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Medussa
08/23/17 7:40:50 PM
#305:


The Admiral posted...
I think averagejoel is really subtle gimmick account designed to make far-left liberals look insane.


irony
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averagejoel
08/23/17 7:44:30 PM
#306:


Medz2017 posted...
I know someone. They are transgender people.

what are you going on about now
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Medz2017
08/23/17 7:47:29 PM
#307:


averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
ok I know there are bigger problems with trans acceptance, but can people not use "transgenderism"? that implies transgender people are subscribing to some sort of ideology

and maybe, while you're at it, don't use "transgender" as a noun - it's like referring to black people as "the blacks". dehumanizing to reduce people to one aspect of their identity

It is official. Using transgender while referring to transgender people is transphobic

read the last sentence of the post again

What word do you suggest when talking about transgenders?

try "transgender people"

I know someone who is transgender people

reread the post. "transgender" is an adjective, not a noun

I know someone who is transgender people person.
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averagejoel
08/23/17 7:48:52 PM
#308:


Medz2017 posted...
I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls
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Glass_Phantom
08/23/17 7:53:17 PM
#309:


http://www.dictionary.com/browse/transgender?r=75&src=ref&ch=dic

noun
Usually Offensive. a person who is transgender.

The term transgender has largely replaced the older term transsexual, which is now considered outdated. Transgender is a less clinical term, referring more to gender identity and gender expression than to sexual orientation or physical sex characteristics. It is also a more general and inclusive term: a transgender person may be gay, transsexual, transvestite, or even genderqueer. Use of transgender as a noun is declining in use and is usually taken as offensive.
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Medz2017
08/23/17 7:57:26 PM
#310:


averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls

I know someone who is transgender.
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averagejoel
08/23/17 7:57:37 PM
#311:


Glass_Phantom posted...
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/transgender?r=75&src=ref&ch=dic

noun
Usually Offensive. a person who is transgender.

The term transgender has largely replaced the older term transsexual, which is now considered outdated. Transgender is a less clinical term, referring more to gender identity and gender expression than to sexual orientation or physical sex characteristics. It is also a more general and inclusive term: a transgender person may be gay, transsexual, transvestite, or even genderqueer. Use of transgender as a noun is declining in use and is usually taken as offensive.

as I said, using "transgender" as a noun is like referring to black people as "the blacks"

the latter is racist

the former is transphobic

as I already said, it reduces people to one aspect of their identity, which is dehumanizing
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averagejoel
08/23/17 7:59:31 PM
#312:


Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls

I know someone who is transgender.

there. that's correct

you can also say "I know a trans person", or replace "person" in that context with "man" or "woman"
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Medz2017
08/23/17 8:03:48 PM
#313:


averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls

I know someone who is transgender.

there. that's correct

you can also say "I know a trans person", or replace "person" in that context with "man" or "woman"

What about talking about a group who are transgender?
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averagejoel
08/23/17 8:11:11 PM
#314:


Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls

I know someone who is transgender.

there. that's correct

you can also say "I know a trans person", or replace "person" in that context with "man" or "woman"

What about talking about a group who are transgender?

most adjectives in English don't change from singular to plural (I say "most" because I can't think of any that do, though there might be some special case that I'm not thinking of)

just pluralize the noun described by the adjective (e.g. "trans people", "trans men", "trans women")
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Medz2017
08/23/17 8:13:04 PM
#315:


averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls

I know someone who is transgender.

there. that's correct

you can also say "I know a trans person", or replace "person" in that context with "man" or "woman"

What about talking about a group who are transgender?

most adjectives in English don't change from singular to plural (I say "most" because I can't think of any that do, though there might be some special case that I'm not thinking of)

just pluralize the noun described by the adjective (e.g. "trans people", "trans men", "trans women")

There was a gathering of transgenders people
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averagejoel
08/23/17 8:16:49 PM
#316:


Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
averagejoel posted...
Medz2017 posted...
I know someone who is transgender people person.

lern2grammer pls

I know someone who is transgender.

there. that's correct

you can also say "I know a trans person", or replace "person" in that context with "man" or "woman"

What about talking about a group who are transgender?

most adjectives in English don't change from singular to plural (I say "most" because I can't think of any that do, though there might be some special case that I'm not thinking of)

just pluralize the noun described by the adjective (e.g. "trans people", "trans men", "trans women")

There was a gathering of transgenders people

why do you insist on being willfully obtuse
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Medz2017
08/23/17 8:20:58 PM
#317:


Glass_Phantom posted...
Knowledge_King posted...
Yeah the teacher overstepped her bounds. Especially with children as young as this. She should be fired for not asking for permission.

Nah, she should get teacher of the month. =)

For confusing her students?
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Callixtus
08/23/17 8:52:37 PM
#318:


Sylph posted...
s0nicfan posted...
The Deadpool posted...

There are differences AND similarities. "Boy body with girl brain" is an oversimplification, but not outright incorrect.

Teaching young kids that it is okay to be whatever they are isn't a negative.


But teaching kids that what they are is something they aren't IS a negative. The study doesn't affirm that a mtf kid is a "girl brain in a boy body", but all the reporting on that study implied that was the case. All the study confirms is that a mtf brain is aberrant. I'm not suggesting you teach kids they're a freak or anything, but you don't tell a kid in a wheelchair they're the same as every other kid and then not build any ramps. You tell them that it's okay to be different, because they already know they're different, and then find ways to help them fit into society.

Oh yeah, and we could make the same arguments for left-handed people as well. The thing is, all these things can be taught and adapted to, and they don't have to be a problem. But it does require that people stop taking the existence of trans as this crazy thing to be stamped out, ostracized and litigated into obscurity.

Stop trying to rationalize your dislike of the subject. It is clear that you aren't interested in helping children, you just want to make them intolerant of differences as well.
We should be trying to stamp out transgenderism, however, in a reasonable way.

If there were a pill to cure transgenderism, any rational person should take it. At best, transgenderism results in discomfort with who someone actually is, ie their physical reality. At worse, it leads to a series of procedures by which a whole human being has functional body parts destroyed often resulting in sterility.

We should not be engaging in an ideological project that creates an environment in which borderline individuals may become more susceptible to such processes and extraordinary expenses.
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MangaFan462
08/23/17 10:19:41 PM
#319:


darkjedilink posted...
Lol, 'a child in transition...'

Any parent putting a child through 'transition' needs to have their kids taken away, as they are clearly unfit.

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MangaFan462
08/23/17 11:12:14 PM
#320:


s0nicfan posted...
Dustin1280 posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Earlier you teach kids not to hate the better

Not when they aren't capable of understanding the topic at hand.

It's like trying to teach a kindergartner calculas


More like chemistry. You can't permanently disfigure yourself with calculus if you don't know what you're doing.


Lmao
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CADE FOSTER
08/23/17 11:13:24 PM
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MangaFan462
08/23/17 11:20:53 PM
#322:


Horus_Leftfield posted...
Tmk posted...
Let's not kid ourselves. The reason this is a problem is because a lot of parents either hate transgender people or are too inept to handle comprehending their existence well enough to actually talk about them and get pissy when a school runs the risk of making their kid less of an idiot than they are.


Wow you guys are delusional.

What are you genders btw? They're the same as your sex btw
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Zeeak4444
08/23/17 11:21:59 PM
#323:


MangaFan462 posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Tmk posted...
Let's not kid ourselves. The reason this is a problem is because a lot of parents either hate transgender people or are too inept to handle comprehending their existence well enough to actually talk about them and get pissy when a school runs the risk of making their kid less of an idiot than they are.


Wow you guys are delusional.

What are you genders btw? They're the same as your sex btw


Why... just fucking why dude...
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sktgamer_13dude
08/23/17 11:22:25 PM
#324:


MangaFan462 posted...
Horus_Leftfield posted...
Tmk posted...
Let's not kid ourselves. The reason this is a problem is because a lot of parents either hate transgender people or are too inept to handle comprehending their existence well enough to actually talk about them and get pissy when a school runs the risk of making their kid less of an idiot than they are.


Wow you guys are delusional.

What are you genders btw? They're the same as your sex btw

You're a literal shitposter so no one cares what you think.
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MangaFan462
08/23/17 11:24:03 PM
#325:


Callixtus posted...
Tmk posted...
Callixtus posted...
The reason they're either doing such a thing for children so young is suspect and reeks of indoctrination.

Dude we're talking about making it clear transgender people exist and that's okay so people don't lose their shit over it later in life not some plot to destroy the universe by Reapers.


Sure transgender people exist, and it is "okay", insofar as being okay means that we should not antagonize or vilify those people. But it is a disorder, characterized by behavior that is at odds with reality, and often leads to the destruction of functioning body parts and their substitution by inadequate, aesthetic replacements. We should in no way be promoting transgenderism among the youth, just like we should not be promoting any other harmful disorder that requires expensive and often irreversible medical treatment.


I agree, there's no coming back from chemical treatments or mutilation surgery, hence why the suicide rate from such procedures is so high.
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Dragonblade01
08/23/17 11:25:18 PM
#326:


This all does lead to an important question though:

How much should we trust parents with their own children's education?
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MangaFan462
08/23/17 11:29:03 PM
#327:


Sir Will posted...
Medz2017 posted...
are transracials at odds with reality?

Race is not a mental state.


Tell that to a proud African American or Native American
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MangaFan462
08/23/17 11:35:10 PM
#328:


Callixtus posted...
Tmk posted...
At odds with reality.

Transgender is at odds with reality huh?

Lemme ask you something: what are you? Are you your body, or, are you your brain?

Why is it, if the body and the brain disagree on what the person is, some people think the body takes precedence. Am I talking to hands right now, or, am I talking to a brain, a mind? If you believe in it, a soul?

I choose to tie the definition of a person's gender to something concrete, ie the combination of chromosomes and anatomical expressions, not to unmeasurable subjective evaluations that only muddle what we mean when we say man or woman.


Also very agreeable.

There are definitely differences between actual chromosomal disorders, that would lead to actual physical defects, and mental disorders like dysphorias.
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MangaFan462
08/23/17 11:43:11 PM
#329:


LittleRoyal posted...
What? You can't just pretend emotions trump reality though


True, we really need to raise standards instead of continually lowering them and get people to control their emotions.
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MangaFan462
08/24/17 4:49:35 AM
#330:


Medussa posted...
and if we needed any more proof of TCs intentions, there it is.


What are TC's intentions? To spread awareness of what happened?
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MangaFan462
08/24/17 4:57:37 AM
#331:


Dabrikishaw15 posted...
OpheliaAdenade posted...
One parent said the impact on her son was extremely positive.

"It was so precious to see that he had absolutely no prejudice in his body. My child just went in there and listened to the story, and didn't relate it to anything malicious, or didn't question his own body," she said.


Kindergarteners are barely aware of what shirt theyre made to put on, LOL
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