Board 8 > ~~Japanese History Mafia~~ Topic 5 - I know not what life is, nor death

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Obellisk
07/26/17 7:22:36 AM
#301:


In terms of pressing any existing town power to be more forthcoming I mean.
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htaeD
07/26/17 7:26:26 AM
#302:


on one hand i would like it if I knew for certain that sceptile didnt get up
but if sceptile lied about getting up, then the prosty probably would have spoken up about it by now

the more pertinent question would be to figure if sceptile made it all up to begin with
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masterplum
07/26/17 7:43:58 AM
#303:


sceptile lying about getting up is suicide.

If he said he didn't get up we can assume he didn't get up.
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Obellisk
07/26/17 7:57:10 AM
#304:


I'm torn here. I slept on this and I'm just torn
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htaeD
07/26/17 7:59:32 AM
#305:


personally I dont like the quietness right now
like scum wants us to lynch sceptile

having phoenix (he is the last one to comment on this, right?), pitch in would help greatly
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Obellisk
07/26/17 8:14:40 AM
#306:


So if you are vanilla and you are roleblocked you don't find out. But if you are vanilla and you're slept with you find out?
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htaeD
07/26/17 8:16:51 AM
#307:


yeah thats how most prostys work

there have been 'silent' prostys in the past
but we're clearly not dealing with that here if it does exist
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Obellisk
07/26/17 8:20:29 AM
#308:


And no one is claiming prosty. So....

A) sceptile is scum and assumed he had enough information to play this gambit knowing it would be just enough to keep him alive.

B) scum had a one off prosty on their team and sceptile was slept with and is truly a town vanilla.

C) town Prosty is afraid to reveal himself unsure whether or not sceptile is actually town and while sceptile is being honest his alignment is in no way confirmed.
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Obellisk
07/26/17 8:22:24 AM
#309:


Notes on B) I say one off prosty cause no one else has claimed 'slept with' and scum isn't wasting a prosty on someone they are also killing.
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masterplum
07/26/17 9:14:32 AM
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Obellisk
07/26/17 9:22:31 AM
#311:


Why are you so willing to believe we have a prostitute?
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VeryInsane
07/26/17 9:29:04 AM
#312:


There really isn't that much need for Sceptile to lie about one, tbh

Also, I want to point out again that not everyone has checked in since Sceptile claimed.
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masterplum
07/26/17 9:32:25 AM
#313:


I don't understand why you would expect a prostitute to claim to begin with.

Why in the world would anyone go. Yup. That's me. No info
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VeryInsane
07/26/17 9:34:48 AM
#314:


masterplum posted...
I don't understand why you would expect a prostitute to claim to begin with.

Why in the world would anyone go. Yup. That's me. No info


This too, just makes them the night kill for tonight
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Obellisk
07/26/17 9:36:47 AM
#315:


VeryInsane posted...
masterplum posted...
I don't understand why you would expect a prostitute to claim to begin with.

Why in the world would anyone go. Yup. That's me. No info


This too, just makes them the night kill for tonight


I suppose this is a true statement.
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htaeD
07/26/17 9:37:09 AM
#316:


thats what I said
I just to hear if anyone else was slept with
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Obellisk
07/26/17 9:41:12 AM
#317:


Ok, I'm making an announcement. Not right now, in a little bit. I've got some work to .

I believe it's in our best interest.
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htaeD
07/26/17 9:49:29 AM
#318:


well you hooked me at least
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masterplum
07/26/17 9:52:12 AM
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dowolf
07/26/17 10:10:28 AM
#320:


Good morning~

(am waiting impatiently on SBell now I guess)
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Obellisk
07/26/17 10:37:17 AM
#321:


Now this is a story all about how
My role got blocked two nights in a row
And i'd like to take a minute
Just sit right there
I'll tell you how I became a useless Bodyguard in Japanese History Mafia

Kondo Isami, Town Bodyguard. Not bothering to give you abridged flavor, i dont know it nor do any of you, don't waste my time.

Night 1 I Bodyguarded VeryInsane. (Roleblocked)
Why VI? Well after the Oddity flip I assume Chris must be scum. And so i chose who i thought was Town and who would be a high profile player in the game. I was wrong about high profile. I was probably wrong about him being town. But honestly I dont know on him anymore.

Night 2 I Bodguarded KBM (Roleblocked)
It is at this point that I realize the scum team knows I am protection. They Roleblocked me and their targeting of KBM for a kill had absolutely no issues going through. And lets all be clear here, any Protection role that did NOT target KBM Night 2 is an asshole that is anti-town. But thats neither here nor there because I am that protection.

I am not concerned with my status in the game right now. They will either decide to kill me tonight or they will continue to Roleblock me and shoot blindly hoping to hit a possible Power that could hinder them. I do not think its foolish to reveal this information at this point int he game. I'd much rather town have this information in the event that they did decide to just take me out tonight.


JailKeeper
Cop
Bodyguard
Vanilla
Vanilla
6 ???.

Scum Team:
Assassin
Roleblocker
???
???
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Sceptilesolar
07/26/17 10:40:33 AM
#322:


Fair enough. At least, assuming you are telling the truth, and I believe you are, this confirms my argument that at least two of the remaining scum took night actions last night.
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Obellisk
07/26/17 10:46:01 AM
#323:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Fair enough. At least, assuming you are telling the truth, and I believe you are, this confirms my argument that at least two of the remaining scum took night actions last night.


Why did you believe this before my reveal
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Sceptilesolar
07/26/17 10:48:35 AM
#324:


Obellisk posted...
Sceptilesolar posted...
Fair enough. At least, assuming you are telling the truth, and I believe you are, this confirms my argument that at least two of the remaining scum took night actions last night.


Why did you believe this before my reveal


Just assumed an RB would exist. Now it is confirmed to exist.
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masterplum
07/26/17 10:48:41 AM
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dowolf
07/26/17 10:49:24 AM
#326:


masterplum posted...
Hmm

How would they know you were power?

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VeryInsane
07/26/17 10:49:36 AM
#327:


Why did you think I was Town Night One?

Bodyguard and Jailkeeper makes sense as a combo but I'm just curious
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Obellisk
07/26/17 10:52:38 AM
#328:


masterplum posted...
Hmm

How would they know you were power?


No idea.

When I found out I was role blocked n1 I was pisssssssed.

Then when I was roleblocked n2... no words.

But having roleblocked me twice and had no issues getting kills off. There is no way they weren't going to continue down this path.
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Obellisk
07/26/17 10:53:57 AM
#329:


VeryInsane posted...
Why did you think I was Town Night One?

Bodyguard and Jailkeeper makes sense as a combo but I'm just curious



There must have been a reason , I could pretend I remember and go read back day 1 but I dont. However if I was going to save a power player in a mafia game that is likely to get killed night 1. Olyoud make the list
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Obellisk
07/26/17 10:55:09 AM
#330:


Day 1 I made a comment to Chris when he was accusing me of scum that that wouldn't benefit him in the future. It was a joke. I really wasn't breadcrumbing. It may have been my undoing
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htaeD
07/26/17 10:57:11 AM
#331:


hmm
immediate reaction is to buy this
also I can sympathize, having been roleblocked into hell in feast for crows mafia and was forced to reveal my lack of info before I could do anything about it

let me check real quick
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masterplum
07/26/17 10:57:41 AM
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Obellisk
07/26/17 10:59:59 AM
#333:


A. If we lynch scept and he's town and then I happen to die. You don't know there is a roleblocker out there.

B. If we are going to believe a prosty in the game based on no protection and high scanning powers, we'll hi. I'm protection, let's reevaluate.

C. I've been rendered useless and scum knows they have the upper hand. My secret isn't important anymore.
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htaeD
07/26/17 11:01:16 AM
#334:


Oh..
I assume this is why you were questioning Plum for his "I was probably roleblocked' comment?
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htaeD
07/26/17 11:02:33 AM
#335:


(and your earlier questions about whether or not plum was claiming power)
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Obellisk
07/26/17 11:02:37 AM
#336:


htaeD posted...
Oh..
I assume this is why you were questioning Plum for his "I was probably roleblocked' comment?


Ding.
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greengravy294
07/26/17 11:05:20 AM
#337:


htaeD posted...
jesus this activity
still not fully comfortable with a sceptile lynch still, gravy seems to have parked his vote on me without engaging me and scare's involvement has gone from bad to worse
also I am surprised Phoenix didnt post at all after everything he promised

To be fair there isn't much else to say. Its a gut vote more or less there isn't much to actually justify here.
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greengravy294
07/26/17 11:07:55 AM
#338:


Two blind roleblocks on Sbell... is worrisome, but I had a mild townish read on him prior so I feel pretty :arti: here I guess.

=|
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VeryInsane
07/26/17 11:08:30 AM
#339:


Obellisk posted...
A. If we lynch scept and he's town and then I happen to die. You don't know there is a roleblocker out there.

B. If we are going to believe a prosty in the game based on no protection and high scanning powers, we'll hi. I'm protection, let's reevaluate.

C. I've been rendered useless and scum knows they have the upper hand. My secret isn't important anymore.


B's logic here is extremely iffy given there isn't a whole lot of power claimed. Only 3. Plenty of room for a secondary scanner like a prosty
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htaeD
07/26/17 11:09:17 AM
#340:


well thats annoying

but not as annoying as Phoenix' vote I suppose

but hey Gravy, forget the rest of the game (I am not sure how much you have read so far)
whats your take on this page alone?
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htaeD
07/26/17 11:10:14 AM
#341:


rarely see games with just 1 scanner, thats for sure
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Sceptilesolar
07/26/17 11:10:17 AM
#342:


I think I still want a mass claim, even more now really. Also, the advantage of doing a mass claim now is that we're not at MyLo yet. If there's one more mislynch, then suddenly the mass claim becomes less effective. There's no penalty for scum lying at MyLo since if it works they win immediately. So it makes sense to do it now while we have a little bit of room to maneuver.
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htaeD
07/26/17 11:13:29 AM
#343:


it makes sense to massclaim before the prosty (if there is one) takes another target

but I dont know if scum cant simply outplay us with a kill and a RB if they know who is who
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htaeD
07/26/17 11:14:34 AM
#344:


though at the very least, sceptile asking for one makes me think there has to be a prosty out there
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Obellisk
07/26/17 11:17:41 AM
#345:


No, a mass claim is going to render me useless as we watch all other power get picked off one by one.
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Sceptilesolar
07/26/17 11:19:30 AM
#346:


htaeD posted...
it makes sense to massclaim before the prosty (if there is one) takes another target

but I dont know if scum cant simply outplay us with a kill and a RB if they know who is who


That is the risk, certainly. Maybe if prosty stays unclaimed, they'll get away with a successful scan tonight. It becomes problematic if Town is lynched today though. A scum prosty then could claim a damning scan on town and there'd be no way to tell.
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htaeD
07/26/17 11:25:43 AM
#347:


btw

@Phoenix-Smasher

as I guessed before, only one to not comment on this yet
has been online today as far as timestamps go, but since you cant rely on timestamps, Ill yell at him instead
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dowolf
07/26/17 11:28:42 AM
#348:


Hmm...

I kinda want to pressure Red, and can't think of any good reason why not.

##Unvote;
##Vote: Red

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Obellisk
07/26/17 11:31:26 AM
#349:


I hate to say I might be wrong on scept.

I guess we kill phoenix?
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htaeD
07/26/17 11:36:03 AM
#350:


eh reds at least been here from time to time
I think pressure should go to Scare first
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