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FLUFFYGERM 09/06/17 1:15:14 PM #156: |
That_Happened posted...
Dragonblade01 posted...If you agree with me then why did you take issue with my post in the first place? intimidating someone is a crime? so are antifa criminals for intimidating people? edit: color me surprised, it is in fact a misdemeanor. didn't know that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:16:41 PM #157: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
intimidating someone is a crime? so are antifa criminals for intimidating people? Holy fuck the whataboutism in this topic. This is the 3rd time I will be posting this: Post #53 That_Happened posted... You have a situation where people are literally carrying weapons and threatening your life based on your skin color or religion. Sorry, but you do not become a shittier person than them just because you attack before they do. That, too, is self defense. For the record, if you want to punch an Antifa member who is holding a brick, feel free. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 09/06/17 1:17:57 PM #158: |
That_Happened posted...
Because you suggested that "if someone commits a crime they should be punished for the crime" which seemed to suggest that punching them was wrong. But if that crime is intimidation, I don't think someone should wait for the police to come and sort it out. If someone needs to defend themselves then I don't care, and also I don't think it makes that person somehow "worse" than a nazi. Let's be clear here: if someone is threatening you with imminent violence, it's justified to defend yourself. If someone is just standing there being a Nazi/Communist/Patriots fan, it is not ok to assault them. Clear? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopMcgee420 09/06/17 1:18:12 PM #159: |
That_Happened posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...intimidating someone is a crime? so are antifa criminals for intimidating people? You did the same to me tho --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 09/06/17 1:19:34 PM #160: |
That_Happened posted...
Holy f*** the whataboutism in this topic. This is the 3rd time I will be posting this: i ain't reading this entire topic or all of your posts, broseph. ain't nobody got time for that shit ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:21:06 PM #161: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Let's be clear here: if someone is threatening you with imminent violence, it's on top defend yourself. 1. Marching through town with torches and weapons and threatening people is not "standing there being a Nazi." They're making a threat and legally you have every right to punch someone like that who is threatening you. 2. Standing around being a Nazi and shouting your hateful beliefs of how people of other colors and religions will be eliminated is intimidation. Legally you have every right to punch someone like that. 3. If you are a Patriots fan you should probably be punched, but it's not legal. 4. If you are protesting the removal of a statue and aren't threatening anyone, and someone mistakes you for a Nazi and hits you, that's awful and illegal. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:21:26 PM #162: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
That_Happened posted...Holy f*** the whataboutism in this topic. This is the 3rd time I will be posting this: "I want to speak but I don't have to listen." - America, 2017. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/06/17 1:21:40 PM #163: |
Mal_Fet posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...That_Happened posted...If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree. So yes we can punch people in situations like in Charlottesville? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopMcgee420 09/06/17 1:23:01 PM #164: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...That_Happened posted...If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree. Ya you can definitely punch the antifa members that were there --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/06/17 1:23:46 PM #165: |
Also lol at Admirals earlier "If you punch someone who believes in the genocide of other people, you are worse than are." You know, because morality always aligns with legality. I guess that means minor drug offenders are shittier people than law-abiding white supremacists.
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:24:34 PM #166: |
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Literally both sides. Its why both extreme sides are pathetic PoopMcgee420 posted... hockeybub89 posted...So yes we can punch people in situations like in Charlottesville? Haha hypocrite. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/06/17 1:24:41 PM #167: |
PoopMcgee420 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...That_Happened posted...If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree. Many sides --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 09/06/17 1:24:50 PM #168: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...That_Happened posted...If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree. Where violent leftists instigate a riot by illegally assembling? Yes. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordRazziel 09/06/17 1:25:42 PM #169: |
Mal_Fet posted...
That_Happened posted...Because you suggested that "if someone commits a crime they should be punished for the crime" which seemed to suggest that punching them was wrong. But if that crime is intimidation, I don't think someone should wait for the police to come and sort it out. If someone needs to defend themselves then I don't care, and also I don't think it makes that person somehow "worse" than a nazi. From Mal's OP. I see no reason why we shouldn't be allowed to punch commies and get them out of our streets so they can't spread their dangerous rhetoric. Who's with me? --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gatorsPENSbucs 09/06/17 1:25:57 PM #170: |
It's never okay to punch somebody. But people think it is and that's what continues to fuck this country up.
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Mal_Fet 09/06/17 1:26:18 PM #171: |
That_Happened posted...
1. Marching through town with torches and weapons and threatening people is not "standing there being a Nazi." They're making a threat and legally you have every right to punch someone like that who is threatening you. So by this logic, when Antifa is marching down the streets chanting about how cops are evil and that they will start a" revolution" against capitalism, violence against all of them is ok since they are making threats and intimidating people, correct? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:26:20 PM #172: |
darkjedilink posted...
Where violent leftists instigate a riot Remember when you were proven wrong about this, and you still defended the white nationalists? Pepperidge Farm remembers. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/06/17 1:26:36 PM #173: |
darkjedilink posted...
hockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...hockeybub89 posted...Mal_Fet posted...That_Happened posted...If we're talking about punching a guy holding a weapon and screaming in your face about how you should be eliminated, I disagree. A small portion of counter protesters that identify as Antifa got violent in response to a violent protest, yes. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prettyprincess 09/06/17 1:27:40 PM #174: |
j/w but when you hit post topic what was the end goal and how did you see it coming to fruition?
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:27:49 PM #175: |
Mal_Fet posted...
That_Happened posted...1. Marching through town with torches and weapons and threatening people is not "standing there being a Nazi." They're making a threat and legally you have every right to punch someone like that who is threatening you. That_Happened posted... Holy fuck the whataboutism in this topic. This is the 4th time I will be posting this: --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 09/06/17 1:29:17 PM #176: |
LordRazziel posted...
From Mal's OP. Woooosh. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopMcgee420 09/06/17 1:31:44 PM #177: |
That_Happened posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...Literally both sides. Its why both extreme sides are pathetic @That_Happened how does that make me a hypocrite? --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 09/06/17 1:34:12 PM #178: |
That_Happened posted...
Holy fuck the whataboutism in this topic. This is the 4th time I will be posting this: I don't know why you keep posting this since the entire point of this topic is to illustrate how the "punch all Nazis" logic falls apart once you think about it critically and apply it to other groups. Let's stick to the Nazis carrying torches: Would you say someone would be justified if they drove a car through them? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:36:34 PM #179: |
Mal_Fet posted...
I don't know why you keep posting this since the entire point of this topic is to illustrate how the "punch all Nazis" logic falls apart once you think about it critically and apply it to other groups. I just agreed with you that Antifa are intimidating people and if you want to punch them then feel free. So how did the logic "fall apart" exactly? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 09/06/17 1:37:55 PM #180: |
That_Happened posted...
Mal_Fet posted...I don't know why you keep posting this since the entire point of this topic is to illustrate how the "punch all Nazis" logic falls apart once you think about it critically and apply it to other groups. Let's find out. Answer my question, please. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordRazziel 09/06/17 1:40:20 PM #181: |
Mal_Fet posted...
LordRazziel posted...From Mal's OP. I think you did mean you should be able to punch them. Otherwise, your post would have read like a call to rise up. If you actually wanted to discuss the issue, it would be beifical to not try and provoke. From what I can see, you just come here for "libtears". --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopMcgee420 09/06/17 1:41:07 PM #182: |
Mal_Fet posted...
That_Happened posted...Mal_Fet posted...I don't know why you keep posting this since the entire point of this topic is to illustrate how the "punch all Nazis" logic falls apart once you think about it critically and apply it to other groups. He doesnt answer questions --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:43:53 PM #183: |
Mal_Fet posted...
Let's find out. Answer my question, please. I'd much rather you answer mine. Especially since I asked first. PoopMcgee420 posted... @That_Happened how does that make me a hypocrite? You say that only the left has trouble calling out their whackos, yet you can't bring yourself to sack up and call out the Nazis for their part in this--at least not without saying "whatabout Antifa?" or "whatabout BLM?" Meanwhile, I've posted FOUR times that Antifa are pieces of shit and if you want to attack them for intimidating you then feel free. Also note this is the 2nd time you've been correctly called a hypocrite in this topic, and the last time you ran from it too. PoopMcgee420 posted... The Great Muta 22 posted..."ALL LEFTISTS CALL US RACISTS/BIGOTS/SEXISTS WHENEVER YOU DISAGREE WITH THEM ABOUT ANYTHING!" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:45:30 PM #184: |
LordRazziel posted...
If you actually wanted to discuss the issue, it would be beifical to not try and provoke. From what I can see, you just come here for "libtears". And that's really the thing that worries most people like Mal_Fet. They hate the idea that if they take their trolling to the streets that someone's gonna beat the fuck out of them. So they yell "that's illegal!" as if it put them on a higher moral ground. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopMcgee420 09/06/17 1:45:36 PM #185: |
That_Happened posted...
Mal_Fet posted...Let's find out. Answer my question, please. Again...This is the SECOND time im telling YOU. My first post was me saying im all for punching nazis...ive also said numerous times. Thanks for trying tho And i didnt run from it. I straight up said that its not an equal comparison at all. --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 09/06/17 1:46:53 PM #186: |
LordRazziel posted...
Mal_Fet posted...LordRazziel posted...From Mal's OP. Yes. I am literally calling for violence against kids who think Communism is a good idea --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 09/06/17 1:46:58 PM #187: |
That_Happened posted...
Mal_Fet posted...That_Happened posted...1. Marching through town with torches and weapons and threatening people is not "standing there being a Nazi." They're making a threat and legally you have every right to punch someone like that who is threatening you. You realize whataboutism is your entire argument in this topic, right? These neo-Nazis haven't actually committed genocide or mass atrocities at all, you argument is what about the actual Nazis in WW2 who did, which, as has also been pointed out, is not the same group. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:48:12 PM #188: |
PoopMcgee420 posted...
My first post was me saying im all for punching nazis...ive also said numerous times. Read the post, boy: Happened_That posted... you can't bring yourself to sack up and call out the Nazis for their part in this--at least not without saying "whatabout Antifa?" or "whatabout BLM?" And what was your first post in the topic? PoopMcgee420 posted... Agreed. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 09/06/17 1:50:25 PM #189: |
Daily reminder that it's not right to punch anybody, unless responding to the initiation of similar physical violence.
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:50:41 PM #190: |
The Admiral posted...
These neo-Nazis haven't actually committed genocide or mass atrocities at all, It is their goal to, it is their ideology, and they are trying to gain numbers to make it possible. That's all that matters. Whether they are WW2 era Nazis is entirely irrelevant. And that's been explained to you. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 09/06/17 1:51:18 PM #191: |
That_Happened posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...intimidating someone is a crime? so are antifa criminals for intimidating people? Except they're literally carrying weapons because idiots are literally going around punching them and initiating other forms of violence. You're creating a cycle of violence. --- (\/)(\/)|-| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 09/06/17 1:51:55 PM #192: |
That_Happened posted...
I'd much rather you answer mine. Especially since I asked first. What question --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:54:05 PM #193: |
Zeus posted...
Except they're literally carrying weapons because idiots are going around punching them. And people are punching them because the ideology they harbor is "I'm going to fucking eliminate you and your family." How socially inept do you have to be not to understand that when you march around and scream at people that you're going to harm or kill them, that you should expect that people will take the first swing before you get the chance? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 09/06/17 1:55:48 PM #194: |
That_Happened posted...
And people are punching them because the ideology they harbor is "I'm going to fucking eliminate you and your family." So if someone has a reprehensible ideology, they should be assaulted. Is that correct? --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopMcgee420 09/06/17 1:56:15 PM #195: |
That_Happened posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...My first post was me saying im all for punching nazis...ive also said numerous times. Thanks for proving my point that i did point out that punching a nazi is good --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:56:45 PM #196: |
Mal_Fet posted...
That_Happened posted...And people are punching them because the ideology they harbor is "I'm going to fucking eliminate you and your family." If someone has an ideology based on intimidation and threats of bodily harm, then people have a right to defend themselves. I've said this repeatedly and you keep trying to slightly change the words--likely to pull up some bullshit example that doesn't fit. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 09/06/17 1:57:41 PM #197: |
Zeus posted...
That_Happened posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...intimidating someone is a crime? so are antifa criminals for intimidating people? So every time these hateful shitheads get brave in America, it's because there is some group of leftists trying to beat then up? I think the easier explanation is they are just hateful shitheads that get angry when they feel the white man is losing some battle. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 1:58:54 PM #198: |
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Thanks for proving my point that i did point out that punching a nazi is good Ah but my point was: Happened_That posted... not without saying "whatabout Antifa?" or "whatabout BLM?" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 09/06/17 1:59:14 PM #199: |
That_Happened posted...
The Admiral posted...These neo-Nazis haven't actually committed genocide or mass atrocities at all, Admiral: These people haven't committed atrocities That_Happened: But what about the WW2 Nazis that did!! You're doing the same thing you're accusing everyone else of doing. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopMcgee420 09/06/17 2:01:05 PM #200: |
That_Happened posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...Thanks for proving my point that i did point out that punching a nazi is good Actually you were calling me a hypocrite. Now youre saying something different. Dont move goalposts. --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 2:02:15 PM #201: |
The Admiral posted...
That_Happened posted...The Admiral posted...These neo-Nazis haven't actually committed genocide or mass atrocities at all, Fix'd it for you. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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That_Happened 09/06/17 2:04:41 PM #202: |
PoopMcgee420 posted...
Actually you were calling me a hypocrite. No, I'm still calling you a hypocrite. My argument has not changed. You're a hypocrite because you say only the left doesn't call out their whackos, but here you are unable to call out the Nazis alone without pivoting to "whatabout antifa" and "whatabout blm?" You're really struggling with this discussion. Are you ok? Not able to keep up? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mal_Fet 09/06/17 2:05:47 PM #203: |
That_Happened posted...
Mal_Fet posted...That_Happened posted...And people are punching them because the ideology they harbor is "I'm going to fucking eliminate you and your family." How don't Communists fit? They also have an ideology that results in a lot of innocent people dying, right? So we should be able to punch them whether or not they're holding a brick or some other weapon, surely. --- Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. -George Orwell ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopMcgee420 09/06/17 2:06:40 PM #204: |
That_Happened posted...
PoopMcgee420 posted...Actually you were calling me a hypocrite. But i am able to call out the right. See i would be a hypocrite if i said "only the left doesnt call out their wackos without bringing up the far right" But i didnt say that. Stop trying to pull a "gotcha" card on me. It wont work --- "Larry Brown has never won a championship." - bond21 Trump is my president. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YuriSakazaki0 09/06/17 2:07:08 PM #205: |
sure why not
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