Poll of the Day > Eminem blasts Trump in freestyle at the BET Hip Hop Awards.

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Unfernal_Server 10/11/17 9:08:22 PM #52:	KStateKing17 posted... Kyuubi4269 posted... KStateKing17 posted... Who said it was only for black people only? Zeus posted... BLACK Entertainment Television hip hop award. Places that don't exclude don't have exclusive names. That's not true considering that BET has awarded/nominated multiple non black talents over the years. Black entertainment is a broad term used to describe the media that is mostly influenced, created by, and popular with black audiences. This is obvious to most people, but some people (like those in this topic) are inspired to argue in bad faith. They know the BET isn't exclusive / racist.. --- =^..^= <cite>Unfernal_Server posted [p:888262493] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>Who said it was only for black people only?</quote> <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>BLACK Entertainment Television hip hop award.</quote> Places that don't exclude don't have exclusive names.</quote> That's not true considering that BET has awarded/nominated multiple non black talents over the years. Black entertainment is a broad term used to describe the media that is mostly influenced, created by, and popular with black audiences.</quote> This is obvious to most people, but some people (like those in this topic) are inspired to argue in bad faith. They know the BET isn't exclusive / racist..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 10/11/17 9:09:45 PM #53:	Unfernal_Server posted... They know the BET isn't exclusive / racist.. They wouldn't know because they probably never watch BET, lol --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:888262560] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unfernal_Server posted...</cite> <quote>They know the BET isn't exclusive / racist..</quote> They wouldn't know because they probably never watch BET, lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/11/17 9:12:54 PM #54:	Unfernal_Server posted... This is obvious to most people, but some people (like those in this topic) are inspired to argue in bad faith. They know the BET isn't exclusive / racist.. Considering how anything with the word "white" in it is automatically assumed to be a genocidal organisation, it's fair to assume using other racial terms is also racist. Remember, The Organisation for Furthering Black Interests in the Media isn't actually a big thing, loads of people haven't even heard of it. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:888262758] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unfernal_Server posted...</cite> <quote>This is obvious to most people, but some people (like those in this topic) are inspired to argue in bad faith. They know the BET isn't exclusive / racist..</quote> Considering how anything with the word "white" in it is automatically assumed to be a genocidal organisation, it's fair to assume using other racial terms is also racist. Remember, The Organisation for Furthering Black Interests in the Media isn't actually a big thing, loads of people haven't even heard of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RIP_Supa 10/11/17 9:33:40 PM #55:	It's not really a hard concept if a white person entertains a black audience... black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something Oh, but you guys are arguing about being at the awards... my bad... I want no part in this Smarkil posted... God damn that's cringy. Is that what all like...rap battles are like? In reference to it being a rap battle, effectively, yes. He's dissed the president and we would indeed be in the best timeline if Donald J dropped the nukes and fired back with his own response, but this is not the timeline you are looking for. --- getting laid is easy lmao just post dank memes -PaddysPub <cite>RIP_Supa posted [p:888263935] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote>It's not really a hard concept if a white person entertains a black audience... black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something Oh, but you guys are arguing about being at the awards... my bad... I want no part in this <cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>God damn that's cringy. Is that what all like...rap battles are like?</quote> In reference to it being a rap battle, effectively, yes. He's dissed the president and we would indeed be in the best timeline if Donald J dropped the nukes and fired back with his own response, but this is not the timeline you are looking for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 10/11/17 9:35:03 PM #56:	Zeus posted... Everything in the song is true helIy posted... My mother started screamin', "What are you on, drugs?? Look at you, you're gettin' blood all over my rug!" (Stop!) She beat me over the head with the remote control, Opened a hole and my whole brain fell out of my skull. I picked it up and screamed, "Look b***, what have you done?" sure* it was. i suppose you aren't going to mention the fact that the guy he said did it, sued him for defamation and it was thrown out because, and this is from the judge herself btw, Mr. Bailey complains that his rap is trash so he's seeking compensation in the form of cash. Bailey thinks he's entitled to some monetary gain because Eminem used his name in vain. The lyrics are stories no one would take as fact they're an exaggeration of a childish act. so you apparently know better than a judge who actually presided over the court case about that. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/judge-drops-eminem-rap-20031020 can't wait for you to ignore this, because it directly translates to: the song is made up of made up events and you would have to be incredibly not smart to think otherwise so there you are. --- depressed again morning comes too fast and i'm tired of the routine <cite>helIy posted [p:888264025] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Everything in the song is true</quote> <cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>My mother started screamin', "What are you on, drugs?? Look at you, you're gettin' blood all over my rug!" (Stop!) She beat me over the head with the remote control, Opened a hole and my whole brain fell out of my skull. I picked it up and screamed, "Look b****, what have you done?"</quote> sure it was. i suppose you aren't going to mention the fact that the guy he said did it, sued him for defamation and it was thrown out because, and this is from the judge herself btw, <quote>Mr. Bailey complains that his rap is trash so he's seeking compensation in the form of cash. Bailey thinks he's entitled to some monetary gain because Eminem used his name in vain. The lyrics are stories no one would take as fact they're an exaggeration of a childish act.</quote> so you apparently know better than a judge who actually presided over the court case about that. http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/judge-drops-eminem-rap-20031020 can't wait for you to ignore this, because it directly translates to: the song is made up of made up events and you would have to be incredibly not smart to think otherwise so there you are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yamato_san 10/11/17 9:55:19 PM #57:	RIP_Supa posted... black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected? <cite>Yamato_san posted [p:888265268] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>RIP_Supa posted...</cite> <quote>black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something</quote> Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 10/11/17 9:56:25 PM #58:	Yamato_san posted... Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like civil rights was already something that was said and done a long time ago It seemed that way to...whom? You? --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:888265329] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like civil rights was already something that was said and done a long time ago</quote> It seemed that way to...whom? You?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 10/11/17 9:56:54 PM #59:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Unfernal_Server posted... This is obvious to most people, but some people (like those in this topic) are inspired to argue in bad faith. They know the BET isn't exclusive / racist.. Considering how anything with the word "white" in it is automatically assumed to be a genocidal organisation, it's fair to assume using other racial terms is also racist. Remember, The Organisation for Furthering Black Interests in the Media isn't actually a big thing, loads of people haven't even heard of it. I'm going to pretend you don't know any better because I'm bored. The only time groups put an emphasis on "white" on anything they promote is for impure reasons. A lot of cultural events featuring many white people in America are broken up into their subcultures such as Italian, German, Irish, etc. This is also true for certain Asian and Latino communities who continue to practice traditions and holidays despite being in the US. Their events would be named according to their respective countries of origin. On the other hand, you have black people in America who use the broad term "black" since it's what we have in common since we have no strong connection with our African heritage. Many of us don't know if we originated from Ethiopia, Nigeria, or Egypt. We use black as a blanket term and have done so for a long time since we do not represent those "traditional Americans". --- I've lost the use of my heart, but I'm still alive. <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:888265357] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unfernal_Server posted...</cite> <quote>This is obvious to most people, but some people (like those in this topic) are inspired to argue in bad faith. They know the BET isn't exclusive / racist..</quote> Considering how anything with the word "white" in it is automatically assumed to be a genocidal organisation, it's fair to assume using other racial terms is also racist. Remember, The Organisation for Furthering Black Interests in the Media isn't actually a big thing, loads of people haven't even heard of it.</quote> I'm going to pretend you don't know any better because I'm bored. The only time groups put an emphasis on "white" on anything they promote is for impure reasons. A lot of cultural events featuring many white people in America are broken up into their subcultures such as Italian, German, Irish, etc. This is also true for certain Asian and Latino communities who continue to practice traditions and holidays despite being in the US. Their events would be named according to their respective countries of origin. On the other hand, you have black people in America who use the broad term "black" since it's what we have in common since we have no strong connection with our African heritage. Many of us don't know if we originated from Ethiopia, Nigeria, or Egypt. We use black as a blanket term and have done so for a long time since we do not represent those "traditional Americans".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
keyblader1985 10/11/17 10:02:02 PM #60:	I'm sorry; I just couldn't let this line pass. Yamato_san posted... Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. What in the sweet fuck. --- Official King of PotD You only need one T-Rex to make the point, though. ~ Samus Sedai <cite>keyblader1985 posted [p:888265695] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry; I just couldn't let this line pass. <cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white.</quote> What in the sweet fuck.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 10/11/17 10:02:18 PM #61:	RCtheWSBC posted... Yamato_san posted... Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like civil rights was already something that was said and done a long time ago It seemed that way to...whom? You? Lmao right? --- http://i.imgur.com/4ihiyS2.jpg "I am not gay! Can't you get that through your head? I am very much aroused at the site of a naked woman!" - Dan0429 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:888265711] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like civil rights was already something that was said and done a long time ago</quote> It seemed that way to...whom? You?</quote> Lmao right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCtheWSBC 10/11/17 10:06:39 PM #62:	keyblader1985 posted... I'm sorry; I just couldn't let this line pass. Yamato_san posted... Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. What in the sweet fuck. Ignorance sure is bliss, mirite? In a pregame interview before a radio broadcast of Monday nights game between the Chicago Bears and Minnesota Vikings, he said, There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/10/10/mike-ditka-on-nfl-protests-no-oppression-in-the-last-100-years-that-i-know-of/ --- http://i.imgur.com/1yl1fH0.jpg the White-Sounding Black Chick <cite>RCtheWSBC posted [p:888265966] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>keyblader1985 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry; I just couldn't let this line pass. <cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white.</quote> What in the sweet fuck.</quote> Ignorance sure is bliss, mirite? <quote>In a pregame interview before a radio broadcast of Monday nights game between the Chicago Bears and Minnesota Vikings, he said, There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of.</quote> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/10/10/mike-ditka-on-nfl-protests-no-oppression-in-the-last-100-years-that-i-know-of/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/11/17 10:13:01 PM #63:	KStateKing17 posted... I'm going to pretend you don't know any better because I'm bored. The only time groups put an emphasis on "white" on anything they promote is for impure reasons. A lot of cultural events featuring many white people in America are broken up into their subcultures such as Italian, German, Irish, etc. This is also true for certain Asian and Latino communities who continue to practice traditions and holidays despite being in the US. Their events would be named according to their respective countries of origin. On the other hand, you have black people in America who use the broad term "black" since it's what we have in common since we have no strong connection with our African heritage. Many of us don't know if we originated from Ethiopia, Nigeria, or Egypt. We use black as a blanket term and have done so for a long time since we do not represent those "traditional Americans". There is no Irish or Italian Entertainment Television for entertaining Irish or Italian people even with a "strong connection to their heritage". When you claim there is no identifiable culture or tradition, what exactly is there to differentiate black Americans from any other Americans? You know, beyond wanting to segregate from other Americans based on the colour of their skin. The exact same issue with using "White". --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:888266317] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm going to pretend you don't know any better because I'm bored. The only time groups put an emphasis on "white" on anything they promote is for impure reasons. A lot of cultural events featuring many white people in America are broken up into their subcultures such as Italian, German, Irish, etc. This is also true for certain Asian and Latino communities who continue to practice traditions and holidays despite being in the US. Their events would be named according to their respective countries of origin. On the other hand, you have black people in America who use the broad term "black" since it's what we have in common since we have no strong connection with our African heritage. Many of us don't know if we originated from Ethiopia, Nigeria, or Egypt. We use black as a blanket term and have done so for a long time since we do not represent those "traditional Americans".</quote> There is no Irish or Italian Entertainment Television for entertaining Irish or Italian people even with a "strong connection to their heritage". When you claim there is no identifiable culture or tradition, what exactly is there to differentiate black Americans from any other Americans? You know, beyond wanting to segregate from other Americans based on the colour of their skin. The exact same issue with using "White".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KStateKing17 10/11/17 10:26:14 PM #64:	Kyuubi4269 posted... KStateKing17 posted... I'm going to pretend you don't know any better because I'm bored. The only time groups put an emphasis on "white" on anything they promote is for impure reasons. A lot of cultural events featuring many white people in America are broken up into their subcultures such as Italian, German, Irish, etc. This is also true for certain Asian and Latino communities who continue to practice traditions and holidays despite being in the US. Their events would be named according to their respective countries of origin. On the other hand, you have black people in America who use the broad term "black" since it's what we have in common since we have no strong connection with our African heritage. Many of us don't know if we originated from Ethiopia, Nigeria, or Egypt. We use black as a blanket term and have done so for a long time since we do not represent those "traditional Americans". There is no Irish or Italian Entertainment Television for entertaining Irish or Italian people even with a "strong connection to their heritage". When you claim there is no identifiable culture or tradition, what exactly is there to differentiate black Americans from any other Americans? You know, beyond wanting to segregate from other Americans based on the colour of their skin. The exact same issue with using "White". I wasn't referring to tv exclusively if you had read my post, and a lot of what we produce and talk about is due to the segregation we already had. We had an Irish festival near my job awhile ago that didn't seem to upset our non irish guests. No one had an issue with one man wearing the flag of Ireland as a cape, but let's just thank God it wasn't a Mexican flag. Oh Boy! There are many channel though dedicated to Spanish speaking, LGBT, and women that produce content towards those audiences just like BET and it's affiliates cater to what some would consider "urban" if it makes you feel better to use that term instead, I'm sure you would. --- I've lost the use of my heart, but I'm still alive. <cite>KStateKing17 posted [p:888266987] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm going to pretend you don't know any better because I'm bored. The only time groups put an emphasis on "white" on anything they promote is for impure reasons. A lot of cultural events featuring many white people in America are broken up into their subcultures such as Italian, German, Irish, etc. This is also true for certain Asian and Latino communities who continue to practice traditions and holidays despite being in the US. Their events would be named according to their respective countries of origin. On the other hand, you have black people in America who use the broad term "black" since it's what we have in common since we have no strong connection with our African heritage. Many of us don't know if we originated from Ethiopia, Nigeria, or Egypt. We use black as a blanket term and have done so for a long time since we do not represent those "traditional Americans".</quote> There is no Irish or Italian Entertainment Television for entertaining Irish or Italian people even with a "strong connection to their heritage". When you claim there is no identifiable culture or tradition, what exactly is there to differentiate black Americans from any other Americans? You know, beyond wanting to segregate from other Americans based on the colour of their skin. The exact same issue with using "White".</quote> I wasn't referring to tv exclusively if you had read my post, and a lot of what we produce and talk about is due to the segregation we already had. We had an Irish festival near my job awhile ago that didn't seem to upset our non irish guests. No one had an issue with one man wearing the flag of Ireland as a cape, but let's just thank God it wasn't a Mexican flag. Oh Boy! There are many channel though dedicated to Spanish speaking, LGBT, and women that produce content towards those audiences just like BET and it's affiliates cater to what some would consider "urban" if it makes you feel better to use that term instead, I'm sure you would.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GhostGiblet 10/11/17 10:26:40 PM #65:	Yamato_san posted... Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago I actually think this is something that hurts the discussion about race in America, is that it's kind of presented that way in grade school history classes. Like "There was racism until MLK Jr. asked it to go away". In the 90s, that was only 30 years or less after MLK was assassinated (that should say something about the kind of opposition he faced, too) It just doesn't make sense to me to think that that kind of hatred just disappeared in a few decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States#Civil_Rights_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965 Thought this article was interesting and taught me a bunch of stuff I didn't know, especially about Rosa Parks: https://theintercept.com/2017/10/08/the-sanitizing-of-martin-luther-king-and-rosa-parks/ --- The wannabe artist formerly known as Snoopydance <cite>GhostGiblet posted [p:888267012] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago</quote> I actually think this is something that hurts the discussion about race in America, is that it's kind of presented that way in grade school history classes. Like "There was racism until MLK Jr. asked it to go away". In the 90s, that was only 30 years or less after MLK was assassinated (that should say something about the kind of opposition he faced, too) It just doesn't make sense to me to think that that kind of hatred just disappeared in a few decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States#Civil_Rights_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965 Thought this article was interesting and taught me a bunch of stuff I didn't know, especially about Rosa Parks: https://theintercept.com/2017/10/08/the-sanitizing-of-martin-luther-king-and-rosa-parks/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ferarri619 10/11/17 10:29:03 PM #66:	I tend to lean more to the left, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUAljDBgtb0 Lol --- ~Nintendo 64. Get N or Get out. Coming Fall 1996~ <cite>Ferarri619 posted [p:888267129] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote>I tend to lean more to the left, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUAljDBgtb0 Lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/11/17 10:43:29 PM #67:	KStateKing17 posted... I wasn't referring to tv exclusively if you had read my post, and a lot of what we produce and talk about is due to the segregation we already had. We had an Irish festival near my job awhile ago that didn't seem to upset our non irish guests. No one had an issue with one man wearing the flag of Ireland as a cape People are proud of where they come from and don't get to indulge in it since they don't live there, that's fair enough. KStateKing17 posted... but let's just thank God it wasn't a Mexican flag. People being racist dicks isn't relevant. KStateKing17 posted... Oh Boy! There are many channel though dedicated to Spanish speaking, Again, indulging in their culture. KStateKing17 posted... LGBT Idk how you do LGBT TV but that's also an issue, all you can do is a show for supporters to complain amongst themselves about the outsiders, hotboxing hate. KStateKing17 posted... women that produce content towards those audiences Women have different interests, you can tailor toward it. A show about how awful men are is detrimental, but baking shows, which due have a higher female viewership, sates the market relatively harmlessly. KStateKing17 posted... just like BET and it's affiliates cater to what some would consider "urban" if it makes you feel better to use that term instead, I'm sure you would. Are you claiming most black Americans enjoy "urban" media? Or specifically enjoy watching shows exclusively made by black people? All I'm seeing is you indulging in dangerous black stereotypes and if you are the market for that, I definitely want it gone to help irradicate racist behaviour. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:888267943] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>I wasn't referring to tv exclusively if you had read my post, and a lot of what we produce and talk about is due to the segregation we already had. We had an Irish festival near my job awhile ago that didn't seem to upset our non irish guests. No one had an issue with one man wearing the flag of Ireland as a cape</quote> People are proud of where they come from and don't get to indulge in it since they don't live there, that's fair enough. <cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>but let's just thank God it wasn't a Mexican flag.</quote> People being racist dicks isn't relevant. <cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>Oh Boy! There are many channel though dedicated to Spanish speaking, </quote> Again, indulging in their culture. <cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>LGBT</quote> Idk how you do LGBT TV but that's also an issue, all you can do is a show for supporters to complain amongst themselves about the outsiders, hotboxing hate. <cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>women that produce content towards those audiences</quote> Women have different interests, you can tailor toward it. A show about how awful men are is detrimental, but baking shows, which due have a higher female viewership, sates the market relatively harmlessly. <cite>KStateKing17 posted...</cite> <quote>just like BET and it's affiliates cater to what some would consider "urban" if it makes you feel better to use that term instead, I'm sure you would.</quote> Are you claiming most black Americans enjoy "urban" media? Or specifically enjoy watching shows exclusively made by black people? All I'm seeing is you indulging in dangerous black stereotypes and if you are the market for that, I definitely want it gone to help irradicate racist behaviour.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yamato_san 10/11/17 10:52:45 PM #68:	Jen0125 posted... It seemed that way to...whom? You? Lmao right? RCtheWSBC posted... Ignorance sure is bliss, mirite? In a pregame interview before a radio broadcast of Monday nights game between the Chicago Bears and Minnesota Vikings, he said, There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/10/10/mike-ditka-on-nfl-protests-no-oppression-in-the-last-100-years-that-i-know-of/ Oh wow, fantastic debating skills, A+ for effort. Seriously though, since when have blacks been genuinely oppressed in recent decades? You can bring up police shootings all you want, but so far as I'm concerned, those are isolated incidents at most (and they happen to be the isolated incidents that the corrupt media most enjoys bringing to the spotlight constantly, despite whites being just as liable to fall victim to police brutality). The entire police force doesn't have it in for blacks, laws are in place to explicitly punish employers who stunt people based on skin color, we had a black man in office, groups such as the KKK have a very negative social stigma to them (among people of ALL political affiliations), blacks have had the same rights as everyone else in this country for the past half a century, anyone calling for reparations over stuff they were never alive for are nothing but selfish and ironically racist crybabies, get over yourselves. keyblader1985 posted... I'm sorry; I just couldn't let this line pass. Yamato_san posted... Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. What in the sweet fuck. Oh, but there's nothing wrong with this apparently. RIP_Supa posted... black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something 'Cause the president's skin color is to blame for the state of entertainment. Never mind the fact that not a single non-white was even in the running this time around. <cite>Yamato_san posted [p:888268399] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Jen0125 posted...</cite> <quote><quote>It seemed that way to...whom? You?</quote> Lmao right?</quote> <cite>RCtheWSBC posted...</cite> <quote>Ignorance sure is bliss, mirite? <quote>In a pregame interview before a radio broadcast of Monday nights game between the Chicago Bears and Minnesota Vikings, he said, There has been no oppression in the last 100 years that I know of.</quote> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/10/10/mike-ditka-on-nfl-protests-no-oppression-in-the-last-100-years-that-i-know-of/</quote> Oh wow, fantastic debating skills, A+ for effort. Seriously though, since when have blacks been genuinely oppressed in recent decades? You can bring up police shootings all you want, but so far as I'm concerned, those are isolated incidents at most (and they happen to be the isolated incidents that the corrupt media most enjoys bringing to the spotlight constantly, despite whites being just as liable to fall victim to police brutality). The entire police force doesn't have it in for blacks, laws are in place to explicitly punish employers who stunt people based on skin color, we had a black man in office, groups such as the KKK have a very negative social stigma to them (among people of ALL political affiliations), blacks have had the same rights as everyone else in this country for the past half a century, anyone calling for reparations over stuff they were never alive for are nothing but selfish and ironically racist crybabies, get over yourselves. <cite>keyblader1985 posted...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry; I just couldn't let this line pass. <cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white.</quote> What in the sweet fuck.</quote> Oh, but there's nothing wrong with this apparently. <cite>RIP_Supa posted...</cite> <quote>black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something</quote> 'Cause the president's skin color is to blame for the state of entertainment. Never mind the fact that not a single non-white was even in the running this time around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ESMWjot 10/11/17 11:09:19 PM #69:	Zeus posted... helIy posted... only zeus would take eminems song brain damage seriously like lmao dude what he also made a song about killing his ex wife, several times he never actually did that, by the way Only Helly wouldn't bother doing any fucking research to learn that it was based on an actual attack that put Eminem in the hospital. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eminem-blows-up-20091105 At the top of the shit list was his grade-school nemesis, D'Angelo Bailey. Yes, the bully who gets it with a broomstick in "Brain Damage" was entirely real. "Motherfucker used to beat the shit out of me," Eminem says. "I was in fourth grade and he was in sixth. Everything in the song is true: One day he came in the bathroom, I was pissing, and he beat the shit out of me. Pissed all over myself. But that's not how I got really fucked up." During recess one winter, Em taunted a smallish friend of Bailey's. "D'Angelo Bailey no one called him D'Angelo came running from across the yard and hit me so hard into this snowbank that I blacked out." Em was sent home, his ear started bleeding, and he was taken to the hospital. "He had a cerebral hemorrhage and was in and out of consciousness for five days," his mother reports. "The doctors had given up on him, but I wouldn't give up on my son helIy posted... i still want to know why zeus thought that a song em made in 1999 was factual My mother started screamin', "What are you on, drugs?? Look at you, you're gettin' blood all over my rug!" (Stop!) She beat me over the head with the remote control, Opened a hole and my whole brain fell out of my skull. I picked it up and screamed, "Look b**, what have you done?" 100% real I still want to know why Helly doesn't know basic shit like this. I'm not even a fan like he is and I know it. ESMWjot posted... Zeus posted... Why is Eminem at the BET Hip Hop Awards? Is he even eligible to win anything? In general, what else can you expect from a high school dropout who suffered a pretty serious concussion? And, in general, he needs to virtue-signal hard to keep his place. You really just asked why Eminem is at a hip hop awards show and expect to get taken seriously At a BLACK** Entertainment Television hip hops award. Not sure if you've noticed, but he's a little short on melanin. It's like you're mad that BET isn't racist and bans non-blacks from its events or something. <cite>ESMWjot posted [p:888269238] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>only zeus would take eminems song brain damage seriously like lmao dude what he also made a song about killing his ex wife, several times he never actually did that, by the way</quote> Only Helly wouldn't bother doing any fucking research to learn that it was based on an actual attack that put Eminem in the hospital. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eminem-blows-up-20091105 At the top of the shit list was his grade-school nemesis, D'Angelo Bailey. Yes, the bully who gets it with a broomstick in "Brain Damage" was entirely real. "Motherfucker used to beat the shit out of me," Eminem says. "I was in fourth grade and he was in sixth. Everything in the song is true: One day he came in the bathroom, I was pissing, and he beat the shit out of me. Pissed all over myself. But that's not how I got really fucked up." During recess one winter, Em taunted a smallish friend of Bailey's. "D'Angelo Bailey no one called him D'Angelo came running from across the yard and hit me so hard into this snowbank that I blacked out." Em was sent home, his ear started bleeding, and he was taken to the hospital. "He had a cerebral hemorrhage and was in and out of consciousness for five days," his mother reports. "The doctors had given up on him, but I wouldn't give up on my son <cite>helIy posted...</cite> <quote>i still want to know why zeus thought that a song em made in 1999 was factual <quote>My mother started screamin', "What are you on, drugs?? Look at you, you're gettin' blood all over my rug!" (Stop!) She beat me over the head with the remote control, Opened a hole and my whole brain fell out of my skull. I picked it up and screamed, "Look b***, what have you done?" </quote> 100% real</quote> I still want to know why Helly doesn't know basic shit like this. I'm not even a fan like he is and I know it. <cite>ESMWjot posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Why is Eminem at the BET Hip Hop Awards? Is he even eligible to win anything? In general, what else can you expect from a high school dropout who suffered a pretty serious concussion? And, in general, he needs to virtue-signal hard to keep his place.</quote> You really just asked why Eminem is at a hip hop awards show and expect to get taken seriously</quote> At a BLACK Entertainment Television hip hops award. Not sure if you've noticed, but he's a little* short on melanin. </quote> It's like you're mad that BET isn't racist and bans non-blacks from its events or something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ESMWjot 10/11/17 11:14:54 PM #70:	Yamato_san posted... RIP_Supa posted... black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected? Presidents literally owned slaves. <cite>ESMWjot posted [p:888269522] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RIP_Supa posted...</cite> <quote>black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something</quote> Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected?</quote> Presidents literally owned slaves.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yamato_san 10/11/17 11:17:12 PM #71:	GhostGiblet posted... Yamato_san posted... Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago I actually think this is something that hurts the discussion about race in America, is that it's kind of presented that way in grade school history classes. Like "There was racism until MLK Jr. asked it to go away". In the 90s, that was only 30 years or less after MLK was assassinated (that should say something about the kind of opposition he faced, too) It just doesn't make sense to me to think that that kind of hatred just disappeared in a few decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States#Civil_Rights_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965 Thought this article was interesting and taught me a bunch of stuff I didn't know, especially about Rosa Parks: https://theintercept.com/2017/10/08/the-sanitizing-of-martin-luther-king-and-rosa-parks/ So history's been simplified for a majority audience to take in. I think it's the intent that really matters: people of all races have their rights now, don't be a jackass to others based on their skin color. Growing up, I've been taught those simple but very crucial values. What could possibly be wrong with that line of thinking? Yes, racist assholes existed in King's time and were likely responsible for his assassination, racist assholes still exist today. Guess what? King's currently viewed as a martyr while racist assholes are widely looked down upon. I don't see the issue there. <cite>Yamato_san posted [p:888269656] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>GhostGiblet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago</quote> I actually think this is something that hurts the discussion about race in America, is that it's kind of presented that way in grade school history classes. Like "There was racism until MLK Jr. asked it to go away". In the 90s, that was only 30 years or less after MLK was assassinated (that should say something about the kind of opposition he faced, too) It just doesn't make sense to me to think that that kind of hatred just disappeared in a few decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States#Civil_Rights_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965 Thought this article was interesting and taught me a bunch of stuff I didn't know, especially about Rosa Parks: https://theintercept.com/2017/10/08/the-sanitizing-of-martin-luther-king-and-rosa-parks/</quote> So history's been simplified for a majority audience to take in. I think it's the intent that really matters: people of all races have their rights now, don't be a jackass to others based on their skin color. Growing up, I've been taught those simple but very crucial values. What could possibly be wrong with that line of thinking? Yes, racist assholes existed in King's time and were likely responsible for his assassination, racist assholes still exist today. Guess what? King's currently viewed as a martyr while racist assholes are widely looked down upon. I don't see the issue there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yamato_san 10/11/17 11:20:57 PM #72:	ESMWjot posted... Yamato_san posted... RIP_Supa posted... black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected? Presidents literally owned slaves. How is that relevant today? I'm not saying race relations were great in the 19th century. Is your memory so short-term that you forgot that "when every president was white" can apply to a time just a little over 8 years ago? <cite>Yamato_san posted [p:888269823] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>ESMWjot posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RIP_Supa posted...</cite> <quote>black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something</quote> Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected?</quote> Presidents literally owned slaves.</quote> How is that relevant today? I'm not saying race relations were great in the 19th century. Is your memory so short-term that you forgot that "when every president was white" can apply to a time just a little over 8 years ago?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/11/17 11:24:29 PM #73:	Yamato_san posted... How is that relevant today? I'm not saying race relations were great in the 19th century. Is your memory so short-term that you forgot that "when every president was white" can apply to a time just a little over 8 years ago? It can mean a lot of things, you probably should've just specified pre-Obama to be a little clearer. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:888270018] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>How is that relevant today? I'm not saying race relations were great in the 19th century. Is your memory so short-term that you forgot that "when every president was white" can apply to a time just a little over 8 years ago?</quote> It can mean a lot of things, you probably should've just specified pre-Obama to be a little clearer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GhostGiblet 10/11/17 11:25:16 PM #74:	Yamato_san posted... GhostGiblet posted... Yamato_san posted... Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago I actually think this is something that hurts the discussion about race in America, is that it's kind of presented that way in grade school history classes. Like "There was racism until MLK Jr. asked it to go away". In the 90s, that was only 30 years or less after MLK was assassinated (that should say something about the kind of opposition he faced, too) It just doesn't make sense to me to think that that kind of hatred just disappeared in a few decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States#Civil_Rights_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965 Thought this article was interesting and taught me a bunch of stuff I didn't know, especially about Rosa Parks: https://theintercept.com/2017/10/08/the-sanitizing-of-martin-luther-king-and-rosa-parks/ So history's been simplified for a majority audience to take in. I think it's the intent that really matters: people of all races have their rights now, don't be a jackass to others based on their skin color. Growing up, I've been taught those simple but very crucial values. What could possibly be wrong with that line of thinking? Yes, racist assholes existed in King's time and were likely responsible for his assassination, racist assholes still exist today. Guess what? King's currently viewed as a martyr while racist assholes are widely looked down upon. I don't see the issue there. Well the problem, and the idea behind that last article, is that what it was actually like for MLK (and Rosa Parks) is not taught and so a lot of people use an imaginary idea of MLK's beliefs or tactics as a way to criticize modern day movements. He was considered an 'extremist' and protests/demonstrations similar to what he carried out are being criticized like "Oh MLK would never do something like this, civil rights protests have fallen so far." I just think if we all were taught more and understood more about the civil rights movement and how it was perceived by the public we would have more context for today's world --- The wannabe artist formerly known as Snoopydance <cite>GhostGiblet posted [p:888270058] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GhostGiblet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago</quote> I actually think this is something that hurts the discussion about race in America, is that it's kind of presented that way in grade school history classes. Like "There was racism until MLK Jr. asked it to go away". In the 90s, that was only 30 years or less after MLK was assassinated (that should say something about the kind of opposition he faced, too) It just doesn't make sense to me to think that that kind of hatred just disappeared in a few decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States#Civil_Rights_Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965 Thought this article was interesting and taught me a bunch of stuff I didn't know, especially about Rosa Parks: https://theintercept.com/2017/10/08/the-sanitizing-of-martin-luther-king-and-rosa-parks/</quote> So history's been simplified for a majority audience to take in. I think it's the intent that really matters: people of all races have their rights now, don't be a jackass to others based on their skin color. Growing up, I've been taught those simple but very crucial values. What could possibly be wrong with that line of thinking? Yes, racist assholes existed in King's time and were likely responsible for his assassination, racist assholes still exist today. Guess what? King's currently viewed as a martyr while racist assholes are widely looked down upon. I don't see the issue there.</quote> Well the problem, and the idea behind that last article, is that what it was actually like for MLK (and Rosa Parks) is not taught and so a lot of people use an imaginary idea of MLK's beliefs or tactics as a way to criticize modern day movements. He was considered an 'extremist' and protests/demonstrations similar to what he carried out are being criticized like "Oh MLK would never do something like this, civil rights protests have fallen so far." I just think if we all were taught more and understood more about the civil rights movement and how it was perceived by the public we would have more context for today's world</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/11/17 11:31:57 PM #75:	keyblader1985 posted... It still amazes me that we actually elected an actual supervillain. So what super powers does Trump have? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:888270380] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>keyblader1985 posted...</cite> <quote>It still amazes me that we actually elected an actual supervillain.</quote> So what super powers does Trump have?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/11/17 11:34:17 PM #76:	Revelation34 posted... keyblader1985 posted... It still amazes me that we actually elected an actual supervillain. So what super powers does Trump have? The same as Kingpin, money and thugs. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:888270487] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>keyblader1985 posted...</cite> <quote>It still amazes me that we actually elected an actual supervillain.</quote> So what super powers does Trump have?</quote> The same as Kingpin, money and thugs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/11/17 11:37:24 PM #77:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Revelation34 posted... keyblader1985 posted... It still amazes me that we actually elected an actual supervillain. So what super powers does Trump have? The same as Kingpin, money and thugs. Actually Kingpin is pure muscle unlike Trump. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:888270635] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>keyblader1985 posted...</cite> <quote>It still amazes me that we actually elected an actual supervillain.</quote> So what super powers does Trump have?</quote> The same as Kingpin, money and thugs.</quote> Actually Kingpin is pure muscle unlike Trump.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/11/17 11:39:21 PM #78:	Revelation34 posted... Actually Kingpin is pure muscle unlike Trump. Everybody in Marvel land is a bodybuilder, that's an average body there (but greater girth). --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:888270737] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually Kingpin is pure muscle unlike Trump.</quote> Everybody in Marvel land is a bodybuilder, that's an average body there (but greater girth).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yamato_san 10/11/17 11:43:25 PM #79:	GhostGiblet posted... Well the problem, and the idea behind that last article, is that what it was actually like for MLK (and Rosa Parks) is not taught and so a lot of people use an imaginary idea of MLK's beliefs or tactics as a way to criticize modern day movements. He was considered an 'extremist' and protests/demonstrations similar to what he carried out are being criticized like "Oh MLK would never do something like this, civil rights protests have fallen so far." I just think if we all were taught more and understood more about the civil rights movement and how it was perceived by the public we would have more context for today's world Admittedly, I didn't read through all of your links to ridiculously long articles to see exactly what you were getting at. But if you're comparing MLK to BLM and Antifa and crap, I think the difference is that blacks genuinely were being mistreated in MLK's time, people were being discriminated against based on something as irrelevant as skin color. Today's activists don't have a platform to stand on. They come off as nothing but a bunch of crybabies who get set off by the slightest perceived misjustice and blame entire groups of innocent people for it. <cite>Yamato_san posted [p:888270938] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>GhostGiblet posted...</cite> <quote>Well the problem, and the idea behind that last article, is that what it was actually like for MLK (and Rosa Parks) is not taught and so a lot of people use an imaginary idea of MLK's beliefs or tactics as a way to criticize modern day movements. He was considered an 'extremist' and protests/demonstrations similar to what he carried out are being criticized like "Oh MLK would never do something like this, civil rights protests have fallen so far." I just think if we all were taught more and understood more about the civil rights movement and how it was perceived by the public we would have more context for today's world</quote> Admittedly, I didn't read through all of your links to ridiculously long articles to see exactly what you were getting at. But if you're comparing MLK to BLM and Antifa and crap, I think the difference is that blacks genuinely were being mistreated in MLK's time, people were being discriminated against based on something as irrelevant as skin color. Today's activists don't have a platform to stand on. They come off as nothing but a bunch of crybabies who get set off by the slightest perceived misjustice and blame entire groups of innocent people for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ferarri619 10/11/17 11:44:29 PM #80:	The movie "Crash" came out in 2004 and won movie of the year at the Oscars. I doubt African American protest for better human rights just magically occurred under Obama. --- ~Nintendo 64. Get N or Get out. Coming Fall 1996~ <cite>Ferarri619 posted [p:888270988] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote>The movie "Crash" came out in 2004 and won movie of the year at the Oscars. I doubt African American protest for better human rights just magically occurred under Obama.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 10/12/17 12:01:25 AM #81:	Yamato_san posted... Oh wow, fantastic debating skills, A+ for effort. Seriously though, since when have blacks been genuinely oppressed in recent decades? You can bring up police shootings all you want, but so far as I'm concerned, those are isolated incidents at most (and they happen to be the isolated incidents that the corrupt media most enjoys bringing to the spotlight constantly, despite whites being just as liable to fall victim to police brutality). The entire police force doesn't have it in for blacks, laws are in place to explicitly punish employers who stunt people based on skin color, we had a black man in office, groups such as the KKK have a very negative social stigma to them (among people of ALL political affiliations), blacks have had the same rights as everyone else in this country for the past half a century, anyone calling for reparations over stuff they were never alive for are nothing but selfish and ironically racist crybabies, get over yourselves. ITP: The CRA passed in the 60s means any racism or racist act committed since then is a non-issue, because "Hey, blacks, ya'll gots rights now. Suck it up!" In 2016 alone, there were hundreds of incidents where police shot a black person to death, in many cases the victim was unarmed. No one is saying white people aren't subject to police brutality, even shootings. That's a poor argument and a shitty attempt to divert from the fact that blacks being gunned down by cops is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to systemic racial inequality in the US. Just because the CRA was passed doesn't mean racism magically ended. You want to lay on the sarcasm with your "A+ for effort" comments, you might want to at least have a halfway decent argument yourself, not some dumbass "the Civil Rights Movement is over because we had a black president" bullshit. Try not being completely out of touch with reality. I know it can be difficult from inside your little cocoon of privilege. --- https://i.imgur.com/ZwO4qO2.gifv Bluer than velvet was the night... Softer than satin was the light... From the stars... <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:888271873] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote>Oh wow, fantastic debating skills, A+ for effort. Seriously though, since when have blacks been genuinely oppressed in recent decades? You can bring up police shootings all you want, but so far as I'm concerned, those are isolated incidents at most (and they happen to be the isolated incidents that the corrupt media most enjoys bringing to the spotlight constantly, despite whites being just as liable to fall victim to police brutality). The entire police force doesn't have it in for blacks, laws are in place to explicitly punish employers who stunt people based on skin color, we had a black man in office, groups such as the KKK have a very negative social stigma to them (among people of ALL political affiliations), blacks have had the same rights as everyone else in this country for the past half a century, anyone calling for reparations over stuff they were never alive for are nothing but selfish and ironically racist crybabies, get over yourselves.</quote> ITP: The CRA passed in the 60s means any racism or racist act committed since then is a non-issue, because "Hey, blacks, ya'll gots rights now. Suck it up!" In 2016 alone, there were hundreds of incidents where police shot a black person to death, in many cases the victim was unarmed. No one is saying white people aren't subject to police brutality, even shootings. That's a poor argument and a shitty attempt to divert from the fact that blacks being gunned down by cops is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to systemic racial inequality in the US. Just because the CRA was passed doesn't mean racism magically ended. You want to lay on the sarcasm with your "A+ for effort" comments, you might want to at least have a halfway decent argument yourself, not some dumbass "the Civil Rights Movement is over because we had a black president" bullshit. Try not being completely out of touch with reality. I know it can be difficult from inside your little cocoon of privilege.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yamato_san 10/12/17 12:20:28 AM #82:	And there you go with the privilege BS. You realize that blatant deflection like that is just grounds for you never to be taken seriously, right? But whatever, I'll play along with you. Systems are already in place. It's unfortunate when the people who are meant to uphold those systems go against them, but aside from punishing such rogue cops, what left is there to do? How many more rights can we give to blacks? Should we cater to their every whim? Should we give them free money that they don't deserve because they think every white person alive today owes it to them? Should we let them off the hook for crimes that they are irrefutably guilty of? Should we allow them to keep white slaves? I'm sorry, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere. Ultimately, I think the past few years have demonstrated that a good deal of the people shouting for "equality" aren't really asking for "equality" at all, they just want the scales tilted from one (perceived) side to the other, and that makes them the true racists of our society. <cite>Yamato_san posted [p:888272765] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote>And there you go with the privilege BS. You realize that blatant deflection like that is just grounds for you never to be taken seriously, right? But whatever, I'll play along with you. Systems are already in place. It's unfortunate when the people who are meant to uphold those systems go against them, but aside from punishing such rogue cops, what left is there to do? How many more rights can we give to blacks? Should we cater to their every whim? Should we give them free money that they don't deserve because they think every white person alive today owes it to them? Should we let them off the hook for crimes that they are irrefutably guilty of? Should we allow them to keep white slaves? I'm sorry, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere. Ultimately, I think the past few years have demonstrated that a good deal of the people shouting for "equality" aren't really asking for "equality" at all, they just want the scales tilted from one (perceived) side to the other, and that makes them the true racists of our society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/12/17 12:24:53 AM #83:	Far-Queue posted... ITP: The CRA passed in the 60s means any racism or racist act committed since then is a non-issue, because "Hey, blacks, ya'll gots rights now. Suck it up!" Kinda. When legally you are completely equal, it means you can get the government involved to force equality. Far-Queue posted... In 2016 alone, there were hundreds of incidents where police shot a black person to death, in many cases the victim was unarmed. And so were many white people, black people also statistically have committed more crimes so inherently they're going to be more subject to law enforcement (and paranoia). Far-Queue posted... No one is saying white people aren't subject to police brutality, even shootings. That's a poor argument and a shitty attempt to divert from the fact that blacks being gunned down by cops is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to systemic racial inequality in the US. It's not systematic, police officers are just allowed to do pretty much whatever they like so racism takes effect. When more police officers are white then, assuming an even spread of racists, non-whites are going to be more subject to racism, this not taking in to consideration that crimes are statistically more likely to be black and officers know this so have confirmation bias. Far-Queue posted... Just because the CRA was passed doesn't mean racism magically ended. You want to lay on the sarcasm with your "A+ for effort" comments, you might want to at least have a halfway decent argument yourself, not some dumbass "the Civil Rights Movement is over because we had a black president" bullshit. Try not being completely out of touch with reality. I know it can be difficult from inside your little cocoon of privilege. Racism will ALWAYS exist, particularly when people are raised with a persecution complex and piss off other people by telling them they're racist for not liking them while being white. Racism is normalised toward white people with how much social leanience black people have (a form of privilege) so we're headed toward breeding racists in response and this will swing back and forth forever if we don't just learn to just drop it and treat people as people and ignore race. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:888272970] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Far-Queue posted...</cite> <quote>ITP: The CRA passed in the 60s means any racism or racist act committed since then is a non-issue, because "Hey, blacks, ya'll gots rights now. Suck it up!"</quote> Kinda. When legally you are completely equal, it means you can get the government involved to force equality. <cite>Far-Queue posted...</cite> <quote>In 2016 alone, there were hundreds of incidents where police shot a black person to death, in many cases the victim was unarmed. </quote> And so were many white people, black people also statistically have committed more crimes so inherently they're going to be more subject to law enforcement (and paranoia). <cite>Far-Queue posted...</cite> <quote>No one is saying white people aren't subject to police brutality, even shootings. That's a poor argument and a shitty attempt to divert from the fact that blacks being gunned down by cops is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to systemic racial inequality in the US. </quote> It's not systematic, police officers are just allowed to do pretty much whatever they like so racism takes effect. When more police officers are white then, assuming an even spread of racists, non-whites are going to be more subject to racism, this not taking in to consideration that crimes are statistically more likely to be black and officers know this so have confirmation bias. <cite>Far-Queue posted...</cite> <quote>Just because the CRA was passed doesn't mean racism magically ended. You want to lay on the sarcasm with your "A+ for effort" comments, you might want to at least have a halfway decent argument yourself, not some dumbass "the Civil Rights Movement is over because we had a black president" bullshit. Try not being completely out of touch with reality. I know it can be difficult from inside your little cocoon of privilege.</quote> Racism will ALWAYS exist, particularly when people are raised with a persecution complex and piss off other people by telling them they're racist for not liking them while being white. Racism is normalised toward white people with how much social leanience black people have (a form of privilege) so we're headed toward breeding racists in response and this will swing back and forth forever if we don't just learn to just drop it and treat people as people and ignore race.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RIP_Supa 10/12/17 1:21:06 AM #84:	Yamato_san posted... RIP_Supa posted... black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected? That took a turn real quick. Can someone help me out here? Does this guy think I liked Obama or something? --- getting laid is easy lmao just post dank memes -PaddysPub <cite>RIP_Supa posted [p:888275191] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RIP_Supa posted...</cite> <quote>black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something</quote> Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected?</quote> That took a turn real quick. Can someone help me out here? Does this guy think I liked Obama or something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unfernal_Server 10/12/17 1:25:19 AM #85:	Melon_Master posted... Unfernal_Server posted... Zeus posted... Well, how much of a history does he have when it comes to politics? The fact that it's opportunistic is undeniable, and it's fairly safe to assume that he wants to put distance between himself and white movements which minority groups view as being hostile. However, more generally, he's playing to his audience rather than against it, which automatically makes any alleged sincerity seem a bit weaker. He's an american, politics affect everyone. You're not giving any reasons for why it's opportunistic. You're not giving anything that backs up your claims, you're literally just stating your opinion and saying it's undeniable and safe to assume. This is why virtue-signal claims are stupid, it's always just "well he's stating something that a lot of people agree with, therefore he's just doing it to get their support". Hmm, maybe he's saying something because it's what he thinks, plain and simple, it isn't always deeper than that. Zeus is just going to try and change the subject on you now. Yeah... That would be pretty much par for the course.. --- =^..^= <cite>Unfernal_Server posted [p:888275358] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Melon_Master posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Unfernal_Server posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Well, how much of a history does he have when it comes to politics? The fact that it's opportunistic is undeniable, and it's fairly safe to assume that he wants to put distance between himself and white movements which minority groups view as being hostile. However, more generally, he's playing to his audience rather than against it, which automatically makes any alleged sincerity seem a bit weaker.</quote> He's an american, politics affect everyone. You're not giving any reasons for why it's opportunistic. You're not giving anything that backs up your claims, you're literally just stating your opinion and saying it's undeniable and safe to assume. This is why virtue-signal claims are stupid, it's always just "well he's stating something that a lot of people agree with, therefore he's just doing it to get their support". Hmm, maybe he's saying something because it's what he thinks, plain and simple, it isn't always deeper than that.</quote> Zeus is just going to try and change the subject on you now. </quote> Yeah... That would be pretty much par for the course..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/12/17 1:29:45 AM #86:	BET IS OWNED BY VIACOM. Viacom is the 6th largest media network. Eminem's rap, while sprinkled with a layer of truth, is still a media talking point geared to distract us from the truth. The same thing with Harvey Weinstein. --- I'm either failing at a silly joke or trying to help. http://i.imgur.com/m8f7VYf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0Lp7Agd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/47emEDA.jpg <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:888275505] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote>BET IS OWNED BY VIACOM. Viacom is the 6th largest media network. Eminem's rap, while sprinkled with a layer of truth, is still a media talking point geared to distract us from the truth. The same thing with Harvey Weinstein.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ferarri619 10/12/17 1:36:04 AM #87:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3olE6bHjBw --- ~Nintendo 64. Get N or Get out. Coming Fall 1996~ <cite>Ferarri619 posted [p:888275728] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3olE6bHjBw</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yamato_san 10/12/17 1:38:43 AM #88:	RIP_Supa posted... Yamato_san posted... RIP_Supa posted... black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected? That took a turn real quick. Can someone help me out here? Does this guy think I liked Obama or something? Sorry about that. Looking at your post again, I seem to have missed the sarcasm, my bad. I should've paid attention to your username and notice you posting earlier as one of the only pro-Trump voices in this entire thread. <cite>Yamato_san posted [p:888275841] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>RIP_Supa posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Yamato_san posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RIP_Supa posted...</cite> <quote>black people entertain white audiences all the time... just not on places called honky tonk television, cause the president is white again or something</quote> Funny, I seem to recall racial relations being just fine back when every president in history was white. Not that I'd blame Obama for this entirely, especially not for the color of his skin (though his sympathy towards BLM doesn't paint a good picture), but it seems ironic that only after he was elected did racial relations grow to the worst they've been in the three decades I've been alive. Growing up in the '90s, it seemed like the Civil Rights Movement was already something that was said and done a long time ago, but only now do we have people whining that black people are so oppressed despite one managing to climb up to what may be the single most powerful position on the planet and holding it for two terms. BTW, wouldn't your comment have made just as much sense if Hillary were elected?</quote> That took a turn real quick. Can someone help me out here? Does this guy think I liked Obama or something?</quote> Sorry about that. Looking at your post again, I seem to have missed the sarcasm, my bad. I should've paid attention to your username and notice you posting earlier as one of the only pro-Trump voices in this entire thread.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/12/17 2:14:56 AM #89:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Everybody in Marvel land is a bodybuilder, that's an average body there (but greater girth). It was a plot point with Kingpin. A guy tried to punch him because he thought he was all fat. Then got his ass kicked. SunWuKung420 posted... BET IS OWNED BY VIACOM. Viacom is the 6th largest media network. Eminem's rap, while sprinkled with a layer of truth, is still a media talking point geared to distract us from the truth. The same thing with Harvey Weinstein. Which conspiracy theory are they trying to distract us from this time? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:888277059] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kyuubi4269 posted...</cite> <quote>Everybody in Marvel land is a bodybuilder, that's an average body there (but greater girth).</quote> It was a plot point with Kingpin. A guy tried to punch him because he thought he was all fat. Then got his ass kicked. <cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>BET IS OWNED BY VIACOM. Viacom is the 6th largest media network. Eminem's rap, while sprinkled with a layer of truth, is still a media talking point geared to distract us from the truth. The same thing with Harvey Weinstein.</quote> Which conspiracy theory are they trying to distract us from this time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/12/17 2:17:09 AM #90:	Revelation34 posted... Which conspiracy theory are they trying to distract us from this time? Pick a number, read a fortune cookie, buy a lottery ticket. --- I'm either failing at a silly joke or trying to help. http://i.imgur.com/m8f7VYf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0Lp7Agd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/47emEDA.jpg <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:888277142] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote> Which conspiracy theory are they trying to distract us from this time?</quote> Pick a number, read a fortune cookie, buy a lottery ticket.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/12/17 2:18:54 AM #91:	SunWuKung420 posted... Revelation34 posted... Which conspiracy theory are they trying to distract us from this time? Pick a number, read a fortune cookie, buy a lottery ticket. So nothing at all then. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:888277204] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote> Which conspiracy theory are they trying to distract us from this time?</quote> Pick a number, read a fortune cookie, buy a lottery ticket.</quote> So nothing at all then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/12/17 2:22:17 AM #92:	Revelation34 posted... So nothing at all then. The idea that we are free. That's why football players are kneeling. --- I'm either failing at a silly joke or trying to help. http://i.imgur.com/m8f7VYf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0Lp7Agd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/47emEDA.jpg <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:888277321] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote> So nothing at all then.</quote> The idea that we are free. That's why football players are kneeling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/12/17 2:23:21 AM #93:	SunWuKung420 posted... The idea that we are free. That's why football players are kneeling. Nobody cares if anybody kneels or doesn't except rednecks. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:888277351] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>The idea that we are free. That's why football players are kneeling.</quote> Nobody cares if anybody kneels or doesn't except rednecks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 10/12/17 2:25:06 AM #94:	Revelation34 posted... It was a plot point with Kingpin. A guy tried to punch him because he thought he was all fat. Then got his ass kicked. It's not telling of Kingpin, just says major characters don't get floored by mooks. --- RIP_Supa posted... I've seen some stuff <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:888277393] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>It was a plot point with Kingpin. A guy tried to punch him because he thought he was all fat. Then got his ass kicked. </quote> It's not telling of Kingpin, just says major characters don't get floored by mooks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SunWuKung420 10/12/17 2:29:42 AM #95:	Revelation34 posted... SunWuKung420 posted... The idea that we are free. That's why football players are kneeling. Nobody cares if anybody kneels or doesn't except rednecks. The news clearly cares, and @Zeus. It's all f a k e. H i d i n g f r o m t h e NSA. FUCK TRUMP! WORST PUPPET LEADER EVER! #goatingtheillumanati #bearealobject --- I'm either failing at a silly joke or trying to help. http://i.imgur.com/m8f7VYf.jpg http://i.imgur.com/0Lp7Agd.jpg http://i.imgur.com/47emEDA.jpg <cite>SunWuKung420 posted [p:888277544] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SunWuKung420 posted...</cite> <quote>The idea that we are free. That's why football players are kneeling.</quote> Nobody cares if anybody kneels or doesn't except rednecks.</quote> The news clearly cares, and @Zeus. It's all f a k e. H i d i n g f r o m t h e NSA. FUCK TRUMP! WORST PUPPET LEADER EVER! #goatingtheillumanati #bearealobject</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Truth_Decay 10/12/17 8:32:24 AM #96:	Wow. People actually believe that having had a black president means we should just stop trying to improve as a nation in regards to equality and civil rights? Dont think its possible to completely stamp out racism/sexism/etc, but that doesnt mean we should stop trying. Doesnt mean we should turn a blind eye when a cop guns down an unarmed black man, gets suspended with pay, tried, and ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing and set free... Why is it shoot first with these cops? Why arent they trained in better? Are they not equipped well enough with non-lethal means to subdue suspects? I understand a cops job is dangerous, but we have to hold them to a higher standard. They are not above the law. And yes, people of all ethnic backgrounds are subject to abuse at the hands of unqualified police, but to deny racism is not part of the overall equation is painfully ignorant. Yes, overall police abuse needs to be addressed, but if we can address a substantial portion of those cases by focusing on the systemic racism in this country, then we can make progress. --- Seek the truth / Free your mind Reach a deeper root / Eat the fruit / Leave the rind <cite>Truth_Decay posted [p:888285766] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote>Wow. People actually believe that having had a black president means we should just stop trying to improve as a nation in regards to equality and civil rights? Dont think its possible to completely stamp out racism/sexism/etc, but that doesnt mean we should stop trying. Doesnt mean we should turn a blind eye when a cop guns down an unarmed black man, gets suspended with pay, tried, and ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing and set free... Why is it shoot first with these cops? Why arent they trained in better? Are they not equipped well enough with non-lethal means to subdue suspects? I understand a cops job is dangerous, but we have to hold them to a higher standard. They are not above the law. And yes, people of all ethnic backgrounds are subject to abuse at the hands of unqualified police, but to deny racism is not part of the overall equation is painfully ignorant. Yes, overall police abuse needs to be addressed, but if we can address a substantial portion of those cases by focusing on the systemic racism in this country, then we can make progress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 10/12/17 8:41:08 AM #97:	Truth_Decay posted... Wow. People actually believe that having had a black president means we should just stop trying to improve as a nation in regards to equality and civil rights? Dont think its possible to completely stamp out racism/sexism/etc, but that doesnt mean we should stop trying. Doesnt mean we should turn a blind eye when a cop guns down an unarmed black man, gets suspended with pay, tried, and ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing and set free... Why is it shoot first with these cops? Why arent they trained in better? Are they not equipped well enough with non-lethal means to subdue suspects? I understand a cops job is dangerous, but we have to hold them to a higher standard. They are not above the law. And yes, people of all ethnic backgrounds are subject to abuse at the hands of unqualified police, but to deny racism is not part of the overall equation is painfully ignorant. Yes, overall police abuse needs to be addressed, but if we can address a substantial portion of those cases by focusing on the systemic racism in this country, then we can make progress. ^ @Kyuubi4269 @Yamato_san Like Truth Decay said, so just because racism will likely always exist, we should just ignore it? Gonna have to disagree with you two on that. Are things like Affirmative Action perfect? Not at all, but theyre better than doing nothing. Im not smart enough to come up with a better solution to problems of discrimination in this country, but ignoring them or taking no action because you feel any effort is futile is ludicrous. Easy to say we should do nothing when doing nothing doesnt effect you. Not so easy to say Oh, lets just let it resolve itself when your loved ones are being shot down in the street and not being granted the basic right of due process. Cops are not meant to be judge, jury, and executioner. This isnt the world of Judge Dredd we live in, and it never should be even remotely like that. --- https://i.imgur.com/ZwO4qO2.gifv Bluer than velvet was the night... Softer than satin was the light... From the stars... <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:888286092] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Truth_Decay posted...</cite> <quote>Wow. People actually believe that having had a black president means we should just stop trying to improve as a nation in regards to equality and civil rights? Dont think its possible to completely stamp out racism/sexism/etc, but that doesnt mean we should stop trying. Doesnt mean we should turn a blind eye when a cop guns down an unarmed black man, gets suspended with pay, tried, and ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing and set free... Why is it shoot first with these cops? Why arent they trained in better? Are they not equipped well enough with non-lethal means to subdue suspects? I understand a cops job is dangerous, but we have to hold them to a higher standard. They are not above the law. And yes, people of all ethnic backgrounds are subject to abuse at the hands of unqualified police, but to deny racism is not part of the overall equation is painfully ignorant. Yes, overall police abuse needs to be addressed, but if we can address a substantial portion of those cases by focusing on the systemic racism in this country, then we can make progress.</quote> ^ @Kyuubi4269 @Yamato_san Like Truth Decay said, so just because racism will likely always exist, we should just ignore it? Gonna have to disagree with you two on that. Are things like Affirmative Action perfect? Not at all, but theyre better than doing nothing. Im not smart enough to come up with a better solution to problems of discrimination in this country, but ignoring them or taking no action because you feel any effort is futile is ludicrous. Easy to say we should do nothing when doing nothing doesnt effect you. Not so easy to say Oh, lets just let it resolve itself when your loved ones are being shot down in the street and not being granted the basic right of due process. Cops are not meant to be judge, jury, and executioner. This isnt the world of Judge Dredd we live in, and it never should be even remotely like that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 10/12/17 9:14:31 AM #98:	Truth_Decay posted... gets suspended with pay, that's due to the union, btw. you don't fuck with union rules. --- depressed again morning comes too fast and i'm tired of the routine <cite>helIy posted [p:888287312] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Truth_Decay posted...</cite> <quote>gets suspended with pay, </quote> that's due to the union, btw. you don't fuck with union rules.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yamato_san 10/12/17 11:04:35 AM #99:	But Affirmative Action is just a different form of prejudice. As I said, it's just tipping the scales to an opposite end rather than going for a balance. And yes, police need to be better disciplined, but why does it need to be strictly a racial issue? Yes, some individual cops are racist, and they should be condemned for that, but it's not like anybody could know that when hiring them, just like nobody could tell that they're liable to fly off the handle and break the rules in general. Better discipline and stricter punishment for law enforcement does seem to be needed, but to suggest the the entire police force in this country just has it out solely for black people based on a few bad apples (or worse, to suggest that this is the case literally every time a shooting occurs, even the occasions when it is arguably justified against an armed maniac who happens to be black and couldn't be neutralized via non-violent means) is just asinine. The solution is really simple, I can't believe it even needs to be discussed: just stop focusing on race. Stop making every little thing be about skin color. Ultimately, the only people who continue to make race an issue are the people who whine about it. People are people, that's all that needs to be taught. Not this inane notion that the world is out to get you based on your melanin count. We are all people and we all have our rights, that's it. <cite>Yamato_san posted [p:888292328] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote>But Affirmative Action is just a different form of prejudice. As I said, it's just tipping the scales to an opposite end rather than going for a balance. And yes, police need to be better disciplined, but why does it need to be strictly a racial issue? Yes, some individual cops are racist, and they should be condemned for that, but it's not like anybody could know that when hiring them, just like nobody could tell that they're liable to fly off the handle and break the rules in general. Better discipline and stricter punishment for law enforcement does seem to be needed, but to suggest the the entire police force in this country just has it out solely for black people based on a few bad apples (or worse, to suggest that this is the case literally every time a shooting occurs, even the occasions when it is arguably justified against an armed maniac who happens to be black and couldn't be neutralized via non-violent means) is just asinine. The solution is really simple, I can't believe it even needs to be discussed: just stop focusing on race. Stop making every little thing be about skin color. Ultimately, the only people who continue to make race an issue are the people who whine about it. People are people, that's all that needs to be taught. Not this inane notion that the world is out to get you based on your melanin count. We are all people and we all have our rights, that's it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smarkil 10/12/17 11:58:13 AM #100:	Truth_Decay posted... Dont think its possible to completely stamp out racism/sexism/etc, but that doesnt mean we should stop trying. Doesnt mean we should turn a blind eye when a cop guns down an unarmed black man, gets suspended with pay, tried, and ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing and set free... They suspend them with pay because they're investigating the issue. At that point, they don't know whether or not the person has done anything wrong so they can't exactly punish him for something he hasn't been proven to have done. Think it through dude. --- "We're not even close" - Romans building Rome at the end of Day 1 <cite>Smarkil posted [p:888295105] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Truth_Decay posted...</cite> <quote>Dont think its possible to completely stamp out racism/sexism/etc, but that doesnt mean we should stop trying. Doesnt mean we should turn a blind eye when a cop guns down an unarmed black man, gets suspended with pay, tried, and ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing and set free... </quote> They suspend them with pay because they're investigating the issue. At that point, they don't know whether or not the person has done anything wrong so they can't exactly punish him for something he hasn't been proven to have done. Think it through dude.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/12/17 12:02:30 PM #101:	Smarkil posted... unarmed black man, gets suspended with pay, tried, and ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing and set free... I love how you ignored the point of that post. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355 <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:888295339] in Eminem bla... [t:75866446]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smarkil posted...</cite> <quote>unarmed black man, gets suspended with pay, tried, and ultimately cleared of any wrongdoing and set free... </quote> I love how you ignored the point of that post.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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