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scarletspeed7
08/16/17 1:48:31 AM
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James Bond.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/daniel-craig-confirms-return-james-bond-role-1030056

This will also be the 25th Bond film in the series. Personally, I'm glad to see him search for a better send-off than Spectre.
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ninkendo
08/16/17 1:49:09 AM
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Hopefully he won't want to cut his wrist this time
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08/16/17 1:54:54 AM
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The more interesting question is who will eventually replace him as Bond. I get the feeling he'll be the last uncontroversial Bond.
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scarletspeed7
08/16/17 1:55:31 AM
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Well sadly it won't be Idris Elba now. That window closes with another Craig Bond.
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Kain66
08/16/17 2:04:49 AM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
Well sadly it won't be Idris Elba now. That window closes with another Craig Bond.


Why can't it be? Age?
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LOLIAmAnAlt
08/16/17 2:11:55 AM
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He is a good bond, so good.
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08/16/17 2:13:58 AM
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Kain66 posted...
scarletspeed7 posted...
Well sadly it won't be Idris Elba now. That window closes with another Craig Bond.


Why can't it be? Age?

Bond needs to be 35-45. Maybe 50 if you're playing up his age. I don't know how old he is, but he's on the upper limit for sure.
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scarletspeed7
08/16/17 2:17:36 AM
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He's 44. Granted, Moore started at the same point, but the rate at which they put out films virtually guarantees that he'd get 2 films at best now. Honestly, probably only 1.
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LOLIAmAnAlt
08/16/17 3:20:13 AM
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Connery made a film while he was 53, Moore 58 and Niven at 57.
Dalton and Moore started in their 40s
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08/16/17 3:24:58 AM
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Connery made a film while he was 53, Moore 58 and Niven at 57.
Dalton and Moore started in their 40s

All of that is true, but Moore admitted that he played Bond way too late and should have stopped when he was younger, Connery was the first Bond and they weren't clear on what they were doing, and no one cares about the non-EON films.
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XIII_rocks
08/16/17 7:30:13 AM
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It's interesting that there are a ton of options this time. I can't remember the search for Craig that well but I remember one of the "better" options was, like, Orlando Bloom or some shit

This time there are like 10 I'd be happy with.
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kevwaffles
08/16/17 7:32:29 AM
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Connery at 53 was also a non-EON film.
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kevwaffles
08/16/17 7:58:09 AM
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Worth noting, they initially wanted Dalton both times Connery left. We'd probably have much younger Bonds throughout if that had happened given that Moore is actually 3 years older than Connery.
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voltch
08/16/17 8:02:15 AM
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Always thought Clive Owen would have become bond over craig.

Big what if, Craig is great, but I'm sure Owen would have been good.
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scarletspeed7
08/16/17 9:45:43 AM
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kevwaffles posted...
Worth noting, they initially wanted Dalton both times Connery left. We'd probably have much younger Bonds throughout if that had happened given that Moore is actually 3 years older than Connery.

Also when Dalton actually got the role, they wanted Brosnan. Unfortunately Brosnan couldn't get out of his Remington Steele contract.
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kevwaffles
08/16/17 9:56:39 AM
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I was actually looking this up and it wasn't exactly true. At least not quite the way I always understood it.

In 1986, with Roger Moore's retirement from the role, Timothy Dalton was offered the role of James Bond once again after previously having turned it down when Sean Connery vacated the role in 1967. The 1986 film adaptation of Brenda Starr, however, kept Dalton from being able to immediately accept the role. A number of actors were then screen-tested for the role, notably Sam Neill, but ultimately were passed over by Cubby Broccoli. Brosnan (whose Remington Steele series had just ended), was offered the role, but publicity revived the Remington Steele programme and forced Brosnan to back out of the role due to his contract with the show. Dalton then became available and accepted the role. Dalton's second turn as 007 Licence to Kill (1989), was a disappointment at the American box office, and legal squabbles about ownership of the film franchise resulted in cancellation of a proposed third Dalton film in 1991 (rumoured title: The Property of A Lady) and would put the series in a six-year hiatus. During that time, Dalton acted upon a clause in his contract and resigned, which left the door open for Brosnan, in 1994].

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Shaduln
08/16/17 10:07:46 AM
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The more interesting question is who will eventually replace him as Bond. I get the feeling he'll be the last uncontroversial Bond.

Wasn't there a bunch of people complaining that he was blonde?
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08/16/17 12:08:06 PM
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Shaduln posted...
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The more interesting question is who will eventually replace him as Bond. I get the feeling he'll be the last uncontroversial Bond.

Wasn't there a bunch of people complaining that he was blonde?

There were, but that's less of a big deal. If they change Bond's race or gender, that's a big controversy. If they keep him as a white dude, that's still a big controversy.
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KujikawaRising
08/16/17 2:13:49 PM
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Daniel Craig better be good in this. He was very stale in SPECTRE, which is because he claims he was bored. It's awful that we have to wait until 2019 for another outing, too. Wish they'd still be on the "every two years" trajectory they'd kept since the late 60s. Other franchises manage to do that, or at least it seems that way.

Timothy Dalton turned the role down for OHMSS? I thought production had considered him but decided not to because he was "too young." and that they'd cast him when he was older. Which they did.

Moore was definitely too old in Octopussy and A View to a Kill - you can just see how much he aged between For Your Eyes Only and those two movies. When he retired, he was pretty outspoken that Bond should be under 50.

If they make Bond a woman, the lesbianism would be very strange. As would a woman named James. They can't change the character's name or personality traits, so a female would still be seducing women. That's why the idea appalls me. They should instead have a separate franchise of a dominatrix spy seducing men - an entirely separate one where there's room for crossover.

They need to stay true to Fleming and keep the character as envisioned. Also, Idris Elba declined because he didn't want to be remembered as "the black Bond." And he's right - people only wanted him cast because he's black.
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Bane_Of_Despair
08/16/17 2:16:13 PM
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yea that appalling evil lesbianism
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scarletspeed7
08/16/17 2:17:54 PM
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KujikawaRising posted...
They need to stay true to Fleming and keep the character as envisioned. Also, Idris Elba declined because he didn't want to be remembered as "the black Bond." And he's right - people only wanted him cast because he's black.

Which is sad because I wanted him simply because he has a natural Bond personality and a natural accent. I really don't care if Bond is black. I don't see how it changes the character.
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KujikawaRising
08/16/17 2:17:58 PM
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...
yea that appalling evil lesbianism

Let me clarify: Bond turning into that appalls me. Keep that in its own franchise, please.
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scarletspeed7
08/16/17 2:18:37 PM
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KujikawaRising posted...
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
yea that appalling evil lesbianism

Let me clarify: Bond turning into that appalls me. Keep that in its own franchise, please.

Scott Pilgrim?
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KujikawaRising
08/16/17 2:23:49 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
KujikawaRising posted...
They need to stay true to Fleming and keep the character as envisioned. Also, Idris Elba declined because he didn't want to be remembered as "the black Bond." And he's right - people only wanted him cast because he's black.

Which is sad because I wanted him simply because he has a natural Bond personality and a natural accent. I really don't care if Bond is black. I don't see how it changes the character.

Yes, Idris Elba would have made a good Bond. And I too don't see how him being black changes the character. Race is not important. But for some reason, some people think it is, and want "diversity quotas."

No, the most fitting person for the role should get it. Idris Elba would fit. And that has nothing to do with his race.
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scarletspeed7
08/16/17 2:28:28 PM
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I'm curious as to who if anybody else would fit the role that is a relatively notable star right now. I'm really wracking my brain, and I can't come up with any other options.

Clive Owen could have done it, but he's too old.

Guys like Fassbender and Dominic Cooper are just not right for the part in personality.
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08/16/17 2:50:54 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
I'm curious as to who if anybody else would fit the role that is a relatively notable star right now. I'm really wracking my brain, and I can't come up with any other options.

Clive Owen could have done it, but he's too old.

Guys like Fassbender and Dominic Cooper are just not right for the part in personality.

You don't need an already famous actor.
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scarletspeed7
08/16/17 2:53:11 PM
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I agree, but that's not the mindset of Hollywood.
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kevwaffles
08/16/17 3:40:17 PM
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KujikawaRising posted...
Timothy Dalton turned the role down for OHMSS? I thought production had considered him but decided not to because he was "too young." and that they'd cast him when he was older. Which they did.

Close. Dalton turned down the role because he felt he was too young. For OHMSS and L&LD.
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XIII_rocks
08/16/17 7:46:39 PM
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scarletspeed7 posted...
I agree, but that's not the mindset of Hollywood.


Craig wasn't exactly famous. He was kind of a left-field choice even

His biggest thing before that was, I think, Layer Cake

Oh and Tomb Raider lol
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KCF0107
08/16/17 8:18:25 PM
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I'd argue Road to Perdition since Layer Cake barely made a presence outside of the UK
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XIII_rocks
08/16/17 8:37:23 PM
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Oh I forgot he was in that
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scarletspeed7
08/16/17 8:40:35 PM
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He was on Hollywood shortlists though. Even pretty early on in the process.
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