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NFUN 07/27/17 12:25:33 AM #201: |
Kenri posted...
Wanglicious posted...about 40% of trans people try to commit suicide and 40-50% have issues with depression, anxiety, or both. that's both MtF and FtM. from that aspect alone, would military reject people based on those figures or would they ask for more data and have more scrutiny on any trans applicant? basically is this stat alone something that would make recruiters balk or would they still listen? No, gender dysmorphia can cause a lot of anguish independently of other people. Society's views certainly don't help, but they aren't the sole cause of issues. --- Thus is our treaty written, thus is our agreement made. Thought is the arrow of time; memory never fades. What was asked is given; the price is paid. ARF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kenri 07/27/17 12:26:27 AM #202: |
NFUN posted...
No, gender dysmorphia can cause a lot of anguish independently of other people. Society's views certainly don't help, but they aren't the sole cause of issues. Gender dysphoria is not an inherent part of being trans either but yes related mental illnesses can indeed cause issues. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 07/27/17 12:36:06 AM #203: |
https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/890310152124907520
Attack ads on Heller for these health care votes are already in the can --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BowserCuffs 07/27/17 12:58:17 AM #204: |
Generally speaking, people who are rejected or perceive that they're being rejected by society because of X reason are likely to develop depression.
And having depression increases the risk of suicide. Also, being unhappy with your body, being forced to be one thing when you're another, being kicked out of a group because your brain and your body disagree on what gender you are, these all cause mental and emotional distress, as well. Being trans does not inherently mean being depressed. Being rejected or denied support because of being trans, however, makes it almost guaranteed that you'd become depressed. Just like being rejected or denied because you're gay, or you're feminine (if male) or masculine (if female), or you're doing poorly in school, or... etc. What I'm saying is, if anyone commits suicide because of this, that's adding more blood to Trump's hands. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 07/27/17 1:01:53 AM #205: |
Kenri posted...
Wanglicious posted...about 40% of trans people try to commit suicide and 40-50% have issues with depression, anxiety, or both. that's both MtF and FtM. from that aspect alone, would military reject people based on those figures or would they ask for more data and have more scrutiny on any trans applicant? basically is this stat alone something that would make recruiters balk or would they still listen? "We keep pushing trans people out of participating in society and they keep getting all depressed about it! What's the deal?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark Young Link 07/27/17 1:02:02 AM #206: |
And if someone takes their life because of all of that, the same people who tormented the person cry crocodile tears and go "If only we KNEW!"
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LordoftheMorons 07/27/17 1:18:28 AM #207: |
https://www.adn.com/politics/2017/07/26/trump-administration-signals-that-murkowskis-health-care-vote-could-have-energy-repercussions-for-alaska/
What the fuck This. is. not. okay. --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 07/27/17 1:24:02 AM #208: |
Lisa Murkowski is honestly almost doing enough to give me a glimmer of hope for the republican party
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Dark Young Link 07/27/17 1:31:05 AM #209: |
Bend your knee or be ruined, is it?
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TheRock1525 07/27/17 1:31:40 AM #210: |
Kenri posted...
NFUN posted...No, gender dysmorphia can cause a lot of anguish independently of other people. Society's views certainly don't help, but they aren't the sole cause of issues. I mean, mental illness is present in cisgendered people as well. If both groups have these problems, why is one more likely to commit suicide than the other? Maybe societal pressures. It's like looking at the fact that transgendered people are murdered at a much higher rate than cisgendered people and going "well, I guess biologically they're more likely to get murdered." --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kenri 07/27/17 2:18:15 AM #211: |
TheRock1525 posted...
I mean, mental illness is present in cisgendered people as well. If both groups have these problems, why is one more likely to commit suicide than the other? Maybe societal pressures. Yup. Not to mention that societal forces can cause/worsen mental illness in the first place. Edit: I somehow missed Bowser's post where he said effectively this but more elegantly -- whoops! --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PostCrisisJ2 07/27/17 2:22:07 AM #212: |
Does anybody here know if refinery29 is trustworthy?
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LordoftheMorons 07/27/17 7:01:29 AM #213: |
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/890524387773997056
...Does Trump think it was supposed to be a compliment? The implication, of course, is that it's powerful because Trump is dumb enough to base his policy off of things said by the stupidest people on Fox News --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nelson_Mandela 07/27/17 8:01:58 AM #214: |
Lol literally reading people who are comparing Trump's trans ban to the Holocaust.
Do these people not realize that he's reverting to a policy that was in place one year ago? --- "Seph's kind of right."~ Jakyl25 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Peace___Frog 07/27/17 8:10:57 AM #215: |
Nelson_Mandela posted...
Do these people not realize that he's reverting to a policy that was in place one year ago? The issue is that when that policy was ended, many trans soldiers felt safe to out themselves and are now being punished for following past policy. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seginustemple 07/27/17 8:12:19 AM #216: |
TheRock1525 posted...
looking at the fact that transgendered people are murdered at a much higher rate than cisgendered people Is there a source for this? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 07/27/17 8:31:54 AM #217: |
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/890533442135502849
is he literally begging republican senators for help via twitter? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 07/27/17 9:35:08 AM #218: |
Not even technically on the job and The Mooch is already losing it.
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Dancedreamer 07/27/17 10:05:19 AM #219: |
TheRock1525 posted...
It's like looking at the fact that transgendered people are murdered at a much higher rate than cisgendered people and going "well, I guess biologically they're more likely to get murdered." I imagine that's because people often get light sentences for the murder of transgendered people. I still remember the man who got probation for murdering his trans girlfriend. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 07/27/17 10:06:22 AM #220: |
guys, no "-ed' at the end of transgender
it's just "transgender" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HaRRicH 07/27/17 10:12:43 AM #221: |
I got to thinking about the Chelsea Manning-comment Wang had yesterday about this tran-ban possibly being revenge against her (and Obama's pardon for her)...then I came across this from six months ago.
https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/824595118955069441 14 minutes apart: Fox says "ungrateful traitor," Trump says "ungrateful traitor," Fox says "weak leader," Trump says "weak leader." https://t.co/f7urTOUG1L Not sure how directly connected they are, but it checks out so far. --- Brought to you by GameFlux Free GameFAQs app on Google Play! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 07/27/17 10:16:27 AM #222: |
It's well known that Trump just parrots what he sees on TV.
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FFDragon 07/27/17 10:21:28 AM #223: |
And the Mooch just parrots what Trump says.
It's like an even more unsettling human centipede. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 07/27/17 10:40:02 AM #224: |
trump's said quite a bit more about manning before and all of it is pretty much in the same style. you just need to ask which do you think is more likely: Trump is relaying info after talking to high level generals, security councils, etc or Trump is trying to strongarm them by speaking up first, forcing decisions, and being incredibly petty against someone who leaked info he doesn't like?
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Peace___Frog 07/27/17 11:15:46 AM #225: |
Easily the second
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Peace___Frog 07/27/17 11:29:03 AM #226: |
Hey, guess what happened last night? Tell me again how great this administration is for the LGBT community.
https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/890350260551340039 BREAKING: Sessions' DOJ says that gay people aren't protected from discrimination under Title VII. https://t.co/9sJPQFGuN5 by @dominicholden https://t.co/o1VJDsUhpM Basically, they submitted an amicus brief that argues that discriminating against employees over their sexual orientation is acceptable. --- ~Peaf~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 07/27/17 11:29:06 AM #227: |
Wanglicious posted...
trump's said quite a bit more about manning before and all of it is pretty much in the same style. you just need to ask which do you think is more likely: Trump is relaying info after talking to high level generals, security councils, etc or Trump is trying to strongarm them by speaking up first, forcing decisions, and being incredibly petty against someone who leaked info he doesn't like? If Trump actually talked to his generals, this whole thing about transgender banning would be less of a clusterfuck. So we know THAT'S not a thing. --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Regaro 07/27/17 11:38:10 AM #228: |
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/26/skinny-obamacare-repeal-may-leave-16-million-more-uninsured-cbo-estimates.html
So-called "skinny repeal" will leave 16 million without insurance, and premiums up 20% next year. I'd love to hear from the selfish, greedy assholes how voting Trump is better for their bank accounts. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 07/27/17 11:42:00 AM #229: |
Peace___Frog posted...
Hey, guess what happened last night? Tell me again how great this administration is for the LGBT community. Trump then fires Sessions and is like "Why are liberals mad? They hated him!" --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Not_an_Owl 07/27/17 1:23:06 PM #230: |
Joint Chiefs: Actually, We're Cool with Trans Troops
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/27/trump-transgender-military-ban-no-modification-241029?cmpid=sf --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 07/27/17 1:24:31 PM #231: |
I mean, that's not necessarily true, they just aren't taking a order that Trump wrote on twitter without anything formal.
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FFDragon 07/27/17 1:25:18 PM #232: |
still the fact that he'd go on twitter about something without at least having something real in motion is lol
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FFDragon 07/27/17 1:29:33 PM #233: |
https://thinkprogress.org/scaramucci-cnn-meltdown-39c64badff56
I know this was brought up a little bit, but he even melts down like a mini-Trump. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dowolf 07/27/17 1:29:46 PM #234: |
I mean, firing Sessions and then the Republican senate being so pissed that they refuse to even consider whoever Trump nominates is literally the best case scenario, so...
What I'm saying is, the left really needs to be quiet about their anger so the Republicans don't have a knee-jerk reaction to oppose them. Who's playing 4D chess now, Trump? --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NFUN 07/27/17 1:30:27 PM #235: |
FFDragon posted...
still the fact that he'd go on twitter about something without at least having something real in motion is Trump's SOP --- Thus is our treaty written, thus is our agreement made. Thought is the arrow of time; memory never fades. What was asked is given; the price is paid. ARF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 07/27/17 1:30:50 PM #236: |
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dowolf 07/27/17 1:31:08 PM #237: |
FFDragon posted...
https://thinkprogress.org/scaramucci-cnn-meltdown-39c64badff56 I'm starting to understand how this was Spicy's last straw. --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 07/27/17 1:34:01 PM #238: |
Yeah Spicy definitely made the right call here.
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red sox 777 07/27/17 1:36:56 PM #239: |
dowolf posted...
I mean, firing Sessions and then the Republican senate being so pissed that they refuse to even consider whoever Trump nominates is literally the best case scenario, so... While that would be effective, I think the left is literally incapable of being quiet when faced with a situation like this. They just have to grab the cookie. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 07/27/17 1:51:22 PM #240: |
like the republicans wouldn't always oppose the left anyway.
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LapisLazuli 07/27/17 1:55:33 PM #241: |
red sox 777 posted...
dowolf posted...I mean, firing Sessions and then the Republican senate being so pissed that they refuse to even consider whoever Trump nominates is literally the best case scenario, so... Yeah, how dare the left have morals. Should be more like conservatives. --- **** Netflix ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SupremeZero 07/27/17 2:00:24 PM #242: |
https://twitter.com/MarcGoldwein/status/890396857129725952
*cough* --- There's always hope for better things in life. But you can't let anything, friend, lover,God himself,be your hope. You have to be your own hope ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BowserCuffs 07/27/17 3:38:03 PM #243: |
So Trump attempts to kick trans people out of the military for being trans and now employers should be allowed to fire or refuse to hire people simply because they're gay.
Yeah, okay. Fuck the Republican party and every centrist and liberal who thought Hillary would be just as bad or worse. You were wrong and we're all paying for your wrongness. --- Everyone's best is different. You can't always be the best, but you can always do your best. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 07/27/17 3:39:31 PM #244: |
"okay"
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SgtSphynx 07/27/17 3:42:15 PM #245: |
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/department-of-energy-risks-michael-lewis
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LordoftheMorons 07/27/17 3:47:29 PM #246: |
Healthcare news!
Good: state waivers are not Byrd-compliant! https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/890610908535242752 (Quite possibly) bad (increases probability something passes): it sounds like Paul Ryan might be planning to just pass skinny repeal as-is if it gets through the Senate. Of course, many senators appear to be considering voting for skinny repeal just so it can go to conference, but if the House doesn't make any changes the Senate doesn't get to vote again and has to totally own their vote on a piece of legislation they knew was terrible. Just wtf: Senators are writing skinny repeal over fucking lunch: https://twitter.com/AmandaBecker/status/890567841300328449 --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 07/27/17 3:48:55 PM #247: |
Wanglicious posted...
trump's said quite a bit more about manning before and all of it is pretty much in the same style. you just need to ask which do you think is more likely: Trump is relaying info after talking to high level generals, security councils, etc or Trump is trying to strongarm them by speaking up first, forcing decisions, and being incredibly petty against someone who leaked info he doesn't like? Considering the Pentagon said there's no plan at the moment to rescind the transgender policy, the second? --- Phantom Dust. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 07/27/17 4:12:07 PM #248: |
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/890660114088116225
Fuck --- Congrats to BKSheikah for winning the BYIG Guru Challenge! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jakyl25 07/27/17 4:48:45 PM #249: |
How do you "make progress" with the Senate Parliamentarian?
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Jakyl25 07/27/17 4:50:34 PM #250: |
The Mana Sword posted...
I mean, that's not necessarily true, they just aren't taking a order that Trump wrote on twitter without anything formal. Hey, even Seph said that it would be bad if Trump made that announcement without consulting the chiefs of staff --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large ... Copied to Clipboard!
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