Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XIX: Nominations Part 2 [smfffc]

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OlDirtyNumbers posted...

Yeah and Balthier originates from fuckin' han solo take his ass out too

Nice job of confusing "inspired by" and "a direct representation of".

GANON1025 posted...

the ffbe wiki lists her origin as "ariana grande"

I'm not even sure why I'm arguing this, I want DA to get in

Wikia is god mode. Follow whatever it says.
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GANON1025 posted...

the ffbe wiki lists her origin as "ariana grande"

The mind of Ariana Grande obviously. I mean she did supposedly help in developing the character and all.
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Lopen posted...

v_charon posted...

Lopen posted...

I'm still asking the question what is Dangerous Ariana a character from if not a FF game.

Was there some game called Touch It!, Ariana Grande Dance Beat or something that had this character that I'm unaware of.

Real life people made into video game characters are not video game characters. As I stated, her bio even says she's basically just Ariana Grande, she's not even described as from the world as the other characters belong to.

You haven't even played the game-- that's not what the bio says at all. The bio says "she's from another world." MOST of the characters in Brave Exvius have this in their bio somewhere. Cause the whole gimmick of the game is you're summoning the crystalized memories of heroes from other worlds given form as warriors.

Show me the concert where Ariana Grande destroys her enemies with powerful Black Magic and I will concede she's not a Final Fantasy character.

She didn't have the logo the actual FF heroes have from what uh WhiteLens I think said/showed. I mean really we all know she is literally just Ariana Grande and people are nominating her to be funny because there's like no other joke picks left

OlDirtyNumbers posted...

https://exvius.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&go=Submit&search=world&searchToken=e4uo3k0n6n0iuvdm36y6z9u0i

that was hard

You do realize almost all of these are actual FF characters, just from other games, right? So of course they are not from FFBE's world. I hope you didn't think you actually achieved something.
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ah yes, that direct representation of the Powerful Black Mage, Ariana Grande
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no because no one ever achieves anything talking to you

edit: headaches from eye rolling not withstanding
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v_charon posted...

OlDirtyNumbers posted...

https://exvius.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&go=Submit&search=world&searchToken=e4uo3k0n6n0iuvdm36y6z9u0i

that was hard

You do realize almost all of these are actual FF characters, just from other games, right? So of course they are not from FFBE's world. I hope you didn't think you actually achieved something.

No shit most of them are actual FF characters most of the character in the game are actual FF characters
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The point being the "another world" shit in their bio just means they are from their own Final Fantasy universe. The "another world" in Ariana's means she's from reality, because she is in no other FF game like the rest of these are.
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It's based on Ariana, it's not actually Ariana.
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If there was a Pitbull collaboration (and we can only hope there will be) and the character was Mr. Worldwide, would he count
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VeryInsane posted...

It's based on Ariana, it's not actually Ariana.

this is very clear. anyone who continues to insist otherwise is just very, very dumb.
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v_charon posted...

The point being the "another world" shit in their bio just means they are from their own Final Fantasy universe. The "another world" in Ariana's means she's from reality, because she is in no other FF game like the rest of these are.

No it actually mostly means "she's not being used in the plot scenes of this game whatsoever." Again, to argue otherwise implies you think Ariana Grande is a practitioner of the dark arts.
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also keep in mind I'm not even a DA supporter, so I really have no horse in this race. I only nominated her as part of a trade. this is just an issue of incredibly basic common sense.
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Lopen posted...

Again, to argue otherwise implies you think Ariana Grande is a practitioner of the dark arts.

at this point I really want her to be
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So does CEO Matsuda count? I mean he's a boss in a mainline FF title. That's worth more than whatever Dangerous has going

fictional versions of real-life people are always kind of a gray area, but I think they should be allowed as long as they're sufficiently different from the real version

like, Fate has its own version of Julius Caesar as a Servant Saber
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/typemoon/images/8/86/SaberGOCaesarstage1.png

if I nominated him for Most Excellent Fictional Character, I think he should count. he's clearly based on the historical dude, but he's also heavily fictionalized (he's summoned as a Saber-class heroic spirit for the Holy Grail War, he has a Noble Phantasm, etc.). I'm specifically nominating the fictional Fate character rather than the historical dude.

likewise here

VeryInsane posted...

It's based on Ariana, it's not actually Ariana.

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She does say it is an honor for her character to be in FFBE, not she herself. Hmm so many twists and turns
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nobody has a horse in this race, they all ran off the track hours ago

I can't believe this is still going on over one character that probably won't make the top 30.

excuse you
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todbot1 posted...

nobody has a horse in this race, they all ran off the track hours ago

I can't believe this is still going on over one character that probably won't make the top 30.

eh she'll probably do well this year and immediately get booted next year

just like Tyro
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well I can't speak for anyone else but I think this drama is hilarious and the more people get butthurt about Dangerous Ariana being in the more likely I am to support her in the mid to late rounds when all my own characters inevitably die off.
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What if everyone who nominated DA just changed their nomination to Rain or Lasswell

problem solved
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MariaTaylor posted...

also keep in mind I'm not even a DA supporter, so I really have no horse in this race. I only nominated her as part of a trade. this is just an issue of incredibly basic common sense.

And I already said this

v_charon posted...

For the record, I have less of a problem with Ariana than I do with BD. Hell, probably even less than I do with FF1's classes being allowed. So since both of these things are already in, I mean really what's the point in bothering anymore with petitioning to the host(s) of these things?

This all came about because you inserted yourself into the conversation by talking down to me about integrity for some unknown reason. This contest sucks but it's a habit so I play it anyway, the host has no respect for me and I have no respect for him, so there really is no point. I am not actually debating to get her removed, because Leon would never do that, especially if I was suggesting it. I was expressing my point of view on why she shouldn't ACTUALLY be in, if it were up to me. Something many people here have said you should take an open view on if the opinion differs from yours. Unfortunately there's no sign of FFD to tell you that my opinion is valid based on it being an opinion (not to mention being shared by many others), that's a right only reserved for his replies to me.
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FFDragon posted...

I'm not even saying my way is 100% correct -- Just that I've laid out all of my logic that lead me to my decisions.

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I don't care enough about DA just because if everyone is in on the joke it defeats the whole purpose of a joke character but yeah if this drama keeps going all contest long she's probably gonna be a big favorite
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I really want to know if Matsuda counts. I mean he looks to just be a game version of himself and not the actual guy unless you believe he can fly around in the air like a ninja and use a sword

Tyro sucks ass

I actually like Dangerous Ariana-- I'm not some nut who has her all super specced out like numbers but I have her at max level and use her from time to time. I'm sure she has more real non-joke fans than the so called "real" Brave Exvius nominations-- cause who could possibly like Rain.
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I can possibly like Rain

I can possibly like ALL the heroes of ffbe
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Hey I am a huge fan of Dangerous Ariana. I probably have one of the most powerful ones in all of BE. no joke here!!
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boss Matsuda should totally count IMO

but why would you nominate him when you could nominate the Good King Moggle Mog XII
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I think the best case for ditching boss Matsuda is he's like DLC only or some crap

Which I mean, incredibly arbitrary distinction but no worse than the arbitrary criteria Leonhart used to ditch great characters like Dark Nation and ??????, who would totally get more support than crap like Vayne.
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For the record I 100% support CEO dude too. In fact I think most of these exclusionary politics are just ways to keep out characters one doesn't like, and all but the most obvious non-starters (Sora) should be allowed
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VeryInsane posted...

I don't care enough about DA just because if everyone is in on the joke it defeats the whole purpose of a joke character but yeah if this drama keeps going all contest long she's probably gonna be a big favorite

There is no real drama, this is just someone trying to create some even though I already said I didn't actually care. I just find Leon's methods of allowing one thing and not allowing something else hokey, and using a wikia is a pretty bad way to decide anything. It's like using fanfiction to tell you what is and what isn't canon.

I even added Ariana to the gauntlet, which JONA alluded to, several months ago after the concert tragedy. To be frank, it's a good design and neat idea.
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change Aranea to Yosuke Matsuda

why not
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Sorry got busy

Ultimecia

And I am done
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Change Chuami to Yosuke Matsuda

What's an oppa?

Grandpa?
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I suppose at the end of the day, if Genesis counts then DA should count
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cissnei is a kpop chick, does that count
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Genesis is a super badass black mage poet, Ariana is a super badass black mage singer. So yeah I see why you'd link those in your mind.
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I'm still sad that the FFBE crew didn't band together to get Bedile in as our joke nom.
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Lopen posted...

Again, to argue otherwise implies you think Ariana Grande is a practitioner of the dark arts.

More like a petty dabbler.
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Should have been Raegen imo
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Because we hate Bedile

Really though I'm not sure why Bedile even got that rep. Anzelm should hold that honor, being literally a 500 gold draw as you can't even get a unique ability by maxing out his trust, since you can just craft Drain.

And if we're going for strength of the brand the Dread Cyan of Doma > Bedile
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Lopen posted...

I actually like Dangerous Ariana-- I'm not some nut who has her all super specced out like numbers but I have her at max level and use her from time to time. I'm sure she has more real non-joke fans than the so called "real" Brave Exvius nominations-- cause who could possibly like Rain.

Rain is the main reason i quit before even finishing the tutorial tbqh
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Drop the Ariana talk and come support Reks lol
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What kind of mobile game is BE anyways? A gacha?

Don't forget that Tyro was in this for 2 years.
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