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Malcolm_Caradoc 07/21/17 9:43:16 PM #153:	Mal_Fet posted... Malcolm_Caradoc posted... Vertania posted... It's still crazy to me that I feel like I can't even say "our president is not that bad" without fear of alienating people. Like, I always knew I had those few far right wing friends and family members who I knew not to talk about Obama around, but now it seems like mentioning Trump around anyone is like walking on eggshells. Maybe because it reflects on your character to support someone who's a racist misogynist sexual assaulting Putinist authoritarian corrupt demagogue I actually can't tell if you're a leftist or just parodying leftists at this point I was having the same trouble deciding if you're an actual human being or some kind of exoskeletal reptilian from prehistoria --- M. <cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted [p:883363056] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote>It's still crazy to me that I feel like I can't even say "our president is not that bad" without fear of alienating people. Like, I always knew I had those few far right wing friends and family members who I knew not to talk about Obama around, but now it seems like mentioning Trump around anyone is like walking on eggshells.</quote> Maybe because it reflects on your character to support someone who's a racist misogynist sexual assaulting Putinist authoritarian corrupt demagogue</quote> I actually can't tell if you're a leftist or just parodying leftists at this point</quote> I was having the same trouble deciding if you're an actual human being or some kind of exoskeletal reptilian from prehistoria</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 07/21/17 9:47:19 PM #154:	Malcolm_Caradoc posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... Mal_Fet posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... I mean, if Sanders actually won and had fucked up as much as Trump had Aside from the Russia allegations, what specific things has Trump done that's so terrible Several failed immigration bans the Paris agreement draining the swamp of politicians and filling it with corporate america this whole abortion of a health care plan republicans had 7 years to prepare for cutting the parks budget and then asking for a pat on the back after making a donation to them failed promises left and right concerning the wall, coal miners, etc wasting tax payer money because his wife did not want to live with him tons of other shit i'm too lazy to type out Let me ask you a question in retort. Outside of withdrawing from the TPP, what are the positive things Trump has done? The worst things about Trump arent any of those things, it's the demagoguery, exploiting people's fears of the shrinking white majority for votes, "a taco truck on every corner" rhetoric, threatening to murder the innocent families of suspected terrorists, supporting torture, the otherization of Muslims, mainstreaming hate and prejudice and if you're brave enough to DENOUNCE hate and prejudice that means youre intolerant of other people's opinions. To say nothing of his penchant for authoritarianism, which includes making people doubt the election system by claiming 3 million illegal votes so he can have an excuse to refuse to give up power in 2020, lying about election crowd sizes, stacking the govt with family and business partners and other people who are loyal to Trump first and country second, the blatant graft and corruption, firing the people investigating him, then bragging to the Russian ambassador about how it took the pressure off, being besties with dictators like Putin and Erdogan while giving democratic allies the cold shoulder, sowing distrust for journalists and other institutions that dare question him, these things have a name. Authoritarianism, thy name is Trump! Sexual assault against numerous women, blatant racism, betraying top secret info to the Russians, the list goes on. Trumpistas are not my friends and never shall be if they support Trump. See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:883363252] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>I mean, if Sanders actually won and had fucked up as much as Trump had </quote> Aside from the Russia allegations, what specific things has Trump done that's so terrible</quote> Several failed immigration bans the Paris agreement draining the swamp of politicians and filling it with corporate america this whole abortion of a health care plan republicans had 7 years to prepare for cutting the parks budget and then asking for a pat on the back after making a donation to them failed promises left and right concerning the wall, coal miners, etc wasting tax payer money because his wife did not want to live with him tons of other shit i'm too lazy to type out Let me ask you a question in retort. Outside of withdrawing from the TPP, what are the positive things Trump has done?</quote> The worst things about Trump arent any of those things, it's the demagoguery, exploiting people's fears of the shrinking white majority for votes, "a taco truck on every corner" rhetoric, threatening to murder the innocent families of suspected terrorists, supporting torture, the otherization of Muslims, mainstreaming hate and prejudice and if you're brave enough to DENOUNCE hate and prejudice that means youre intolerant of other people's opinions. To say nothing of his penchant for authoritarianism, which includes making people doubt the election system by claiming 3 million illegal votes so he can have an excuse to refuse to give up power in 2020, lying about election crowd sizes, stacking the govt with family and business partners and other people who are loyal to Trump first and country second, the blatant graft and corruption, firing the people investigating him, then bragging to the Russian ambassador about how it took the pressure off, being besties with dictators like Putin and Erdogan while giving democratic allies the cold shoulder, sowing distrust for journalists and other institutions that dare question him, these things have a name. Authoritarianism, thy name is Trump! Sexual assault against numerous women, blatant racism, betraying top secret info to the Russians, the list goes on. Trumpistas are not my friends and never shall be if they support Trump.</quote> See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/21/17 9:48:26 PM #155:	Lorenzo_2003 posted... The Hitler argument, really?! You've been on the Internet long enough to know by now that mentioning Hitler means you automatically lose. Says who, no other place would someone suggest removing something that everyone knows and understand. I could say king Leo but half of the people here would not know what he fuck he did wrong. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:883363299] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote> The Hitler argument, really?! You've been on the Internet long enough to know by now that mentioning Hitler means you automatically lose.</quote> Says who, no other place would someone suggest removing something that everyone knows and understand. I could say king Leo but half of the people here would not know what he fuck he did wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/21/17 9:50:48 PM #156:	TheBiggerWiggle posted... See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person. Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883363421] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person.</quote> Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 07/21/17 9:51:21 PM #157:	I don't see what the problem is with this poll. If you and a friend don't believe in the same fundamental beliefs then it's kind of hard to sustain that friendship --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:883363456] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>I don't see what the problem is with this poll. If you and a friend don't believe in the same fundamental beliefs then it's kind of hard to sustain that friendship</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Capn Circus 07/21/17 9:51:36 PM #158:	yusiko posted... Doom_Art posted... Mal_Fet posted... That's probably because it's a real, observable thing. Nah much like "throwing gay people off buildings" and "chuck her into a van" it's a tested slogan the alt-right likes to toss out because it makes them seem like they're making a cohesive and powerful point when in reality they're just regurgitating something without thinking. of course when the alt right bring up throwing gay people off of buildings its not because they are concerned they are just jealous they arent allowed to do that in america That's not true. There are gay/bi, even trans (see Caitlyn Jenner) Trump supporters. Millions even, when you consider the number of that demographic in America and take into account those who may have supported Trump. Same with Hispanics. Despite Trump being supposedly "very very very racist and awful to Hispanics"---Trump had a larger Hispanic vote than Romney. A few million black citizens voted for Trump, too. There's enough black Trump supporters to populate the entire city of Houston, which is the 4th largest city in America. And that's not even including all of the mixed raced individuals who voted for him. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks <cite>Capn Circus posted [p:883363471] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote>That's probably because it's a real, observable thing. </quote> Nah much like "throwing gay people off buildings" and "chuck her into a van" it's a tested slogan the alt-right likes to toss out because it makes them seem like they're making a cohesive and powerful point when in reality they're just regurgitating something without thinking.</quote> of course when the alt right bring up throwing gay people off of buildings its not because they are concerned they are just jealous they arent allowed to do that in america</quote> That's not true. There are gay/bi, even trans (see Caitlyn Jenner) Trump supporters. Millions even, when you consider the number of that demographic in America and take into account those who may have supported Trump. Same with Hispanics. Despite Trump being supposedly "very very very racist and awful to Hispanics"---Trump had a larger Hispanic vote than Romney. A few million black citizens voted for Trump, too. There's enough black Trump supporters to populate the entire city of Houston, which is the 4th largest city in America. And that's not even including all of the mixed raced individuals who voted for him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcolm_Caradoc 07/21/17 9:51:43 PM #159:	cjsdowg posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... The Hitler argument, really?! You've been on the Internet long enough to know by now that mentioning Hitler means you automatically lose. Says who, no other place would someone suggest removing something that everyone knows and understand. I could say king Leo but half of the people here would not know what he fuck he did wrong. Don't let Mal Fet's kind bully you, you done good son --- M. <cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted [p:883363475] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote> The Hitler argument, really?! You've been on the Internet long enough to know by now that mentioning Hitler means you automatically lose.</quote> Says who, no other place would someone suggest removing something that everyone knows and understand. I could say king Leo but half of the people here would not know what he fuck he did wrong.</quote> Don't let Mal Fet's kind bully you, you done good son</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Transcendentia 07/21/17 9:51:44 PM #160:	The Admiral posted... Anti-Trump fragility is off the charts. <cite>Transcendentia posted [p:883363479] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>Anti-Trump fragility is off the charts.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GoldSocksForWok 07/21/17 9:52:58 PM #161:	People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends. --- Steam/NNID/XBLA/PSN/LoL: BloodFislandMan Unbiased Gamer / NP: FFXIV, Zelda BotW, Horizon Zero Dawn, Witcher 3, and Pokemon Sun <cite>GoldSocksForWok posted [p:883363535] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/21/17 9:54:05 PM #162:	Malcolm_Caradoc posted... cjsdowg posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... The Hitler argument, really?! You've been on the Internet long enough to know by now that mentioning Hitler means you automatically lose. Says who, no other place would someone suggest removing something that everyone knows and understand. I could say king Leo but half of the people here would not know what he fuck he did wrong. Don't let Mal Fet's kind bully you, you done good son cjsdowg got called "son" by a white guy but watch him not take offense to it. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883363586] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote> The Hitler argument, really?! You've been on the Internet long enough to know by now that mentioning Hitler means you automatically lose.</quote> Says who, no other place would someone suggest removing something that everyone knows and understand. I could say king Leo but half of the people here would not know what he fuck he did wrong.</quote> Don't let Mal Fet's kind bully you, you done good son</quote> cjsdowg got called "son" by a white guy but watch him not take offense to it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 07/21/17 9:55:05 PM #163:	Malcolm_Caradoc posted... Maybe because it reflects on your character to support someone who's a racist misogynist sexual assaulting Putinist authoritarian corrupt demagogue You're demonstrating my point exactly. Many people would be quick to start hurling substanceless "-ist" labels at the first mention of Trump, then shut down any discussion. Once you lay that card, they automatically assume everything you believe. Also, I make it very clear that I didn't vote for him, but that I'm still kind of happy he won and that I think he gets way too much shit. I wouldn't call that "supporting" him, so much as "giving him a chance." <cite>Vertania posted [p:883363631] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe because it reflects on your character to support someone who's a racist misogynist sexual assaulting Putinist authoritarian corrupt demagogue</quote> You're demonstrating my point exactly. Many people would be quick to start hurling substanceless "-ist" labels at the first mention of Trump, then shut down any discussion. Once you lay that card, they automatically assume everything you believe. Also, I make it very clear that I didn't vote for him, but that I'm still kind of happy he won and that I think he gets way too much shit. I wouldn't call that "supporting" him, so much as "giving him a chance."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/21/17 9:56:25 PM #164:	Mal_Fet posted... Malcolm_Caradoc posted... cjsdowg posted... Lorenzo_2003 posted... The Hitler argument, really?! You've been on the Internet long enough to know by now that mentioning Hitler means you automatically lose. Says who, no other place would someone suggest removing something that everyone knows and understand. I could say king Leo but half of the people here would not know what he fuck he did wrong. Don't let Mal Fet's kind bully you, you done good son cjsdowg got called "son" by a white guy but watch him not take offense to it. I'm not a fan of you Mal but I gotta admit this made me chuckle pretty hard. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883363704] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lorenzo_2003 posted...</cite> <quote> The Hitler argument, really?! You've been on the Internet long enough to know by now that mentioning Hitler means you automatically lose.</quote> Says who, no other place would someone suggest removing something that everyone knows and understand. I could say king Leo but half of the people here would not know what he fuck he did wrong.</quote> Don't let Mal Fet's kind bully you, you done good son</quote> cjsdowg got called "son" by a white guy but watch him not take offense to it.</quote> I'm not a fan of you Mal but I gotta admit this made me chuckle pretty hard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/21/17 9:56:34 PM #165:	Babies. --- http://m.imgur.com/BtD5etN?r https://m.imgur.com/a/jclul http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:883363710] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>Babies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcolm_Caradoc 07/21/17 9:56:54 PM #166:	GoldSocksForWok posted... People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends. I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame --- M. <cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted [p:883363727] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldSocksForWok posted...</cite> <quote>People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends.</quote> I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/21/17 10:00:58 PM #167:	Malcolm_Caradoc posted... GoldSocksForWok posted... People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends. I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame Apparently family too. The perfect portrayal of holier than thou, he won't try to have a discussion on the matter and sway your opinion with reason, he'll just laugh at his family and take misplaced pride in his superiority. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883363920] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldSocksForWok posted...</cite> <quote>People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends.</quote> I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame</quote> Apparently family too. The perfect portrayal of holier than thou, he won't try to have a discussion on the matter and sway your opinion with reason, he'll just laugh at his family and take misplaced pride in his superiority.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/21/17 10:05:48 PM #168:	Zeeak4444 posted... Malcolm_Caradoc posted... GoldSocksForWok posted... People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends. I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame Apparently family too. The perfect portrayal of holier than thou, he won't try to have a discussion on the matter and sway your opinion with reason, he'll just laugh at his family and take misplaced pride in his superiority. Malcolm is trolling. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883364164] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldSocksForWok posted...</cite> <quote>People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends.</quote> I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame</quote> Apparently family too. The perfect portrayal of holier than thou, he won't try to have a discussion on the matter and sway your opinion with reason, he'll just laugh at his family and take misplaced pride in his superiority.</quote> Malcolm is trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Malcolm_Caradoc 07/21/17 10:09:55 PM #169:	Zeeak4444 posted... Malcolm_Caradoc posted... GoldSocksForWok posted... People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends. I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame Apparently family too. The perfect portrayal of holier than thou, he won't try to have a discussion on the matter and sway your opinion with reason, he'll just laugh at his family and take misplaced pride in his superiority. Tried many times and a hell of a lot more tactfully than I am here. People arent interested in debating things, they want to pretend like politics doesnt matter while they march steadily towards radical rightism. If someone is convinced Obama's a Muslim Bernie's a communist and Hillary's a murderer I ain't gonna convince them otherwise, theyre in too deep, been swigging that Glenn Beck Bill O'Reilly kool aid too long. I dont bitch at people but I dont go out of my way to attend family get togethers with them, last one I did my grampa said he'd like to take a gun and shoot all of BLM, I dont need what loving memories I have getting corrupted by that shit thanks. --- M. <cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted [p:883364343] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldSocksForWok posted...</cite> <quote>People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends.</quote> I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame</quote> Apparently family too. The perfect portrayal of holier than thou, he won't try to have a discussion on the matter and sway your opinion with reason, he'll just laugh at his family and take misplaced pride in his superiority.</quote> Tried many times and a hell of a lot more tactfully than I am here. People arent interested in debating things, they want to pretend like politics doesnt matter while they march steadily towards radical rightism. If someone is convinced Obama's a Muslim Bernie's a communist and Hillary's a murderer I ain't gonna convince them otherwise, theyre in too deep, been swigging that Glenn Beck Bill O'Reilly kool aid too long. I dont bitch at people but I dont go out of my way to attend family get togethers with them, last one I did my grampa said he'd like to take a gun and shoot all of BLM, I dont need what loving memories I have getting corrupted by that shit thanks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/21/17 10:16:15 PM #170:	Malcolm_Caradoc posted... Zeeak4444 posted... Malcolm_Caradoc posted... GoldSocksForWok posted... People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends. I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame Apparently family too. The perfect portrayal of holier than thou, he won't try to have a discussion on the matter and sway your opinion with reason, he'll just laugh at his family and take misplaced pride in his superiority. Tried many times and a hell of a lot more tactfully than I am here. People arent interested in debating things, they want to pretend like politics doesnt matter while they march steadily towards radical rightism. If someone is convinced Obama's a Muslim Bernie's a communist and Hillary's a murderer I ain't gonna convince them otherwise, theyre in too deep, been swigging that Glenn Beck Bill O'Reilly kool aid too long. I dont bitch at people but I dont go out of my way to attend family get togethers with them, last one I did my grampa said he'd like to take a gun and shoot all of BLM, I dont need what loving memories I have getting corrupted by that shit thanks. Fair enough, that sounds terrible. Sorry you have to deal with that bullshit. I do disagree you won't convince them otherwise though, you probably know them better than most, with the right approach you're probably the only one who can change their mind. I won't pretend to know them so I won't suggest anything, my best advice is to appeal to their ethos, logos, or pathos though once you've identified it. I take a different approach with pretty much every person I meet (not saying you don't). Best of luck though. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883364649] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Malcolm_Caradoc posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GoldSocksForWok posted...</cite> <quote>People that let politics get in the way are not worth having as friends.</quote> I love my country more than I love Trumpista "friends" thats why I stand up for my convictions without shame</quote> Apparently family too. The perfect portrayal of holier than thou, he won't try to have a discussion on the matter and sway your opinion with reason, he'll just laugh at his family and take misplaced pride in his superiority.</quote> Tried many times and a hell of a lot more tactfully than I am here. People arent interested in debating things, they want to pretend like politics doesnt matter while they march steadily towards radical rightism. If someone is convinced Obama's a Muslim Bernie's a communist and Hillary's a murderer I ain't gonna convince them otherwise, theyre in too deep, been swigging that Glenn Beck Bill O'Reilly kool aid too long. I dont bitch at people but I dont go out of my way to attend family get togethers with them, last one I did my grampa said he'd like to take a gun and shoot all of BLM, I dont need what loving memories I have getting corrupted by that shit thanks.</quote> Fair enough, that sounds terrible. Sorry you have to deal with that bullshit. I do disagree you won't convince them otherwise though, you probably know them better than most, with the right approach you're probably the only one who can change their mind. I won't pretend to know them so I won't suggest anything, my best advice is to appeal to their ethos, logos, or pathos though once you've identified it. I take a different approach with pretty much every person I meet (not saying you don't). Best of luck though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vertania 07/21/17 10:31:52 PM #172:	Zeeak4444 posted... I do disagree you won't convince them otherwise though, you probably know them better than most, with the right approach you're probably the only one who can change their mind. I won't pretend to know them so I won't suggest anything, my best advice is to appeal to their ethos, logos, or pathos though once you've identified it. Going into the conversation expecting to change their mind is part of the problem. It's basically assuming that you're right and they're wrong, which is just going to make them think you're a pompous ass and push them farther away. I usually try to start by understanding why they believe what that do. If they give a half decent reason, I'll take it in, then give my input. If they say something that's blatantly false or extremely disagreeable, then I'll counter it. <cite>Vertania posted [p:883365386] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>I do disagree you won't convince them otherwise though, you probably know them better than most, with the right approach you're probably the only one who can change their mind. I won't pretend to know them so I won't suggest anything, my best advice is to appeal to their ethos, logos, or pathos though once you've identified it.</quote> Going into the conversation expecting to change their mind is part of the problem. It's basically assuming that you're right and they're wrong, which is just going to make them think you're a pompous ass and push them farther away. I usually try to start by understanding why they believe what that do. If they give a half decent reason, I'll take it in, then give my input. If they say something that's blatantly false or extremely disagreeable, then I'll counter it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nesplayer 07/21/17 10:35:49 PM #173:	I'm neither. I'm **ing tired of the right AND left. Give some other person a chance, and while you're at it make the debates fair. --- I changed the subject of my community board https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1119-forum-games <cite>nesplayer posted [p:883365557] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>I'm neither. I'm **ing tired of the right AND left. Give some other person a chance, and while you're at it make the debates fair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 07/21/17 10:38:15 PM #174:	thronedfire2 posted... I'm pretty sure this has less to do with liberals being petty and more to do with trump being a terrible president and most of his supporters being racist/ignorant/impossible to deal with Look no further than this board for proof of that statement. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:883365661] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>thronedfire2 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure this has less to do with liberals being petty and more to do with trump being a terrible president and most of his supporters being racist/ignorant/impossible to deal with</quote> Look no further than this board for proof of that statement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpreadManning 07/21/17 10:40:11 PM #175:	Not surprising. Trump really triggers regressives. <cite>SpreadManning posted [p:883365764] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>Not surprising. Trump really triggers regressives.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 07/21/17 10:40:35 PM #176:	Vertania posted... Zeeak4444 posted... I do disagree you won't convince them otherwise though, you probably know them better than most, with the right approach you're probably the only one who can change their mind. I won't pretend to know them so I won't suggest anything, my best advice is to appeal to their ethos, logos, or pathos though once you've identified it. Going into the conversation expecting to change their mind is part of the problem. It's basically assuming that you're right and they're wrong, which is just going to make them think you're a pompous ass and push them farther away. I usually try to start by understanding why they believe what that do. If they give a half decent reason, I'll take it in, then give my input. If they say something that's blatantly false or extremely disagreeable, then I'll counter it. Very true and often understated, I tend to forget not everyone has that kind of mindset. I appreciate you elaborating on my post. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:883365782] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vertania posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeeak4444 posted...</cite> <quote>I do disagree you won't convince them otherwise though, you probably know them better than most, with the right approach you're probably the only one who can change their mind. I won't pretend to know them so I won't suggest anything, my best advice is to appeal to their ethos, logos, or pathos though once you've identified it.</quote> Going into the conversation expecting to change their mind is part of the problem. It's basically assuming that you're right and they're wrong, which is just going to make them think you're a pompous ass and push them farther away. I usually try to start by understanding why they believe what that do. If they give a half decent reason, I'll take it in, then give my input. If they say something that's blatantly false or extremely disagreeable, then I'll counter it.</quote> Very true and often understated, I tend to forget not everyone has that kind of mindset. I appreciate you elaborating on my post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 07/21/17 10:45:28 PM #177:	Mal_Fet posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person. Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes? This is some straw man shit right here. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:883366032] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person.</quote> Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes?</quote> This is some straw man shit right here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HydraSlayer82 07/21/17 10:52:22 PM #179:	This topic is living up to the OP. --- Sigless user <cite>HydraSlayer82 posted [p:883366400] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>This topic is living up to the OP.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/21/17 10:55:18 PM #180:	TheBiggerWiggle posted... Mal_Fet posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person. Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes? This is some straw man shit right here. If Trump supporters are in support of literally everything Trump says, why aren't Hillary's supporters in support of literally everything Hillary has said? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883366530] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person.</quote> Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes?</quote> This is some straw man shit right here.</quote> If Trump supporters are in support of literally everything Trump says, why aren't Hillary's supporters in support of literally everything Hillary has said?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/21/17 11:03:39 PM #181:	I wouldn't fuck with someone who voted trump either. I can't even see how this is news --- No one gets in the way of my frisbee games! NO ONE! <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:883366886] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>I wouldn't fuck with someone who voted trump either. I can't even see how this is news</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shnangyboos 07/21/17 11:11:20 PM #182:	I bet a lot of these fuckers would cut ties with their family if they voted for him. And probably have. --- How's my posting? Call http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/182361-human-resource-machine for any comments or concerns. <cite>shnangyboos posted [p:883367265] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>I bet a lot of these fuckers would cut ties with their family if they voted for him. And probably have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vertania 07/21/17 11:15:54 PM #183:	shnangyboos posted... I bet a lot of these fuckers would cut ties with their family if they voted for him. And probably have. Two of my uncles stopped talking to each other for months because of the election. It took my grandma going into the hospital to get them to drop it. <cite>Vertania posted [p:883367490] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>shnangyboos posted...</cite> <quote>I bet a lot of these fuckers would cut ties with their family if they voted for him. And probably have.</quote> Two of my uncles stopped talking to each other for months because of the election. It took my grandma going into the hospital to get them to drop it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VicVinegar 07/21/17 11:23:24 PM #184:	You realize these numbers only represent people lame enough to take said poll? --- Vic Vinegar. Bodyguard. I don't shake hands. <cite>VicVinegar posted [p:883367813] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>You realize these numbers only represent people lame enough to take said poll?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mal_Fet 07/21/17 11:43:39 PM #185:	VicVinegar posted... You realize these numbers only represent people lame enough to take said poll? Looks as if said people are posting in this very topic. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell <cite>Mal_Fet posted [p:883368743] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>VicVinegar posted...</cite> <quote>You realize these numbers only represent people lame enough to take said poll?</quote> Looks as if said people are posting in this very topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 07/21/17 11:48:16 PM #186:	Mal_Fet posted... VicVinegar posted... You realize these numbers only represent people lame enough to take said poll? Looks as if said people are posting in this very topic. It appears more likely they've gone to bed, and you're the one graceless enough to resurrect this topic whilst, at the same time, attacking them in their absence. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:883368938] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VicVinegar posted...</cite> <quote>You realize these numbers only represent people lame enough to take said poll?</quote> Looks as if said people are posting in this very topic.</quote> It appears more likely they've gone to bed, and you're the one graceless enough to resurrect this topic whilst, at the same time, attacking them in their absence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 07/21/17 11:53:26 PM #187:	I have a couple of Trump supporting friends here in Australia, but none of them are as obnoxious as mal fet or any other trump supporter on this website. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:883369187] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>I have a couple of Trump supporting friends here in Australia, but none of them are as obnoxious as mal fet or any other trump supporter on this website.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/21/17 11:55:13 PM #188:	Liberals think someone's political views defines who someone is. Conservatives understand the identity and character of a human being is much more complex than one's political ideas. It's ironic who the real tolerant people are, but can't say I'm surprised given current events such as Berkeley or Evergreen. I say this as a left leaning libertarian --- You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen Colbert <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:883369266] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>Liberals think someone's political views defines who someone is. Conservatives understand the identity and character of a human being is much more complex than one's political ideas. It's ironic who the real tolerant people are, but can't say I'm surprised given current events such as Berkeley or Evergreen. I say this as a left leaning libertarian</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 07/22/17 12:00:49 AM #189:	Mal_Fet posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... Mal_Fet posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person. Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes? This is some straw man shit right here. If Trump supporters are in support of literally everything Trump says, why aren't Hillary's supporters in support of literally everything Hillary has said? Tbf he can't see past his own bias so it's not surprising he's feigning ignorance. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:883369519] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person.</quote> Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes?</quote> This is some straw man shit right here.</quote> If Trump supporters are in support of literally everything Trump says, why aren't Hillary's supporters in support of literally everything Hillary has said?</quote>Tbf he can't see past his own bias so it's not surprising he's feigning ignorance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
unclekoolaid73 07/22/17 12:02:55 AM #190:	DAYUM!!! Mal_fett is melting snow flakes up in here --- http://imgur.com/NilNCvi <cite>unclekoolaid73 posted [p:883369610] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>DAYUM!!! Mal_fett is melting snow flakes up in here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lukabrosci 07/22/17 12:05:36 AM #191:	I'd equate Trump support to being a flat earther and I'd never be friends with someone that dumb. If you can't accept reality you are toxic. <cite>lukabrosci posted [p:883369728] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>I'd equate Trump support to being a flat earther and I'd never be friends with someone that dumb. If you can't accept reality you are toxic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/22/17 12:08:39 AM #192:	Kazi1212 posted... Liberals think someone's political views defines who someone is. Conservatives understand the identity and character of a human being is much more complex than one's political ideas. It's ironic who the real tolerant people are, but can't say I'm surprised given current events such as Berkeley or Evergreen. I say this as a left leaning libertarian So I should support people who endorse Neo-Nazis to attack black people or I am intolerant. I love the idea that people like yourself seem to have.. if you don't support hate then you are really the intolerant ones. Not the people who support Neo-Nazis, banning people from some nations, ect. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:883369863] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals think someone's political views defines who someone is. Conservatives understand the identity and character of a human being is much more complex than one's political ideas. It's ironic who the real tolerant people are, but can't say I'm surprised given current events such as Berkeley or Evergreen. I say this as a left leaning libertarian</quote> So I should support people who endorse Neo-Nazis to attack black people or I am intolerant. I love the idea that people like yourself seem to have.. if you don't support hate then you are really the intolerant ones. Not the people who support Neo-Nazis, banning people from some nations, ect.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/22/17 12:14:11 AM #193:	wait a minute. I thought Trump supporters didn't believe in polls? Fail topic. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:883370122] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>wait a minute. I thought Trump supporters didn't believe in polls? Fail topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cerealbox760 07/22/17 12:18:49 AM #194:	And there's a big difference between actual conservatives and Trump supporters. Any conservative worth his salt knows Trump is a fraud because Trump barely stands for conservative values. --- Clevo P775 QHD 120hz / i7 7700k 4.5GHZ / GTX 1070 8GB / DDR4 16GB/ 256gb m.2 SSD /Magni-Modi DAC_AMP combo/ ie800. Laptop on the outside. Desktop on the inside. <cite>cerealbox760 posted [p:883370332] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>And there's a big difference between actual conservatives and Trump supporters. Any conservative worth his salt knows Trump is a fraud because Trump barely stands for conservative values.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/22/17 12:19:40 AM #195:	cjsdowg posted... Kazi1212 posted... Liberals think someone's political views defines who someone is. Conservatives understand the identity and character of a human being is much more complex than one's political ideas. It's ironic who the real tolerant people are, but can't say I'm surprised given current events such as Berkeley or Evergreen. I say this as a left leaning libertarian So I should support people who endorse Neo-Nazis to attack black people or I am intolerant. I love the idea that people like yourself seem to have.. if you don't support hate then you are really the intolerant ones. Not the people who support Neo-Nazis, banning people from some nations, ect. It didn't take long for someone to compare a Trump supporter to a Nazi, congrats --- You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen Colbert <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:883370365] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote>Liberals think someone's political views defines who someone is. Conservatives understand the identity and character of a human being is much more complex than one's political ideas. It's ironic who the real tolerant people are, but can't say I'm surprised given current events such as Berkeley or Evergreen. I say this as a left leaning libertarian</quote> So I should support people who endorse Neo-Nazis to attack black people or I am intolerant. I love the idea that people like yourself seem to have.. if you don't support hate then you are really the intolerant ones. Not the people who support Neo-Nazis, banning people from some nations, ect.</quote> It didn't take long for someone to compare a Trump supporter to a Nazi, congrats</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glass_Phantom 07/22/17 12:20:00 AM #196:	Kazi1212 posted... I say this as a left leaning libertarian If you're fiscally libertarian and you buy into conservative rhetoric about colleges, you probably aren't much of a left-leaning anything. Quite somber to see people continue to take up arms against higher education. In the 1950s, the powers-that-be poisoned people's attitudes toward universities by calling them founts of communism and Soviet-Russian infiltration. In the 1970s, they were depicted as riotous places due to the protests and civil disobedience against the Vietnam War which flourished on campuses. Now they are vilified because some of the students protest and petition against political activists they find detestable, which is well within their free speech rights to do. It seems every generation, there's a new excuse for people to bash universities -- and all to the political gain of right wing politicians, of course. The irony is that the people opposed to free speech aren't the students who petition and protest, but rather individuals like-minded to many in this topic, who would seek to infringe those rights in the name of "trampling safe spaces" or some such thing. People ought to know better. <cite>Glass_Phantom posted [p:883370376] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> I say this as a left leaning libertarian</quote> If you're fiscally libertarian and you buy into conservative rhetoric about colleges, you probably aren't much of a left-leaning anything. Quite somber to see people continue to take up arms against higher education. In the 1950s, the powers-that-be poisoned people's attitudes toward universities by calling them founts of communism and Soviet-Russian infiltration. In the 1970s, they were depicted as riotous places due to the protests and civil disobedience against the Vietnam War which flourished on campuses. Now they are vilified because some of the students protest and petition against political activists they find detestable, which is well within their free speech rights to do. It seems every generation, there's a new excuse for people to bash universities -- and all to the political gain of right wing politicians, of course. The irony is that the people opposed to free speech aren't the students who petition and protest, but rather individuals like-minded to many in this topic, who would seek to infringe those rights in the name of "trampling safe spaces" or some such thing. People ought to know better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 07/22/17 12:23:41 AM #197:	Hardly news, considering that study after study has shown that white liberals are absurdly ideologically intolerant and overly dogmatic in their beliefs compared to their minority and conservative counterparts. Of course, if liberal democrats were rational in the first place then they'd be centrist-democrats. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:883370533] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote>Hardly news, considering that study after study has shown that white liberals are absurdly ideologically intolerant and overly dogmatic in their beliefs compared to their minority and conservative counterparts. Of course, if liberal democrats were rational in the first place then they'd be centrist-democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 07/22/17 12:39:28 AM #199:	Kazi1212 posted... It didn't take long for someone to compare a Trump supporter to a Nazi, congrats I highlighted Neo-Nazis not Nazis. Next has Trump literally used Neo-Nazi lies to attack Black people, and Literally we have large groups of Neo-Nazis that support Trump, and have large rallies for him. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:883371245] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> It didn't take long for someone to compare a Trump supporter to a Nazi, congrats</quote> I highlighted Neo-Nazis not Nazis. Next has Trump literally used Neo-Nazi lies to attack Black people, and Literally we have large groups of Neo-Nazis that support Trump, and have large rallies for him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 07/22/17 12:49:00 AM #200:	cjsdowg posted... Kazi1212 posted... It didn't take long for someone to compare a Trump supporter to a Nazi, congrats I highlighted Neo-Nazis not Nazis. Next has Trump literally used Neo-Nazi lies to attack Black people, and Literally we have large groups of Neo-Nazis that support Trump, and have large rallies for him. Trump himself has denounced those people who are prone to violence. Anyone who encourages violence against others are the product of beliefs that goes deeper than just political beliefs. Political support in the context of our conversation has more to do with policy like health care or tax reform. But those who advocate for violence goes much deeper than the political, it has more to do with their personal philosophy regarding respecting the dignity of others, at least imo it does. But liberals generally conflate trump supporters who advocate violence as if it's a political belief even though Trump himself has denounced such people --- You have to be high to understand Jon Stewart, he is pinker than an Indian river grapefruit.-Stephen Colbert <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:883371652] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kazi1212 posted...</cite> <quote> It didn't take long for someone to compare a Trump supporter to a Nazi, congrats</quote> I highlighted Neo-Nazis not Nazis. Next has Trump literally used Neo-Nazi lies to attack Black people, and Literally we have large groups of Neo-Nazis that support Trump, and have large rallies for him.</quote> Trump himself has denounced those people who are prone to violence. Anyone who encourages violence against others are the product of beliefs that goes deeper than just political beliefs. Political support in the context of our conversation has more to do with policy like health care or tax reform. But those who advocate for violence goes much deeper than the political, it has more to do with their personal philosophy regarding respecting the dignity of others, at least imo it does. But liberals generally conflate trump supporters who advocate violence as if it's a political belief even though Trump himself has denounced such people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheBiggerWiggle 07/22/17 12:50:29 AM #201:	thanosibe posted... Mal_Fet posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... Mal_Fet posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person. Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes? This is some straw man shit right here. If Trump supporters are in support of literally everything Trump says, why aren't Hillary's supporters in support of literally everything Hillary has said? Tbf he can't see past his own bias so it's not surprising he's feigning ignorance. If you can't beat 'em, straw man 'em. --- I have trouble concentrating because I have 80HD. <cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted [p:883371711] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person.</quote> Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes?</quote> This is some straw man shit right here.</quote> If Trump supporters are in support of literally everything Trump says, why aren't Hillary's supporters in support of literally everything Hillary has said?</quote>Tbf he can't see past his own bias so it's not surprising he's feigning ignorance.</quote> If you can't beat 'em, straw man 'em.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 07/22/17 12:52:15 AM #202:	Zeus posted... Hardly news, considering that study after study has shown that white liberals are absurdly ideologically intolerant and overly dogmatic in their beliefs compared to their minority and conservative counterparts. Of course, if liberal democrats were rational in the first place then they'd be centrist-democrats. --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:883371787] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Hardly news, considering that study after study has shown that white liberals are absurdly ideologically intolerant and overly dogmatic in their beliefs compared to their minority and conservative counterparts. Of course, if liberal democrats were rational in the first place then they'd be centrist-democrats.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thanosibe 07/22/17 12:53:58 AM #203:	TheBiggerWiggle posted... thanosibe posted... Mal_Fet posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... Mal_Fet posted... TheBiggerWiggle posted... See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person. Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes? This is some straw man shit right here. If Trump supporters are in support of literally everything Trump says, why aren't Hillary's supporters in support of literally everything Hillary has said? Tbf he can't see past his own bias so it's not surprising he's feigning ignorance. If you can't beat 'em, straw man 'em. If you can't denounce em, deflect em. --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:883371853] in 47% of Lib... [t:75590833]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>thanosibe posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mal_Fet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheBiggerWiggle posted...</cite> <quote>See, I was just sticking with policies. I agree with everything you've said though. My post is why people hate Trump as a president. Your post is why they hate him as a person. That's why I say being pro/anti Trump goes beyond politics. If someone still supports Trump and all the nasty shit he's said they're legitimately a bad person.</quote> Hillary once called black people "superpredators". Not like "Trump at one point expressed that torture is effective but doesn't support torture as a policy so I'll just continue saying he supports torture", she really, factually said that. So you think all people who support Hillary are racist then, yes?</quote> This is some straw man shit right here.</quote> If Trump supporters are in support of literally everything Trump says, why aren't Hillary's supporters in support of literally everything Hillary has said?</quote>Tbf he can't see past his own bias so it's not surprising he's feigning ignorance.</quote> If you can't beat 'em, straw man 'em.</quote>If you can't denounce em, deflect em.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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