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Mike_Stanton 08/30/17 1:44:42 AM #1: |
You wish you were capable of hearing ripping solos, complex song structures, and impossibly fast double bass drumming, but you have not sold your soul to Satan in order to appreciate such greatness.
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CelestialVoices 08/30/17 1:45:59 AM #2: |
nah its all like "rawr rawr hail satan" who needs that
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Mike_Stanton 08/30/17 1:50:58 AM #3: |
CelestialVoices posted...
nah its all like "rawr rawr hail satan" nope --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UncleBourbon33 08/30/17 1:52:15 AM #4: |
What genre of metal is Sabaton, because I like that style. Actually sounds like music instead of just growling and screaming.
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LinksLiege 08/30/17 1:53:57 AM #5: |
UncleBourbon33 posted...
Actually sounds like music Oh hey, this non-argument again. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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weapon_d00d816 08/30/17 1:54:41 AM #6: |
UncleBourbon33 posted...
What genre of metal is Sabaton, because I like that style. Actually sounds like music instead of just growling and screaming. Power metal The metal equivalent of Mike's Hard lemonade. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UncleBourbon33 08/30/17 1:55:58 AM #7: |
weapon_d00d816 posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...What genre of metal is Sabaton, because I like that style. Actually sounds like music instead of just growling and screaming. Is that a good or a bad thing? Also helps that they do stuff about history, none of this hail satan crap. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMarthKoopa 08/30/17 1:59:12 AM #8: |
Shitty vocals and it all sounds the same. Just mashing on instruments nonsensically.
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MabusIncarnate 08/30/17 2:01:06 AM #9: |
I fully understand the talent behind it, but the meaning doesn't interest me. I'm more into punk rock, especially the 70's and 80's stuff. I always liked the sound of The Misfits, but the lyrics about horror, and death, and the undead and shit never appealed to me either, although Danzig is one of the most talented artists and vocalists ever.
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weapon_d00d816 08/30/17 2:01:44 AM #10: |
UncleBourbon33 posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...UncleBourbon33 posted...What genre of metal is Sabaton, because I like that style. Actually sounds like music instead of just growling and screaming. That's entirely up to you. To me, that makes it lame. "I don't like the taste of beer but I want to drink alcohol" being similar to "I don't like harsh vocals but I want to listen to metal". It's all a part of the genre. Just soak it in and it grows on you. But you still have to find the good stuff. There's also TONS of bands with historical subject matter and honestly any kind of subject matter you can think of. Satanism is almost entirely restricted to black metal. Nobody else actually does that shit. That's stereotypical "rock and roll is the devil's music!" shit and it's embarrassing anyone under the age of 70 would say that unironically. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 08/30/17 2:12:43 AM #11: |
It's also worth pointing out that 99.9% of the Satanic lyrics aren't written in the name of legitimate Satanism. In fact, practically none of the awful lyrical themes expressed in extreme metal are done seriously. You're a idiot if you think there's a glut of bands actually advocating rape and murder and satan.
There's an inherent performance aspect to it all - they're effectively playing villainous characters. That's it. Once they're off the stage, they're just normal people again. So any time lyrics are brought up as an argument against such music, it makes as much sense as saying "Christopher Lee was a bad person because he was the dark wizard Saruman." It's absurd. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocileOrangeCup 08/30/17 2:13:30 AM #12: |
is tool metal
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MabusIncarnate 08/30/17 2:14:47 AM #13: |
DocileOrangeCup posted...
is tool metal I'd more say alternative metal, somewhere in the middle I guess. --- Ten million dollars on a losing campaign Twenty million starving and writhing in pain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ving_Rhames 08/30/17 2:18:02 AM #14: |
DEATH
DEMONS DESTRUCTION DOMINATIOOON Da na na na na na Da na na na na na na na na --- the real Irving Rameses http://i.imgur.com/A7f6F9h.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UncleBourbon33 08/30/17 2:24:23 AM #15: |
weapon_d00d816 posted...
That's entirely up to you. To me, that makes it lame. "I don't like the taste of beer but I want to drink alcohol" being similar to "I don't like harsh vocals but I want to listen to metal". It's all a part of the genre. Just soak it in and it grows on you. But you still have to find the good stuff. But I still want music though. Not just snarls and screams. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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weapon_d00d816 08/30/17 2:27:28 AM #16: |
UncleBourbon33 posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...That's entirely up to you. To me, that makes it lame. "I don't like the taste of beer but I want to drink alcohol" being similar to "I don't like harsh vocals but I want to listen to metal". It's all a part of the genre. Just soak it in and it grows on you. But you still have to find the good stuff. Great. Luckily there are lots of bands with harsh vocals that play music instead of dissonant noise. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Etherealfare 08/30/17 2:28:32 AM #17: |
weapon_d00d816 posted...
UncleBourbon33 posted...What genre of metal is Sabaton, because I like that style. Actually sounds like music instead of just growling and screaming. lmfao --- No time to freeze undercovers ease up in Grand Prix, and seize packages and pocket the currency - GZA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wolverinev2 08/30/17 2:30:56 AM #18: |
I'm not a fan of bands where the lead singer does nothing but scream the lyrics. Call me old fashioned, but I believe that the lyrics should also be remember and able to be sung back.
Which I say that Iron Maiden is probably my fav band. Heavy metal with music about epic journeys and awesome shit. Though I've heard Mastodon also has songs about epic journeys. I know people have also talked about Eagles of Death Metal, but all I've seen from them is songs about banging chicks. --- It's far better to be alive than to be dead ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpiralDrift 08/30/17 2:38:28 AM #19: |
Heavy > Speed > Death > Thrash > Power > Doom > Black > the rest
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I4NRulez 08/30/17 2:38:58 AM #20: |
I like death metal but its not some masterclass of music like death metal fans think it is.
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Mike_Stanton 08/30/17 9:24:56 PM #21: |
UncleBourbon33 posted...
weapon_d00d816 posted...That's entirely up to you. To me, that makes it lame. "I don't like the taste of beer but I want to drink alcohol" being similar to "I don't like harsh vocals but I want to listen to metal". It's all a part of the genre. Just soak it in and it grows on you. But you still have to find the good stuff. Then listen to death metal. More than enough complex guitar and drum work to satisfy your craving for something that isn't screaming/growling. TheMarthKoopa posted... Shitty vocals and it all sounds the same. Just mashing on instruments nonsensically. If they're just randomly banging on instruments then how is it possible to tab out the songs? How do the solos still manage to sound like solos? --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mike_Stanton 08/30/17 9:25:56 PM #22: |
I4NRulez posted...
I like death metal but its not some masterclass of music like death metal fans think it is Just curious, what kind of death metal does a non-death metal fan listen to? --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMarthKoopa 08/30/17 9:28:48 PM #23: |
Mike_Stanton posted...
If they're just randomly banging on instruments then how is it possible to tab out the songs? How do the solos still manage to sound like solos? I didn't say randomly. I said nonsensically ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 08/30/17 9:29:58 PM #24: |
Mike_Stanton posted...
Just curious, what kind of death metal does a non-death metal fan listen to? Ten bucks says it's Amon Amarth. Not in a bad sense. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mike_Stanton 08/30/17 9:42:10 PM #25: |
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Mike_Stanton posted...If they're just randomly banging on instruments then how is it possible to tab out the songs? How do the solos still manage to sound like solos? What kind of playing constitutes nonsensical playing? Also, can you find some support for the notion that it applies to death metal, from say...a music critic/music scholar? Surely anything scholarly that's been written about death metal must have completely trashed genre, right? LinksLiege posted... Mike_Stanton posted...Just curious, what kind of death metal does a non-death metal fan listen to? Yeah, I'm thinking he likes some melodic/melodeath or some deathcore. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMarthKoopa 08/30/17 9:43:25 PM #26: |
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Deadpool_18 08/30/17 9:43:26 PM #27: |
I dislike death metal because it's too angry for my tastes.
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therin_lews_kin 08/30/17 9:44:06 PM #28: |
this topic reminded me of how weird (and awesome) Portal is
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Mike_Stanton 08/30/17 9:50:43 PM #29: |
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Mike_Stanton posted...What kind of playing constitutes nonsensical playing? Do you just not have any idea what you're talking about which is why you're avoiding anything that asks you to elaborate on, or support your claim? --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chill02 08/30/17 9:51:04 PM #30: |
but I like death metal
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Lathissamus 08/30/17 9:52:58 PM #31: |
I used to love death metal but the genre has become stale. I still listen to other Metal bands, like After The Burial, Acacia Strain, etc., though.
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LinksLiege 08/30/17 9:55:18 PM #32: |
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Do you not understand the definition of nonsensical or something? From Dictionary.com 1. (of words or language) having little or no meaning; making little or no sense: The music isn't senseless by any means. It has purpose, logic, and meaning. The fact that you can't keep up with what's going on is a reflection on you, not the music. 2. (of behavior, conduct, actions, etc.) foolish, senseless, fatuous, or absurd: See #1. 3. objectionable, impudent, insubordinate: Irrelevant. 4. of trifling importance or of little or no use: Only by any definition that would apply to all music ever. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadowplay 08/30/17 9:56:48 PM #33: |
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Shitty vocals and it all sounds the same. Just mashing on instruments nonsensically. Marth nailed it --- I make a topic in Final Fantasy 12 to ask if Tifa! They said no Tifa. Hardness gone!-gandob ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mikablu 08/30/17 9:58:59 PM #34: |
Nope. I just don't like screamo.
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CelestialVoices 08/30/17 10:34:30 PM #35: |
Just curious, what kind of death metal does a non-death metal fan listen to?
there's only a handful of albums ive gotten into akercocke artificial brain atheist some death mostly the 90s stuff sculptured demilich arsis - a celebration of guilt gorod at the gates - red in the sky / slaughter etc anata - infernal depths of hatred some of them more recently / frequently (mostly the first few), some i havent listened to in years but like a lot back in the day there's a few others but im lazy --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CircleOfManias 08/30/17 10:37:14 PM #36: |
Ving_Rhames posted...
DEATH Actual death metal lyrics are more like this. I'm not cherry-picking, this is very typical of the genre. There is a mask That covers up one's true intentions Once removed, things become very clear Analyze behavior patterns to see beneath The person that is presented to you Vulnerable through trust Life is a twisted maze of obstacles Presented by people with a secret face What's on the outside Is not always all that is real Live by caution, what I feel When things are reversed People are shown for what they are The truth is revealed Banish the false Pacifying moments with an acquired disguise to obtain The things they want By the anguish of someone else Materialistic motives are fulfilled Cherish the true Vulnerable through trust Life is a twisted maze of obstacles Presented by people with a secret face --- Sick liaisons raise this monumental mark The sun sets forever over Blackwater Park ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LinksLiege 08/30/17 10:47:45 PM #37: |
CelestialVoices posted...
artificial brain Good taste. --- This is LinksLiege's signature. It is fantastic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BootyGif 08/30/17 10:49:13 PM #38: |
dudes screaming into the mic is stupid. other metal is pretty good tho.
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Hinakuluiau 08/30/17 10:53:08 PM #39: |
CircleOfManias posted...
Actual death metal lyrics are more like this. I'm not cherry-picking, this is very typical of the genre. So basically /r/im14andthisisdeep --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD http://error1355.com/ce/Hinakuluiau.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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soulunison2 08/30/17 10:59:18 PM #40: |
TC what is your opinion of rap?
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Etherealfare 08/30/17 11:04:40 PM #41: |
Meow
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FL81 08/30/17 11:05:16 PM #42: |
High Tier:
Speed Metal Traditional Heavy Metal Power Metal Mid Tier (either good or really bad): Prog Metal Thrash Metal Doom Metal Low Tier: Black Metal Death Metal Bottom Tier: Nu Metal Metalcore --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta X 08/30/17 11:11:21 PM #43: |
I was at the local band bar one day and I swore that death metal ban literally summoned a little imp like creature with wings.
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Mike_Stanton 08/31/17 3:47:13 PM #44: |
CelestialVoices posted...
Just curious, what kind of death metal does a non-death metal fan listen to? Pretty good taste. Although I never really got into Akercocke, and I've never heard Sculptured or Artificial Brain. Hinakuluiau posted... So basically /r/im14andthisisdeep Death metal lyrics are admittedly only at their best when they play to their strength; talking about Satan/Anti-Christianity. Here's a better example... Death He Lied! To the most high, above all They cower in his might But now, in his nakedness and shame He falls... Fallen King... to endure Ceaseless pain...world is dead Mighty God..pulling down The heavens divide, revealing a light From out of the sky, their savior appears The figure adorned in wonder and brilliance Plummeting down, falling to earth In horror they watch, it was all just a lie. As light turns to black, devours their hope... and faith. Mighty God...pulling down Casting down... everything high And bringing you... towards earth Cold darkness, swallows life Heavens promise, stolen light Now to suffer with their fallen Christ Blood to dust, flesh to dirt To the earth, they lie Light of God, never seen To the most high, from below They cower in his might But now in triumphant glory Rejoice the fall of God Towards Earth Mighty God...pulling down Casting down...everything high And bringing you...towards earth Mighty God...consume the light Casting down...your pathetic Christ And bringing them...towards Hell soulunison2 posted... TC what is your opinion of rap? I love hip hop, but like most genres, I hate most of the mainstream stuff. Old school hip hop like Mobb Deep, Wu-Tang Clan, and Cypress Hill is great. As is the underground modern hip hop like Tyler the Creator. --- RIP Butters_1188 2005-2009 Prove me wrong ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pogo_Marimo 08/31/17 4:04:00 PM #45: |
I tend to enjoy heavy metal and doom, and even some technical stuff, but death and power metal tend to be a bit excessive and shallow. What's the point of singing about stuff if it doesn't really relate to anyone? What's the point if it's so cartoonish or grotesque as to enter cliched absurdity? What's the point of these hyper-technical solos if you drown out the excellence or emphasis in such overpowered dynamics? Even the lows in a song feel manufactured and predictable instead of delivering a deeper musical perspective for the listener. It feels like complexity at the expense of diversity and abrasiveness at the expense of sincerity.
It's like a movie that's nothing but action scenes. No character development, no themes, no archetypes, no progression, no pacing, and no dynamics. Bleh. --- // BEAUTY IS NOT LOVE - LOVE IS NOT MUSIC - MUSIC IS THE BEST - WISDOM IS THE DOMAIN OF THE WIZ--WHICH IS EXTINCT // http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 08/31/17 4:08:40 PM #46: |
TheMarthKoopa posted...
Shitty vocals and it all sounds the same. Just mashing on instruments nonsensically. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chaze_the_chat 08/31/17 4:09:40 PM #47: |
Real talk: Hearing the difference now isn’t the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is ‘lossy’. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA – it’s about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don’t want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.
I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did. --- Whom is BuggyBoy8? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 08/31/17 4:10:38 PM #48: |
I don't dislike it, but I find incoherent screaming annoying. Coherent screaming is fine. Coherent non-screaming is better.
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weapon_d00d816 08/31/17 4:11:54 PM #49: |
Pogo_Marimo posted...
I tend to enjoy heavy metal and doom, and even some technical stuff, but death and power metal tend to be a bit excessive and shallow. What's the point of singing about stuff if it doesn't really relate to anyone? What's the point if it's so cartoonish or grotesque as to enter cliched absurdity? What's the point of these hyper-technical solos if you drown out the excellence or emphasis in such overpowered dynamics? Even the lows in a song feel manufactured and predictable instead of delivering a deeper musical perspective for the listener. It feels like complexity at the expense of diversity and abrasiveness at the expense of sincerity. That doesn't apply to any of the bands I listen to. You really just have to find the good stuff, said time and time again. As for lyrical themes, extreme metal usually isn't about a message. Lyrics provide aesthetics and atmosphere. They aim to do something completely different so I wouldn't call them "lacking". --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EverDownward 08/31/17 4:13:08 PM #50: |
Nah, I like death metal.
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