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joeun_saram 08/08/17 1:40:48 PM #1: |
to me, the guy who dodged the draft and hasn't lied about it is less in the wrong here --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 08/08/17 1:43:08 PM #2: |
Stolen valor for sure. At least you're not trying to lie about your service if you're known as a draft dodger.
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salandrews 08/08/17 1:43:50 PM #4: |
Stolen valor easily.
It's easy to understand why one wouldnt want to be in a war. May not be right but understandable. Stealing valor is just saying you have no merits of your own so you have to pretend. --- "This is war. There are no spectator seats on the battlefield." - Griffith ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 08/08/17 1:45:01 PM #5: |
salandrews posted...
It's easy to understand why one wouldnt want to be in a war. May not be right but understandable. What is not right about not wanting to fight in a war? --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joeun_saram 08/08/17 1:47:37 PM #6: |
Paper_Okami posted...
What is not right about not wanting to fight in a war? If you have a nationalistic mindset, perhaps it's equated to treason because you're not answering the call of the state? --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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salandrews 08/08/17 1:56:10 PM #7: |
joeun_saram posted...
Paper_Okami posted...What is not right about not wanting to fight in a war? War is something most wont go into voluntarily. Its why drafts are implemented. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to go, but there is definitely something wrong with not going after you've been drafted. --- "This is war. There are no spectator seats on the battlefield." - Griffith ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PokeRocksUSA 08/08/17 1:56:47 PM #8: |
Stolen valor for sure. Hell, my dad worked with a guy who got away with stealing his brother's valor for nearly two decades-- both in name and credentials. He even got into several police/security/government positions before my dad ended up figuring him out and reporting it.
He was a real shit head, and I have no idea how he pulled it off. I think he ended up getting a hefty prison sentence, but I never heard past his initial trial. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boxington 08/08/17 1:58:10 PM #9: |
stolen valor.
conscription is bullshit. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joeun_saram 08/08/17 2:01:28 PM #10: |
okay now a follow up question
do you guys think trump is a bad person for dodging the draft --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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salandrews 08/08/17 2:05:28 PM #11: |
joeun_saram posted...
okay now a follow up question What was his excuse again? I forgot --- "This is war. There are no spectator seats on the battlefield." - Griffith ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/08/17 2:06:22 PM #12: |
Draft dodge. You country calls on you and you've benefited so much from it, then you fail to live up to your responsibility. Fuck that.
Stolen valor is stupid but mostly harmless, draft dodging means someone else takes your spot. Stolen valor is mostly try hard service members whining and posting youtube gotcha videos. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joeun_saram 08/08/17 2:07:52 PM #13: |
salandrews posted...
What was his excuse again? I forgot he got student deferments and eventually got a medical one --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joeun_saram 08/08/17 2:08:08 PM #14: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Stolen valor is stupid but mostly harmless oh look at that, anarchy jubilex posting absolute nonsense again i mean talk about a guy that doesn't know enough about the world to think in depth about anything --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 08/08/17 2:10:01 PM #15: |
Stolen valor for sure. That person is profiting off a lie which is pretty much fraud.
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TheGoldenState 08/08/17 2:16:53 PM #16: |
I'm in the navy, and I was at a bar the other night. Yea yea, well anyway there was a chick there who said she had served in the navy. After one simple question that she answered very strangely "what was your rate?" which she didnt understand "do you mean my rank?". No girl, your rate. Well, turns out she had signed up but bailed before shipping to boot. People, man. Its not even fucking cool to be in the fuckin military.
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/08/17 2:23:34 PM #17: |
joeun_saram posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...Stolen valor is stupid but mostly harmless Different values and priorities. Dodging the draft is a crime. Stolen valor is only a crime if used to defraud and you're faking medals, not just service. I think that speaks volumes about which is worse. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joeun_saram 08/08/17 2:29:30 PM #18: |
I think it speaks volumes that you think someone who would rather not go to war is worse than someone who'd lie about having made that sacrifice, in the face of everyone that actually did
also that you called stolen valor harmless is still so funny to me joeun_saram posted... i mean talk about a guy that doesn't know enough about the world to think in depth about anything --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChromaticAngel 08/08/17 2:31:08 PM #20: |
Alucard188 posted...
Stolen valor for sure. At least you're not trying to lie about your service if you're known as a draft dodger. This. Draft Dodging is also sympathetic if you can back it up with other actions. It's just Draft Dodging + Warmongering later that is stupid. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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deanshow 08/08/17 2:51:32 PM #21: |
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Draft dodge. You country calls on you and you've benefited so much from it, then you fail to live up to your responsibility. Fuck that. LOL literally the worst poster making another shit post, something new and wonderful --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YellowSUV 08/08/17 3:05:16 PM #22: |
Nothing wrong with not being a tool to be used in a stupid war. I have no problem with Trump being a draft dodger. Besides, there 1000s of other legit things that you can complain about Trump.
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salandrews 08/08/17 3:14:12 PM #23: |
YellowSUV posted...
Nothing wrong with not being a tool to be used in a stupid war. I have no problem with Trump being a draft dodger. Besides, there 1000s of other legit things that you can complain about Trump. Military service shouldn't be mandatory to be president, but dodging the draft should be make you ineligible for any gov't position. --- "This is war. There are no spectator seats on the battlefield." - Griffith ... Copied to Clipboard!
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K181 08/08/17 3:15:33 PM #24: |
Stolen valor, easily. And I'm not going to fault someone for not wanting to serve for any reason. Easy for us to have an opinion about draft dodgers when the United States hasn't used the draft for decades, after all.
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joeun_saram 08/08/17 3:33:33 PM #25: |
salandrews posted...
but dodging the draft should be make you ineligible for any gov't position. Why? Trump didn't do anything illegal --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 08/08/17 3:38:27 PM #26: |
salandrews posted...
There's nothing wrong with not wanting to go, but there is definitely something wrong with not going after you've been drafted. LMAO no there isn't. War is bullshit. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/08/17 3:39:39 PM #27: |
Paper_Okami posted...
salandrews posted...There's nothing wrong with not wanting to go, but there is definitely something wrong with not going after you've been drafted. Then don't sign your selective service papers. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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salandrews 08/08/17 3:42:31 PM #28: |
Paper_Okami posted...
salandrews posted...There's nothing wrong with not wanting to go, but there is definitely something wrong with not going after you've been drafted. Thats wonderful idealistic thinking. --- "This is war. There are no spectator seats on the battlefield." - Griffith ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XxKrazyChaosxX 08/08/17 3:44:40 PM #29: |
Imagine if we had a draft in this day and age.
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DirkDiggles 08/08/17 3:48:32 PM #30: |
joeun_saram posted...
salandrews posted...but dodging the draft should be make you ineligible for any gov't position. Clinton and GHW Bush did also dodged. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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joeun_saram 08/08/17 3:50:33 PM #31: |
DirkDiggles posted...
joeun_saram posted...salandrews posted...but dodging the draft should be make you ineligible for any gov't position. And neither of them did anything illegal methinks someone didn't know this little tidbit tee hee --- im a good person ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anarchy_Juiblex 08/08/17 3:54:46 PM #32: |
DirkDiggles posted...
joeun_saram posted...salandrews posted...but dodging the draft should be make you ineligible for any gov't position. Shifty ways of becoming exempt =/= dodging. Don't get me wrong, it's as morally reprehensible but there's legitimate reasons for exemptions. It's basically like taxes, there are just exemptions but it's massively abused by those with power. @deanshow @joeun_saram I like how you guys have no refutation to my arguments and instead bluster about inane bull shit. Basically you're the political tools that get conned by wedge issues instead of focusing on what matters. --- "Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice." ~ Ayaan Hirsi Ali ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 08/08/17 4:27:13 PM #33: |
salandrews posted...
Paper_Okami posted...salandrews posted...There's nothing wrong with not wanting to go, but there is definitely something wrong with not going after you've been drafted. Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq all bullshit wars. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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salandrews 08/08/17 4:30:30 PM #34: |
Paper_Okami posted...
salandrews posted...Paper_Okami posted... Of those only Vietnam had a draft. --- "This is war. There are no spectator seats on the battlefield." - Griffith ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 08/08/17 6:13:03 PM #35: |
salandrews posted...
Paper_Okami posted...salandrews posted...Paper_Okami posted... Yup, and unless they are hypocrites like Trump, I have no problem with any who draft dodged. My dad was lucky enough to have a high number and not be drafted, but one of his best friend was drafted and got out as an objector. --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WizardPowers 08/08/17 6:14:14 PM #36: |
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