Board 8 > Richard Spencer is talking at the University of Florida on Thursday

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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 6:48:05 PM
#302:


kevwaffles posted...
Wait, is he literally trying to say that Catholics don't take Communion? Or does he think Protestants drink actual blood?

Communion has NOTHING to do with actual Salvation.

And it's Catholics who belibe that the wine actually becomes blood.

Protestants do it as a symbol.
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MenuWars
10/20/17 6:53:19 PM
#303:


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kevwaffles
10/20/17 6:54:23 PM
#304:


Wow, this is happening.

Please give us some more religious factoids. This is a gold mine.
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Espeon
10/20/17 6:55:41 PM
#305:


Yeah, I'm catholic you bigoted idiot. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a Nazi sympathizer would mimic their "Catholics aren't real christians" rhetoric.
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 6:58:55 PM
#306:


Espeon posted...
Yeah, I'm catholic you bigoted idiot. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a Nazi sympathizer would mimic their "Catholics aren't real christians" rhetoric.


Saying both sides are worthless shit isn't "sympathizing" with anyone.

Fair enough. Tell me how you got saved. While you're at it, tell me the point of confession....
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banananor
10/20/17 7:03:06 PM
#307:


To be saved as a Catholic, you just have to gasp 'I'm sorry' in your dying breath and believe it, and believe in the Catholic god

I'm not joking, that's it
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 7:07:17 PM
#308:


banananor posted...
To be saved as a Catholic, you just have to gasp 'I'm sorry' in your dying breath and believe it, and believe in the Catholic god

I'm not joking, that's it


That's actually true. Yes.

The reason they aren't Christian is because of what happens if it isn't your dying breath.

You retainnsalvation by good works, you lose Salvation by sins and have to confess.
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Shaduln
10/20/17 7:13:35 PM
#309:


I have honestly never seen someone claim Catholics aren't Christian.
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 7:15:28 PM
#310:


Shaduln posted...
I have honestly never seen someone claim Catholics aren't Christian.


I've never been to another Christian Church that remotely claims them. Cause they aren't us.
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Lopen
10/20/17 7:16:13 PM
#311:


Most Catholics and Christians alike aren't Christian so it's just splitting hairs really.
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Shaduln
10/20/17 7:18:36 PM
#312:


The Apostles' Creed literally says "I believe in... the holy Catholic Church"
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WhoopsyDaisy
10/20/17 7:19:29 PM
#313:


I'm at a smash tournament at UF and one of the teams is called "so much for the tolerant left" lol
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Kenri
10/20/17 7:19:37 PM
#314:


Shaduln posted...
I have honestly never seen someone claim Catholics aren't Christian.

It's a pretty common claim. A big part of it is about wanting to disown Eastern Europeans, Italians, and the Irish.
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 7:21:33 PM
#315:


Lopen posted...
Most Catholics and Christians alike aren't Christian so it's just splitting hairs really.


This is of course true too. Doesn't matter for the actual tenants.
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Inviso
10/20/17 7:22:03 PM
#316:


I just find it baffling that Catholicism, the LARGEST denomination of Christianity and one of the two original denominations (alongside Eastern Orthodox) after Christianity began to split, from which pretty much all lesser denominations spawned...is considered NOT real Christianity.
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 7:24:55 PM
#317:


Shaduln posted...
The Apostles' Creed literally says "I believe in... the holy Catholic Church"


It actually says Holy catholic Church.

Catholic meaning Universal.

As in one United Church in Christ.
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 7:27:15 PM
#318:


Kenri posted...
Shaduln posted...
I have honestly never seen someone claim Catholics aren't Christian.

It's a pretty common claim. A big part of it is about wanting to disown Eastern Europeans, Italians, and the Irish.


I'm Irish Italian and Greek. (Originally baptized in a Greek Orthodox Church) I can assure you my stance on Catholicism doesn't originate from hating Irish people...
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Tom Bombadil
10/20/17 7:29:37 PM
#319:


I've seen both Catholics and Protestants who don't consider the other side Christians. I don't know enough about Catholicism to have an informed opinion about it, but I am under the impression that Catholicism is a lot more of justification through works as opposed to it being through faith. That's at least grounds to make the argument.

As for the line in the Apostles' Creed, it's a different meaning of the word "catholic." Sauce: http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/2008/september/what-do-protestant-churches-mean-when-they-recite-i.html
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StealThisSheen
10/20/17 7:33:07 PM
#320:


I'm still stuck on how hilarious it is that when people talk about the guy that got punched, the response was "The puncher should be prosecuted," but when the guy that shot at a crowd of people is brought up, it's just "Whoa that was the guy that was okay with me being gay"
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 7:36:23 PM
#321:


Inviso posted...
I just find it baffling that Catholicism, the LARGEST denomination of Christianity and one of the two original denominations (alongside Eastern Orthodox) after Christianity began to split, from which pretty much all lesser denominations spawned...is considered NOT real Christianity.


We split cause you aren't real Christians....

But anyway, you weren't the original church anyway. The church's scattered around Antioch Syria (where the original Biblical Texts were) among everywhere else back then were the original Churches. The places Paul created being the most famous ones.
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banananor
10/20/17 7:37:24 PM
#322:


I mean, I really don't like the Catholic Church because of its horrible abuse and subsequent cover ups.

However. You can certainly say that Protestants aren't Catholic, and Catholics aren't Protestant, but you can be sure as hell that they're both Christian.

And yeah, I took high school history. There were good reasons for Protestants to break off. But getting your jimmies rustled by the differences in 2017 is purely the domain of religious zealots
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OliviaTremor
10/20/17 7:37:39 PM
#323:


God damn MWC is on fire. Hella sick tight
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OliviaTremor
10/20/17 7:43:19 PM
#324:


SSJBGenkiDama posted...
banananor posted...
To be saved as a Catholic, you just have to gasp 'I'm sorry' in your dying breath and believe it, and believe in the Catholic god

I'm not joking, that's it


That's actually true. Yes.

The reason they aren't Christian is because of what happens if it isn't your dying breath.

You retainnsalvation by good works, you lose Salvation by sins and have to confess.


Good to know you won't attain salvation in the slightest by your own interpretation as you do no good works by any stretch of the imagination.
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 7:45:57 PM
#325:


Tom Bombadil posted...
I've seen both Catholics and Protestants who don't consider the other side Christians. I don't know enough about Catholicism to have an informed opinion about it, but I am under the impression that Catholicism is a lot more of justification through works as opposed to it being through faith. That's at least grounds to make the argument.

As for the line in the Apostles' Creed, it's a different meaning of the word "catholic." Sauce: http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/2008/september/what-do-protestant-churches-mean-when-they-recite-i.html


That is exactly it.

Justification through works vs Justification of the blood of the Lamb
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StealThisSheen
10/20/17 7:46:15 PM
#326:


Yeah, I'm pretty sure constantly wishing death on people isn't getting you to the top of the salvation list
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Inviso
10/20/17 7:48:14 PM
#327:


StealThisSheen posted...
Yeah, I'm pretty sure constantly wishing death on people isn't getting you to the top of the salvation list


This works vs. faith interpretation explains why, pedophile priest scumbags aside, the biggest assholes who pervert Christianity for their own self-serving agendas are non-Catholics.
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 7:52:29 PM
#328:


OliviaTremor posted...
SSJBGenkiDama posted...
banananor posted...
To be saved as a Catholic, you just have to gasp 'I'm sorry' in your dying breath and believe it, and believe in the Catholic god

I'm not joking, that's it


That's actually true. Yes.

The reason they aren't Christian is because of what happens if it isn't your dying breath.

You retainnsalvation by good works, you lose Salvation by sins and have to confess.


Good to know you won't attain salvation in the slightest by your own interpretation as you do no good works by any stretch of the imagination.


That's a Catholic thing...
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banananor
10/20/17 7:53:20 PM
#329:


Wow, is it real that supremacists shot into a crowd of counter protestors today?
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Inviso
10/20/17 7:53:34 PM
#330:


SSJBGenkiDama posted...
OliviaTremor posted...
SSJBGenkiDama posted...
banananor posted...
To be saved as a Catholic, you just have to gasp 'I'm sorry' in your dying breath and believe it, and believe in the Catholic god

I'm not joking, that's it


That's actually true. Yes.

The reason they aren't Christian is because of what happens if it isn't your dying breath.

You retainnsalvation by good works, you lose Salvation by sins and have to confess.


Good to know you won't attain salvation in the slightest by your own interpretation as you do no good works by any stretch of the imagination.


That's a Catholic thing...


You were Catholic for 15 years. You don't get to fake faith in God, abandon your "non-Christian" religion, and suddenly all your asshole behavior is okay.
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 7:56:43 PM
#331:


Inviso posted...
StealThisSheen posted...
Yeah, I'm pretty sure constantly wishing death on people isn't getting you to the top of the salvation list


This works vs. faith interpretation explains why, pedophile priest scumbags aside, the biggest assholes who pervert Christianity for their own self-serving agendas are non-Catholics.


Yeah. It's almost like there is no where in the Bible that speaks on good works
To get into Heaven (NT) and in fact most of the most famous Bible versus specifically slaughter Catholicism and how they think it works.
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Lopen
10/20/17 7:58:04 PM
#332:


I mean

If we're thinking this board matters for "salvation" or whatever you're probably going straight to hell too, Inviso
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Inviso
10/20/17 7:59:33 PM
#333:


I suppose I should thank you, MWC. Going off Matthew 5:11, I'm blessed because of you.
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Inviso
10/20/17 8:02:32 PM
#334:


Lopen posted...
I mean

If we're thinking this board matters for "salvation" or whatever you're probably going straight to hell too, Inviso


I'm also not claiming religious superiority and saying whatever offshoot of Catholicism MWC practices is "not Christianity".
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Lopen
10/20/17 8:05:25 PM
#335:


You can call your religion Humperdicklemantarianism if you really prefer
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 8:10:57 PM
#336:


Inviso posted...
Lopen posted...
I mean

If we're thinking this board matters for "salvation" or whatever you're probably going straight to hell too, Inviso


I'm also not claiming religious superiority and saying whatever offshoot of Catholicism MWC practices is "not Christianity".


I didn't claim superiority.

I just said Catholics weren't Christian.

I don't think I'm better than you.
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Inviso
10/20/17 8:13:25 PM
#337:


SSJBGenkiDama posted...
Inviso posted...
Lopen posted...
I mean

If we're thinking this board matters for "salvation" or whatever you're probably going straight to hell too, Inviso


I'm also not claiming religious superiority and saying whatever offshoot of Catholicism MWC practices is "not Christianity".


I didn't claim superiority.

I just said Catholics weren't Christian.

I don't think I'm better than you.


This whole argument started with you claiming that it was "Catholics, not CHRISTIANS" that had a high overall murder count, so fuck right off with that shit. You wouldn't make the distinction if you didn't think it "lessened" you to be lumped in with Catholics.
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redrocket_pub
10/20/17 8:24:07 PM
#339:


Hey MWC, are Orthodox Churches Christian?
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 8:24:28 PM
#340:


Inviso posted...
SSJBGenkiDama posted...
Inviso posted...
Lopen posted...
I mean

If we're thinking this board matters for "salvation" or whatever you're probably going straight to hell too, Inviso


I'm also not claiming religious superiority and saying whatever offshoot of Catholicism MWC practices is "not Christianity".


I didn't claim superiority.

I just said Catholics weren't Christian.

I don't think I'm better than you.


This whole argument started with you claiming that it was "Catholics, not CHRISTIANS" that had a high overall murder count, so fuck right off with that shit. You wouldn't make the distinction if you didn't think it "lessened" you to be lumped in with Catholics.


Lesser in regards to amount of murder maybe. But that's not a superiority thing.
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 8:24:55 PM
#341:


redrocket_pub posted...
Hey MWC, are Orthodox Churches Christian?


Greek?

No
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GuessMyUserName
10/20/17 8:25:45 PM
#342:


SSJBGenkiDama posted...
I just said Catholics weren't Christian.

wrong
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 8:31:04 PM
#343:


GuessMyUserName posted...
SSJBGenkiDama posted...
I just said Catholics weren't Christian.

wrong


Completely true.

We don't even worship the overall same Deitys.

They Deified Mary which is so anti Biblical it actually boggles the mind.
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GuessMyUserName
10/20/17 8:34:20 PM
#344:


doesn't change that you're factually wrong and thus know nothing about christianity
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SSJBGenkiDama
10/20/17 8:37:51 PM
#345:


GuessMyUserName posted...
doesn't change that you're factually wrong and thus know nothing about christianity


Yes. Believe it or not worshipping DIFFERENT GODS, in fact does make it not Christianity.

If it didn't Catholicism Jehova's Witnesses, Judaism, Christianity and "the religion of peace..." would all be the same religion instead of 5 seperate since they share the Abrahamic God.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/20/17 8:41:40 PM
#346:


it's kind of stupid that we don't see christianity and islam as different interpretations of the same religion, actually. current christianity has way more in common with current islam than it has in common with, say, 2nd century christianity.
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GuessMyUserName
10/20/17 8:41:40 PM
#347:


you're only arguing facts with falsehoods sorry =/
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redrocket_pub
10/20/17 8:45:28 PM
#348:


Actually, could you just give us a list of churches that are Christian?
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SSJBKK20Vegito
10/20/17 8:49:11 PM
#349:


GuessMyUserName posted...
you're only arguing facts with falsehoods sorry =/


So
At this point in time according to you.

Fuedal Japan and Christianity should be one in the same. Since it doesn't matter what God you actually worship in religion.

So...

Options are

1 Christian
2 Atheist
3 Agnostic
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Inviso
10/20/17 8:51:57 PM
#350:


But you just said five different religions all worship the same God...
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JeffreyRaze
10/20/17 8:52:23 PM
#351:


I object to agnostic being a third category. Gnostic vs agnostic is just whether you claim to know something or not. It's a modifier on the other two categories.
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Dancedreamer
10/20/17 9:02:40 PM
#352:


Everyone knows there's only one True Religion.

All the other Churches are filthy liars who are going to burn in hell.

(Luckily I don't believe in any of that stuff, so I don't have to worry about it)
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