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thecolorgreen
10/17/17 6:36:43 PM
#51:


RCtheWSBC posted...
Wow. I am so sorry for your loss.

Please attend therapy. You have experienced a serious trauma that will be difficult to heal from, but it can be possible. Be patient with yourself. Seek support from the people around you who love you--remember that they only wish to help you in the best ways, so let them know what those ways may be. Everyone grieves differently and perhaps your therapist can help you explore healthy ways of doing so.

Best wishes as you recover.


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Jen0125
10/17/17 6:37:05 PM
#52:


ryan, fuck off.
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RCtheWSBC
10/17/17 6:37:50 PM
#53:


Zeus posted...
To be fair, I was a little confused, too.

Then you also need to learn how to read.
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wwinterj25
10/17/17 6:41:12 PM
#54:


RCtheWSBC posted...
It happened a few weeks ago. Learn how to read.


Yeah I can't read at all. Still this confused me:

IceDragon77 posted...
Also, how long has it been since this all happened?


MannerSaurus posted...
Hey guys. It's alright about the number thing... it has to be somewhere close to 10 years just based on my calculations, but it has definitely been a while.


Still it matters not as my point still stands.
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RCtheWSBC
10/17/17 6:42:47 PM
#55:


What point do you have? People use social media as an outlet all the time. He used to be member of this community and wanted to reconnect in a time of loss and grief.
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thecolorgreen
10/17/17 6:43:51 PM
#56:


Jen0125 posted...
ryan, fuck off.

She sounds like someones grandma
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Jen0125
10/17/17 6:45:00 PM
#57:


thecolorgreen posted...
Jen0125 posted...
ryan, fuck off.

She sounds like someones grandma


and you sound like an imbecile.
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wwinterj25
10/17/17 6:59:58 PM
#58:


RCtheWSBC posted...
What point do you have? People use social media as an outlet all the time. He used to be member of this community and wanted to reconnect in a time of loss and grief.

P sure I've already acknowledged the fact the internet is a outlet for some folk with my previous post.
Internet websites for depression and whatnot come to mind. That way like-minded folk can give the TC the advice and help he clearly needs.

Still my point is this is PotD. Not real life, not close family and friends, not a trained profession, not a dedicated website for grief. It doesn't matter if the poster used to be a member here 10 years ago as that's a long time ago and things change. To create a account and post this story here several weeks after the event isn't really the best course of action. Getting help, giving yourself time to heal and spending time with people in real life would be.
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Kungfu Kenobi
10/17/17 7:09:46 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Still my point is this is PotD. Not real life, not close family and friends, not a trained profession, not a dedicated website for grief. It doesn't matter if the poster used to be a member here 10 years ago as that's a long time ago and things change. To create a account and post this story here several weeks after the event isn't really the best course of action. Getting help, giving yourself time to heal and spending time with people in real life would be.


I've gotten every indication from this thread that he's doing just that. He said he's going to therapy and has been in touch with friends and family.

We can be a hard bunch sometimes, but we're not heartless. If reaching out to PotD provides some amount of comfort however small, then I for one am glad to welcome him back.
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Broken_Zeus
10/17/17 7:13:54 PM
#60:


RCtheWSBC posted...
Zeus posted...
To be fair, I was a little confused, too.

Then you also need to learn how to read.


Mean!
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wwinterj25
10/17/17 7:23:02 PM
#61:


Kungfu Kenobi posted...
We can be a hard bunch sometimes, but we're not heartless. If reaching out to PotD provides some amount of comfort however small, then I for one am glad to welcome him back.


Yeah whatever works I guess.
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RIP_Supa
10/17/17 7:49:57 PM
#62:


thecolorgreen posted...
Jen0125 posted...
ryan, fuck off.

She sounds like someones grandma

She's just concerned/wants him to take any help that is available to him, man. I will not deny the way it was stated does sound kind of pushy. However, the fact she actually made the post/wanted to try to encourage him to follow up on therapy shows she had good intentions, over however it may have sounded once read... (Disclaimer: im not hating on your post, i'm saying atleast you did try to encourage him)

Cause if I was TC I probably wouldn't be excited for the therapy at all. :l I'm so sorry man, every time I see this topic I only get an idea of the pain you're going/went through.

Are you gonna attend that therapy? ...And have you been drinking? (Just curious. i have...)
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MannerSaurus
10/17/17 9:11:57 PM
#63:


Sorry for the confusion guys... I meant that I was a user here about 8-10 years ago. The accident was the evening of October 3rd this year, I woke up on the 4th or 5th in the hospital.

POTD isn't the first place I went with this horrible grief. Family, friends, religious council, grieving professional council, so on and so forth were.

I just considered this to be the next thing in line, I just wanted to reconnect because I do have friends here, like RC and Shadow. And you all have been very kind, it means a lot. I don't just shrug each persons "sorry" off, I take each and every single person in my life from the Hospital to POTD to church, and your condolences go to my heart. I'm having a hard time CONNECTING with feelings, but your words are not lost. So thank all of you.

To answer your question, no I have not been drinking for reasons I stated in a post above (Concussion, depression, etc.) despite that being my usual go to for pain. I attended the therapy yesterday... and it... I still see it as pointless, because I feel like there's no light at the end of this tunnel (I'm having a lot of problem with existentialism if that's the right word. We all die in this ****ty universe, and no matter how much help I get my wife will still be dead and then I'll die, too, so..... nothing matters) but I have been attending and talking to the therapist, and I have been seeing friends and family of all kind to assist in the grieving. Some help more than others, but I really am just really lost right now.
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helIy
10/17/17 10:59:55 PM
#64:


wwinterj25 posted...
RCtheWSBC posted...
It happened a few weeks ago. Learn how to read.


Yeah I can't read at all. Still this confused me:

IceDragon77 posted...
Also, how long has it been since this all happened?


MannerSaurus posted...
Hey guys. It's alright about the number thing... it has to be somewhere close to 10 years just based on my calculations, but it has definitely been a while.


Still it matters not as my point still stands.

he said that in response to me

so no, your point doesn't stand
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Yellow
10/17/17 11:44:01 PM
#65:


This is my go to song for grief.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uYWYWPc9HU


It makes me feel a little better because it's about how karma doesn't make any sense.
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RIP_Supa
10/18/17 12:55:59 AM
#66:


I think I remember you by the way ManSaurus. (OutlawStar rings bells too)

I don't know if the things I would want to say to someone in your position would be of benifit, if they're really necessary, or even insensitive...

They are things I believe... basically, just that life never ends and death is only a stepping stone, but I'm not gonna go in depth with that cause I'm not sure it's even warranted...

I'm sure you're just feeling bad, rather than being uneasy about the afterlife and stuff... I'm just trying to help, I guess. Trying I feel, cause I don't actually know anything better I could say, I just know the most I can do is offer conversation to you. Or just listen to anything you might have to say.

I tend to get hung up feeling like I wish I could help people more than is currently possible, so I mean... Yeah
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MannerSaurus
10/18/17 10:57:26 AM
#67:


RIP_Supa posted...
I think I remember you by the way ManSaurus. (OutlawStar rings bells too)

I don't know if the things I would want to say to someone in your position would be of benifit, if they're really necessary, or even insensitive...

They are things I believe... basically, just that life never ends and death is only a stepping stone, but I'm not gonna go in depth with that cause I'm not sure it's even warranted...

I'm sure you're just feeling bad, rather than being uneasy about the afterlife and stuff... I'm just trying to help, I guess. Trying I feel, cause I don't actually know anything better I could say, I just know the most I can do is offer conversation to you. Or just listen to anything you might have to say.

I tend to get hung up feeling like I wish I could help people more than is currently possible, so I mean... Yeah


Your name is familiar, too. I have strong Christian faith about the afterlife, but I also feel destroyed in side to the point of panic (what if I'm WRONG and DON'T get to see her again) and that lack of 100% faith is making it quite difficult.

I ... had a dream about her last night... I was holding her and telling her "I had this crazy dream that you were dead!" and she replied to me "That is pretty crazy, wow..." and we were loving on each other (just relief that she was alive holding her type love) and then I became lucid and I was like wait a minute..... this isn't real is it.... this is a dream isn't it... no damnit damnit damnit **** **** **** ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I woke up screaming and crying and I've been crying all morning.

This is getting really ****ing old. I'm getting tired of suffering like this. This is becoming pointless.
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MannerSaurus
10/19/17 6:32:27 AM
#68:


Another dream. Every night, it's a dream like this. She was on the phone telling me the injuries were not that severe and I got hope that she was still alive.

I can't take this.
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KogaSteelfang
10/19/17 7:00:37 AM
#69:


This is heartwrenching. I'm praying for you, dude.
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Alexandra_Trent
10/19/17 7:13:52 AM
#70:


I'm very sorry to hear that. Please be strong. You will get through this.
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MannerSaurus
10/19/17 9:36:51 AM
#71:


I'm trying to believe you guys, you have been very kind. I've been trying to believe my friends and family in real life. I just ... I just can't see it anymore. I try to be objective and remove myself, and I just don't see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore...
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Firewood18
10/19/17 9:51:46 AM
#72:


The therapist might know of a med that can suppress dreams. Maybe that would help with that aspect of your grief.

There really is no light at the end of the tunnel for a loss like yours. There is just life seen as Before and After.

Day by day, man. Keep on keepin on.
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-Komaiko54-
10/19/17 9:55:30 AM
#73:


Like others said before, if you feel like it isn't helping then try switching therapists,
don't give up, man
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ZiggiStardust
10/19/17 9:56:21 AM
#74:


MannerSaurus posted...
I'm trying to believe you guys, you have been very kind. I've been trying to believe my friends and family in real life. I just ... I just can't see it anymore. I try to be objective and remove myself, and I just don't see the light at the end of the tunnel anymore...

nothing that traumatic has ever happened to me, so i can't tell you twhen/how these things happen, or that you'll reach a point where things feel 'normal' again. i seriously doubt things will ever be normal for you again.

but i can say, the few people i've known who have had tragedies like this happen to them got better. they eventually pulled themselves out of their shock and depression (through various means), and found happiness again.

it didn't happen overnight for them, and i'm not surprised you don't see that light now. but it's there, man. you will be able to walk into it again one day. i promise you.
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Jen0125
10/19/17 10:07:13 AM
#75:


In all honesty it'll probably take a year or more before you start to feel normal.
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SilverClock
10/19/17 10:12:53 AM
#76:


SHIT got fucking damn. Sounds like you went through (and are still going through) a living nightmare. I know it doesn't mean much coming from one stranger on the internet but sorry for your loss which I know doesn't even begin to cover the gravity of what you are experiencing! Do whatever you need to do to feel better man. As long as it's not life-threatening. This is one of the few circumstances where I can say that I don't blame you for feeling suicidal. I know I sure as hell would be. I'd try to find another purpose to keep you going, just take it slow. I'm sure you have quite a bit of grieving left to do. Best wishes man.
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MannerSaurus
10/19/17 10:23:20 AM
#77:


Not that anyone here called me a liar... but here...

https://www.facebook.com/lampasasdispatchrecord/posts/10159381070750481
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ZiggiStardust
10/19/17 10:39:09 AM
#78:


MannerSaurus posted...
Not that anyone here called me a liar... but here...

https://www.facebook.com/lampasasdispatchrecord/posts/10159381070750481

i don't think anyone is questioning you, man. you don't have that kind of reputation, and you seem genuinely distraught.

if anything, we just want to see you get through this one day, and be happy again. i know you're a good dude.
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codman4
10/19/17 10:40:19 AM
#79:


I'm so sorry for everything that has happened. I pray that you and your loved ones can find a way past this. I don't know if my words will change your perspective at all, but I'll tell you a tragedy I recently experienced.

A family friend was murdered on Christmas morning last year. He left behind 6 children and a wife. Seeing the agony and grief from his family was unbearable, but after some time, I saw that they were beginning to heal. Well, everyone except his wife.

She has been suffering from severe depression, and this past week was hospitalized because she nearly died. She has stopped eating almost entirely, and has given up the will to live. I can't say how I'd react in her situation, but seeing how his family is preparing to go through all of the pain again hurts.

Even though you lost the most important person in the world to you, please understand that you still live for other people out there. You have a family, and for their sake, please live your life to the fullest until you can find happiness again.
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codman4
10/19/17 10:44:36 AM
#80:


Oh, and about your dream, well.......it gets better. I have dreams about my father all the time, probably a couple times a month. I even had a dream last night that we were playing video games together believe it or not lol......Well, he passed away 9 years ago, so as you can see, you never stop thinking (or dreaming) about loved ones.

However, the way you look at the dream changes over time. At first, it made me so sad and depressed, and I'd wake up with tears in my eyes. It hurt to wake up and realize none of it was real. But now.......now I love seeing him again in my dreams. It's like I still get to be with him even though I know he's no longer with us.

I think it would be sad if I didn't think about him every day and have frequent dreams. I don't want to ever forget him :-)
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Far-Queue
10/19/17 10:50:13 AM
#81:


Jen0125 posted...
In all honesty it'll probably take a year or more before you start to feel normal.

Took me like 10 years after my mom passed, but I had other issues from my childhood to work through on top of losing my mom.

It wasnt 10 years of abject misery, Manners, and each year got better than the last, but you shouldnt put a time table on when youll feel better. You may end up beating yourself up and asking yourself Why am I not happy yet? When will it end? and compounding the grief with anxiety and stuff. Everyone processes grief differently. Could take months, could take years. But it does get better, I assure you.
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MannerSaurus
10/19/17 12:11:14 PM
#82:


Objectively I do understand it takes time... I just don't like the feeling that it will NEVER feel better. It's an extremely desperate feeling. The existentialism (I don't know if I'm using this right) is extreme, in that I should have died in that wreck with her, in that I have no reason to wake up anymore, in that there's no point to life we all just live 100 or so years and die. There's nothing to this world.
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MannerSaurus
10/20/17 6:21:15 PM
#83:


I don't wish what I'm feeling on anybody. Not even my enemies. To truly think about your life and still wish that you had died in that wreck is the most horrible lonely feeling. I'm not suicidal or anything of that nature, I wouldn't hurt myself. I've just given up. I can't understand what I'm waking up for. I don't know if it's possible to die from a broken heart, but I feel like I'm at the end of my life. (Again NOT from suicide or anything like that.) I feel like the days are getting darker, not brighter... and that would make me sad, except my body has seemingly maxed out on sadness with the loss of my wife. Like throwing a cup of water on the ocean. I feel more like I've accepted my OWN death, as if I had a terminal illness, and I was just waiting patiently at this point. Like the quote inside the movie Blow "I thought you couldn't live without your heart?" I don't think I can. I don't even think I want to. Being happy is not a goal of mine. Partly because I no longer have goals. If anything happens to me, just know that I love all of you guys, even the ones I used to butt heads with, and everything you guys have said means the world to me. I read every single post multiple times.
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helIy
10/20/17 6:23:32 PM
#84:


MannerSaurus posted...
Not that anyone here called me a liar... but here...

https://www.facebook.com/lampasasdispatchrecord/posts/10159381070750481

who is questioning you
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MannerSaurus
10/20/17 6:28:34 PM
#85:


helIy posted...
MannerSaurus posted...
Not that anyone here called me a liar... but here...

https://www.facebook.com/lampasasdispatchrecord/posts/10159381070750481

who is questioning you


No one, friend... I just know if I were to see a topic like this, it would bother me to not have something to read officially.

http://m.lampasasdispatchrecord.com/news/2017-10-06/Front_Page/Woman_killed_in_US_190_wreck.html#.Wep4WYi1vs0

That's a better link, if anyone wants. I can't re-read it, I will puke.
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helIy
10/20/17 6:30:10 PM
#86:


i keep reading that as lampass.
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Doctor Foxx
10/20/17 6:31:02 PM
#87:


Manner, this is horrible. I'm so sorry.

Everything is so fresh. Those wounds haven't even begun to clot or scab over. One day you'll notice you're not bleeding everywhere all the time, even if you trickle blood now and again. Then you'll feel less pain in the area. When you heal you'll have a big scar. You will heal, bit by bit, over time.

It will never be the same, but you will find a new normal and find peace in it. Not now. Not soon. But you will. And you can take comfort in that scar. You will always be able to feel and to remember what a beautiful thing you had. Your future holds even more things of beauty.

Please do seek a therapist. They're so helpful and they can guide you on a path to heal.
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Kyuubi4269
10/20/17 6:35:16 PM
#88:


Sounds like that guy's tyres were shit too.
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MannerSaurus
10/20/17 6:40:13 PM
#89:


Kyuubi4269 posted...
Sounds like that guy's tyres were shit too.


It wouldn't surprise me. I only know about the wreck from what I've been told and read. The concussion completely blacked me out. I remember leaving a restaurant with my wife and niece, and then waking up in a hospital to be told my wife was dead. It is the absolute worst nightmare I cannot wake up from.
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MannerSaurus
10/21/17 1:51:04 PM
#90:


Update: Our cellphone payment was due today. I had to call and tell them I need her phone off my plan and why... and it was so much harder to say than I ever imagined. I feel like I'm being mean to her, and not letting her have service or something. I feel like I'm suffocating... my next therapist appointment is the 30th of this month...
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Far-Queue
10/21/17 6:53:45 PM
#91:


Hey MannerS, therapy is good and all, but do you have any sort of outlet? Something you can vent or decompress with? When my mom died, I turned to music and poetry. Writing helped me a lot. But it can be anything - video games, going to the movie theater, reading, hiking, cycling, the gym... maybe hanging out with friends and family. Just try and take your mind off things, or focus your grief through some channel where you can work things out.
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Chielz0r
10/21/17 8:02:54 PM
#92:


Hey MannerSaurus, my sincere condolences.
I've lost loved ones myself in a very sudden manner, which was very traumatic for me.
(My mom 4 years ago and my dad commited suicide last year, I was the first to find them in both instances)
Right after my mom died I got so anxious I didn't want to leave my bed because because reality was too confrontational. It felt like god had taken a sledgehammer and crushed part of my soul.
In the case of my dad, I'm still struggling with a lot of emotions, unanswered questions and what ifs.

Well.. all the advice I can give you really is.
Time will make it more bearable, but the pain will probably never completely go away.
Stay in touch with your friends and family.
It's easy to get isolated when you become depressed.
Try not to do drown your sorrow in substances, that way you can never really heal and you may become dependant in order to cope.

Everyone is different and deals with these kind of situations in their own way and time.
I know things look hopeless right now, but please hang on.
Take your time, it will get more bearable eventually.
Considering the severity of the traumatic experience it may take a while before you feel like yourself again. (Probably at least a year, likely several)

Best wishes going forward.
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wwinterj25
10/21/17 8:08:21 PM
#93:


helIy posted...
he said that in response to me


I'm aware of that now thanks.

helIy posted...
so no, your point doesn't stand


Actually it does and I've already elaborated on that. Nothing left to discuss.
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SushiSquid
10/25/17 8:43:28 AM
#94:


Corey, please don't give up on therapy and certainly don't give up on life.

The pain will eventually go away, but the wound will leave a scar. My best friend died suddenly in his sleep four years ago. It still affects me. I can only imagine how losing your fiancee must hurt.

Probably best would be to see if there is a support group for loss nearby. Talking with others who have experienced loss may help. Keep going to counseling, but also try a support group.
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SusanGreenEyes
10/25/17 9:24:33 AM
#95:


Mead posted...
This is so sad, I'm sorry to hear about your loss.

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TheCyborgNinja
10/25/17 10:56:11 AM
#96:


Thats fucking brutal. I wouldnt wish this on many people... Jeez. Sorry to hear about your ordeal.
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ninjabay
10/29/17 6:07:00 PM
#97:


my man i'm with you

that is horrible and i can't even think about something like that.

it will take time but hopefully you will someday stop bleeding
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