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Vlado 09/21/17 4:34:12 PM #151:	https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/breaking-crowdstrike-payments-coincide-with-deaths-of-seth-rich-shawn-lucas/ Nothing conclusive yet, but the coincidences sure keep mounting... --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:887030986] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/breaking-crowdstrike-payments-coincide-with-deaths-of-seth-rich-shawn-lucas/ Nothing conclusive yet, but the coincidences sure keep mounting...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MoogleKupo141 09/21/17 4:35:36 PM #152:	band of mercenaries is as far removed from nationalism as is possibly imaginable. they're not mercenaries, they're nationalists for a nation they haven't been able to establish yet --- For your BK_Sheikah00. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza <cite>MoogleKupo141 posted [p:887031071] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><quote>band of mercenaries is as far removed from nationalism as is possibly imaginable.</quote> they're not mercenaries, they're nationalists for a nation they haven't been able to establish yet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 09/21/17 4:44:55 PM #153:	Don't make me laugh. They're rootless mercenaries fighting for money (and some for their faith, I suppose). --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:887031581] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>Don't make me laugh. They're rootless mercenaries fighting for money (and some for their faith, I suppose).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/21/17 4:52:08 PM #154:	Vlado posted... https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/breaking-crowdstrike-payments-coincide-with-deaths-of-seth-rich-shawn-lucas/ Nothing conclusive yet, but the coincidences sure keep mounting... https://af-mg.com/ https://www.americafirstmg.com/ They can get this information, but they can't make a decent website after two attempts? Also, conveniently, right after releasing this "dirt," they're asking people to donate $10,000. You know. 'Cuz they need $10,000 for their Google searches and horribly done Wordpress sites. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:887032008] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/breaking-crowdstrike-payments-coincide-with-deaths-of-seth-rich-shawn-lucas/ Nothing conclusive yet, but the coincidences sure keep mounting...</quote> https://af-mg.com/ https://www.americafirstmg.com/ They can get this information, but they can't make a decent website after two attempts? Also, conveniently, right after releasing this "dirt," they're asking people to donate $10,000. You know. 'Cuz they need $10,000 for their Google searches and horribly done Wordpress sites.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/21/17 4:57:42 PM #155:	Mr Lasastryke posted... define "hyper-capitalism"? Moreso than the US --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887032338] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>define "hyper-capitalism"?</quote> Moreso than the US</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/21/17 5:03:44 PM #156:	Vlado posted... It's funny you're "appropriating" nationalist memes. Only goes to show that we are intellectually superior and you need to "borrow" from us. Oh that's an interesting approach. Apparently for some reason I am totally aware of all the dumb shit nationalists jerk either off with each day, and when I say something similar, obviously I am stealing from them. Occam's Razor strikes again. That being said, I don't know why it's such a popular and highly intellectual nationalist meme that nationalism is an abject failure in all its real world examples AND in theory, just like socialism. Shouldn't they want to defend nationalism instead of shit on it? Oh well, nationalists have been known to cut their fingers on Occam's Razor quite often. And their throats. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887032631] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny you're "appropriating" nationalist memes. Only goes to show that we are intellectually superior and you need to "borrow" from us.</quote> Oh that's an interesting approach. Apparently for some reason I am totally aware of all the dumb shit nationalists jerk either off with each day, and when I say something similar, obviously I am stealing from them. Occam's Razor strikes again. That being said, I don't know why it's such a popular and highly intellectual nationalist meme that nationalism is an abject failure in all its real world examples AND in theory, just like socialism. Shouldn't they want to defend nationalism instead of shit on it? Oh well, nationalists have been known to cut their fingers on Occam's Razor quite often. And their throats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 09/21/17 5:04:32 PM #157:	Vlado posted... It's not about superiority. Vlado posted... Only goes to show that we are intellectually superior and you need to "borrow" from us. Sorry, I couldn't help seeing this train wreck --- E come vivo? Vivo! "nice job. that's a very board 8-ish thing to do - aggressive laziness followed by unusual persistence" -transience <cite>trdl23 posted [p:887032675] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>It's not about superiority.</quote> <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Only goes to show that we are intellectually superior and you need to "borrow" from us.</quote> Sorry, I couldn't help seeing this train wreck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/21/17 5:04:53 PM #158:	Mr Lasastryke posted... (otherwise you'd be getting into communist territory) Well communism can implement socialism and is often the best way to do so, no? --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887032691] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>(otherwise you'd be getting into communist territory)</quote> Well communism can implement socialism and is often the best way to do so, no?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 09/21/17 5:06:17 PM #159:	foolm0r0n posted... Oh well, nationalists have been known to cut their fingers on Occam's Razor quite often. And their throats. Holy hell, that's spicy. --- E come vivo? Vivo! "nice job. that's a very board 8-ish thing to do - aggressive laziness followed by unusual persistence" -transience <cite>trdl23 posted [p:887032774] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Oh well, nationalists have been known to cut their fingers on Occam's Razor quite often. And their throats.</quote> Holy hell, that's spicy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 09/21/17 5:09:02 PM #160:	foolm0r0n posted... Moreso than the US the US government isn't totalitarian to its people. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:887032922] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Moreso than the US</quote> the US government isn't totalitarian to its people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 09/21/17 5:10:37 PM #161:	foolm0r0n posted... That being said, I don't know why it's such a popular and highly intellectual nationalist meme that nationalism is an abject failure in all its real world examples AND in theory, just like socialism. how is socialism "an abject failure in theory"? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:887033010] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>That being said, I don't know why it's such a popular and highly intellectual nationalist meme that nationalism is an abject failure in all its real world examples AND in theory, just like socialism.</quote> how is socialism "an abject failure in theory"?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaziken 09/21/17 6:38:50 PM #162:	Vlado posted... https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/breaking-crowdstrike-payments-coincide-with-deaths-of-seth-rich-shawn-lucas/ Nothing conclusive yet, but the coincidences sure keep mounting... 1. Yet you're unwilling to believe that Don Trump Jr. meeting with a Russian official MAYBE has something to do with election collusion. Okay. 2. I actually went through and read the article, and the, as SEP noted, weak-ass source that it's talking about. And, given that you have a habit of posting unverified bullshit as fact, I did a little digging to see how much validity this new "coincidence" has. So, I went to the fec website, which the secondary source cites as the source of its data (without actually linking to the data itself so that a reader might be able to view it themselves.) You wanna know what I found? This is the list of all expenses paid by the DNC to Crowdstrike over the course of 2015 and 2016: http://tinyurl.com/yaxns5uf I've Tinyurl'D it because it's fucking long. But yeah, you'll note that the list of purchases detailed is a lot longer than the list of five that the secondary source posts as a fucking IMAGE file. Now, I get excluding stuff like travel, catering, office supplies, etc. Those are small amounts and look harmless. But the fact is that the data they're posting is cherry-picked. They highlight a pair of large amounts that correspond with the days after a pair of deaths related to the DNC. The implication there, because I legitimately cannot understand any reason why payments to Crowdstrike would fucking matter otherwise, is that Crowdstrike is somehow connected to the "assassinations". Which is kinda stupid because the source already praised Crowdstrike and their SOFTWARE in the fourth paragraph, but whatever. But the other problem with cherrypicking is that it removes context. Scroll down to the bottom of that page. In the bottom left corner there's a disclaimer from the FEC that the disbursement dates are reporter periodically, according to the filer's schedule. The thing about that is that it throws into question the narrative of "oh look, Seth Rich died July 10th and there's a massive payment on July 11th!" There's no actual proof of the exact date that payment was made. It just conveniently fits a conspiracy narrative. More than that though, note that large nearly $100,000 payment that the source cites. Looking at the data in context, you'll notice that there's a second payment on July 11th that they don't mention. 500 dollars for subscription services. Go back to the May 5th data where the source highlights the initial payments for purchasing of services. You'll note that on that same day, a grand total of SIX payments are record, four of which are completely innocuous. The point is that looking at the data in context, it paints a much less sinister picture. The disbursement dates listed on the FEC website are not necessarily exact payment dates, but rather the dates when payments were collectively reported. Hell, even in the secondary source's own words, they cite two payments both made on August 3rd. Again, a large organization that incurs a lot of bills is going to pay them when they get to them, often times receiving several different bills from a single company at once, for multiple different services rendered at different times (it's cost effective for the company to send out as little mail as possible, so they're better off sending multiple invoices at once, rather than one invoice for every transaction). That's my fucking JOB. I process bills for the agency where I work. And sometimes we get a lot of bills in at once, and I pay them all at once. It's not that all the services rendered took place on the dates the check was sent out. That's just the date I was able to pay the fucking bill. --- Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting. http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif <cite>Blaziken posted [p:887038232] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/breaking-crowdstrike-payments-coincide-with-deaths-of-seth-rich-shawn-lucas/ Nothing conclusive yet, but the coincidences sure keep mounting...</quote> 1. Yet you're unwilling to believe that Don Trump Jr. meeting with a Russian official MAYBE has something to do with election collusion. Okay. 2. I actually went through and read the article, and the, as SEP noted, weak-ass source that it's talking about. And, given that you have a habit of posting unverified bullshit as fact, I did a little digging to see how much validity this new "coincidence" has. So, I went to the fec website, which the secondary source cites as the source of its data (without actually linking to the data itself so that a reader might be able to view it themselves.) You wanna know what I found? This is the list of all expenses paid by the DNC to Crowdstrike over the course of 2015 and 2016: http://tinyurl.com/yaxns5uf I've Tinyurl'D it because it's fucking long. But yeah, you'll note that the list of purchases detailed is a lot longer than the list of five that the secondary source posts as a fucking IMAGE file. Now, I get excluding stuff like travel, catering, office supplies, etc. Those are small amounts and look harmless. But the fact is that the data they're posting is cherry-picked. They highlight a pair of large amounts that correspond with the days after a pair of deaths related to the DNC. The implication there, because I legitimately cannot understand any reason why payments to Crowdstrike would fucking matter otherwise, is that Crowdstrike is somehow connected to the "assassinations". Which is kinda stupid because the source already praised Crowdstrike and their SOFTWARE in the fourth paragraph, but whatever. But the other problem with cherrypicking is that it removes context. Scroll down to the bottom of that page. In the bottom left corner there's a disclaimer from the FEC that the disbursement dates are reporter periodically, according to the filer's schedule. The thing about that is that it throws into question the narrative of "oh look, Seth Rich died July 10th and there's a massive payment on July 11th!" There's no actual proof of the exact date that payment was made. It just conveniently fits a conspiracy narrative. More than that though, note that large nearly $100,000 payment that the source cites. Looking at the data in context, you'll notice that there's a second payment on July 11th that they don't mention. 500 dollars for subscription services. Go back to the May 5th data where the source highlights the initial payments for purchasing of services. You'll note that on that same day, a grand total of SIX payments are record, four of which are completely innocuous. The point is that looking at the data in context, it paints a much less sinister picture. The disbursement dates listed on the FEC website are not necessarily exact payment dates, but rather the dates when payments were collectively reported. Hell, even in the secondary source's own words, they cite two payments both made on August 3rd. Again, a large organization that incurs a lot of bills is going to pay them when they get to them, often times receiving several different bills from a single company at once, for multiple different services rendered at different times (it's cost effective for the company to send out as little mail as possible, so they're better off sending multiple invoices at once, rather than one invoice for every transaction). That's my fucking JOB. I process bills for the agency where I work. And sometimes we get a lot of bills in at once, and I pay them all at once. It's not that all the services rendered took place on the dates the check was sent out. That's just the date I was able to pay the fucking bill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blaziken 09/21/17 6:38:54 PM #163:	So yeah, the secondary source is full of shit, cherry picks and omits information, doesn't provide a source other than saying "go to www.fec.gov, it's all there." Not even a link, just a web address. To the overall website, not the specific data set they used. That tells me that they want the appearance of validity without the data to back up their claims. They want people to say "look, the data's all there!" but make it JUST difficult enough to replicate their results that your average reader won't put in the leg work to verify their information. The primary source just parrots the secondary source and draws sweeping conclusions based on the frankly threadbare article provided by their secondary source. I mean, it makes a big deal out of the independent clause "and close friend of Seth Rich" that isn't even elaborated upon. You'd think Shawn Lucas would've gotten more recognition by the Seth Rich truthers before now, yet I haven't heard of him in your rambling conspiracy theories until this article. Basically, once again you're posting misleading information as fact without doing the bare minimum to back up your beliefs. Like the baaing sheep you are. --- Inviso thinks all starters should be Fire/Fighting. http://i.imgur.com/oOSm64C.gif <cite>Blaziken posted [p:887038236] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>So yeah, the secondary source is full of shit, cherry picks and omits information, doesn't provide a source other than saying "go to www.fec.gov, it's all there." Not even a link, just a web address. To the overall website, not the specific data set they used. That tells me that they want the appearance of validity without the data to back up their claims. They want people to say "look, the data's all there!" but make it JUST difficult enough to replicate their results that your average reader won't put in the leg work to verify their information. The primary source just parrots the secondary source and draws sweeping conclusions based on the frankly threadbare article provided by their secondary source. I mean, it makes a big deal out of the independent clause "and close friend of Seth Rich" that isn't even elaborated upon. You'd think Shawn Lucas would've gotten more recognition by the Seth Rich truthers before now, yet I haven't heard of him in your rambling conspiracy theories until this article. Basically, once again you're posting misleading information as fact without doing the bare minimum to back up your beliefs. Like the baaing sheep you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/21/17 7:06:27 PM #164:	Mr Lasastryke posted... how is socialism "an abject failure in theory"? I mean that's what the first like 20 freedom topics were about, during the 2012 election era --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887039716] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>how is socialism "an abject failure in theory"?</quote> I mean that's what the first like 20 freedom topics were about, during the 2012 election era</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 09/21/17 7:09:06 PM #165:	i remember the first 20 freedom topics mostly being muffin posting links to news stories about bullshit like "LOL THE GOVERNMENT BANNED A LITTLE GIRL'S LEMONADE STAND." not much has changed in all those years! --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:887039889] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>i remember the first 20 freedom topics mostly being muffin posting links to news stories about bullshit like "LOL THE GOVERNMENT BANNED A LITTLE GIRL'S LEMONADE STAND." not much has changed in all those years!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 09/21/17 10:49:44 PM #166:	foolm0r0n posted... Mr Lasastryke posted... how is socialism "an abject failure in theory"? I mean that's what the first like 20 freedom topics were about, during the 2012 election era Communism is "a utopia in theory". So I guess the negative correlation means socialism by contrast is great? --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:887053174] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>how is socialism "an abject failure in theory"?</quote> I mean that's what the first like 20 freedom topics were about, during the 2012 election era</quote> Communism is "a utopia in theory". So I guess the negative correlation means socialism by contrast is great?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/21/17 11:32:09 PM #167:	kevwaffles posted... Communism is "a utopia in theory". So I guess the negative correlation means socialism by contrast is great? Everything more or less sucks in reality and it's not really related to how much it sucks in theory (though for something to be decent IRL it needs to at least be very solid in theory) --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887055485] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>kevwaffles posted...</cite> <quote>Communism is "a utopia in theory". So I guess the negative correlation means socialism by contrast is great?</quote> Everything more or less sucks in reality and it's not really related to how much it sucks in theory (though for something to be decent IRL it needs to at least be very solid in theory)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 09/22/17 6:59:39 AM #168:	StealThisSheen posted... Vlado posted... https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/breaking-crowdstrike-payments-coincide-with-deaths-of-seth-rich-shawn-lucas/ Nothing conclusive yet, but the coincidences sure keep mounting... https://af-mg.com/ https://www.americafirstmg.com/ They can get this information, but they can't make a decent website after two attempts? Also, conveniently, right after releasing this "dirt," they're asking people to donate $10,000. You know. 'Cuz they need $10,000 for their Google searches and horribly done Wordpress sites. WTF is this deflection. foolm0r0n posted... Vlado posted... It's funny you're "appropriating" nationalist memes. Only goes to show that we are intellectually superior and you need to "borrow" from us. Oh that's an interesting approach. Apparently for some reason I am totally aware of all the dumb shit nationalists jerk either off with each day, and when I say something similar, obviously I am stealing from them. Occam's Razor strikes again. That being said, I don't know why it's such a popular and highly intellectual nationalist meme that nationalism is an abject failure in all its real world examples AND in theory, just like socialism. Shouldn't they want to defend nationalism instead of shit on it? Oh well, nationalists have been known to cut their fingers on Occam's Razor quite often. And their throats. I don't claim it's a super intelligent meme in itself. Just that nationalist circles on the internet are more intelligent than your liberal circles. Taking the meme and replacing "socialism" with "nationalism" shows that you accept that the meme itself - created by nationalists to make fun of the left - is witty. trdl23 posted... Vlado posted... It's not about superiority. Vlado posted... Only goes to show that we are intellectually superior and you need to "borrow" from us. Sorry, I couldn't help seeing this train wreck Whether an ideology claims superiority of one people over other people and whether the followers of an ideology tend to be intellectually superior than the followers of an opposing ideology are two completely different matters. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:887068533] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/09/breaking-crowdstrike-payments-coincide-with-deaths-of-seth-rich-shawn-lucas/ Nothing conclusive yet, but the coincidences sure keep mounting...</quote> https://af-mg.com/ https://www.americafirstmg.com/ They can get this information, but they can't make a decent website after two attempts? Also, conveniently, right after releasing this "dirt," they're asking people to donate $10,000. You know. 'Cuz they need $10,000 for their Google searches and horribly done Wordpress sites.</quote> WTF is this deflection. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>It's funny you're "appropriating" nationalist memes. Only goes to show that we are intellectually superior and you need to "borrow" from us.</quote> Oh that's an interesting approach. Apparently for some reason I am totally aware of all the dumb shit nationalists jerk either off with each day, and when I say something similar, obviously I am stealing from them. Occam's Razor strikes again. That being said, I don't know why it's such a popular and highly intellectual nationalist meme that nationalism is an abject failure in all its real world examples AND in theory, just like socialism. Shouldn't they want to defend nationalism instead of shit on it? Oh well, nationalists have been known to cut their fingers on Occam's Razor quite often. And their throats.</quote> I don't claim it's a super intelligent meme in itself. Just that nationalist circles on the internet are more intelligent than your liberal circles. Taking the meme and replacing "socialism" with "nationalism" shows that you accept that the meme itself - created by nationalists to make fun of the left - is witty. <cite>trdl23 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>It's not about superiority.</quote> <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Only goes to show that we are intellectually superior and you need to "borrow" from us.</quote> Sorry, I couldn't help seeing this train wreck</quote> Whether an ideology claims superiority of one people over other people and whether the followers of an ideology tend to be intellectually superior than the followers of an opposing ideology are two completely different matters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 09/22/17 8:59:04 AM #169:	Vlado posted... Just that nationalist circles on the internet are more intelligent than your liberal circles. Hope you're not implying foolmo is a liberal. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:887071763] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Just that nationalist circles on the internet are more intelligent than your liberal circles. </quote> Hope you're not implying foolmo is a liberal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 09/22/17 9:11:18 AM #170:	he likes feminism and dislikes rape, though. how can he not be a liberal? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:887072170] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>he likes feminism and dislikes rape, though. how can he not be a liberal?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 09/22/17 9:17:11 AM #171:	Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:887072387] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 09/22/17 9:19:51 AM #172:	Vlado posted... Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYU_eDMr4xE --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:887072479] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYU_eDMr4xE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/22/17 9:23:35 AM #173:	Vlado posted... WTF is this deflection. You're talking about yourself here, right? Ignoring all the rest of the detailed analysis? Because you sure don't want people thinking that you didn't critically investigate information. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:887072619] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>WTF is this deflection.</quote> You're talking about yourself here, right? Ignoring all the rest of the detailed analysis? Because you sure don't want people thinking that you didn't critically investigate information.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/22/17 9:31:15 AM #174:	Vlado posted... Anyone who defends anything that I disapprove of is a liberal. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:887072921] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who defends anything that I disapprove of is a liberal.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 09/22/17 9:44:14 AM #175:	Mr Lasastryke posted... Vlado posted... Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYU_eDMr4xE I'm 100% serious. For example, the neocons are, for all intents and purposes, democrats under a different name. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:887073462] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYU_eDMr4xE</quote> I'm 100% serious. For example, the neocons are, for all intents and purposes, democrats under a different name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HashtagSEP 09/22/17 10:30:31 AM #176:	Vlado posted... WTF is this deflection. It's not deflection, unless you're referring to yourself. They misrepresented their information for a clickbait title, then asked for donations, despite so far the only "digging" that they've done being public searching. It's a scam. I just mentioned how shitty the websites look because they didn't even put any effort into it. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig <cite>HashtagSEP posted [p:887075582] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>WTF is this deflection.</quote> It's not deflection, unless you're referring to yourself. They misrepresented their information for a clickbait title, then asked for donations, despite so far the only "digging" that they've done being public searching. It's a scam. I just mentioned how shitty the websites look because they didn't even put any effort into it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 09/22/17 10:45:43 AM #177:	Vlado posted... I'm 100% serious. i know. i'm saying you're wrong because there's no causal relationship between political correctness and liberalism. you can fall anywhere on the political spectrum and be in favor of political correctness. in fairness, you're far from the only person to make this mistake. for instance, muffin calls anyone who's in any way, shape or form positive about political correctness a "left-libertarian." it's impossible for his brain to comprehend that you can be a libertarian and think political correctness isn't necessarily bad. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:887076332] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>I'm 100% serious.</quote> i know. i'm saying you're wrong because there's no causal relationship between political correctness and liberalism. you can fall anywhere on the political spectrum and be in favor of political correctness. in fairness, you're far from the only person to make this mistake. for instance, muffin calls anyone who's in any way, shape or form positive about political correctness a "left-libertarian." it's impossible for his brain to comprehend that you can be a libertarian and think political correctness isn't necessarily bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 09/22/17 10:54:08 AM #178:	I think Vlado has a reason for it Like being politically incorrect is a lot more likely to offend a liberal I feel, based on observation of and interactions with both liberals and conservatives. That being said you can still be liberally minded on a lot of things and not give a damn about it (ironically, people like me who are that, are often thought to not be a liberal as a result-- sorta the exact same thing you're calling Vlado on with labeling people who don't agree with certain aspects of what you preach), and on the flip side you can be a conservative and think it's very important, too-- I know some of those as well. So it's wrong, but I see why he thinks that. Especially on this board, which is probably his primary liberal interaction, where I feel there's a lot more overlap in the groups. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:887076726] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>I think Vlado has a reason for it Like being politically incorrect is a lot more likely to offend a liberal I feel, based on observation of and interactions with both liberals and conservatives. That being said you can still be liberally minded on a lot of things and not give a damn about it (ironically, people like me who are that, are often thought to not be a liberal as a result-- sorta the exact same thing you're calling Vlado on with labeling people who don't agree with certain aspects of what you preach), and on the flip side you can be a conservative and think it's very important, too-- I know some of those as well. So it's wrong, but I see why he thinks that. Especially on this board, which is probably his primary liberal interaction, where I feel there's a lot more overlap in the groups.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 09/22/17 10:57:42 AM #179:	allowing nazis to continue the stupid shit they're doing unabated is 'political correctness' and somehow that has become a right-wing thing --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:887076904] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>allowing nazis to continue the stupid shit they're doing unabated is 'political correctness' and somehow that has become a right-wing thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 09/22/17 10:58:24 AM #180:	people get straight up banned from t_d for disagreeing, can't get more politically correct tha nthat --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:887076940] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>people get straight up banned from t_d for disagreeing, can't get more politically correct tha nthat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 09/22/17 10:58:57 AM #181:	Lopen posted... I think Vlado has a reason for it Like being politically incorrect is a lot more likely to offend a liberal I feel, based on observation of and interactions with both liberals and conservatives. That being said you can still be liberally minded on a lot of things and not give a damn about it (ironically, people like me who are that, are often thought to not be a liberal as a result-- sorta the exact same thing you're calling Vlado on with labeling people who don't agree with certain aspects of what you preach), and on the flip side you can be a conservative and think it's very important, too-- I know some of those as well. So it's wrong, but I see why he thinks that. Especially on this board, which is probably his primary liberal interaction, where I feel there's a lot more overlap in the groups. oh, totally. i'd assume there are more liberals who care about political correctness than conservatives. but yeah, "anyone who defends poltiical correctness is a liberal by default" is wrong. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:887076974] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>I think Vlado has a reason for it Like being politically incorrect is a lot more likely to offend a liberal I feel, based on observation of and interactions with both liberals and conservatives. That being said you can still be liberally minded on a lot of things and not give a damn about it (ironically, people like me who are that, are often thought to not be a liberal as a result-- sorta the exact same thing you're calling Vlado on with labeling people who don't agree with certain aspects of what you preach), and on the flip side you can be a conservative and think it's very important, too-- I know some of those as well. So it's wrong, but I see why he thinks that. Especially on this board, which is probably his primary liberal interaction, where I feel there's a lot more overlap in the groups.</quote> oh, totally. i'd assume there are more liberals who care about political correctness than conservatives. but yeah, "anyone who defends poltiical correctness is a liberal by default" is wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/22/17 12:10:19 PM #182:	Vlado posted... Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal. I fucking HATE political correctness. I'm not the one here who is sucking the dick of the US president and calling for the deportation and execution of anyone who says stuff I disagree with. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887080785] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal.</quote> I fucking HATE political correctness. I'm not the one here who is sucking the dick of the US president and calling for the deportation and execution of anyone who says stuff I disagree with.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 09/22/17 12:13:29 PM #183:	Mr Lasastryke posted... for instance, muffin calls anyone who's in any way, shape or form positive about political correctness a "left-libertarian." meant to say "any libertarian" here, not "anyone." --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:887080985] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>for instance, muffin calls anyone who's in any way, shape or form positive about political correctness a "left-libertarian."</quote> meant to say "any libertarian" here, not "anyone."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/22/17 12:18:48 PM #184:	Vlado posted... created by nationalists to make fun of the left Stuff like this makes your ignorance a HUGE glowing spot on your back, like a classic platformer boss' weak point. Nationalists didn't invent this concept at all. Socialists did, DECADES AGO, by being really horrible. This meme has been around since far before you were born. I only changed it to nationalism to show you how closely related the two philosophies are. Nationalists actually had to take a very long time figuring out how to divorce themselves from the socialist movements which they used to love back in the day. Remember WW2 and such? You don't I guess. But yeah the only innovation of modern nationalism is that anti-fem and anti-pc is somehow pro nationalism (even though nationalism by definition is founded on political correctness) and anti establishment (even though the establishment hates feminism and such). That's how they convinced small minded internet losers like you to be their zombies. --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887081278] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>created by nationalists to make fun of the left</quote> Stuff like this makes your ignorance a HUGE glowing spot on your back, like a classic platformer boss' weak point. Nationalists didn't invent this concept at all. Socialists did, DECADES AGO, by being really horrible. This meme has been around since far before you were born. I only changed it to nationalism to show you how closely related the two philosophies are. Nationalists actually had to take a very long time figuring out how to divorce themselves from the socialist movements which they used to love back in the day. Remember WW2 and such? You don't I guess. But yeah the only innovation of modern nationalism is that anti-fem and anti-pc is somehow pro nationalism (even though nationalism by definition is founded on political correctness) and anti establishment (even though the establishment hates feminism and such). That's how they convinced small minded internet losers like you to be their zombies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/22/17 12:25:56 PM #185:	If political correctness means doing/saying stuff that will get you elected as US president, leader of the free world, then your brain is turned off --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887081669] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>If political correctness means doing/saying stuff that will get you elected as US president, leader of the free world, then your brain is turned off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 09/22/17 12:52:10 PM #186:	I dont think people should choose their words carefully because it is the politically correct thing to do. I think people should choose their words more carefully because its the nice thing to do. But like most everything else you get awfulness on both extremes. Sometimes people can be too quick to be offended in the name of political correctness. And that is bad. But for the most part it seems like people who are opposed to being PC just want to be able to say toxic shit and not get in trouble for it. But that's not how words work. People are allowed to say whatever disgusting things they want. And everyone else is allowed to call that person a horrible person for saying horrible things. I personally prefer people who don't say horrible things. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:887083146] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>I dont think people should choose their words carefully because it is the politically correct thing to do. I think people should choose their words more carefully because its the nice thing to do. But like most everything else you get awfulness on both extremes. Sometimes people can be too quick to be offended in the name of political correctness. And that is bad. But for the most part it seems like people who are opposed to being PC just want to be able to say toxic shit and not get in trouble for it. But that's not how words work. People are allowed to say whatever disgusting things they want. And everyone else is allowed to call that person a horrible person for saying horrible things. I personally prefer people who don't say horrible things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 09/22/17 1:15:32 PM #187:	Depends what you consider "toxic." I think there are certain discussions where you can't convey the same meaning while being super nice about it, or where the meaning is jumbled because there's an excessive amount of concern being put on not offending anyone, but that doesn't mean you're necessarily being super venomous about it either, as you're going to lose the ability to convey your meaning there too due to pissing everyone off. There is a scale of political correctness, with either extreme distracting from the point in the end. There's a difference between being diplomatic and being politically correct in many cases. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:887084420] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>Depends what you consider "toxic." I think there are certain discussions where you can't convey the same meaning while being super nice about it, or where the meaning is jumbled because there's an excessive amount of concern being put on not offending anyone, but that doesn't mean you're necessarily being super venomous about it either, as you're going to lose the ability to convey your meaning there too due to pissing everyone off. There is a scale of political correctness, with either extreme distracting from the point in the end. There's a difference between being diplomatic and being politically correct in many cases.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/22/17 1:17:08 PM #188:	Lopen posted... I think there are certain discussions where you can't convey the same meaning while being super nice about it Could you give an example of what you see being like this? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:887084524] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>I think there are certain discussions where you can't convey the same meaning while being super nice about it</quote> Could you give an example of what you see being like this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 09/22/17 1:42:03 PM #189:	"nazis suck." not super nice, but it has to be said! --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:887085957] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>"nazis suck." not super nice, but it has to be said!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 09/22/17 1:50:52 PM #190:	conservatives have their own political correctness - can't even call racism racist anymore --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:887086460] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>conservatives have their own political correctness - can't even call racism racist anymore</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 09/22/17 2:57:53 PM #191:	Mr Lasastryke posted... Vlado posted... I'm 100% serious. i know. i'm saying you're wrong because there's no causal relationship between political correctness and liberalism. you can fall anywhere on the political spectrum and be in favor of political correctness. in fairness, you're far from the only person to make this mistake. for instance, muffin calls anyone who's in any way, shape or form positive about political correctness a "left-libertarian." it's impossible for his brain to comprehend that you can be a libertarian and think political correctness isn't necessarily bad. Of course there is. Political correctness is authoritarianism. Of course, you can be right-wing and authoritarian, too. But political correctness is rooted in the "equality" lunacy, thus a distinct trait of the left. It's impossible to be libertarian and believe in political correctness because libertarians do not fight for "equality," they recognise that people are different and will naturally achieve different results. The only way to force them to have equal results is totalitarian government interference over their lives, and that's the exact opposite of the libertarian ideology. foolm0r0n posted... Vlado posted... created by nationalists to make fun of the left Stuff like this makes your ignorance a HUGE glowing spot on your back, like a classic platformer boss' weak point. Nationalists didn't invent this concept at all. Socialists did, DECADES AGO, by being really horrible. Technically, that's correct, heh. A meme about socialism being a failure couldn't have been born if socialism hadn't been a failure. But it's not like socialists came up with it. Their opponents did. foolm0r0n posted... Vlado posted... created by nationalists to make fun of the left This meme has been around since far before you were born. I only changed it to nationalism to show you how closely related the two philosophies are. Nationalists actually had to take a very long time figuring out how to divorce themselves from the socialist movements which they used to love back in the day. Remember WW2 and such? You don't I guess. But yeah the only innovation of modern nationalism is that anti-fem and anti-pc is somehow pro nationalism (even though nationalism by definition is founded on political correctness) and anti establishment (even though the establishment hates feminism and such). That's how they convinced small minded internet losers like you to be their zombies. Yes, I remember WW2. The socialist party there was the Soviet union, an empire composed of different nations. You're doing a very poor job convincing anyone that socialism and nationalism are related. Nationalism existed for a few thousand years before Marx was born. foolm0r0n posted... the establishment hates feminism and such The establishment most certainly doesn't hate one of its most useful tools in the West. Feminism undermines families and traditional values, and causes educated people to have less children. The establishment has every reason to be happy about that, and that is why it spends billions every year to sponsor feminist movements. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:887090439] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>I'm 100% serious.</quote> i know. i'm saying you're wrong because there's no causal relationship between political correctness and liberalism. you can fall anywhere on the political spectrum and be in favor of political correctness. in fairness, you're far from the only person to make this mistake. for instance, muffin calls anyone who's in any way, shape or form positive about political correctness a "left-libertarian." it's impossible for his brain to comprehend that you can be a libertarian and think political correctness isn't necessarily bad.</quote> Of course there is. Political correctness is authoritarianism. Of course, you can be right-wing and authoritarian, too. But political correctness is rooted in the "equality" lunacy, thus a distinct trait of the left. It's impossible to be libertarian and believe in political correctness because libertarians do not fight for "equality," they recognise that people are different and will naturally achieve different results. The only way to force them to have equal results is totalitarian government interference over their lives, and that's the exact opposite of the libertarian ideology. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>created by nationalists to make fun of the left</quote> Stuff like this makes your ignorance a HUGE glowing spot on your back, like a classic platformer boss' weak point. Nationalists didn't invent this concept at all. Socialists did, DECADES AGO, by being really horrible.</quote> Technically, that's correct, heh. A meme about socialism being a failure couldn't have been born if socialism hadn't been a failure. But it's not like socialists came up with it. Their opponents did. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>created by nationalists to make fun of the left</quote> This meme has been around since far before you were born. I only changed it to nationalism to show you how closely related the two philosophies are. Nationalists actually had to take a very long time figuring out how to divorce themselves from the socialist movements which they used to love back in the day. Remember WW2 and such? You don't I guess. But yeah the only innovation of modern nationalism is that anti-fem and anti-pc is somehow pro nationalism (even though nationalism by definition is founded on political correctness) and anti establishment (even though the establishment hates feminism and such). That's how they convinced small minded internet losers like you to be their zombies.</quote> Yes, I remember WW2. The socialist party there was the Soviet union, an empire composed of different nations. You're doing a very poor job convincing anyone that socialism and nationalism are related. Nationalism existed for a few thousand years before Marx was born. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>the establishment hates feminism and such</quote> The establishment most certainly doesn't hate one of its most useful tools in the West. Feminism undermines families and traditional values, and causes educated people to have less children. The establishment has every reason to be happy about that, and that is why it spends billions every year to sponsor feminist movements.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Not_an_Owl 09/22/17 3:04:59 PM #192:	Vlado posted... I'm 100% serious. For example, the neocons are, for all intents and purposes, democrats under a different name. @Nelson_Mandela thoughts on this? --- Besides, marijuana is far more harmful than steroids. - BlitzBomb I headbang to Bruckner. <cite>Not_an_Owl posted [p:887090857] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>I'm 100% serious. For example, the neocons are, for all intents and purposes, democrats under a different name.</quote> @Nelson_Mandela thoughts on this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 09/22/17 3:06:05 PM #193:	Vlado posted... Feminism undermines families and traditional values, and causes educated people to have less children. raise your hand if vlado supporting women being constantly pregnant and dependent on men surprises you --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:887090924] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote> Feminism undermines families and traditional values, and causes educated people to have less children.</quote> raise your hand if vlado supporting women being constantly pregnant and dependent on men surprises you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 09/22/17 3:06:41 PM #194:	Lopen posted... I think Vlado has a reason for it Like being politically incorrect is a lot more likely to offend a liberal I feel, based on observation of and interactions with both liberals and conservatives. That being said you can still be liberally minded on a lot of things and not give a damn about it (ironically, people like me who are that, are often thought to not be a liberal as a result-- sorta the exact same thing you're calling Vlado on with labeling people who don't agree with certain aspects of what you preach), and on the flip side you can be a conservative and think it's very important, too-- I know some of those as well. So it's wrong, but I see why he thinks that. Especially on this board, which is probably his primary liberal interaction, where I feel there's a lot more overlap in the groups. Those are not conservatives, they are "conservatives" like their neocon heroes. Trump won on anti-political correctness, he won because every time the media tried to attack him for not being politically correct, he doubled down, destroyed them, and showed the ordinary guy that they - and political correctness - really have not an ounce more power than you are willing to give them. banananor posted... allowing nazis to continue the stupid shit they're doing unabated is 'political correctness' and somehow that has become a right-wing thing THIS is political correctness, genius: http://uk.businessinsider.com/schools-are-banning-best-friends-to-protect-kids-feelings-2017-9 THIS is what it leads to, and more. banananor posted... people get straight up banned from t_d for disagreeing, can't get more politically correct tha nthat Plebbit is not in any way an indicator for anything other than the mods being idiots. foolm0r0n posted... Vlado posted... Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal. I fucking HATE political correctness. lmfao, riiiiiiiiiiight. That's why you're ALWAYS one of the first people to attack politically incorrect opinions whenever there's a chance. Forceful_Dragon posted... I dont think people should choose their words carefully because it is the politically correct thing to do. I think people should choose their words more carefully because its the nice thing to do. Fuck no. https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/2017/09/freedom-of-speech-is-freedom-to-think/ Forceful_Dragon posted... But like most everything else you get awfulness on both extremes. Sometimes people can be too quick to be offended in the name of political correctness. And that is bad. But for the most part it seems like people who are opposed to being PC just want to be able to say toxic shit and not get in trouble for it. But that's not how words work. People are allowed to say whatever disgusting things they want. And everyone else is allowed to call that person a horrible person for saying horrible things. I personally prefer people who don't say horrible things. Everyone prefers people who don't say horrible things. Society self-regulates in that aspect. Thus, there is no need whatsoever for the politically correct movement, it's just a gateway to 1984. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:887090955] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote>I think Vlado has a reason for it Like being politically incorrect is a lot more likely to offend a liberal I feel, based on observation of and interactions with both liberals and conservatives. That being said you can still be liberally minded on a lot of things and not give a damn about it (ironically, people like me who are that, are often thought to not be a liberal as a result-- sorta the exact same thing you're calling Vlado on with labeling people who don't agree with certain aspects of what you preach), and on the flip side you can be a conservative and think it's very important, too-- I know some of those as well. So it's wrong, but I see why he thinks that. Especially on this board, which is probably his primary liberal interaction, where I feel there's a lot more overlap in the groups.</quote> Those are not conservatives, they are "conservatives" like their neocon heroes. Trump won on anti-political correctness, he won because every time the media tried to attack him for not being politically correct, he doubled down, destroyed them, and showed the ordinary guy that they - and political correctness - really have not an ounce more power than you are willing to give them. <cite>banananor posted...</cite> <quote>allowing nazis to continue the stupid shit they're doing unabated is 'political correctness' and somehow that has become a right-wing thing</quote> THIS is political correctness, genius: http://uk.businessinsider.com/schools-are-banning-best-friends-to-protect-kids-feelings-2017-9 THIS is what it leads to, and more. <cite>banananor posted...</cite> <quote>people get straight up banned from t_d for disagreeing, can't get more politically correct tha nthat</quote> Plebbit is not in any way an indicator for anything other than the mods being idiots. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Anyone who defends political correctness is a liberal.</quote> I fucking HATE political correctness.</quote> lmfao, riiiiiiiiiiight. That's why you're ALWAYS one of the first people to attack politically incorrect opinions whenever there's a chance. <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>I dont think people should choose their words carefully because it is the politically correct thing to do. I think people should choose their words more carefully because its the nice thing to do.</quote> Fuck no. https://www.theobjectivestandard.com/2017/09/freedom-of-speech-is-freedom-to-think/ <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>But like most everything else you get awfulness on both extremes. Sometimes people can be too quick to be offended in the name of political correctness. And that is bad. But for the most part it seems like people who are opposed to being PC just want to be able to say toxic shit and not get in trouble for it. But that's not how words work. People are allowed to say whatever disgusting things they want. And everyone else is allowed to call that person a horrible person for saying horrible things. I personally prefer people who don't say horrible things.</quote> Everyone prefers people who don't say horrible things. Society self-regulates in that aspect. Thus, there is no need whatsoever for the politically correct movement, it's just a gateway to 1984.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/22/17 3:09:33 PM #195:	Vlado posted... The establishment most certainly doesn't hate one of its most useful tools in the West And yet you don't question even for a second whether they hate nationalism --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887091096] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>The establishment most certainly doesn't hate one of its most useful tools in the West</quote> And yet you don't question even for a second whether they hate nationalism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/22/17 3:12:00 PM #196:	Vlado posted... Plebbit is not in any way an indicator for anything other than the mods being idiots. Trump bans any reporters who say things that offend him Putin does the same, and occasionally assassinates them Vlado posted... lmfao, riiiiiiiiiiight. That's why you're ALWAYS one of the first people to attack politically incorrect opinions whenever there's a chance. I attack mindless drones who parrot politically correct nonsense (i.e. stuff the president, leader of the free world would say to get elected) without using their brain --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887091224] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Plebbit is not in any way an indicator for anything other than the mods being idiots.</quote> Trump bans any reporters who say things that offend him Putin does the same, and occasionally assassinates them <cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>lmfao, riiiiiiiiiiight. That's why you're ALWAYS one of the first people to attack politically incorrect opinions whenever there's a chance.</quote> I attack mindless drones who parrot politically correct nonsense (i.e. stuff the president, leader of the free world would say to get elected) without using their brain</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/22/17 3:14:26 PM #197:	Vlado posted... Trump won on anti-political correctness Like how braindead do you have to be to say this "The most popular man on Earth became popular by saying unpopular things" --- _foolmo_ 2 + 2 = 4 <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:887091361] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Trump won on anti-political correctness</quote> Like how braindead do you have to be to say this "The most popular man on Earth became popular by saying unpopular things"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 09/22/17 3:14:40 PM #198:	Not_an_Owl posted... Vlado posted... I'm 100% serious. For example, the neocons are, for all intents and purposes, democrats under a different name. @Nelson_Mandela thoughts on this? Yeah, I thought of him. I suppose he's the exception to everything I said, which is the rule. Peace___Frog posted... Vlado posted... Feminism undermines families and traditional values, and causes educated people to have less children. raise your hand if vlado supporting women being constantly pregnant and dependent on men surprises you That's a disgustingly ignorant interpretation of what I said. "Career or children" is a painfully obvious false dichtonomy. Women who are fortunate not to get brainwashed in that way, or choose to ignore it, often happily achieve both. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:887091371] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>Not_an_Owl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>I'm 100% serious. For example, the neocons are, for all intents and purposes, democrats under a different name.</quote> @Nelson_Mandela thoughts on this?</quote> Yeah, I thought of him. I suppose he's the exception to everything I said, which is the rule. <cite>Peace___Frog posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote> Feminism undermines families and traditional values, and causes educated people to have less children.</quote> raise your hand if vlado supporting women being constantly pregnant and dependent on men surprises you</quote> That's a disgustingly ignorant interpretation of what I said. "Career or children" is a painfully obvious false dichtonomy. Women who are fortunate not to get brainwashed in that way, or choose to ignore it, often happily achieve both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 09/22/17 3:21:31 PM #199:	foolm0r0n posted... Vlado posted... The establishment most certainly doesn't hate one of its most useful tools in the West And yet you don't question even for a second whether they hate nationalism Nationalism stands in the way of the establishment. Why do you think Trump is under constant attack by the globalist media? Why is Putin depicted as the devil? Why are Orbán and the Polish leaders constantly attacked by the EU bureaucrats? Because they're nationalists who oppose globalism, i.e. the establishment. foolm0r0n posted... Trump bans any reporters who say things that offend him Putin does the same, and occasionally assassinates them lmfao imagine actually believing this. foolm0r0n posted... I attack mindless drones who parrot politically correct nonsense (i.e. stuff the president, leader of the free world would say to get elected) without using their brain If it was politically correct, the globalist media wouldn't have been at constant war with the man. Your attempt to portray Trump - and especially Candidate Trump - as "the establishment" just because he won is incredibly weak. foolm0r0n posted... Vlado posted... Trump won on anti-political correctness Like how braindead do you have to be to say this "The most popular man on Earth became popular by saying unpopular things" That's the thing - political correctness is NOT popular. It's a forced meme, but one globalist media and globalist corporations like google and facebook force relentlessly, 24/7. Political correctness would have never taken off without that. We see it losing a lot of steam even with all that, and that's why the aforementioned are doubling down on their censorship. So yes, political correctness is unpopular. Trump won by saying popular things. However, neither he, nor his electorate have the real power. Globalists do. And we must take it away from them, for the good of humanity. --- Blitzball fan? Try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! *Best game reviews: http://betweenlifeandgames.com* <cite>Vlado posted [p:887091736] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote><cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>The establishment most certainly doesn't hate one of its most useful tools in the West</quote> And yet you don't question even for a second whether they hate nationalism</quote> Nationalism stands in the way of the establishment. Why do you think Trump is under constant attack by the globalist media? Why is Putin depicted as the devil? Why are Orbán and the Polish leaders constantly attacked by the EU bureaucrats? Because they're nationalists who oppose globalism, i.e. the establishment. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>Trump bans any reporters who say things that offend him Putin does the same, and occasionally assassinates them</quote> lmfao imagine actually believing this. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote>I attack mindless drones who parrot politically correct nonsense (i.e. stuff the president, leader of the free world would say to get elected) without using their brain</quote> If it was politically correct, the globalist media wouldn't have been at constant war with the man. Your attempt to portray Trump - and especially Candidate Trump - as "the establishment" just because he won is incredibly weak. <cite>foolm0r0n posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Vlado posted...</cite> <quote>Trump won on anti-political correctness</quote> Like how braindead do you have to be to say this "The most popular man on Earth became popular by saying unpopular things"</quote> That's the thing - political correctness is NOT popular. It's a forced meme, but one globalist media and globalist corporations like google and facebook force relentlessly, 24/7. Political correctness would have never taken off without that. We see it losing a lot of steam even with all that, and that's why the aforementioned are doubling down on their censorship. So yes, political correctness is unpopular. Trump won by saying popular things. However, neither he, nor his electorate have the real power. Globalists do. And we must take it away from them, for the good of humanity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Espeon 09/22/17 3:24:34 PM #200:	Can we take a brief sidebar from Vlado arguing that the dominant ethnicity, gender and religion that have controlled Western culture for centuries is a victim of establishment oppression, and discuss the blatant ignoring of a researched shredding of an article he blindly posted like a sheep? --- Inviso's Most Adorabl-est Eeveelution Ever http://i.imgur.com/SSw6M9E.gif <cite>Espeon posted [p:887091884] in Obama's ad... [t:75790652]...</cite> <quote>Can we take a brief sidebar from Vlado arguing that the dominant ethnicity, gender and religion that have controlled Western culture for centuries is a victim of establishment oppression, and discuss the blatant ignoring of a researched shredding of an article he blindly posted like a sheep?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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