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scarletspeed7
08/30/17 12:35:41 PM
#201:


Oh hell yes. That means in a couple weeks I can take a Sporcle quiz on the Top 300.
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Jakyl25
08/30/17 12:42:34 PM
#202:


1. Kazuchika Okada
2. AJ Styles
3. Kevin Owens
4. Roman Reigns
5. Kenny Omega
6. Shinsuke Nakamura
7. Dean Ambrose
8. Samoa Joe
9. Bobby Roode
10. The Miz

Based on kayfabe accomplishments
July 1st 2016 through June 30th 2017
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scarletspeed7
08/30/17 12:43:34 PM
#203:


Yeah go my AJ.
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Jakyl25
08/30/17 12:51:52 PM
#204:


Just to note:

Goldberg ineligible. Too few matches

Brock WAS eligible, but results deemed not good enough to be worthy of Top Ten
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voltch
08/30/17 12:54:33 PM
#205:


Omega feels too high.

Winning the G1 shouldn't really be worth so much.
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scarletspeed7
08/30/17 12:59:53 PM
#206:


But he won the presitigious and historic United States Title.
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voltch
08/30/17 1:17:18 PM
#207:


Jakyl25 posted...
through June 30th 2017


The two shows took place on July 1 and 2, 2017, in Long Beach, California,

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scarletspeed7
08/30/17 1:17:47 PM
#208:


Oh, just out of the cutoff.
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CybrMonkey
08/30/17 1:20:10 PM
#209:


Feels like Naito should have snuck into the top 10.
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scarletspeed7
08/30/17 1:20:55 PM
#210:


He was too tranquilo this year.
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voltch
08/30/17 1:22:17 PM
#211:


Kenny won the G1, but he had no NJPW singles titles in that time period.

Elgin won the IC title prior to the G1, Kenny's high profile singles matches after involved beating YOSHI-HASHI, losing to Okada, losing to Ishii, drawing with Okada.

No titles, low profile briefcase defense, title match losses, didn't win the NJ Cup.

This ain't a workrate list.
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Jakyl25
08/30/17 1:31:22 PM
#212:


He worked other companies too though right?
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Jakyl25
08/30/17 8:29:17 PM
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eaedwards6400
08/30/17 8:35:42 PM
#214:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/samoajoe/status/903046960986382336

Legit LOL


Who was bitching?
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Jakyl25
08/30/17 8:42:34 PM
#215:


Presumably some indie geeks
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StealThisSheen
08/30/17 8:57:42 PM
#216:


Interesting tidbit...

Cena tops the list of number of 4*+ matches of current WWE people (Counting only 1 on 1 WWE matches)

He has more 4* against unique opponents than second place has total.
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SmartMuffin
08/30/17 8:58:20 PM
#217:


who IS second?
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StealThisSheen
08/30/17 9:00:22 PM
#218:


Orton.

Top 10 Most 4* + Matches In WWE Today SINGLES ONLY (1 vs. 1) !
John Cena: 32
Randy Orton: 16
Seth Rollins: 14
Brock Lesnar: 12
Kevin Owens: 10
Dean Ambrose: 9
Roman Reigns: 9
Cesaro: 9
AJ Styles: 9
Sami Zayn: 7
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scarletspeed7
08/30/17 9:04:07 PM
#219:


One year. already halfway to second place.

Go AJ.
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Jakyl25
08/30/17 9:07:33 PM
#220:


I assume that counts NXT? I can't see Sami having 7 on the main roster alone, especially not counting multi-man matches
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StealThisSheen
08/30/17 9:09:34 PM
#221:


Yeah, looks like it counts NXT
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TheRock1525
08/30/17 9:53:17 PM
#222:


Man Seth Rollins is only two behind Orton and Orton debuted like a decade before him.
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Lopen
08/30/17 9:54:59 PM
#223:


Keep in mind Dave has absolutely softened on his rating strictness over the years so a 10 year advantage isn't worth as much as you'd think
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JetJaguar
08/30/17 9:59:03 PM
#224:


Jakyl25 posted...
1. Kazuchika Okada
2. AJ Styles
3. Kevin Owens
4. Roman Reigns
5. Kenny Omega
6. Shinsuke Nakamura
7. Dean Ambrose
8. Samoa Joe
9. Bobby Roode
10. The Miz

Based on kayfabe accomplishments
July 1st 2016 through June 30th 2017
Discuss


Why is Nakamura so high?
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Jakyl25
08/30/17 10:24:01 PM
#225:


Won the NXT Title twice

Only three losses were two to Roode and one to Joe, right?
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Jakyl25
08/30/17 10:24:32 PM
#226:


And the MitB match
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SmartMuffin
08/30/17 10:26:34 PM
#227:


Cesaro so high for never being allowed anywhere near a legit title.
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Jakyl25
08/30/17 10:34:33 PM
#228:


Okay according to Cagematch, Nakamura has a total of 7 losses during the timeframe

The four singles matches I mentioned

A tag team loss with No Way Jose to Roode & Joe

A six-man loss with Lorcan and Swann to Sanity

A six-man loss with TM61 to Joe & Authors of Pain

All on NXT house shows
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PrivateBiscuit1
08/31/17 7:42:06 AM
#229:


If it's all kayfabe accomplishments, how is Asuka not top ten?
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JetJaguar
08/31/17 8:13:50 AM
#230:


Jakyl25 posted...
Won the NXT Title twice

Only three losses were two to Roode and one to Joe, right?


Oh...the NXT seems pretty overvalued
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JetJaguar
08/31/17 8:14:57 AM
#231:


Ambrose seems super high too. Was he world champ that recently? Seems like forever ago.
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PrivateBiscuit1
08/31/17 8:33:34 AM
#232:


Oh yeah, the Talk is Jericho with Taya Valkyrie is great btw. She is incredibly sweet and down to earth. She also talks all about how AAA screwed her too.
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NBIceman
08/31/17 9:18:56 AM
#233:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
If it's all kayfabe accomplishments, how is Asuka not top ten?

There's a separate list for women.
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Jakyl25
08/31/17 9:35:38 AM
#234:


JetJaguar posted...
Ambrose seems super high too. Was he world champ that recently? Seems like forever ago.


Started the ranking period as WWE Champion, won the Shield triple threat, defended at Summerslam, also had an IC reign beating #10 The Miz
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Jakyl25
08/31/17 9:40:40 AM
#235:


JetJaguar posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
Won the NXT Title twice

Only three losses were two to Roode and one to Joe, right?


Oh...the NXT seems pretty overvalued


Who else do you put over the NXT Champs though?

There was no other IWGP Champ besides Okada

The WWE/Universal Champs not listed are Balor (long injury), Goldberg (ineligible), Lesnar (barely enough matches to be qualified), Cena (part-timer), Bray (lol), Jinder (lol), and Orton (lost to both of those lols)

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voltch
08/31/17 10:48:14 AM
#236:


So according to this mark ranking

Iwgp hw title >g1 tournament if you are a gaijin> iwgp ic title is worthless
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Jakyl25
08/31/17 11:06:26 AM
#237:


Well it has fallen in stature since it headlined WK8
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voltch
08/31/17 11:28:22 AM
#238:


Where did nakamura rank that year?
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Jakyl25
08/31/17 11:36:56 AM
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voltch
08/31/17 12:18:55 PM
#240:


Nakamura's NXT run is then legitimately the greatest move of his career then.

(It actually is given how much money he's making for going quarter speed)
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ScareChan
08/31/17 5:30:12 PM
#241:


watching the Mae Young

first person to make me really feel they can be on the roster is Rhea Ripley

Martinez seems like a lock too but she didnt make me pause like Ripley did.

some of these girls really lack in chemistry though.Like Evers and her opponent. Just didnt know how to work the match and the crowd. Good begining but it slowed down so quick and its like they were confused
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CeraSeptem
08/31/17 6:26:59 PM
#242:


I liked Rhea a lot
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ScareChan
08/31/17 6:29:14 PM
#243:


I enjoyed Logan vs Yim. They fixed the issueI had earliar about chemistry, but it was pointed out in the match the fought before so thatmakes sense. I kept thinking Logan looks like the perfect loveable jobber, but the more the match went on I was really pulling for her (which I guess is good for a loveable jobber). They both showed a lot of charisma, and I wanted to see the loser's finisher the way she was trying to set it up
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ScareChan
08/31/17 6:30:42 PM
#244:


And the move that won that match I am really not a big fan of, not many people do it in a way where I think it looks good. Like in a real fight sure it can be damaging, but theway it looks for a finisher not so much.Seems like a much better signature as opposed to finisher
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ScareChan
08/31/17 7:26:51 PM
#245:


Dakota Kai > Finn Balor on that one
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ScareChan
08/31/17 7:49:32 PM
#246:


niven and santana was very good
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ScareChan
08/31/17 8:04:58 PM
#247:


More renee michelle please
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Jakyl25
09/01/17 3:57:52 PM
#248:


Wow, the Psycho Clown vs Dr Wagner Jr match drew a 22 RATING in Mexico.

According to Dave, more people watched that match than any match since '80s Saturday Night's Main Event stuff with Hogan.

For fucking AAA of all companies.
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scarletspeed7
09/01/17 3:58:49 PM
#249:


I haven't watched TripleMania yet but I was really looking forward to that match.
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Jakyl25
09/01/17 3:59:40 PM
#250:


Just to be clear, that was the most watched match in the WORLD since the '80s, not just Mexico
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