Board 8 > Japanese History Mafia Topic 7 - I would have mourned my loss of life

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pezloco 08/04/17 7:35:04 PM #301:	Obellisk posted... Town mvp.... or something. Dowolf is a shit. Great game death. What was the RB story? Dumb luck that kept working? As earlier mentioned, we continued to RB you because of your reaction to Scare. You wanted him to explain the RB super clearly. It obvious to us you knew you were RBed. So we kept RBing you. But no you're not the town MVP. In fact this above was one of your many misplays as town. Your reads were correct, although occasionally for the wrong reasons. But your play as town was pretty bad. First it doesn't make sense for Scare to fake being RBed as scum. But even if you think you have him caught in a lie, you revealed you were power by focusing on the RB part. And worse you did it by giving us more info and not giving any to town. Farther, your too early confidence that Scept was cleared (which he shared) and your arrogance at the end of the game didn't let anyone follow you. Specifically in the end game, instead of acting like you were confirmed with your RB claim, there were plausible ways you could've been faking. In fact acknowledging these and pointing out the flaws of those arguments would've been really nice. But you might've lost everyone when you had the idea to kill scept who was confirmed after VI's death. No, the MVP was Plum. masterplum posted... I am still puzzling over the Tom kill Makes me think both Pez is scum and death and Red are scum Such an odd kill This was right on. But more than just that, he soft claimed very well and it's too bad that Phoenix missed it. When he asked Phoenix those questions, I thought maybe Plum was Prosty and bread crumbing it. Then when Scept talked about being slept with and no one claimed prosty. It could've easily been Plum. Plum of course knew it was Phoenix. And he didn't point it out. Phoenix had no need to claim. We would've had to debate between Phoenix and Plum. We were pretty sure that it was Phoenix based Phoenix's response to Plum's question. But that was somewhat in doubt because we didn't think Plum was scanner. We thought he was either Prosty or slept with. But being slept with didn't quite make sense because Plum said he would've slept with KBM N1. So how did Plum know? We never answered that question because Phoenix answered who was Prosty. This wasn't the only good thing Plum did. I actually wanted to kill him earlier because he was the most competent town. There just wasn't an earlier opportunity except N1 and he wasn't the threat then. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884197114] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote>Town mvp.... or something. Dowolf is a shit. Great game death. What was the RB story? Dumb luck that kept working?</quote> As earlier mentioned, we continued to RB you because of your reaction to Scare. You wanted him to explain the RB super clearly. It obvious to us you knew you were RBed. So we kept RBing you. But no you're not the town MVP. In fact this above was one of your many misplays as town. Your reads were correct, although occasionally for the wrong reasons. But your play as town was pretty bad. First it doesn't make sense for Scare to fake being RBed as scum. But even if you think you have him caught in a lie, you revealed you were power by focusing on the RB part. And worse you did it by giving us more info and not giving any to town. Farther, your too early confidence that Scept was cleared (which he shared) and your arrogance at the end of the game didn't let anyone follow you. Specifically in the end game, instead of acting like you were confirmed with your RB claim, there were plausible ways you could've been faking. In fact acknowledging these and pointing out the flaws of those arguments would've been really nice. But you might've lost everyone when you had the idea to kill scept who was confirmed after VI's death. No, the MVP was Plum. <cite>masterplum posted...</cite> <quote>I am still puzzling over the Tom kill Makes me think both Pez is scum and death and Red are scum Such an odd kill</quote> This was right on. But more than just that, he soft claimed very well and it's too bad that Phoenix missed it. When he asked Phoenix those questions, I thought maybe Plum was Prosty and bread crumbing it. Then when Scept talked about being slept with and no one claimed prosty. It could've easily been Plum. Plum of course knew it was Phoenix. And he didn't point it out. Phoenix had no need to claim. We would've had to debate between Phoenix and Plum. We were pretty sure that it was Phoenix based Phoenix's response to Plum's question. But that was somewhat in doubt because we didn't think Plum was scanner. We thought he was either Prosty or slept with. But being slept with didn't quite make sense because Plum said he would've slept with KBM N1. So how did Plum know? We never answered that question because Phoenix answered who was Prosty. This wasn't the only good thing Plum did. I actually wanted to kill him earlier because he was the most competent town. There just wasn't an earlier opportunity except N1 and he wasn't the threat then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezloco 08/04/17 7:38:06 PM #302:	dowolf posted... nah, no killing was never the correct play. but w/e. scum made bad plays, got rewarded. It happens. I stopped caring about this game a week ago, so... In hindsight, yeah you're right. But we didn't like how easily any lynch could have occurred with just 3. But yeah the best plan would've been to take advantage of Death's time difference. Kill Gravy and let you vote SBell. Death's time difference would allow him to hammer possibly. But you were fairly competent most of the game. You were wrong sometimes, but hardly ever on the wrong lynch end of day. We thought with how messed up town had been all game we'd NK and let town implode. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884197274] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>dowolf posted...</cite> <quote>nah, no killing was never the correct play. but w/e. scum made bad plays, got rewarded. It happens. I stopped caring about this game a week ago, so...</quote> In hindsight, yeah you're right. But we didn't like how easily any lynch could have occurred with just 3. But yeah the best plan would've been to take advantage of Death's time difference. Kill Gravy and let you vote SBell. Death's time difference would allow him to hammer possibly. But you were fairly competent most of the game. You were wrong sometimes, but hardly ever on the wrong lynch end of day. We thought with how messed up town had been all game we'd NK and let town implode.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/04/17 7:41:48 PM #303:	Well played... Death ups his game yet again. I thought it was Gravy so I would've been fucked. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884197435] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Well played... Death ups his game yet again. I thought it was Gravy so I would've been fucked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 08/04/17 7:45:47 PM #304:	If scum didn't know I was protection after a second roleblock and killing kbm then they were foolish. I didn't claim too early. I don't see the arrogance you speak of though pez. I was literally the only one still playing the game (other than death) --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:884197629] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>If scum didn't know I was protection after a second roleblock and killing kbm then they were foolish. I didn't claim too early. I don't see the arrogance you speak of though pez. I was literally the only one still playing the game (other than death)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezloco 08/04/17 7:46:46 PM #305:	Obellisk posted... After you blocked me night 2 and got the kill of on kbm, we're you fully aware of your dumb luck? No, we thought you were BG or Jack. We knew N2 when we blocked you that you were power. @dowolf Part of why blocking and killing KBM wasn't as bad as you think it was is because we knew SBell was power. So, we knew that the percentages were tipped toward us. SBell could've been the second protection or the second scanner. If he's a scanner, we prevent him getting information instead of KBM. If he's protection we block him and KBM dies. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884197682] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote>After you blocked me night 2 and got the kill of on kbm, we're you fully aware of your dumb luck?</quote> No, we thought you were BG or Jack. We knew N2 when we blocked you that you were power. @dowolf Part of why blocking and killing KBM wasn't as bad as you think it was is because we knew SBell was power. So, we knew that the percentages were tipped toward us. SBell could've been the second protection or the second scanner. If he's a scanner, we prevent him getting information instead of KBM. If he's protection we block him and KBM dies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oddity 08/04/17 7:48:39 PM #306:	Didn't read most of the game after I died. But damn, Death's scum game is much better than I thought. Pez just fooled me. In the beginning of day 2 I knew VI was scum because he made a post that argued activity as opposed to scumminess. Also thought red and moltar were scummy beginning of day 2, but that was partially based off the fact that I thought pez was town. Not going to ignore roommate powers anymore :P I have to apologize to KBM because when I went back and reread, she actually did post significant content on the first page of the third topic. Guess which page I didn't read because I was under heavy fire from town? Most of your content before that was very fluffy and lurky so that's why I was pretty harsh in my statements regarding you during my meltdown. So I'm sorry. --- His mind finally snapped and his rage boiled over. Like a slavering beast it consumed him destroying reason. He gazed upon the innocent, and they knew pain. <cite>Oddity posted [p:884197774] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Didn't read most of the game after I died. But damn, Death's scum game is much better than I thought. Pez just fooled me. In the beginning of day 2 I knew VI was scum because he made a post that argued activity as opposed to scumminess. Also thought red and moltar were scummy beginning of day 2, but that was partially based off the fact that I thought pez was town. Not going to ignore roommate powers anymore :P I have to apologize to KBM because when I went back and reread, she actually did post significant content on the first page of the third topic. Guess which page I didn't read because I was under heavy fire from town? Most of your content before that was very fluffy and lurky so that's why I was pretty harsh in my statements regarding you during my meltdown. So I'm sorry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dowolf 08/04/17 7:50:02 PM #307:	pezloco posted... Obellisk posted... After you blocked me night 2 and got the kill of on kbm, we're you fully aware of your dumb luck? No, we thought you were BG or Jack. We knew N2 when we blocked you that you were power. @dowolf Part of why blocking and killing KBM wasn't as bad as you think it was is because we knew SBell was power. So, we knew that the percentages were tipped toward us. SBell could've been the second protection or the second scanner. If he's a scanner, we prevent him getting information instead of KBM. If he's protection we block him and KBM dies. Even in that case, I would argue shooting SBell and blocking KBM would've been the better play. You couldn't have been 100% certain SBell was power, after all, no matter how strong your read was. But I digress. --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius <cite>dowolf posted [p:884197835] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>pezloco posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote>After you blocked me night 2 and got the kill of on kbm, we're you fully aware of your dumb luck?</quote> No, we thought you were BG or Jack. We knew N2 when we blocked you that you were power. @dowolf Part of why blocking and killing KBM wasn't as bad as you think it was is because we knew SBell was power. So, we knew that the percentages were tipped toward us. SBell could've been the second protection or the second scanner. If he's a scanner, we prevent him getting information instead of KBM. If he's protection we block him and KBM dies.</quote> Even in that case, I would argue shooting SBell and blocking KBM would've been the better play. You couldn't have been 100% certain SBell was power, after all, no matter how strong your read was. But I digress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 08/04/17 7:50:49 PM #308:	maybe my scumgame tends to be better if I just came down from a towngame --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:884197871] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>maybe my scumgame tends to be better if I just came down from a towngame</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 08/04/17 7:51:52 PM #309:	also I am of the mind that you dont keep townpower alive when you dont need to, so I would have wanted to kill KBM even if we did roleblock her --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:884197916] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>also I am of the mind that you dont keep townpower alive when you dont need to, so I would have wanted to kill KBM even if we did roleblock her</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
htaeD 08/04/17 7:54:09 PM #310:	also also I half-apologize for turning you into the first lynch, Oddity --- 3DS FC: 3437-4283-5849 IGN: Alice <cite>htaeD posted [p:884198023] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>also also I half-apologize for turning you into the first lynch, Oddity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Oddity 08/04/17 7:55:46 PM #311:	nah man. It was a good move. That's why I was saying, if you were scum it was a very good capitalization on town weakness. --- His mind finally snapped and his rage boiled over. Like a slavering beast it consumed him destroying reason. He gazed upon the innocent, and they knew pain. <cite>Oddity posted [p:884198095] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>nah man. It was a good move. That's why I was saying, if you were scum it was a very good capitalization on town weakness.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dowolf 08/04/17 7:56:09 PM #312:	htaeD posted... also I am of the mind that you dont keep townpower alive when you dont need to, so I would have wanted to kill KBM even if we did roleblock her If you're 100% certain SBell is power, that's irrelevant! --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius <cite>dowolf posted [p:884198110] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote>also I am of the mind that you dont keep townpower alive when you dont need to, so I would have wanted to kill KBM even if we did roleblock her</quote> If you're 100% certain SBell is power, that's irrelevant!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero11 08/04/17 8:28:08 PM #313:	dowolf posted... Town's wincon is to eliminate all threats to town. If scum doesn't shoot, they're not a threat to town. You don't like that, change town's wincon. um no because they can still shoot if they want. That's like saying a guy driving drunk isn't a threat to other drivers if he hasn't hit anyone yet --- MZero, to the extreme "2017 Guru champ BKSheikah is racist against cute Pokemon." - Luster <cite>MZero11 posted [p:884199564] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>dowolf posted...</cite> <quote>Town's wincon is to eliminate all threats to town. If scum doesn't shoot, they're not a threat to town. You don't like that, change town's wincon.</quote> um no because they can still shoot if they want. That's like saying a guy driving drunk isn't a threat to other drivers if he hasn't hit anyone yet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezloco 08/04/17 8:31:58 PM #314:	Obellisk posted... If scum didn't know I was protection after a second roleblock and killing kbm then they were foolish. I didn't claim too early. I don't see the arrogance you speak of though pez. I was literally the only one still playing the game (other than death) I kind of think this quote shows it. But maybe it just sounds that way because it's online. Maybe it was just the way it came across to me. There was a time when you were arguing Scept as confirmed town when he wasn't quite confirmed. Then your actions with 6 left and 4 left (the first NL) came across as I'm the only one who's been right. Another way I'd describe it is being unable or unwilling to understand the other person's argument. Maybe you could replace the word understand with interact with. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884199702] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote>If scum didn't know I was protection after a second roleblock and killing kbm then they were foolish. I didn't claim too early. I don't see the arrogance you speak of though pez. I was literally the only one still playing the game (other than death)</quote> I kind of think this quote shows it. But maybe it just sounds that way because it's online. Maybe it was just the way it came across to me. There was a time when you were arguing Scept as confirmed town when he wasn't quite confirmed. Then your actions with 6 left and 4 left (the first NL) came across as I'm the only one who's been right. Another way I'd describe it is being unable or unwilling to understand the other person's argument. Maybe you could replace the word understand with interact with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 08/04/17 8:35:42 PM #315:	dowolf posted... htaeD posted... also I assume the townpower overload was a meta trap for town Mzero can comment on that when he gets back but eesh, if we hadnt blocked Sbell or killed the Jailkeeper night1 (also a random shot) things would have gone bad quickly nobody on our team (besides me I guess?), could escape scrutiny What was it, d3 or so when I straight-up said "Death, are you scum?" I wish I'd followed up on that more. I put too much stock in Plum's assurances that there just happened to be no scum on Oddity, I think. I never said anything close to this --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:884199875] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>dowolf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote>also I assume the townpower overload was a meta trap for town Mzero can comment on that when he gets back but eesh, if we hadnt blocked Sbell or killed the Jailkeeper night1 (also a random shot) things would have gone bad quickly nobody on our team (besides me I guess?), could escape scrutiny</quote> What was it, d3 or so when I straight-up said "Death, are you scum?" I wish I'd followed up on that more. I put too much stock in Plum's assurances that there just happened to be no scum on Oddity, I think.</quote> I never said anything close to this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 08/04/17 8:36:54 PM #316:	Obellisk posted... My only mess up was bodyguarding VI night one, but even then, I was roleblocked. How about claiming power for no reason whatsoever? --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:884199930] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote>My only mess up was bodyguarding VI night one, but even then, I was roleblocked.</quote> How about claiming power for no reason whatsoever?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 08/04/17 8:40:07 PM #317:	pezloco posted... Obellisk posted... Town mvp.... or something. Dowolf is a shit. Great game death. What was the RB story? Dumb luck that kept working? As earlier mentioned, we continued to RB you because of your reaction to Scare. You wanted him to explain the RB super clearly. It obvious to us you knew you were RBed. So we kept RBing you. But no you're not the town MVP. In fact this above was one of your many misplays as town. Your reads were correct, although occasionally for the wrong reasons. But your play as town was pretty bad. First it doesn't make sense for Scare to fake being RBed as scum. But even if you think you have him caught in a lie, you revealed you were power by focusing on the RB part. And worse you did it by giving us more info and not giving any to town. Farther, your too early confidence that Scept was cleared (which he shared) and your arrogance at the end of the game didn't let anyone follow you. Specifically in the end game, instead of acting like you were confirmed with your RB claim, there were plausible ways you could've been faking. In fact acknowledging these and pointing out the flaws of those arguments would've been really nice. But you might've lost everyone when you had the idea to kill scept who was confirmed after VI's death. No, the MVP was Plum. masterplum posted... I am still puzzling over the Tom kill Makes me think both Pez is scum and death and Red are scum Such an odd kill This was right on. But more than just that, he soft claimed very well and it's too bad that Phoenix missed it. When he asked Phoenix those questions, I thought maybe Plum was Prosty and bread crumbing it. Then when Scept talked about being slept with and no one claimed prosty. It could've easily been Plum. Plum of course knew it was Phoenix. And he didn't point it out. Phoenix had no need to claim. We would've had to debate between Phoenix and Plum. We were pretty sure that it was Phoenix based Phoenix's response to Plum's question. But that was somewhat in doubt because we didn't think Plum was scanner. We thought he was either Prosty or slept with. But being slept with didn't quite make sense because Plum said he would've slept with KBM N1. So how did Plum know? We never answered that question because Phoenix answered who was Prosty. This wasn't the only good thing Plum did. I actually wanted to kill him earlier because he was the most competent town. There just wasn't an earlier opportunity except N1 and he wasn't the threat then. I appreciate this post. I put a lot of thought into my actions, especially trying to figure out if Phoenix was prosty or scum. I thought my line of questioning him was pretty clever --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:884200059] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>pezloco posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote>Town mvp.... or something. Dowolf is a shit. Great game death. What was the RB story? Dumb luck that kept working?</quote> As earlier mentioned, we continued to RB you because of your reaction to Scare. You wanted him to explain the RB super clearly. It obvious to us you knew you were RBed. So we kept RBing you. But no you're not the town MVP. In fact this above was one of your many misplays as town. Your reads were correct, although occasionally for the wrong reasons. But your play as town was pretty bad. First it doesn't make sense for Scare to fake being RBed as scum. But even if you think you have him caught in a lie, you revealed you were power by focusing on the RB part. And worse you did it by giving us more info and not giving any to town. Farther, your too early confidence that Scept was cleared (which he shared) and your arrogance at the end of the game didn't let anyone follow you. Specifically in the end game, instead of acting like you were confirmed with your RB claim, there were plausible ways you could've been faking. In fact acknowledging these and pointing out the flaws of those arguments would've been really nice. But you might've lost everyone when you had the idea to kill scept who was confirmed after VI's death. No, the MVP was Plum. <cite>masterplum posted...</cite> <quote>I am still puzzling over the Tom kill Makes me think both Pez is scum and death and Red are scum Such an odd kill</quote> This was right on. But more than just that, he soft claimed very well and it's too bad that Phoenix missed it. When he asked Phoenix those questions, I thought maybe Plum was Prosty and bread crumbing it. Then when Scept talked about being slept with and no one claimed prosty. It could've easily been Plum. Plum of course knew it was Phoenix. And he didn't point it out. Phoenix had no need to claim. We would've had to debate between Phoenix and Plum. We were pretty sure that it was Phoenix based Phoenix's response to Plum's question. But that was somewhat in doubt because we didn't think Plum was scanner. We thought he was either Prosty or slept with. But being slept with didn't quite make sense because Plum said he would've slept with KBM N1. So how did Plum know? We never answered that question because Phoenix answered who was Prosty. This wasn't the only good thing Plum did. I actually wanted to kill him earlier because he was the most competent town. There just wasn't an earlier opportunity except N1 and he wasn't the threat then.</quote> I appreciate this post. I put a lot of thought into my actions, especially trying to figure out if Phoenix was prosty or scum. I thought my line of questioning him was pretty clever</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 08/04/17 8:42:32 PM #318:	Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:884200172] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 08/04/17 8:43:30 PM #319:	Also I was 100% sure Sbell was scum when he argued that they should lynch confirmed Town on purpose. I don't even --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:884200208] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Also I was 100% sure Sbell was scum when he argued that they should lynch confirmed Town on purpose. I don't even</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero11 08/04/17 8:44:22 PM #320:	The war kept going with Prince Akihito named as the new emperor. People quickly got tired of the war and decided to turn on the Shogunate, blaming them for dragging it out and their influence quickly faded as citizens began to doubt their control. Kondo Isami was killed and the Shinsengumi crumbled. SBell has been lynched! He was Kondo Isami, TOWN Bodyguard! With the Shinsengumi gone, the shogunate lost hope and gave up, surrendering quickly and turning over power to the new emperor. Death is now the Emperor! He is Komatsu Akihiko, new ruler of Japan! Congratulations on becoming Emperor Death! --- MZero, to the extreme "2017 Guru champ BKSheikah is racist against cute Pokemon." - Luster <cite>MZero11 posted [p:884200254] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>The war kept going with Prince Akihito named as the new emperor. People quickly got tired of the war and decided to turn on the Shogunate, blaming them for dragging it out and their influence quickly faded as citizens began to doubt their control. Kondo Isami was killed and the Shinsengumi crumbled. SBell has been lynched! He was Kondo Isami, TOWN Bodyguard! With the Shinsengumi gone, the shogunate lost hope and gave up, surrendering quickly and turning over power to the new emperor. Death is now the Emperor! He is Komatsu Akihiko, new ruler of Japan! Congratulations on becoming Emperor Death!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dowolf 08/04/17 8:45:10 PM #321:	masterplum posted... dowolf posted... htaeD posted... also I assume the townpower overload was a meta trap for town Mzero can comment on that when he gets back but eesh, if we hadnt blocked Sbell or killed the Jailkeeper night1 (also a random shot) things would have gone bad quickly nobody on our team (besides me I guess?), could escape scrutiny What was it, d3 or so when I straight-up said "Death, are you scum?" I wish I'd followed up on that more. I put too much stock in Plum's assurances that there just happened to be no scum on Oddity, I think. I never said anything close to this masterplum 07/26/17 8:46:40 PM 215 dowolf posted... I like the people on Red. But if there's scum on Oddity... What's even the alternative? That scum didn't cast votes d1? Literally means nothing It's happened before. It's coincidence --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius <cite>dowolf posted [p:884200305] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterplum posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dowolf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>htaeD posted...</cite> <quote>also I assume the townpower overload was a meta trap for town Mzero can comment on that when he gets back but eesh, if we hadnt blocked Sbell or killed the Jailkeeper night1 (also a random shot) things would have gone bad quickly nobody on our team (besides me I guess?), could escape scrutiny</quote> What was it, d3 or so when I straight-up said "Death, are you scum?" I wish I'd followed up on that more. I put too much stock in Plum's assurances that there just happened to be no scum on Oddity, I think.</quote> I never said anything close to this</quote> <quote> masterplum 07/26/17 8:46:40 PM 215 dowolf posted... I like the people on Red. But if there's scum on Oddity... What's even the alternative? That scum didn't cast votes d1? Literally means nothing It's happened before. It's coincidence</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 08/04/17 8:46:57 PM #322:	I didn't assure you that there were no scum on oddity, I told you it meant nothing. It still means nothing --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:884200383] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>I didn't assure you that there were no scum on oddity, I told you it meant nothing. It still means nothing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 08/04/17 8:47:31 PM #323:	masterplum posted... Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell They couldn't until Death was the only one alive. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest <cite>Reg posted [p:884200407] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterplum posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell</quote> They couldn't until Death was the only one alive.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 08/04/17 8:48:06 PM #324:	Reg posted... masterplum posted... Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell They couldn't until Death was the only one alive. I was always under the impression that never changed I was quite shocked to die because of it --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:884200428] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>masterplum posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell</quote> They couldn't until Death was the only one alive.</quote> I was always under the impression that never changed I was quite shocked to die because of it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezloco 08/04/17 8:52:15 PM #325:	dowolf posted... pezloco posted... Obellisk posted... After you blocked me night 2 and got the kill of on kbm, we're you fully aware of your dumb luck? No, we thought you were BG or Jack. We knew N2 when we blocked you that you were power. @dowolf Part of why blocking and killing KBM wasn't as bad as you think it was is because we knew SBell was power. So, we knew that the percentages were tipped toward us. SBell could've been the second protection or the second scanner. If he's a scanner, we prevent him getting information instead of KBM. If he's protection we block him and KBM dies. Even in that case, I would argue shooting SBell and blocking KBM would've been the better play. You couldn't have been 100% certain SBell was power, after all, no matter how strong your read was. But I digress. 100%? No. But, this wasn't a read. He slipped in his questioning of Scare. We caught it because we knew he'd been RBed. I did argue for your suggestion. But I was fine with the choice we made. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884200611] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>dowolf posted...</cite> <quote><cite>pezloco posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote>After you blocked me night 2 and got the kill of on kbm, we're you fully aware of your dumb luck?</quote> No, we thought you were BG or Jack. We knew N2 when we blocked you that you were power. @dowolf Part of why blocking and killing KBM wasn't as bad as you think it was is because we knew SBell was power. So, we knew that the percentages were tipped toward us. SBell could've been the second protection or the second scanner. If he's a scanner, we prevent him getting information instead of KBM. If he's protection we block him and KBM dies.</quote> Even in that case, I would argue shooting SBell and blocking KBM would've been the better play. You couldn't have been 100% certain SBell was power, after all, no matter how strong your read was. But I digress.</quote> 100%? No. But, this wasn't a read. He slipped in his questioning of Scare. We caught it because we knew he'd been RBed. I did argue for your suggestion. But I was fine with the choice we made.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterplum 08/04/17 8:52:18 PM #326:	Anyways final thoughts, Death played very well. He played the long game admirably. I am disappointed in scare and Sbell. Both of them made extremely puzzling plays that ended up causing them to be lynched. Everyone else I thought was varying levels of fine --- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdWiElvIQAAQpBt.jpg me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg <cite>masterplum posted [p:884200617] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Anyways final thoughts, Death played very well. He played the long game admirably. I am disappointed in scare and Sbell. Both of them made extremely puzzling plays that ended up causing them to be lynched. Everyone else I thought was varying levels of fine</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MenuWars 08/04/17 8:55:11 PM #327:	Reg posted... masterplum posted... Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell They couldn't until Death was the only one alive. This is fairly standard procedure for any of the scum teams I've been on. --- I'm bad at Maffs. BEDMAS Bioshock, Earthworm Jim, Diablo 2, Mass Effect 2, Ark: Survival Evolved, Super Meat Boy <cite>MenuWars posted [p:884200767] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>masterplum posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell</quote> They couldn't until Death was the only one alive.</quote> This is fairly standard procedure for any of the scum teams I've been on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezloco 08/04/17 8:55:22 PM #328:	Oddity posted... Didn't read most of the game after I died. But damn, Death's scum game is much better than I thought. Pez just fooled me. In the beginning of day 2 I knew VI was scum because he made a post that argued activity as opposed to scumminess. Also thought red and moltar were scummy beginning of day 2, but that was partially based off the fact that I thought pez was town. Not going to ignore roommate powers anymore :P I have to apologize to KBM because when I went back and reread, she actually did post significant content on the first page of the third topic. Guess which page I didn't read because I was under heavy fire from town? Most of your content before that was very fluffy and lurky so that's why I was pretty harsh in my statements regarding you during my meltdown. So I'm sorry. To be fair, he didn't pull out roommate powers. That's what we say when we're sure. He only strongly suspected. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884200777] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Oddity posted...</cite> <quote>Didn't read most of the game after I died. But damn, Death's scum game is much better than I thought. Pez just fooled me. In the beginning of day 2 I knew VI was scum because he made a post that argued activity as opposed to scumminess. Also thought red and moltar were scummy beginning of day 2, but that was partially based off the fact that I thought pez was town. Not going to ignore roommate powers anymore :P I have to apologize to KBM because when I went back and reread, she actually did post significant content on the first page of the third topic. Guess which page I didn't read because I was under heavy fire from town? Most of your content before that was very fluffy and lurky so that's why I was pretty harsh in my statements regarding you during my meltdown. So I'm sorry.</quote> To be fair, he didn't pull out roommate powers. That's what we say when we're sure. He only strongly suspected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezloco 08/04/17 9:00:53 PM #329:	masterplum posted... Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell That didn't happen until Death was the only one left. Thats also the only time it's allowed --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884201047] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterplum posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, and I was under the impressionession scum couldn't use their skill and kill at the same time A little annoyed that happened. Would have cleared sbell</quote> That didn't happen until Death was the only one left. Thats also the only time it's allowed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezloco 08/04/17 9:08:13 PM #330:	Also in D2 no one called me on what I'd seen of Chris that made me think he was town. His list 4 names thing was a great setup for maybe finding a second scum if either Scare or Tom flipped scum. I have every confidence that Chris thought if one flipped scum then Chris would have every confidence that he could find another scum on those lists. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884201406] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Also in D2 no one called me on what I'd seen of Chris that made me think he was town. His list 4 names thing was a great setup for maybe finding a second scum if either Scare or Tom flipped scum. I have every confidence that Chris thought if one flipped scum then Chris would have every confidence that he could find another scum on those lists.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeryInsane 08/04/17 9:08:55 PM #331:	Hey guys if you want you should sign up for Tom and Pez's game (I would but I need to take a break and focus on getting ready for Web Dev class stuff) https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75635763 --- Warning: I'm literally VeryInsane. <cite>VeryInsane posted [p:884201439] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Hey guys if you want you should sign up for Tom and Pez's game (I would but I need to take a break and focus on getting ready for Web Dev class stuff) https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75635763</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezloco 08/04/17 9:14:40 PM #332:	@VeryInsane, thanks for the plug @Reg about balance, I think vig no BG would've been right for the balance, but BG fits flavor better. But meh, good game. Thanks to you and @MZero11 for hosting. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884201724] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>@VeryInsane, thanks for the plug @Reg about balance, I think vig no BG would've been right for the balance, but BG fits flavor better. But meh, good game. Thanks to you and @MZero11 for hosting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pezloco 08/04/17 9:17:54 PM #333:	Sorry, Jack not big. --- I'm the Pez and I'm AWESOME <cite>pezloco posted [p:884201911] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Sorry, Jack not big.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 08/04/17 9:25:24 PM #334:	masterplum posted... Also I was 100% sure Sbell was scum when he argued that they should lynch confirmed Town on purpose. I don't even Force scum to reveal someone else. We KNEW they would kill scept. It was a good play. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:884202305] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>masterplum posted...</cite> <quote>Also I was 100% sure Sbell was scum when he argued that they should lynch confirmed Town on purpose. I don't even</quote> Force scum to reveal someone else. We KNEW they would kill scept. It was a good play.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 08/04/17 9:29:20 PM #335:	Obellisk posted... masterplum posted... Also I was 100% sure Sbell was scum when he argued that they should lynch confirmed Town on purpose. I don't even Force scum to reveal someone else. We KNEW they would kill scept. It was a good play. Burning a mislynch on confirmed town is not good play in any universe, I'm sorry. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest <cite>Reg posted [p:884202498] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote><cite>masterplum posted...</cite> <quote>Also I was 100% sure Sbell was scum when he argued that they should lynch confirmed Town on purpose. I don't even</quote> Force scum to reveal someone else. We KNEW they would kill scept. It was a good play.</quote> Burning a mislynch on confirmed town is not good play in any universe, I'm sorry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dowolf 08/04/17 9:35:32 PM #336:	yeah that was just weird. --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius <cite>dowolf posted [p:884202775] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>yeah that was just weird.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 08/04/17 9:36:09 PM #337:	There is a universe where it makes sense to force scum to show us someone else's alignment --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:884202805] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>There is a universe where it makes sense to force scum to show us someone else's alignment</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 08/04/17 9:36:43 PM #338:	Obellisk posted... There is a universe where it makes sense to force scum to show us someone else's alignment No, because in that case it's better to do it through lynching. That way, you have a chance of hitting scum. --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest <cite>Reg posted [p:884202831] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote>There is a universe where it makes sense to force scum to show us someone else's alignment</quote> No, because in that case it's better to do it through lynching. That way, you have a chance of hitting scum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 08/04/17 9:37:18 PM #339:	Scare was obvious lynch and he was Town. So scum ain't gunna nk him. So if we lynch sceptile... it makes sense, it does. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:884202852] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Scare was obvious lynch and he was Town. So scum ain't gunna nk him. So if we lynch sceptile... it makes sense, it does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeryInsane 08/04/17 9:42:38 PM #340:	So then you just delay lynching Scare a day and lose or you get yourself lynched and lose --- Warning: I'm literally VeryInsane. <cite>VeryInsane posted [p:884203103] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>So then you just delay lynching Scare a day and lose or you get yourself lynched and lose</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 08/04/17 9:43:55 PM #341:	VeryInsane posted... So then you just delay lynching Scare a day and lose or you get yourself lynched and lose And this also assumes that Scare is known to be town in advance, in which case why is he a lynch candidate? --- Congratulations to BKSheikah, winner of the BYIG Guru Contest <cite>Reg posted [p:884203165] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>VeryInsane posted...</cite> <quote>So then you just delay lynching Scare a day and lose or you get yourself lynched and lose</quote> And this also assumes that Scare is known to be town in advance, in which case why is he a lynch candidate?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 08/04/17 9:46:30 PM #342:	Obellisk posted... Scare was obvious lynch and he was Town. So scum ain't gunna nk him. So if we lynch sceptile... it makes sense, it does. https://media1.giphy.com/media/RFYMmNb3j60BG/giphy.gif --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:884203267] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Obellisk posted...</cite> <quote>Scare was obvious lynch and he was Town. So scum ain't gunna nk him. So if we lynch sceptile... it makes sense, it does.</quote> https://media1.giphy.com/media/RFYMmNb3j60BG/giphy.gif</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 08/04/17 9:47:32 PM #343:	Reg posted... VeryInsane posted... So then you just delay lynching Scare a day and lose or you get yourself lynched and lose And this also assumes that Scare is known to be town in advance, in which case why is he a lynch candidate? Well yes, looking back there is the hindsight that scare was town. But at that moment in not knowing he's town it still made sense. I was still on the fence with scare. I felt forcing scum to reveal someone else sat better. I'll accept that it is an unconventional play and possibly a bad one but making scum do your bidding has a benefit some where. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:884203324] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Reg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>VeryInsane posted...</cite> <quote>So then you just delay lynching Scare a day and lose or you get yourself lynched and lose</quote> And this also assumes that Scare is known to be town in advance, in which case why is he a lynch candidate?</quote> Well yes, looking back there is the hindsight that scare was town. But at that moment in not knowing he's town it still made sense. I was still on the fence with scare. I felt forcing scum to reveal someone else sat better. I'll accept that it is an unconventional play and possibly a bad one but making scum do your bidding has a benefit some where.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolar 08/04/17 10:41:09 PM #344:	I think I already proved why lynching me could not possibly be correct. If you lynch me and scum shoots someone who we don't know alignment, we lose one known town and one unknown. If you lynch anyone else and scum shoots me, we lose one known town and one unknown. But, scum will shoot the person who is most dangerous to them, whereas we can lynch the person who is most suspicious to us. So the first unknown is less valuable dead than the second. In addition, the first option has a 0% chance of ending the game immediately. --- Just killing time until the world ends. <cite>Sceptilesolar posted [p:884205684] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>I think I already proved why lynching me could not possibly be correct. If you lynch me and scum shoots someone who we don't know alignment, we lose one known town and one unknown. If you lynch anyone else and scum shoots me, we lose one known town and one unknown. But, scum will shoot the person who is most dangerous to them, whereas we can lynch the person who is most suspicious to us. So the first unknown is less valuable dead than the second. In addition, the first option has a 0% chance of ending the game immediately.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolar 08/04/17 10:43:34 PM #345:	Also, figuring out how to improve my own play is going to be on my mind in the future. I only played okay this game at best, I had one good day and a bunch of bad days. I did play decently D3 to escape my own lynch and escape the gravy lynch at the last second, and also try to go after VI that day. But I tunneled on dowolf too long and never took a real look at death. Not really great. --- Just killing time until the world ends. <cite>Sceptilesolar posted [p:884205796] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Also, figuring out how to improve my own play is going to be on my mind in the future. I only played okay this game at best, I had one good day and a bunch of bad days. I did play decently D3 to escape my own lynch and escape the gravy lynch at the last second, and also try to go after VI that day. But I tunneled on dowolf too long and never took a real look at death. Not really great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dowolf 08/04/17 10:45:26 PM #346:	things i didn't include in my endgame calculations: 1) SBell isn't an asshole 2) SBell does not have a box to be outside of. --- Nonsense. "Testing" is for when you're still guessing--and now, I have no need to guess. -- Agatha, Girl Genius <cite>dowolf posted [p:884205874] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>things i didn't include in my endgame calculations: 1) SBell isn't an asshole 2) SBell does not have a box to be outside of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phoenix-Smasher 08/04/17 10:57:52 PM #347:	I kinda feel like I cost town the game in a sense by outting and not going after Death harder :/ --- MacGyver uses Duct Tape!!! It's Super Effective!!! <cite>Phoenix-Smasher posted [p:884206428] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>I kinda feel like I cost town the game in a sense by outting and not going after Death harder :/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeryInsane 08/04/17 11:00:17 PM #348:	Phoenix-Smasher posted... I kinda feel like I cost town the game in a sense by outting and not going after Death harder :/ All you have to do next time is not put all your thoughts in an incomprehensible wall --- Warning: I'm literally VeryInsane. <cite>VeryInsane posted [p:884206537] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phoenix-Smasher posted...</cite> <quote>I kinda feel like I cost town the game in a sense by outting and not going after Death harder :/</quote> All you have to do next time is not put all your thoughts in an incomprehensible wall</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolar 08/04/17 11:07:43 PM #349:	Phoenix-Smasher posted... I kinda feel like I cost town the game in a sense by outting and not going after Death harder :/ I don't think you claiming really mattered. Once scum knew there was a prosty, they would have probably settled on you when you told plum you would have targeted me. And if I don't reveal that, I assume I get lynched. It shouldn't have been very hard. --- Just killing time until the world ends. <cite>Sceptilesolar posted [p:884206925] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote><cite>Phoenix-Smasher posted...</cite> <quote>I kinda feel like I cost town the game in a sense by outting and not going after Death harder :/</quote> I don't think you claiming really mattered. Once scum knew there was a prosty, they would have probably settled on you when you told plum you would have targeted me. And if I don't reveal that, I assume I get lynched. It shouldn't have been very hard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leafeon13N 08/04/17 11:08:43 PM #350:	Once prosty was confirmed we basically knew it was Phoenix, yes. <cite>Leafeon13N posted [p:884206989] in ~~Japanese... [t:75618687]...</cite> <quote>Once prosty was confirmed we basically knew it was Phoenix, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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