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Phoenix-Smasher
07/22/17 4:48:40 PM
#251:


dowolf posted...
Phoenix-Smasher posted...

I don't think that's abnormal, but that the way you're going about doing it is.

how so?

Is the FLAMING FIRE OF MY PASSION too hot for you to handle?

It's quite hot, yes.

I might just go hang out in the cooler for a bit, if ya don't mind.
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pezloco
07/22/17 4:50:09 PM
#252:


Phoenix-Smasher posted...
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...You think it is abnormal to not want your town reads to be lynched?

Though that doesn't really apply here. I simply want Plum dead. If Plum is town, we lynch Scare and Pez in that order. If Plum if scum, we figure things out from there.

I don't think that's abnormal, but that the way you're going about doing it is.


I missed this before, what's your concern with Dowolf here? I'll go back and reread too.
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pezloco
07/22/17 4:51:39 PM
#253:


Phoenix-Smasher posted...
Well, it would seem that dowolf loosened up quite a bit. Am I the only one noticing he kinda has a savior complex of sorts (at least this game)? Like, he latches on to a player and tries to do whatever he can to not get them killed.

It feels abnormal, to say the least.


Alright I found this. What are you trying to say? Are you trying to imply that Dowolf is Scum trying to earn town points? Or town trying to be a super hero?
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Phoenix-Smasher
07/22/17 4:55:17 PM
#254:


I don't think he's scum at the moment. For now I have him pegged as town who pushes his reads past their limits.
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ScareChan
07/22/17 4:58:23 PM
#255:


masterplum posted...
So scare,

So I understand, you are sure I am scum but you think the reason I was so confident was because you were roleblocked?


I am pretty sure you are godfather the way you reacted
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Sceptilesolar
07/22/17 5:04:04 PM
#256:


htaeD posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Darn. I thought Scare would probably come in claiming to have been bluffing, but it would be more interesting for him to stick to it. Honestly I think that is relatively plausible.

Pez is probably scum though. The odds that he got scanned scum as Miller are just so low. Not worth playing on that outcome.

I disagree that dowolf looks better for buying Scare. Since scum knew Scare was bluffing, they could fabricate whatever attitude they like. It is a WIFOM argument.


okay I can think of a few reasons as to how scum would know that Scare was bluffing
but why do you sound certain they knew?


How could they not? If plum isn't scum, Scare wouldn't scan him guilty.

And no, I'm not 100% confident Scare is town.

Scare, if Plum was GF, he couldn't rule out something else scanning him. Maybe if he was GF and also didn't act. There are only a few investigative roles that would work then. It sounds ambitious though to trust that.
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htaeD
07/22/17 5:06:26 PM
#257:


yeah but what if Plum IS scum?
granted, Scare bluffing might have looked more likely once KBM claimed
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pezloco
07/22/17 5:08:23 PM
#258:


Sceptilesolar posted...
htaeD posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Darn. I thought Scare would probably come in claiming to have been bluffing, but it would be more interesting for him to stick to it. Honestly I think that is relatively plausible.

Pez is probably scum though. The odds that he got scanned scum as Miller are just so low. Not worth playing on that outcome.

I disagree that dowolf looks better for buying Scare. Since scum knew Scare was bluffing, they could fabricate whatever attitude they like. It is a WIFOM argument.


okay I can think of a few reasons as to how scum would know that Scare was bluffing
but why do you sound certain they knew?


How could they not? If plum isn't scum, Scare wouldn't scan him guilty.


3rd party or aligned role
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pezloco
07/22/17 5:09:49 PM
#259:


pezloco posted...
okay I can think of a few reasons as to how scum would know that Scare was bluffing


Insane cop. Scare got bussed or some other thing that changed Scare's target. It's Mafia all things are possible.
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Sceptilesolar
07/22/17 5:10:10 PM
#260:


htaeD posted...
yeah but what if Plum IS scum?
granted, Scare bluffing might have looked more likely once KBM claimed


No one would ever claim what plum did unless they were extremely confident. The alternative is suicide. So whether plum is scum or not, scum would know Scare was bluffing.
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Sceptilesolar
07/22/17 5:11:50 PM
#261:


I acknowledge it's conceivable for Scare and plum to both tell the truth. I just don't believe it at all and I don't think scum would either.
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Sceptilesolar
07/22/17 5:21:55 PM
#262:


Also:

Plum and Scare Town: 75-80%
Plum scum, Scare Town: 10%
Both scum: 10%
Plum town, Scare scum: <5%

How I'm thinking.
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Obellisk
07/22/17 5:23:57 PM
#263:


Look, scare is scum. I would just like him to clarify a single fucking thing before we kill him.

He is ignoring every request to elaborate and as town I don't not appreciate being mislead.
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Obellisk
07/22/17 5:25:33 PM
#264:


And yes, I realize in my statement I call scare scum and then act like he's town.
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masterplum
07/22/17 5:28:36 PM
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htaeD
07/22/17 5:28:37 PM
#266:


what does he need to elaborate on?
the hypothesized roleblock?
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Obellisk
07/22/17 5:29:14 PM
#267:


masterplum posted...
We aren't killing scare today sbell.

Come on


Remains to be seen.
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dowolf
07/22/17 5:29:33 PM
#268:


Sceptilesolar posted...

And no, I'm not 100% confident Scare is town.

Odd. Your suspicion of me is predicated on it.

Also Plum didn't claim until after KBM and Loco both made their moves. Quite frankly, at that point, if Plum is scum, stonewalling is a pretty simple call. You've got decent reason to believe Scare is bluffing regardless of anything else.
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Obellisk
07/22/17 5:30:41 PM
#269:


htaeD posted...
what does he need to elaborate on?
the hypothesized roleblock?



I need to have it explained to me, lIke I'm a 4 year old.

How do you say you faked a scan yet you were roleblocked.

Why say these things and then accuse your faked scan target of godfather
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Sceptilesolar
07/22/17 5:30:57 PM
#270:


dowolf posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...

And no, I'm not 100% confident Scare is town.

Odd. Your suspicion of me is predicated on it.

Also Plum didn't claim until after KBM and Loco both made their moves. Quite frankly, at that point, if Plum is scum, stonewalling is a pretty simple call. You've got decent reason to believe Scare is bluffing regardless of anything else.


No, Scare being scum wouldn't even change things, since scum obviously would know what's going on in that case.
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dowolf
07/22/17 5:31:29 PM
#271:


I mean, we're killing Pezloco today now, barring the shenaniganiest shenanigans that ever shenaniganned.

All of my arguments for waiting were predicated on there actually being a scan on Plum. Now that there's not, like... If Pez is miller that didn't claim or hint d1, sucks to be us.
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ScareChan
07/22/17 5:35:39 PM
#272:


ScareChan posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Darn. I thought Scare would probably come in claiming to have been bluffing, but it would be more interesting for him to stick to it. Honestly I think that is relatively plausible.

Pez is probably scum though. The odds that he got scanned scum as Miller are just so low. Not worth playing on that outcome.

I disagree that dowolf looks better for buying Scare. Since scum knew Scare was bluffing, they could fabricate whatever attitude they like. It is a WIFOM argument.


I was going to ride it out but

Pez switching me to plum looks very bad

I feel like plum is godfather

If not that I may have been role blocked last night with the way people reacted to me

So there is more reasons to just let it go than ride it out


Sbell I already answered all that here
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ScareChan
07/22/17 5:36:18 PM
#273:


pezloco posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
htaeD posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Darn. I thought Scare would probably come in claiming to have been bluffing, but it would be more interesting for him to stick to it. Honestly I think that is relatively plausible.

Pez is probably scum though. The odds that he got scanned scum as Miller are just so low. Not worth playing on that outcome.

I disagree that dowolf looks better for buying Scare. Since scum knew Scare was bluffing, they could fabricate whatever attitude they like. It is a WIFOM argument.


okay I can think of a few reasons as to how scum would know that Scare was bluffing
but why do you sound certain they knew?


How could they not? If plum isn't scum, Scare wouldn't scan him guilty.


3rd party or aligned role


This is 2 days in a row the "miller" is seeking non scum svun
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ScareChan
07/22/17 5:37:39 PM
#274:


dowolf posted...
I mean, we're killing Pezloco today now, barring the shenaniganiest shenanigans that ever shenaniganned.

All of my arguments for waiting were predicated on there actually being a scan on Plum. Now that there's not, like... If Pez is miller that didn't claim or hint d1, sucks to be us.


Pez is scum or the worst town player ever. He's experienced enough to know better. He is scum
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Obellisk
07/22/17 5:38:55 PM
#275:


Scare, I hadn't read that, I understand you are assuming you must have received a roleblock based on reactions.
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pezloco
07/22/17 5:40:20 PM
#276:


ScareChan posted...
dowolf posted...
I mean, we're killing Pezloco today now, barring the shenaniganiest shenanigans that ever shenaniganned.

All of my arguments for waiting were predicated on there actually being a scan on Plum. Now that there's not, like... If Pez is miller that didn't claim or hint d1, sucks to be us.


Pez is scum or the worst town player ever. He's experienced enough to know better. He is scum


I'm pretty sure I remember people saying the same things about Oddity yesterday...
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dowolf
07/22/17 5:54:16 PM
#277:


Oddity was people making bad reads. This? Nah. Unclaimed person got scanned guilty. That happens, you kill that person, barring a really good reason. There... isn't one, not anymore.
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Lolo_Guru
07/22/17 5:58:26 PM
#278:


##unvote

This may be obvious, but please do not end the day early.
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ScareChan
07/22/17 5:59:21 PM
#279:


pezloco posted...
ScareChan posted...
dowolf posted...
I mean, we're killing Pezloco today now, barring the shenaniganiest shenanigans that ever shenaniganned.

All of my arguments for waiting were predicated on there actually being a scan on Plum. Now that there's not, like... If Pez is miller that didn't claim or hint d1, sucks to be us.


Pez is scum or the worst town player ever. He's experienced enough to know better. He is scum


I'm pretty sure I remember people saying the same things about Oddity yesterday...

Not me!
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Leafeon13N
07/22/17 6:15:51 PM
#280:


We are killing herring today, no question.
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Obellisk
07/22/17 6:19:47 PM
#281:


Leafeon13N posted...
We are killing herring today, no question.


Can we call him Pez
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masterplum
07/22/17 6:25:41 PM
#282:


Lolo_Guru posted...
##unvote

This may be obvious, but please do not end the day early.


That's it? The only comment you have?
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Leafeon13N
07/22/17 6:28:10 PM
#283:


Obellisk posted...
Leafeon13N posted...
We are killing herring today, no question.


Can we call him Pez


I've been switching back and forth in my own head. If I'm currently associating him with tom its herring, alone its pez.
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dowolf
07/22/17 6:33:51 PM
#284:


I'm just going to point out the irony here of SBell being the one to make that request.
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Lolo_Guru
07/22/17 6:41:51 PM
#285:


masterplum posted...
Lolo_Guru posted...
##unvote

This may be obvious, but please do not end the day early.


That's it? The only comment you have?

Until I'm actually free in 3 hours, yeah.
And then time to fit 96 hours of play in the next 24.
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Reg
07/22/17 6:42:39 PM
#286:


Votals as of post #285 (Lolo)

[5] pezloco - (KBM), Plum, KBM, (SBell), Phoenix, Death, Scare
[1] Plum - (Scare), (Lolo), Dowolf, (pezloco)
[1] Death - (pezloco), pezloco
[0] Scare - (KBM), (pezloco)
[0] Sceptile - (Dowolf)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends at 9:00:00 PM EDT on Sunday (About 26 hours and 15 minutes from now)
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htaeD
07/22/17 7:15:17 PM
#287:


well the topic seems to be slowing down
are we going to use the full 48 hoursd?
I presume so
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Obellisk
07/22/17 7:22:02 PM
#288:


dowolf posted...
I'm just going to point out the irony here of SBell being the one to make that request.



I'm missing it. Is it cause I just changed my name?
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dowolf
07/22/17 7:24:05 PM
#289:


Yeah pretty much.
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Obellisk
07/22/17 7:31:24 PM
#290:


htaeD posted...
well the topic seems to be slowing down
are we going to use the full 48 hoursd?
I presume so



Yeah, I'm at the cabin for the weekend, but back tomorrow with access to comp. Right now just phone, can't read back very easily. Be home afternoon Ish and hopefully get a better feel on all events.
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htaeD
07/22/17 7:32:03 PM
#291:


btw did we ever have a Bloodborne Mafia?
if not, I am calling it
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htaeD
07/22/17 7:32:19 PM
#292:


also thats good to hear, gonna hit some hay then
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Lolo_Guru
07/22/17 9:21:21 PM
#293:


Well, thank you for not ending day early.

I'm afraid there are no earth-shattering revelations to SHAKE THINGS UP from me at the moment.

That doesn't mean you have to stop talking, though! I look forward to finally reading each and every one of you for the friend or foe you are. I expect I'm going to have a lot of questions and I still have some outstanding questions I've been asked to answer, also.
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Obellisk
07/22/17 9:26:02 PM
#294:


Lolo you are worthless. Give me full alive player list town to scum with a sentence about each
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Lolo_Guru
07/22/17 9:30:03 PM
#295:


Obellisk posted...
Lolo you are worthless. Give me full alive player list town to scum with a sentence about each


Insults are not called for.
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Obellisk
07/22/17 9:43:45 PM
#296:


Lolo_Guru posted...
Obellisk posted...
Lolo you are worthless. Give me full alive player list town to scum with a sentence about each


Insults are not called for.


Not insult, insight.
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Lolo_Guru
07/22/17 10:01:36 PM
#297:


Lolo you are worthless

Insult
Lolo, your play has been worthless

blatantly obvious statement anyone in this topic could make. Neither insult nor particularly insightful.
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Obellisk
07/22/17 10:03:19 PM
#298:


Obellisk posted...
Lolo, Give me full alive player list town to scum with a sentence about each



Please?
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Sceptilesolar
07/22/17 10:08:03 PM
#299:


Stop quibbling with SBell when you promised to look through the game properly...
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Lolo_Guru
07/22/17 10:08:20 PM
#300:


Obellisk posted...
Obellisk posted...
Lolo, Give me full alive player list town to scum with a sentence about each



Please?

Your question has been noted.
It will not be answered right now.
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