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Mike_Stanton
10/24/17 10:49:41 PM
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How do other minimum wage workers make their money then hmm? Also, don't they get some money deducted from their checks based on how much they receive in tips? What's even the point?
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MabusIncarnate
10/24/17 10:52:31 PM
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They essentially get paid $1.80 an hour. If their tips don't match federal minimum wage, the restaurant they work for pays them minimum wage for the hours worked. This is how it's supposed to be.

Some places you don't report your tips at all, some combine them all and split them evenly. Some have to report all tips and have them taxed.

The average weekly paycheck from their employer is literally about $15 to $35 a week, again, depending on how they run things. They do not make minimum wage pay on top of tips, they only get minimum wage pay if the tips don't exceed that weekly wage.
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Mike_Stanton
10/24/17 10:55:19 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
They essentially get paid $1.80 an hour. If their tips don't match federal minimum wage, the restaurant they work for pays them minimum wage for the hours worked. This is how it's supposed to be.

Some places you don't report your tips at all, some combine them all and split them evenly. Some have to report all tips and have them taxed.

The average weekly paycheck from their employer is literally about $15 to $35 a week, again, depending on how they run things. They do not make minimum wage pay on top of tips, they only get minimum wage pay if the tips don't exceed that weekly wage.

So in other words, if you don't tip them then they get paid just as much as other minimum wage workers?
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Zikten
10/24/17 10:56:43 PM
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I don't care. it's not my fault and I shouldn't have to pay extra. tipping is anti american and used to be illegal. it needs to go back to being illegal
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LordRazziel
10/24/17 11:00:22 PM
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Mike_Stanton posted...
MabusIncarnate posted...
They essentially get paid $1.80 an hour. If their tips don't match federal minimum wage, the restaurant they work for pays them minimum wage for the hours worked. This is how it's supposed to be.

Some places you don't report your tips at all, some combine them all and split them evenly. Some have to report all tips and have them taxed.

The average weekly paycheck from their employer is literally about $15 to $35 a week, again, depending on how they run things. They do not make minimum wage pay on top of tips, they only get minimum wage pay if the tips don't exceed that weekly wage.

So in other words, if you don't tip them then they get paid just as much as other minimum wage workers?

Many times they don't
It's a big problem in the restaurant industry.
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prince_leo
10/24/17 11:00:30 PM
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Mike_Stanton posted...
So in other words, if you don't tip them then they get paid just as much as other minimum wage workers?

in theory, yes. in reality, shitty owners get around it by using technicalities and will end up firing you if you don't make enough in tips
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Vermander
10/24/17 11:01:25 PM
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Don't let this concepts fool you though, servers are making more than anyone else in the restaurant barring management. Bartenders make more than me right now.
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MabusIncarnate
10/24/17 11:02:08 PM
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Mike_Stanton posted...
MabusIncarnate posted...
They essentially get paid $1.80 an hour. If their tips don't match federal minimum wage, the restaurant they work for pays them minimum wage for the hours worked. This is how it's supposed to be.

Some places you don't report your tips at all, some combine them all and split them evenly. Some have to report all tips and have them taxed.

The average weekly paycheck from their employer is literally about $15 to $35 a week, again, depending on how they run things. They do not make minimum wage pay on top of tips, they only get minimum wage pay if the tips don't exceed that weekly wage.

So in other words, if you don't tip them then they get paid just as much as other minimum wage workers?

If it's a collective effort from other non-tipping customers, yes. This goes for corporate chains only. Family owned businesses don't have to agree to these standards. If you have a server that works 40 hours and gets fucked that week and only makes $87 in tips, it's too bad for them, that's what they get on top of their tiny pay check.
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MabusIncarnate
10/24/17 11:03:04 PM
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LordRazziel posted...
Mike_Stanton posted...
MabusIncarnate posted...
They essentially get paid $1.80 an hour. If their tips don't match federal minimum wage, the restaurant they work for pays them minimum wage for the hours worked. This is how it's supposed to be.

Some places you don't report your tips at all, some combine them all and split them evenly. Some have to report all tips and have them taxed.

The average weekly paycheck from their employer is literally about $15 to $35 a week, again, depending on how they run things. They do not make minimum wage pay on top of tips, they only get minimum wage pay if the tips don't exceed that weekly wage.

So in other words, if you don't tip them then they get paid just as much as other minimum wage workers?

Many times they don't
It's a big problem in the restaurant industry.

prince_leo posted...
Mike_Stanton posted...
So in other words, if you don't tip them then they get paid just as much as other minimum wage workers?

in theory, yes. in reality, shitty owners get around it by using technicalities and will end up firing you if you don't make enough in tips

This also, exactly. A lot of owners and managers find work-arounds to fuck their servers so they don't have to pay out and they don't make enough money, forcing them to quit or being put in a position to be fired.
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MacDaMurderer
10/25/17 11:42:41 AM
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Bellhops at high end hotels get ridiculous tips too.
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Mike_Stanton
10/25/17 6:31:23 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
Mike_Stanton posted...
MabusIncarnate posted...
They essentially get paid $1.80 an hour. If their tips don't match federal minimum wage, the restaurant they work for pays them minimum wage for the hours worked. This is how it's supposed to be.

Some places you don't report your tips at all, some combine them all and split them evenly. Some have to report all tips and have them taxed.

The average weekly paycheck from their employer is literally about $15 to $35 a week, again, depending on how they run things. They do not make minimum wage pay on top of tips, they only get minimum wage pay if the tips don't exceed that weekly wage.

So in other words, if you don't tip them then they get paid just as much as other minimum wage workers?

If it's a collective effort from other non-tipping customers, yes. This goes for corporate chains only. Family owned businesses don't have to agree to these standards. If you have a server that works 40 hours and gets fucked that week and only makes $87 in tips, it's too bad for them, that's what they get on top of their tiny pay check.

But if nobody tipped then it's not like they would fire everybody. Same goes for if none of the waiters get any tips. Do you really think the managers are going to screw everyone that hard? They have to create incentives for work, so if the typical standard for tipping were to change then restaurant owners would have to keep up in order to make sure people will want to work for them. This is the same reason why there shouldn't be a minimum wage at all.
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AzNDarkSamurai
10/25/17 6:36:00 PM
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No TC

it's really that cuthroat in the restaurant business

thats why waiters refuse to serve non tippers in some establishments
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Mike_Stanton
10/26/17 7:02:35 AM
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...
No TC

it's really that cuthroat in the restaurant business

thats why waiters refuse to serve non tippers in some establishments

So do you believe that they would fire everybody if nobody received any tips?
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