessRolab posted...

Because critical thinking isnt taught in schools and some people are just born unintelligent.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

because people are told to believe in the fairy tale from an early age.

if you let them grow up w/o brainwashing they have a greater chance of making the intelligent choice

Spoiler: They're not. Nothing good ever comes out of theism vs atheism "debates".

I was thinking about this today and will post a long response later since I'm curious on how people will interpret it
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Peterass posted...

I'd argue that religion and science are two sides of the same coin. They both describe the same things but in different terms. It's only when the religion side is taken literally and imposed on others that it becomes a problem.

The same with pseudo science or science that is financed with a political goal.

ha21nagamas posted...

This is a good discussion
Inb4 some neckbeards (aka mod) buldoze this thread cause it harm his believe

You just made it right before the fist Atheism post.
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So much edge.
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I don't believe in any religion.
But people are free to believe whatever they want, as long as they aren't forcing their beliefs on others.
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How do people not know how to talk to girls in 2017?

smh

Religion isn't going anywhere. How else are we going to learn about magic?

Hell, some religion is taught in school unknowingly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoreanism
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

How are people still intolerant of other people's beliefs in 2017? Smh

Got him.

It's sad and hilarious that having a belief is tantamount to being brainwashed. I'll argue that those who choose to not have faith in a belief are also brainwashed....by the devil!
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Religion is one of the most enduring human experiences, just because you're an edgelord doesn't mean it's going anywhere.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

How are people still intolerant of other people's beliefs in 2017? Smh

this
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I'd still be religious if it wasn't for Family Guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hROqyyATw0I

It all comes down to culture. If you're born in England surrounded by people who openly mock religion you're going to take that for granted. Otherwise, everything about it is designed to keep you in and faith is romanticized to a ridiculous extent.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

How are people still intolerant of other people's beliefs in 2017? Smh

Because terrible beliefs are worthy of ridicule so they go away. You're better off removing a gangrenous limb than dying trying to keep it.
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More like, how do people not know more about religion and it's teachings?
I've researched parts of the bible and some of it kind of make sense, the rules and structure of Christianity (at least) just seem to make sense
Like the 7 sins, it is to be believed that humans should abstain from them. Is there any real reason not to? Heck, I've read a few things about Buddhism and even from those few glimpse there's something so peaceful and serene about it.
It beats being an edgelord Atheist always gloom and insulting others :v

green dragon posted...

How do people not know how to talk to girls in 2017?

smh

Riggity rekt
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green dragon posted...

How do people not know how to talk to girls in 2017?

smh

Does it count if I don't know how to talk to people in general?

I totes have no issues talking to the random people on the other side of my monitor tho.
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congratulations on the worst topic of 2017 so far
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Smarkil posted...

perfect
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Troll_Police_ posted...

Smarkil posted...

perfect

Tbh, a lot of this "current year" nonsense was derived by a lot of the "singularity" talk that we had 10-ish years ago. We live in an age of constant social, political and moral upheaval. If you aren't up to date with all of the dank groupthink then you're gonna be left behind.
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Person106 posted...

Is this a legitimate question or are you just looking for attention and/or headbutting with other users?

Attention seeking; I posted a legitimate anthropological answer and the TC never showed up again.
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Apparently I forgot that God was proven not to exist earlier this year. Sorry about that, I'll try harder.
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Golden Road posted...

Apparently I forgot that God was proven not to exist earlier this year. Sorry about that, I'll try harder.

No evidence for a negative claim is required since there's no evidence for a positive claim yet
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Judgmenl posted...

ha21nagamas posted...

This is a good discussion
Inb4 some neckbeards (aka mod) buldoze this thread cause it harm his believe

You just made it right before the fist Atheism post.

I won something right?
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Opinions != facts
Beliefs != opinions
Facts != opinions

In my opinion, I own a million dollars.
I believe I own a million dollars.
I own a million dollars.

People in 2017 are still misusing the word opinion. Opinion is your "the best color".
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Yellow posted...

Opinions != facts
Beliefs != opinions
Facts != opinions

In my opinion, I own a million dollars.
I believe I own a million dollars.
I own a million dollars.

People in 2017 are still misusing the word opinion.

This may be the best post you've ever made. I'm straight and I'm a little attracted to you after reading it.
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Yellow posted...

Opinions != facts
Beliefs != opinions
Facts != opinions

In my opinion, I own a million dollars.
I believe I own a million dollars.
I own a million dollars.

People in 2017 are still misusing the word opinion. Opinion is your "the best color".

However, there are things that are both facts and opinions, such as "George Washington was the first president of the United States"
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Burden of proof logical fallacy and double think is still a thing.

CountessRolab posted...

Because critical thinking isnt taught in schools and some people are just born unintelligent.

Not only is critical thinking not taught, accepting what authority figures say as absolute truth is taught.
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