o Girl and got her PREGNANT gets JOINT CUSTODY!!!

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mrduckbear 10/08/17 9:04:12 PM #1:	Do you think this jerk should be allowed to see his son?? Yes No View Results 27 y/o Rapist Jerk, Christopher Mirasolo from Michigan has been granted JOINT CUSTODY of his 8 y/o son who was conceived when he RAPED the boy's mother in 2008 when she was just 12!! He was granted legal joint custody and parenting time after a positive paternity results confirmed he was the father...and now the victim's attorney is seeking protection for the victim and her son under the federal Rape Survivor Child Custod Act This is the firt of its kind in Michigan, if not the United States as the victim is not named who is now 21 Rebecca Kiessling, the victim's attorney said "This is insane". The victim ssays Christopher forcibly raped and threatened to kill her 9 years ago when the attacker was 18 The victim said she and her 13 y/o sister and a friend snuck out to meet up with a boy and his older friend..it was Christopher who was that older friend that asked them if they wanted to go for a ride. They thought they would go to McDonalds but Christopher took their phones and threw them out before driving them to Detroit to steal gas and kept the captive for 2 days in an empty house..he raped the younger sister and then released them but threatened to kill them if they told anyone what happened. A month later, the 12 y/o became pregnant and Christopher was arrested Kiessling said "The victim and her family were told first time sex offenders weren't sent to prison because people come out worse after they go there. Nothing has been right about this since it was originally investigated. He was never properly charged and should be sitting behind bars somewhere, but the system is victimizing my client, who was a child herself when this all happened" Christopher could have gotten a life sentence or no less than 25 years but he was given a plea for attempted 3rd degree criminal sexual conduct and got 1 year in prison...but he didn't serve a whole year as he was let out after 6 months to care for his sick mother!! Judge Gregory S Ross made the decision to grant custody and then gave her HOME ADDRESS and orered her to add his name to the child's birth certificate!!...and all of that was done without her CONSENT!!. The victim said "I think this is all crazy. The police never explained anythin got me. I was receiving about $260 a month in food stamps for me and my son and health insurance for him. I guess they were trying to see how to get some money back"..The victim is not allowed to move 100 miles from her current address as well This isn't Christopher's ONLY Rape charge either as he raped a girl between 13 and 15 but was only jailed for 4 years in 2010!! Do you think this jerk should be allowed to see his son?? Christopher - Rapist http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/08/23/45277D4800000578-4961122-image-a-1_1507502630867.jpg Judge Greg Ross - Gave Custody http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/08/23/4527BAAC00000578-4961122-image-a-4_1507502641476.jpg --- Every time a Gamefaqs User PROVES they Stepped on a Bug, i will STOP Posting for 24 Hours...Beware, this is NOT a good thing to do!! <cite>mrduckbear posted [p:888067306] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote> Do you think this jerk should be allowed to see his son?? Yes No View Results 27 y/o Rapist Jerk, Christopher Mirasolo from Michigan has been granted JOINT CUSTODY of his 8 y/o son who was conceived when he RAPED the boy's mother in 2008 when she was just 12!! He was granted legal joint custody and parenting time after a positive paternity results confirmed he was the father...and now the victim's attorney is seeking protection for the victim and her son under the federal Rape Survivor Child Custod Act This is the firt of its kind in Michigan, if not the United States as the victim is not named who is now 21 Rebecca Kiessling, the victim's attorney said "This is insane". The victim ssays Christopher forcibly raped and threatened to kill her 9 years ago when the attacker was 18 The victim said she and her 13 y/o sister and a friend snuck out to meet up with a boy and his older friend..it was Christopher who was that older friend that asked them if they wanted to go for a ride. They thought they would go to McDonalds but Christopher took their phones and threw them out before driving them to Detroit to steal gas and kept the captive for 2 days in an empty house..he raped the younger sister and then released them but threatened to kill them if they told anyone what happened. A month later, the 12 y/o became pregnant and Christopher was arrested Kiessling said "The victim and her family were told first time sex offenders weren't sent to prison because people come out worse after they go there. Nothing has been right about this since it was originally investigated. He was never properly charged and should be sitting behind bars somewhere, but the system is victimizing my client, who was a child herself when this all happened" Christopher could have gotten a life sentence or no less than 25 years but he was given a plea for attempted 3rd degree criminal sexual conduct and got 1 year in prison...but he didn't serve a whole year as he was let out after 6 months to care for his sick mother!! Judge Gregory S Ross made the decision to grant custody and then gave her HOME ADDRESS and orered her to add his name to the child's birth certificate!!...and all of that was done without her CONSENT!!. The victim said "I think this is all crazy. The police never explained anythin got me. I was receiving about $260 a month in food stamps for me and my son and health insurance for him. I guess they were trying to see how to get some money back"..The victim is not allowed to move 100 miles from her current address as well This isn't Christopher's ONLY Rape charge either as he raped a girl between 13 and 15 but was only jailed for 4 years in 2010!! Do you think this jerk should be allowed to see his son?? Christopher - Rapist http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/08/23/45277D4800000578-4961122-image-a-1_1507502630867.jpg Judge Greg Ross - Gave Custody http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/10/08/23/4527BAAC00000578-4961122-image-a-4_1507502641476.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheCyborgNinja 10/08/17 9:06:12 PM #2:	Well, just tell him from an early age that dad is a rapist and raise him to hate him. Then one day he might even kill him. Itd be poetic. --- "message parlor" ? do you mean the post office ? - SlayerX888 <cite>TheCyborgNinja posted [p:888067430] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote>Well, just tell him from an early age that dad is a rapist and raise him to hate him. Then one day he might even kill him. Itd be poetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 10/08/17 9:08:07 PM #3:	mrduckbear posted... Do you think this jerk should be allowed to see his son? I'm all for a kid having both parents in their life however in this situation this waste of life gave up any rights he has as a farther due to physically forcing himself on a kid. I question why he has the right to his own life never-mind about the one he created. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - http://i.imgur.com/kDysIcd.gif <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:888067556] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>mrduckbear posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think this jerk should be allowed to see his son?</quote> I'm all for a kid having both parents in their life however in this situation this waste of life gave up any rights he has as a farther due to physically forcing himself on a kid. I question why he has the right to his own life never-mind about the one he created.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/08/17 9:09:50 PM #4:	This is why radical feminists believe men get treated better in custody cases; backwards, batshit places that spit on the spirit of the law for no fucking reason. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:888067667] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote>This is why radical feminists believe men get treated better in custody cases; backwards, batshit places that spit on the spirit of the law for no fucking reason.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler X 10/08/17 9:20:01 PM #5:	mrduckbear posted... A month later, the 12 y/o became pregnant and Christopher was arrested So he is not the father? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! <cite>Nichtcrawler X posted [p:888068294] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>mrduckbear posted...</cite> <quote>A month later, the 12 y/o became pregnant and Christopher was arrested</quote> So he is not the father?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Syntheticon 10/09/17 12:33:21 AM #6:	Not only should he not be allowed to see the kid, the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... --- Mod me? You don't even know me! <cite>Syntheticon posted [p:888079664] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote>Not only should he not be allowed to see the kid, the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 10/09/17 1:52:26 AM #7:	Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? <cite>Tezlok posted [p:888082828] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/09/17 2:03:38 AM #8:	I imagine that law is going to get amended in short order. Otherwise, while we're focused on the parents -- the girl who shouldn't have to endure this and the man who absolutely shouldn't have any right to his son -- a child does have some right to their parents and he may suffer from being deprived. Granted, those visits need to be supervised to limit any corrosive moral influence. Kyuubi4269 posted... This is why radical feminists believe men get treated better in custody cases; I'm fairly certain none actually believe that for a second and just claim it to advance their agendas. mrduckbear posted... Kiessling said "The victim and her family were told first time sex offenders weren't sent to prison because people come out worse after they go there. Nothing has been right about this since it was originally investigated. He was never properly charged and should be sitting behind bars somewhere, but the system is victimizing my client, who was a child herself when this all happened" Somehow this doesn't seem like a first-offense leniency sort of case. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:888083204] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote>I imagine that law is going to get amended in short order. Otherwise, while we're focused on the parents -- the girl who shouldn't have to endure this and the man who absolutely shouldn't have any right to his son -- a child does have some right to their parents and he may suffer from being deprived. Granted, those visits need to be supervised to limit any corrosive moral influence. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>This is why radical feminists believe men get treated better in custody cases;</quote> I'm fairly certain none actually believe that for a second and just claim it to advance their agendas. <cite>mrduckbear posted...</cite> <quote>Kiessling said "The victim and her family were told first time sex offenders weren't sent to prison because people come out worse after they go there. Nothing has been right about this since it was originally investigated. He was never properly charged and should be sitting behind bars somewhere, but the system is victimizing my client, who was a child herself when this all happened" </quote> Somehow this doesn't seem like a first-offense leniency sort of case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Syntheticon 10/09/17 2:03:55 AM #9:	Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The kid is a rape baby, what do you think I mean? --- Mod me? You don't even know me! <cite>Syntheticon posted [p:888083210] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The kid is a rape baby, what do you think I mean?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/09/17 2:06:09 AM #10:	Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:888083289] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/09/17 2:08:23 AM #11:	Everything about that guy sucks Basically just make him and people like him work a chain gang for the rest of his life and send whatever money made from his labors to the victim. Also feed him bad food forever and even sprinkle a little dirt into it sometimes, because seriously fuck him. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" <cite>Mead posted [p:888083363] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote>Everything about that guy sucks Basically just make him and people like him work a chain gang for the rest of his life and send whatever money made from his labors to the victim. Also feed him bad food forever and even sprinkle a little dirt into it sometimes, because seriously fuck him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DistantMemory 10/09/17 2:10:39 AM #12:	Zeus posted... Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will. Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view. <cite>DistantMemory posted [p:888083434] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will.</quote> Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 10/09/17 2:19:22 AM #13:	Zeus posted... Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will. You didn't even realize Carlisle was back, ok? Do you remember when you said you worked for the DoD, I do, ok? --- http://i.imgur.com/qL0DHFI.gif http://i.imgur.com/JL9rRLt.gif https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:888083751] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will.</quote> You didn't even realize Carlisle was back, ok? Do you remember when you said you worked for the DoD, I do, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/09/17 2:28:01 AM #14:	DistantMemory posted... Zeus posted... Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will. Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view. Forcing a child to abort thus inflicting two traumas on her? Those would be horrible people. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:888084018] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>DistantMemory posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will.</quote> Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view.</quote> Forcing a child to abort thus inflicting two traumas on her? Those would be horrible people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Syntheticon 10/09/17 2:32:58 AM #15:	DistantMemory posted... Zeus posted... Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will. Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view. This. Also, Zeus complaining about a troll is like a sailor complaining about being on a boat but 'against her will' is a difficult issue when the victim is 12. Whoever suggested or had her carry the child to term is guilty of negligence and by forcing someone too young to deal with the consequences of this monster's actions they're only compounding the trauma she has to go through. Not to mention that from a eugenical standpoint, we don't need anyone with his DNA running around, especially with the issues that kid is going to have. --- Mod me? You don't even know me! <cite>Syntheticon posted [p:888084181] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>DistantMemory posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will.</quote> Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view.</quote>This. Also, Zeus complaining about a troll is like a sailor complaining about being on a boat but 'against her will' is a difficult issue when the victim is 12. Whoever suggested or had her carry the child to term is guilty of negligence and by forcing someone too young to deal with the consequences of this monster's actions they're only compounding the trauma she has to go through. Not to mention that from a eugenical standpoint, we don't need anyone with his DNA running around, especially with the issues that kid is going to have.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 10/09/17 2:33:29 AM #16:	Zeus posted... DistantMemory posted... Zeus posted... Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will. Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view. Forcing a child to abort thus inflicting two traumas on her? Those would be horrible people. Making her gestate, birth, and raise a constant reminder she was molested for 18 years is obviously the best choice for her, ok? --- http://i.imgur.com/qL0DHFI.gif http://i.imgur.com/JL9rRLt.gif https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:888084198] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DistantMemory posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will.</quote> Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view.</quote> Forcing a child to abort thus inflicting two traumas on her? Those would be horrible people.</quote> Making her gestate, birth, and raise a constant reminder she was molested for 18 years is obviously the best choice for her, ok?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/09/17 2:37:12 AM #17:	I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" <cite>Mead posted [p:888084313] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceDragon77 10/09/17 2:41:34 AM #18:	I cannot comprehend why a rape victim would ever want to give birth to a child that is just a constant reminder of the worst night of their life. Not to mention she was fucking 12! Who on earth thinks a 12 year old is capable of raising a child. 12 year olds can't even fucking take care of themselves. This world is overpopulated as is. We don't need rape babies running around adding to the problem. --- http://i.imgur.com/xWWX5xm.jpg Thanks Fellwolf! <cite>IceDragon77 posted [p:888084456] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote>I cannot comprehend why a rape victim would ever want to give birth to a child that is just a constant reminder of the worst night of their life. Not to mention she was fucking 12! Who on earth thinks a 12 year old is capable of raising a child. 12 year olds can't even fucking take care of themselves. This world is overpopulated as is. We don't need rape babies running around adding to the problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DistantMemory 10/09/17 2:42:17 AM #19:	Syntheticon posted... DistantMemory posted... Zeus posted... Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will. Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view. This. Also, Zeus complaining about a troll is like a sailor complaining about being on a boat' I'm confused. I imagine you're trying to say that Zeus is a troll himself, but then you would have needed to say that it's like a sailor complaining about being a sailor. Unless you mean to say that trolls in some way carry Zeus or allow him to go on functioning. <cite>DistantMemory posted [p:888084476] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DistantMemory posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will.</quote> Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view.</quote>This. Also, Zeus complaining about a troll is like a sailor complaining about being on a boat'</quote> I'm confused. I imagine you're trying to say that Zeus is a troll himself, but then you would have needed to say that it's like a sailor complaining about being a sailor. Unless you mean to say that trolls in some way carry Zeus or allow him to go on functioning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceDragon77 10/09/17 2:42:21 AM #20:	Mead posted... I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. When the woman is a child themselves? --- http://i.imgur.com/xWWX5xm.jpg Thanks Fellwolf! <cite>IceDragon77 posted [p:888084480] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote> When the woman is a child themselves?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/09/17 2:45:19 AM #21:	IceDragon77 posted... Mead posted... I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. When the woman is a child themselves? Mead posted... I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" <cite>Mead posted [p:888084555] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>IceDragon77 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote> When the woman is a child themselves?</quote> <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceDragon77 10/09/17 2:49:58 AM #22:	Mead posted... IceDragon77 posted... Mead posted... I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. When the woman is a child themselves? Mead posted... I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. But who's paying for the baby's stuff? The 12 year old? Are you saying that a 12 year old should be allowed to force their parents to take care of their rape baby? Child support isn't going to cover it. --- http://i.imgur.com/xWWX5xm.jpg Thanks Fellwolf! <cite>IceDragon77 posted [p:888084685] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IceDragon77 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote> When the woman is a child themselves?</quote> <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote></quote> But who's paying for the baby's stuff? The 12 year old? Are you saying that a 12 year old should be allowed to force their parents to take care of their rape baby? Child support isn't going to cover it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 10/09/17 2:58:09 AM #23:	IceDragon77 posted... I cannot comprehend why a rape victim would ever want to give birth to a child that is just a constant reminder of the worst night of their life. Probably because you're not a woman. And, in general, people don't always act rationally when it comes to their kids. And maybe, just maybe, she's able to see it as the one good thing which came out of an otherwise horrible experience. Plus having the child -- a person who needed her -- may have also helped to stave off suicidal thoughts. At any rate, she's had the kid for 8 years so far -- despite countless opportunities to give it up for adoption -- so clearly she wanted it. IceDragon77 posted... Not to mention she was fucking 12! Who on earth thinks a 12 year old is capable of raising a child. 12 year olds can't even fucking take care of themselves. Clearly she didn't raise him alone. And, given that she had parents involved in the decision to keep the child (who could have pushed for adoption), the child's care was always assured. IceDragon77 posted... This world is overpopulated as is. We don't need rape babies running around adding to the problem. Which brings us back the first point: A girl subjected to trauma shouldn't have to suffer the additional trauma of being forced to abort. DistantMemory posted... Syntheticon posted... This. Also, Zeus complaining about a troll is like a sailor complaining about being on a boat' I'm confused. I imagine you're trying to say that Zeus is a troll himself, but then you would have needed to say that it's like a sailor complaining about being a sailor. Unless you mean to say that trolls in some way carry Zeus or allow him to go on functioning. It's a weird metaphor but I'm assuming he means that dealing with trolls is intrinsic to being on a board, as a matter of you kinda know what you're getting into. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| In Zeus We Trust: All Others Pay Cash <cite>Zeus posted [p:888084887] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>IceDragon77 posted...</cite> <quote>I cannot comprehend why a rape victim would ever want to give birth to a child that is just a constant reminder of the worst night of their life. </quote> Probably because you're not a woman. And, in general, people don't always act rationally when it comes to their kids. And maybe, just maybe, she's able to see it as the one good thing which came out of an otherwise horrible experience. Plus having the child -- a person who needed her -- may have also helped to stave off suicidal thoughts. At any rate, she's had the kid for 8 years so far -- despite countless opportunities to give it up for adoption -- so clearly she wanted it. <cite>IceDragon77 posted...</cite> <quote>Not to mention she was fucking 12! Who on earth thinks a 12 year old is capable of raising a child. 12 year olds can't even fucking take care of themselves.</quote> Clearly she didn't raise him alone. And, given that she had parents involved in the decision to keep the child (who could have pushed for adoption), the child's care was always assured. <cite>IceDragon77 posted...</cite> <quote>This world is overpopulated as is. We don't need rape babies running around adding to the problem.</quote> Which brings us back the first point: A girl subjected to trauma shouldn't have to suffer the additional trauma of being forced to abort. <cite>DistantMemory posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>This. Also, Zeus complaining about a troll is like a sailor complaining about being on a boat'</quote> I'm confused. I imagine you're trying to say that Zeus is a troll himself, but then you would have needed to say that it's like a sailor complaining about being a sailor. Unless you mean to say that trolls in some way carry Zeus or allow him to go on functioning.</quote> It's a weird metaphor but I'm assuming he means that dealing with trolls is intrinsic to being on a board, as a matter of you kinda know what you're getting into.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Syntheticon 10/09/17 3:01:46 AM #24:	DistantMemory posted... Syntheticon posted... DistantMemory posted... Zeus posted... Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will. Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view. This. Also, Zeus complaining about a troll is like a sailor complaining about being on a boat' I'm confused. I imagine you're trying to say that Zeus is a troll himself, but then you would have needed to say that it's like a sailor complaining about being a sailor. Unless you mean to say that trolls in some way carry Zeus or allow him to go on functioning. Well, as long as you're focused on what's important here lol --- Mod me? You don't even know me! <cite>Syntheticon posted [p:888085001] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>DistantMemory posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DistantMemory posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The troll is advocating that the mother be forced to abort, against her will.</quote> Not necessarily trolling. I imagine a fair bit of people would share that view.</quote>This. Also, Zeus complaining about a troll is like a sailor complaining about being on a boat'</quote> I'm confused. I imagine you're trying to say that Zeus is a troll himself, but then you would have needed to say that it's like a sailor complaining about being a sailor. Unless you mean to say that trolls in some way carry Zeus or allow him to go on functioning.</quote>Well, as long as you're focused on what's important here lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 10/09/17 3:05:14 AM #25:	Throw him in prison for life and let the convicts deal with him! --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:888085101] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote>Throw him in prison for life and let the convicts deal with him!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Syntheticon 10/09/17 3:05:31 AM #26:	Mead posted... I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. Agreed, forcing her would be additionally traumatic but frankly in this case I'd have no hesitation about having her anesthetized and the procedure done the moment they found out, telling her it was precautionary or whatever she needed to hear in order for a 12yo child to make sense of the horrific thing that was done to her. Unless you're willing to adopt her rape baby, you have no place suggesting that she could make an informed choice or that it shouldn't be done as the most humane thing for her and the child. --- Mod me? You don't even know me! <cite>Syntheticon posted [p:888085108] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote>Agreed, forcing her would be additionally traumatic but frankly in this case I'd have no hesitation about having her anesthetized and the procedure done the moment they found out, telling her it was precautionary or whatever she needed to hear in order for a 12yo child to make sense of the horrific thing that was done to her. Unless you're willing to adopt her rape baby, you have no place suggesting that she could make an informed choice or that it shouldn't be done as the most humane thing for her and the child.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 10/09/17 3:05:52 AM #27:	IceDragon77 posted... Mead posted... IceDragon77 posted... Mead posted... I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. When the woman is a child themselves? Mead posted... I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. But who's paying for the baby's stuff? The 12 year old? Are you saying that a 12 year old should be allowed to force their parents to take care of their rape baby? Child support isn't going to cover it. She'll need financial assitance to be sure. It is up to the parents how much they want to support her. The rest will unfortunately come from government assistance programs which come with their own set of disadvantages to a young mother. But we do not force mothers to abort a child based on their means, regardless of age. Doing so would begin a frankly frightening precedent. If she had wanted an abortion she absolutely should have been able to have the procedure done, but no one else should be able to make that decision but her. --- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mead "I'm Mary Poppins ya'll!" <cite>Mead posted [p:888085121] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>IceDragon77 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IceDragon77 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote> When the woman is a child themselves?</quote> <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote></quote> But who's paying for the baby's stuff? The 12 year old? Are you saying that a 12 year old should be allowed to force their parents to take care of their rape baby? Child support isn't going to cover it.</quote> She'll need financial assitance to be sure. It is up to the parents how much they want to support her. The rest will unfortunately come from government assistance programs which come with their own set of disadvantages to a young mother. But we do not force mothers to abort a child based on their means, regardless of age. Doing so would begin a frankly frightening precedent. If she had wanted an abortion she absolutely should have been able to have the procedure done, but no one else should be able to make that decision but her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 10/09/17 3:58:26 AM #28:	Mead posted... I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them. This. And I am very pro choice <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:888086368] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>I can't think of any situation where forcing a woman to abort a child would be appropriate. It should be up to them.</quote> This. And I am very pro choice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tezlok 10/09/17 4:04:23 AM #29:	Syntheticon posted... Tezlok posted... Syntheticon posted... the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue... what do you mean? The kid is a rape baby, what do you think I mean? regardless how you think she should have handled it, she chose to keep the child. it's born now. it's fucked up to say "you should have been aborted" <cite>Tezlok posted [p:888086485] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Syntheticon posted...</cite> <quote>the kid really shouldn't exist for this to be an issue...</quote> what do you mean?</quote> The kid is a rape baby, what do you think I mean?</quote> regardless how you think she should have handled it, she chose to keep the child. it's born now. it's fucked up to say "you should have been aborted"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 10/11/17 5:56:03 PM #30:	Tezlok posted... she chose to keep the child Did she choose at 12? --- http://i.imgur.com/qL0DHFI.gif http://i.imgur.com/JL9rRLt.gif https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:888251490] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote>she chose to keep the child</quote> Did she choose at 12?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thecolorgreen 10/11/17 6:33:57 PM #31:	ClarkDuke posted... Tezlok posted... she chose to keep the child Did she choose at 12? yes --- :wq <cite>thecolorgreen posted [p:888253526] in Michigan M... [t:75858700]...</cite> <quote><cite>ClarkDuke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tezlok posted...</cite> <quote>she chose to keep the child</quote> Did she choose at 12?</quote> yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Poll of the Day > Michigan Man who RAPED a 12 y/o Girl and got her PREGNANT gets JOINT CUSTODY!!! (+) Yeah! (+)

Poll of the Day > Michigan Man who RAPED a 12 y/o Girl and got her PREGNANT gets JOINT CUSTODY!!!