Poll of the Day > This 5 y/o Kid was SUSPENDED because he said he had a BOMB in his Backpack!!!

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Parents of a 5 y/o Kindergarten Kid are OUTRAGED after he was SUSPENDED for stating he had a BOMB in his backpack!!

The school suspended him for making "terroristic" threats after he claimed to be carrying a bomb as Jackson Riley, a kindergartner at Great Valley Academy in California told his teacher he couldn't take his backpack off cause of that "bomb".

After his teacher looked inside and found nothing, the boy was suspended from the lesson for one day.

The school sent a letter home stating he violated a school code when he "intentionally engaged in harassment, threats or intimidation".

But Parents, Ian and MIchelle complained that the rule only applied to students in grade 4-12.

Ian is a local radio host who said "He's got an imagination. In his mind, he's being this hero that's preventing you from being exploded from an imaginary bomb in his backpack. We don't want terroist threats to be on his permanent record. This kid is 5. We think the administration acted far too harsh for a 5 y/o. We truly want to stress that our issue is with the admin and that we absolutely love and adore our children's teacher. She has been amazing with our son. My wife and i really, truly, honestly, sincerely, appreciate all the supportive message we have received today!! i mean that"

Do you think it was fair to suspend Jackson? let's see what people think

Jackson -

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Fair, next.
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He only got off because he didn't say he had a gun in his backpack.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Fair, next.

This is a joke, right?

@wwinterj25 Please confirm.

He's 5. They overdid it

Needs to know that saying stuff like that is not allowed but it shouldn't be on his permanent record.

To all the yes votes, you've clearly never lived with a 5yo.
Their grasp of social etiquette is nonexistent at worst, burgeoning at best. They simply parrot the themes and moods of those around them, looking for meaning in and typically without any real concept of understanding the gravity of the issue they've inadvertently raised.
The teacher should have known better and used it as a lesson in things they shouldn't joke about/that aren't good topics for playing around with.
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Syntheticon posted...

To all the yes votes, you've clearly never lived with a 5yo.

I've never lived with a 5yo, but I still have two brain cells to rub together so that I know this is ridiculous.

The yes votes are either trolls or sad, stupid people.

No, it's fucking stupid because the kid is 5.
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Zeus posted...

No, it's fucking stupid because the kid is 5.

That may or may not be, but there's nothing wrong with what he said, he's right that this is a stupid move. I'm not arguing with him. I just think he was being a bit too gracious to the yes votes.

EDIT: Gah, you edited your post, ya sly dog!

Is the teacher a member of the bomb squad? She put everyone in the school in danger going through the book bag.

Fire her

Meanwhile, a Muslim kid whose parents have deep ties to the Sudanese government, is congratulated for a "clock" that he made by simply ripping out the innards, and sticking it in a case full of wires, when it looked exactly like a bomb.

GameLord113 posted...

Needs to know that saying stuff like that is not allowed but it shouldn't be on his permanent record.

These sorts of permanent records are mostly scare tactics.
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Currant_Kaiser posted...

This is a joke, right?

Nope. This will teach the kid not to lie about this shit.

Syntheticon posted...

The teacher should have known better and used it as a lesson in things they shouldn't joke about/that aren't good topics for playing around with.

I believe that's what they did.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Nope. This will teach the kid not to lie about this s***.

This is a joke, right? I don't want to think that you're that absurd.

Currant_Kaiser posted...

This is a joke, right? I don't want to think that you're that absurd.

Yeah it's absurd to teach kids right from wrong my bad.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Currant_Kaiser posted...

This is a joke, right? I don't want to think that you're that absurd.

Yeah it's absurd to teach kids right from wrong my bad.

It's absurd to issue a suspension to a five-year-old for saying he has a bomb in his backpack, yes. He's five. I guess you wouldn't understand because apparently you didn't have a childhood.

Currant_Kaiser posted...

It's absurd to issue a suspension to a five-year-old for saying he has a bomb in his backpack, yes. He's five. I guess you wouldn't understand because apparently you didn't have a childhood.

All I'm seeing is "he's 5!" like that grants him a free pass. Does that mean he can go on a mass murdering spree and that's ok because he's 5? Clearly not. Actions have consequences and kids, just as I did should learn that and not be taught they will get a free pass because of their age. It's really not a hard concept to grasp.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Currant_Kaiser posted...

It's absurd to issue a suspension to a five-year-old for saying he has a bomb in his backpack, yes. He's five. I guess you wouldn't understand because apparently you didn't have a childhood.

All I'm seeing is "he's 5!" like that grants him a free pass. Does that mean he can go on a mass murdering spree and that's ok because he's 5? Clearly not. Actions have consequences and kids, just as I did should learn that and not be taught they will get a free pass because of their age. It's really not a hard concept to grasp.

No, but he's not going on a mass murdering spree. That you feel the need to liken a five-year-old saying he has a bomb because he doesn't know any better to a five-year-old going on a mass murdering spree just shows that you have no leg to stand on. It seems like you're coming more from a place of bitterness than any rationality.

I mean, what are you going to argue next? Should a baby be charged with rape for trying to suckle the breast of a woman who didn't consent? I guess we should lock him up because he doesn't get a free pass for his age.

Currant_Kaiser posted...

It seems like you're coming more from a place of bitterness than any rationality.

The school suspended him and I agree with it. Nothing really more to be said but you asked me to elaborate on my view more or less and I did. That hasn't changed so eh think what you like buddy the fact is it's happened so deal with it.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Currant_Kaiser posted...

It seems like you're coming more from a place of bitterness than any rationality.

The school suspended him and I agree with it. Nothing really more to be said but you asked me to elaborate on my view more or less and I did. That hasn't changed so eh think what you like buddy the fact is it's happened so deal with it.

What exactly what is it you were referring to here:

wwinterj25 posted...

Actions have consequences and kids, just as I did should learn that and not be taught they will get a free pass because of their age.

Zikten posted...

He's 5. They overdid it

god i am agreeing with zitken.
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Seriously. A little trip to the naughty corner seems sufficient.
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Currant_Kaiser posted...

What exactly what is it you were referring to here:

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wwinterj25 posted...

Currant_Kaiser posted...

This is a joke, right? I don't want to think that you're that absurd.

Yeah it's absurd to teach kids right from wrong my bad.

Right from wrong? Did you read the OP? The kid was playing make believe, not making threats.
What is wrong with that?
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Sometimes I think back to the games my friends and I used to play on the playground and wonder what the administrations reactions would be today.
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Currant_Kaiser posted...

Zeus posted...

No, it's fucking stupid because the kid is 5.

That may or may not be, but there's nothing wrong with what he said, he's right that this is a stupid move. I'm not arguing with him. I just think he was being a bit too gracious to the yes votes.

EDIT: Gah, you edited your post, ya sly dog!

Yeah, I just assumed he was trolling the opposite at first because at a glance your post seemed to disagree with his and I just skim over quoted comments pertaining to people on my ignore list.

wwinterj25 posted...

Currant_Kaiser posted...

It's absurd to issue a suspension to a five-year-old for saying he has a bomb in his backpack, yes. He's five. I guess you wouldn't understand because apparently you didn't have a childhood.

All I'm seeing is "he's 5!" like that grants him a free pass. Does that mean he can go on a mass murdering spree and that's ok because he's 5? Clearly not. Actions have consequences and kids, just as I did should learn that and not be taught they will get a free pass because of their age. It's really not a hard concept to grasp.

Consider that the difference between saying he has a bomb in his backpack and having a bomb in his backpack. And he's 5, meaning he doesn't have a real awareness of these things like somebody older would, which isn't a hard concept to grasp. The school reacted in entirely the wrong way.
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SmokeMassTree2 posted...

Is the teacher a member of the bomb squad? She put everyone in the school in danger going through the book bag.

this too. that was kinda stupid of her

to be honest I think it's idiotic to suspend a 5 year for anything. there is nothing a 5 year old can do that warrants suspension. and the suspension won't even mean anything to the kid. he barely knows what's going on in his life. He won't understand the punishment and it won't even feel like a punishment. he gets to watch sesame street instead of going to school.

TIE543 posted...

Sometimes I think back to the games my friends and I used to play on the playground and wonder what the administrations reactions would be today.

I remember playing Cops and Robbers at that age, and all we really understood about prostitutes is that they were criminals, and that criminals was good enough for Cops and Robbers. So we'd have conversations like, "You were the prostitute last time! It's my turn to be the prostitute!" or "Billy did some things for money because he's a prostitute".

Today that shit would probably lead to a totally deadpan investigation into a child sex ring. One that some people would never truly believe wasn't going on.
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Kungfu Kenobi posted...

TIE543 posted...

Sometimes I think back to the games my friends and I used to play on the playground and wonder what the administrations reactions would be today.

I remember playing Cops and Robbers at that age, and all we really understood about prostitutes is that they were criminals, and that criminals was good enough for Cops and Robbers. So we'd have conversations like, "You were the prostitute last time! It's my turn to be the prostitute!" or "Billy did some things for money because he's a prostitute".

Today that shit would probably lead to a totally deadpan investigation into a child sex ring. One that some people would never truly believe wasn't going on.

Nowadays we live in an age where kids get suspended for pointing fingers or chewing toast into the shape of a gun. Whole damn country has gone crazy.
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That kid is being punished and he isn't even old enough to understand why, that's fucked up. Tell the parents, sit him down and explain to him why it was wrong, there's absolutely no reason to suspend him.
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Zikten posted...

He's 5. They overdid it

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Full Throttle posted...

The school sent a letter home stating he violated a school code when he "intentionally engaged in harassment, threats or intimidation".

I don't think 5 year olds are even mentally capable of intentionally intimidating anybody.
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no
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No, not okay just because he's 5.

If anything it's even more important to set the record straight that this sort of behavior is not acceptable.

You can't potentially endanger the lives of dozens of other little kids and the teacher because the child doesn't understand what is appropriate and when it is an appropriate time to play make believe.

It's a school not a playground

Syntheticon posted...

To all the yes votes, you've clearly never lived with a 5yo.
Their grasp of social etiquette is nonexistent at worst, burgeoning at best. They simply parrot the themes and moods of those around them, looking for meaning in and typically without any real concept of understanding the gravity of the issuetthey've inadvertently raised.
The teacher should have known better and used it as a lesson in things they shouldn't joke about/that aren't good topics for playing around with.

I've been 5, and I've had 5 other younger siblings. None of them have been suspended from school for insubordination and/or terrorstic threats.

Hell I was literally tutoring a kindergartener how to play chess a few months ago. His attention span wavered at times but he was always well behaved and well mannered and respectful. It's called parenting

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Full Throttle posted...

The school sent a letter home stating he violated a school code when he "intentionally engaged in harassment, threats or intimidation".

I don't think 5 year olds are even mentally capable of intentionally intimidating anybody.

I remember getting some sticks up my chin by some punk ass future convict 5 year old when I was in daycare.

He didn't lack understanding of what he was doing, he was just a punk ass ornery kid who wanted to fight everyone and had no friends

really when I think about it, the teacher REALLY fucked up. think about how the kid worded it. he said he didn't want to kill everyone by opening his backpack. that almost sounds like maybe his dad put a bomb in the bag and the kid was scared. and what does the teacher do? she messes around with it. imagine if there really was a bomb in there and then she sets it off and kills the entire school. what an idiot

OmegaTomHank posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Full Throttle posted...

The school sent a letter home stating he violated a school code when he "intentionally engaged in harassment, threats or intimidation".

I don't think 5 year olds are even mentally capable of intentionally intimidating anybody.

I remember getting some sticks up my chin by some punk ass future convict 5 year old when I was in daycare.

He didn't lack understanding of what he was doing, he was just a punk ass ornery kid who wanted to fight everyone and had no friends

Animals have instincts for violence, no shit, but very small children have no concept of using threats to get their own way or that adults would be intimidated by them.
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Zeus posted...

Nowadays we live in an age where kids get suspended for pointing fingers or chewing toast into the shape of a gun.

Fair point. I could have stopped at "I remember playing cops and robbers"

Fuck
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OmegaTomHank posted...

Syntheticon posted...

To all the yes votes, you've clearly never lived with a 5yo.
Their grasp of social etiquette is nonexistent at worst, burgeoning at best. They simply parrot the themes and moods of those around them, looking for meaning in and typically without any real concept of understanding the gravity of the issuetthey've inadvertently raised.
The teacher should have known better and used it as a lesson in things they shouldn't joke about/that aren't good topics for playing around with.

I've been 5, and I've had 5 other younger siblings. None of them have been suspended from school for insubordination and/or terrorstic threats.

Hell I was literally tutoring a kindergartener how to play chess a few months ago. His attention span wavered at times but he was always well behaved and well mannered and respectful. It's called parenting

Because none of you were 5 today. This shit wasn't happening when you were a kid, unless you're only 13 now.
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XlaxJynx007 posted...

That kid is being punished and he isn't even old enough to understand why, that's fucked up.

Then he learns. I mean if you think punishing a kid for something they did wrong is "fucked up" because they don't understand then kids would never be punished or even learn for that matter.

XlaxJynx007 posted...

Tell the parents, sit him down and explain to him why it was wrong

... but what's the point when he won't understand right?
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wwinterj25 posted...

XlaxJynx007 posted...

That kid is being punished and he isn't even old enough to understand why, that's fucked up.

Then he learns. I mean if you think punishing a kid for something they did wrong is "fucked up" because they don't understand then kids would never be punished or even learn for that matter.

He learns that the school is being running by fucking idiots and to hate the administration because it'll overreact over anything. Or maybe he learns that he can get a free day off by making things up. Either way, it's not the lesson you want to teach and the punishment doesn't fit the non-crime.
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Zeus posted...

He learns that the school is being running by fucking idiots and to hate the administration because it'll overreact over anything. Or maybe he learns that he can get a free day off by making things up.

Sure he could learn those things but he still learns every action has a consequence whatever the case.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Zeus posted...

He learns that the school is being running by fucking idiots and to hate the administration because it'll overreact over anything. Or maybe he learns that he can get a free day off by making things up.

Sure he could learn those things but he still learns every action has a consequence whatever the case.

No, he doesn't. Learning about consequences first entails knowing that something is wrong BEFORE being punished for it. There's no way that a 5 y/o has any conception when it comes to using his imagination like that. The only people in the wrong are the school faculty -- because at least THEY'RE old enough to know better -- and they most certainly should be punished, perhaps with an unpaid suspension or an outright firing.
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I should steal something then tell the police officer " Sorry, didn't know I couldn't do that, you can't punish me now"

Zeus posted...

OmegaTomHank posted...

Syntheticon posted...

To all the yes votes, you've clearly never lived with a 5yo.
Their grasp of social etiquette is nonexistent at worst, burgeoning at best. They simply parrot the themes and moods of those around them, looking for meaning in and typically without any real concept of understanding the gravity of the issuetthey've inadvertently raised.
The teacher should have known better and used it as a lesson in things they shouldn't joke about/that aren't good topics for playing around with.

I've been 5, and I've had 5 other younger siblings. None of them have been suspended from school for insubordination and/or terrorstic threats.

Hell I was literally tutoring a kindergartener how to play chess a few months ago. His attention span wavered at times but he was always well behaved and well mannered and respectful. It's called parenting

Because none of you were 5 today. This shit wasn't happening when you were a kid, unless you're only 13 now.

No insubordination and making threats about having guns and bombs was always punishable.

I actually went to a really strict school that constantly gave me detention for taking too much.

It's called having respect for authority

Furthermore I'm willing to bet dinner that this kid was being a smartass.

I'm glad he got put out for a day.

Being 5 is old enough to understand not acting like a clown and obeying those who are your caretakers.

My little siblings knew not to try me at the same age. Acting like that in school and then the parents justifying it just shows their parenting skills and this kid will probably be a real little shit in the future.

Definitely worth keeping tabs on if I'm the school