Board 8 > nypd rapes girl

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what do you not understand about my answer to your question?
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

what do you not understand about my answer to your question?

Are you calling someone in here a rapist or are you calling all cops rapists? Am I supposed to understand your answer?
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you asked "who has not condemned rape?" and i gave an example of people who have not condemned rape.
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Corrik posted...

JetJaguar posted...

Peace___Frog posted...

If multiple off duty doctors across the nation began raping people and facing little to no repercussions, then yes I am judging all doctors, especially ones who support (or do not at least condemn) the doctors who are doing the raping.

Here, GMUN, is an example of somebody who is actually bigoted. Unless of course he can provide examples proving that all cops are rapists who operate above the law...

Given that this topic started in response to two cops (allegedly) committing a rape and getting in trouble for it, I doubt it

I agree there is something severely off with him. He used to be fine prior to the election. I think he is an example of someone who dabbled into politics and just couldn't come out of it and act normal at any point after it.

Like, yeah, discussing politics tends to lead to fights because you have two opposing ideologies competing. Peaf, though, seems to have let politics infect everything about him. It is kind of sad.

Oh well

Corrik posted...

Mr Lasastryke posted...

what's so terrible about judging someone who doesn't condemn rape?

Who has not condemned rape?

Your immediate response to the post about Peaf was that saw nothing wrong with judging people who do not condemn rape.

Who are you specifically referring to in reponse to Peaf's post and follow up responses?
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Corrik posted...

So if an off duty doctor raped someone, you are judging all doctors? What does it being a job matter?

Please don't forget that this is what led to my post. I am not saying i would judge all doctors, only the ones who did not condemn it. It's adorable how you think you're catching me being a bigot, but nothing I've said goes against common sense. At the very least, I'm not saying that transgendered individuals aren't people, like a certain someone recently died on a hill about.
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Oh, we're pretending cops aren't mainly one big frat and can't be held to the standard of other jobs because other jobs don't promote that sort of all-of-us mentality? That's cute
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Peace___Frog posted...

Corrik posted...

So if an off duty doctor raped someone, you are judging all doctors? What does it being a job matter?

Please don't forget that this is what led to my post. I am not saying i would judge all doctors, only the ones who did not condemn it. It's adorable how you think you're catching me being a bigot, but nothing I've said goes against common sense. At the very least, I'm not saying that transgendered individuals aren't people, like a certain someone recently died on a hill about.

Peace___Frog posted...

If multiple off duty doctors across the nation began raping people and facing little to no repercussions, then yes I am judging all doctors, especially ones who support (or do not at least condemn) the doctors who are doing the raping.

So just changing what you said and got called out on? Well, that was a good call.

Especially when no cop or doctor is going to come out and not condemn rape or say rape is okay. Thus, you should not be judging any of them who did not commit a crime based on your new changed stance. By judging them, you are judging them for no reason then. This should point out how disgusting your lumping of cops together by profession is in an effort to stereotype the profession.
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I feel like if a doctor raped a girl, there would definitely be consequences for the doctor. That's the thing that I think makes people so angry about cops committing crimes. It's bad enough that the ones tasked to protect and serve would do that, but people wouldn't be nearly as up in arms about it if the cops ever got punished for their actions. As it stands, a lot of cops literally get away with murder.
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Corrik posted...

Your immediate response to the post about Peaf was that saw nothing wrong with judging people who do not condemn rape.

Who are you specifically referring to in reponse to Peaf's post and follow up responses?

in peaf's post he said "i judge people who support or do not condemn rape." seems like a very normal and healthy stance to have. then you and timjab bashed him into the ground, calling him a "bigot" and "sad" and claiming "there's something severely off with him." hence my question: what was so terrible about what peaf said?
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Corrik posted...

Your immediate response to the post about Peaf was that saw nothing wrong with judging people who do not condemn rape.

Who are you specifically referring to in reponse to Peaf's post and follow up responses?

in peaf's post he said "i judge people who support or do not condemn rape." seems like a very normal and healthy stance to have. then you and timjab bashed him into the ground, calling him a "bigot" and "sad" and claiming "there's something severely off with him." hence my question: what was so terrible about what peaf said?

He didn't say that. He said if multiple in a profession commited rape and were found not guilty he would judge ALL in that profession, especially ones who did not condemn it.

Wrong.

That doesn't even point out that people found not guilty can actually be not guilty.
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ok, i didn't quote him entirely correctly.
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Corrik posted...

So just changing what you said and got called out on

do you know how the word "if" works
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KamikazePotato posted...

if the cops ever got punished for their actions

well these cops got their badges taken away for a couple weeks so that proves they face real consequences and aren't above the law
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KamikazePotato posted...

I feel like if a doctor raped a girl, there would definitely be consequences for the doctor. That's the thing that I think makes people so angry about cops committing crimes. It's bad enough that the ones tasked to protect and serve would do that, but people wouldn't be nearly as up in arms about it if the cops ever got punished for their actions. As it stands, a lot of cops literally get away with murder.

it's hilarious to me that people still think their arguments should be taken seriously when they use ridiculous absolutes like this. "no cop has ever been punished for committing a crime you guys, not even the two cops this topic is about who were punished for committing a crime!"

these cops that you believe "got away with murder" faced a grand jury like any citizen would. they weren't indicted because there was no evidence they committed murder, because they didn't. your own ignorance as to how policing works and how quickly it can go south isn't taken into account in a court of law.
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There are a lot of things not taken into account in a court of law. Especially when an officer is involved.
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Oh hey tim really followed my satire and equated getting a temporary suspension from work to going to prison for a horribly violent crime
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If policing "goes south" so easily to the point that innocent civilians have to die because of it, maybe something is wrong with policing.
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I like how he uses "things can go south" as a euphemism for cops escalating violence and shooting people for no reason
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Policing doesn't go south, the behavior of these "innocent civilians" does.

I have been in an apartment responding to a domestic assault and had a man rush me with a giant knife from behind a door, in close quarters. I am not unique in this and this is not the only life threatening scenario I have found myself in. I didn't even have time to shoot that guy otherwise I would have, and I would have slept like a baby knowing I did the right thing.

I have also responded to a call of a man with a gun, a man who thought it was a good idea to reach down into his waistband, where we thought he was keeping a gun, and pull out a black cell phone to throw at us. This was apparently his genius idea to show us that he wasn't carrying a gun, and it almost got him shot, because we don't have the benefit of hindsight in split second scenarios like so many SJW liberals do after the fact. He wouldn't have been the first guy to pull out a gun and start a shootout with cops for no reason.

The SJW idea of how cops should behave would result in a shit ton of dead cops, but that's probably the point. I laugh every time someone like Peace Frog says we need more training from behind his keyboard though, as he has never recieved a second of law enforcement training or done a second of police work and that is why he has no idea what the fuck he is talking about.

So no Jakyl, maybe something is wrong with you.
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2 examples of cops eager and happy to shoot people in order to prove cops aren't eager and happy to shoot people...
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And when cops are caught planting evidence, boldly exclaiming "I'm going to kill this guy" regarding a fleeing unarmed suspect and then doing so, or in this case, raping a woman in handcuffs?

"Muh job's hard guys." Yeah, it absolutely is and I don't doubt for a second that the things you're describing in your post actually happened. I'd even agree you would be justified in at least the first case (and more likely than not the second as well). But stop using it as a shield for when your fellow "brothers in blue" kettle protesters with normal people and pepper spray / arrest them for "failing to disperse." Stop using it for militarizing troops that instigate violence on protesters and then whine about water bottles being thrown at them. And yes, both of these happened in St. Louis.

This is why people treat so many cops as pigs. Because all too often, a cop is just a thug with a badge, as my dad told me despite being a lieutenant himself. You might not be one, Tim. But you need to stop blindly defending those that are with pathetic deflections and a massive sense of entitlement.
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trdl23 posted...

And when cops are caught planting evidence, boldly exclaiming "I'm going to kill this guy" regarding a fleeing unarmed suspect and then doing so, or in this case, raping a woman in handcuffs?

"Muh job's hard guys." Yeah, it absolutely is and I don't doubt for a second that the things you're describing in your post actually happened. I'd even agree you would be justified in at least the first case (and more likely than not the second as well). But stop using it as a shield for when your fellow "brothers in blue" kettle protesters with normal people and pepper spray / arrest them for "failing to disperse." Stop using it for militarizing troops that instigate violence on protesters and then whine about water bottles being thrown at them. And yes, both of these happened in St. Louis.

This is why people treat so many cops as pigs. Because all too often, a cop is just a thug with a badge, as my dad told me despite being a lieutenant himself. You might not be one, Tim. But you need to stop blindly defending those that are with pathetic deflections and a massive sense of entitlement.

TRDL is again lying in regards to this case.

The cop was not "caught" planting evidence. He was surmised to have planted evidence.

Like, your arguments are so much better when you stop exaggerating or outright lying to try and prove your points. Stick to the facts and your arguments will be better, and you may see some of your arguments are frivolous.
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Also, I think it is pretty disgusting that GameFAQs does not automatically accept a moderation on every post that calls a cop a "pig". It is a hateword against cops which is no different than calling a Black person a different zoo animal.

The fact GameFAQs does not consider that an offensive moderation is outrageous.
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It's not at all the same because if a black person doesn't want to be called a monkey, they can just not go through the years of training in Blackness Academy and give up their Black Race members card, whereas cops have no way to avoid being called pigs
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Corrik posted...

The cop was not "caught" planting evidence. He was surmised to have planted evidence.

To be frank I wasn't intending to refer to St. Louis here specifically here even though it seems pretty obvious to anyone who understands that DNA =/= fingerprints. But it is absolutely a thing that happens, especially in the past with Detroit PD.

Corrik posted...

Stick to the facts and your arguments will be better, and you may see some of your arguments are frivolous.

I do have to call this out, given the source.

Corrik posted...

Also, I think it is pretty disgusting that GameFAQs does not automatically accept a moderation on every post that calls a cop a "pig".

Cops are not a race. I'll cool it though. It's not actually helping anything even if it is cathartic for me.
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Corrik posted...

Also, I think it is pretty disgusting that GameFAQs does not automatically accept a moderation on every post that calls a cop a "pig". It is a hateword against cops which is no different than calling a Black person a different zoo animal.

The fact GameFAQs does not consider that an offensive moderation is outrageous.

Lol at admitting marking someone for moderation.
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uh, insulting people who don't post here isn't moddable.

donald trump is an asshole. have fun trying to get me modded for this post!

the reason why calling black people a zoo animal is moddable is because it's racist and racism isn't allowed. saying "cops are pigs" isn't racist. edit: oh, trdl already made this point.

(calling timjab is a pig probably IS moddable.)
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timjab is a pig
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b7
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

uh, insulting people who don't post here isn't moddable.

donald trump is an asshole. have fun trying to get me modded for this post!

the reason why calling black people a zoo animal is moddable is because it's racist and racism isn't allowed. saying "cops are pigs" isn't racist. edit: oh, trdl already made this point.

(calling timjab is a pig probably IS moddable.)

It is a stupid argument. You are calling a subset of people a demeaning word which is used to insult, demean, and mock.

A board should not tolerate the fact that its members could be cops or have family members/lived ones who are and that you are by doing so insulting thise potential members or members families out of nothing but just pure disdain and ignorant thinking.

The fact you cannot grasp what you are doing wrong while also circling the wagons on your social justice crusade is a pure contradiction and speaks to the level you should be taken seriously.

Like, you are stereotyping and insulting a subset of people. Hello! Common fucking sense here.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

timjab is a pig

lol such a badass
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Don't we call cops "pigs" because of Animal Farm, or do I have the wrong dystopian novel in mind?
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BowserCuffs posted...

Don't we call cops "pigs" because of Animal Farm, or do I have the wrong dystopian novel in mind?

No. Nothing to do with animal farm.

Simply a derogatory word used against police.

Why Police Officers are Sometimes Called Pigs

Unlike so many other nicknames for the police, such as cops and the fuzz, this particular term has a relatively well known origin. You see, starting around the sixteenth century pig began being used in English as a derogatory term for people, whether police or not, as it still sometimes is used today.

It took about three more centuries, but this particular insult inevitably became a popular nickname for oft-insulted police officers, with the first documented reference to this being in the Dictionary of Buckish Slang, University Wit and Pickpocket Eloquence, published in London in 1811.

False explanations for the term involve the gas masks worn by the riot police in that era, or the pigs in charge of George Orwell's Animal Farm.
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Like, you are stereotyping and insulting a subset of people. Hello! Common f***ing sense here.

I feel like we may have had this exact conversation before, but stereotyping or insulting people based on things they choose to do is ok and not all contradictory with thinking it's bad to stereotype people based on their race or whatever. There's nothing wrong with judging people based on their choices.
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Rapists are assholes.

I'm basically a nazi now, omg
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Corrik posted...

It is a stupid argument. You are calling a subset of people a demeaning word which is used to insult, demean, and mock.

A board should not tolerate the fact that its members could be cops or have family members/lived ones who are and that you are by doing so insulting thise potential members or members families out of nothing but just pure disdain and ignorant thinking.

The fact you cannot grasp what you are doing wrong while also circling the wagons on your social justice crusade is a pure contradiction and speaks to the level you should be taken seriously.

Like, you are stereotyping and insulting a subset of people. Hello! Common fucking sense here.

if i had to guess, i'd say "all cops are pigs" is at the very least borderline moddable because, as you said, there's a chance there are cops on the board. we know for a fact we have at least one cop posting here. so this doesn't fall into the "insulting people who don't come to the boards" category i was describing.

aside from that, i'm not entirely sure why you're attacking me and insulting me - i'm not saying cops are pigs, i'm just explaining the rules on this site. you went "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE A POST CALLING A COP A PIG DIDN'T GET MODDED." yeah, posts that aren't against the ToU usually don't get modded. shocker. feel free to make a topic on hellhole about your problems with the rules on this site.
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i don't get offended by the term "pig" because i'm not a wuss that gets offended by words that haven't had power in 200 years, even though cops are still subject to the same discrimnation as back then if not worse, unlike certain groups of people
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Like, you are stereotyping and insulting a subset of people. Hello! Common f***ing sense here.

I feel like we may have had this exact conversation before, but stereotyping or insulting people based on things they choose to do is ok and not all contradictory with thinking it's bad to stereotype people based on their race or whatever. There's nothing wrong with judging people based on their choices.

It does do an injustice to actually good cops though. That might seem a simple point but there are honest and thoughtful ones who got into it for the right reasons and have humility.

But it definitely isn't on the level of actual racism, and that comparison shouldn't be drawn. Your career choices say things about you and it is, to some extent, ok to question what motivates those choices. Sometimes good and noble stuff, sometimes not.
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XIII_rocks posted...

It does do an injustice to actually good cops though. That might seem a simple point but there are honest and thoughtful ones who got into it for the right reasons and have humility.

For all my vitriol, this is 100% true. There are plenty of true believers out there determined to do the right thing. Unfortunately, they're often intimidated into indifference by the bad ones, but even though plenty of cops are awful, there are also plenty of legitimate heroes, too.
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I think a lot of people (even on the side of the protesters) miss the nuance of the idea that it's the system that enables bad cops that is being protested, not the cops themselves.

Besides the ones that have already done something bad, of course.
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When exactly did cops start acting like they're a race of people (despite being, you know, a JOB that they CHOSE)?
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Espeon posted...

When exactly did cops start acting like they're a race of people (despite being, you know, a JOB that they CHOSE)?

Since people started calling them out
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trdl23 posted...

Espeon posted...

When exactly did cops start acting like they're a race of people (despite being, you know, a JOB that they CHOSE)?

Since people started calling them out

So we should be able to insult and demean transgenders because they chose to undergo sex change? Stay consistent. You are being deragotory.
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You still don't understand what it means to be transgender and at this point it has to be willful ignorance.

But that's another topic
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Corrik posted...

trdl23 posted...

Espeon posted...

When exactly did cops start acting like they're a race of people (despite being, you know, a JOB that they CHOSE)?

Since people started calling them out

So we should be able to insult and demean transgenders because they chose to undergo sex change? Stay consistent. You are being deragotory.

Not all transgender people undergo reassignment surgery.
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Espeon posted...

Corrik posted...

trdl23 posted...

Espeon posted...

When exactly did cops start acting like they're a race of people (despite being, you know, a JOB that they CHOSE)?

Since people started calling them out

So we should be able to insult and demean transgenders because they chose to undergo sex change? Stay consistent. You are being deragotory.

Not all transgender people undergo reassignment surgery.

I said so you are arguing that those who do are allowed to be demeaned as seen fit because they chose to do so?

Why do you have to keep making arguments who it is allowable to be derogatory against and who isn't?
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Corrik posted...

Espeon posted...

Corrik posted...

trdl23 posted...

Espeon posted...

When exactly did cops start acting like they're a race of people (despite being, you know, a JOB that they CHOSE)?

Since people started calling them out

So we should be able to insult and demean transgenders because they chose to undergo sex change? Stay consistent. You are being deragotory.

Not all transgender people undergo reassignment surgery.

I said so you are arguing that those who do are allowed to be demeaned as seen fit because they chose to do so?

Why do you have to keep making arguments who it is allowable to be derogatory against and who isn't?

I'm arguing that you don't understand transgender issues and are making a fallacious argument on an appeal to emotion.
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not to mention transgender people don't get paid to exist
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If transgender people start shootings people en masse and getting away with it then perhaps we can consider a correlation

But aren't people complaining about cop behavior and not cop existence here

But seriously cops shooting people is a more difficult subject because suspects frequently do act bizarre or violent and while not a cop I can respect its hard job to know when to act sometimes and not all the cases are open or shut either way: I'm unsure when raping someone is self defense however.
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CelesMyUserName posted...

not to mention transgender people don't get paid to exist

Especially not paid by our tax dollars.
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